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[Anonymous No.17046860]

THIS TIME IT WILL BE DIFFERENT!

[Anonymous No.17046887]

>>17046860
this time will be unironically different

[Anonymous No.17046909]

>>17046860
Pil basado y rojo

[Anonymous No.17046970]

>>17046887
ever noticed they have entire cable channels devoted to financial markets?

world market bub. imagine using the same marker for last bull run's peak as the one for this one's, which will be 20-50x the size.

[Anonymous No.17047002]

>>17046970
nah it's already priced in last year

[Anonymous No.17047009]

i dont think it will moon that much

[Anonymous No.17047011]

>>17046887
I don't know what to believe anymore...

[Anonymous No.17047024]

>>17046860
nope, $20k was the top- never before did we see such a normie influx. When ETH surpassed $1k I was at the gym and overheard the most knuckle dragging pair of morons in the changing rooms speak about how one of them bought 2 ETH , that alone convinced me to sell everything as soon as I got home

it is unironically over for crypto, normies have been burned and institutions sure as hell arent touching this shitshow

[Anonymous No.17047031]

>>17046970
>20-50 times the size
Why do you think this, nothing has changed in adoption or tech since 2017, there is no reason to think this run will be any different than the last, or the one before that

[Anonymous No.17047037]

>>17047024
bretty true. i heard the local jock radio host talking about buying litecoin around that time kek

[Anonymous No.17047050]

>>17047024
>it is unironically over for crypto, normies have been burned and institutions sure as hell arent touching this shitshow

i heard this in 2014 kek

[Anonymous No.17047070]

>>17047024
>>17047037
Normies have an incredibly short attention span. They will come back when we approach ATH.

[Anonymous No.17047074]

>>17047070
this is also true. they love wasting money on the next trendy thing

[Anonymous No.17047086]

>>17046860
please add the 5.th and 6th halvening too

[Anonymous No.17047108]

bearmarket rally
but the dip is not that far
5k

[Anonymous No.17047110]

>>17047024
>nope, $20k was the top- never before did we see such a normie influx
imagine people still unironically thinking this
the vast majority of normies have never owned a piece of crypto in their lives
hell I'm in finance and work at the headquarters of a major north American bank and I was the only person in my entire department with any crypto. We had a meeting about it and people hardly knew what it was
nobody actually owns this shit

[Anonymous No.17047121]

>>17046860
it's gonna cost a shit ton more for whales to pump this time
I don't understand why they would even take the risk to do it when they can make the same profit or more pumping and dumping between 10 and 6k

[Anonymous No.17047136]

>>17047050
>>17047070
>>17047110
going to be a yikes from me

[Anonymous No.17047160]

>>17047002
what about halvening after that?

what about halvening after that?

what about halvening after that?

repeat until you say no and realise you should buy btc

[Anonymous No.17047165]

>>17047110
I easily know +20 absolutes normies who bough near the top in 2017, none of them knew what BTC or eth was but they were shovelling +5k at it days after they saw it on TV
every shitcoin pumped to absolutely ridiculous numbers, 2017 was unironically the golden bull run

[Anonymous No.17047187]

>>17046860
it wont go up in the time before the halvening you mongoloid. we're going back to 6k at least

[Anonymous No.17047190]

>>17047160
people on this board don't even realize 90% of bitcoins have already been mined
forget about halving you are late adopter

[Anonymous No.17047192]

>>17047165
The wallet numbers still prove that these people were in an incredibly small minority

[Anonymous No.17047197]

>>17047192
number of wallets don't matter as 99% of people store their crypto on exchanges

[Anonymous No.17047210]

>>17047192
lol what
both coinbase and binance had to stop new registry for a week because of the new users

[Anonymous No.17047224]

>>17047121
absolutely this. from a game theory perspective, it makes zero sense that btc goes to 100k+ this era. 2017 bagholders are still around and shilling the halving hard thinking theyll make it rich in a year by "hodl"ing, while MMs can make enormous profits at these levels, not needing insane amounts of liquidity like 100k btc would

the shake out just begun

[Anonymous No.17047226]

>>17047197
exactly

[Anonymous No.17047236]

>>17047197
Yeah and coinbase only has about 30 million users

[Anonymous No.17047264]

>>17047236
beside for shit like monero or USDT crypto has nothing to offer in therms of currency and it cannot be used as a store of value with such volatility
there is zero reason for mass adoption, 30 millions is an insane number for a completely useless product

[Anonymous No.17047267]

>>17047136
ok bro

[Anonymous No.17047271]

>>17047236
coinbase isn't the only exchange
there are hundreds of them all over the world

[Anonymous No.17047341]

>>17047236
thats one exchange which serves primarily westerners.
what about bitstamp? kraken? gemini? coinfloor? binance? Bittrex? Itbit?

and thats the west, what about Bithumb,UpBit,Huobi, OKex, I could go on

the golden bull run has already happened, the future is simply market makers squeezing 2017 bagholders who have since acquired more money to invest

[Anonymous No.17047346]

>>17047264
Monero gang represent

[Anonymous No.17047382]

>>17046909
Basado y rojopastillado.

>>17046860
It's going to 300k by the end of 2021. Lock into a good alt now.

[Anonymous No.17047392]

I've convinced 3 zoomers to buy chainlink who never bought crypto in past month. People saying there isn't any more normie blood is full of shit

[Anonymous No.17047403]

>>17047392
There's a sucker born every minute

[Anonymous No.17047419]

>>17047403
Exactly, which is why market cycles are a thing

[Anonymous No.17047451]

>>17047224
A hwuehwue

[Anonymous No.17047462]

>>17047224
Holy shit...

[Anonymous No.17047483]

>>17047451
> still using log chart with 100 bln marketcap
stop being a deluded bull

[Anonymous No.17047591]

>>17047224
cope

[Anonymous No.17047631]

>>17047224
UH OH

[Anonymous No.17047663]

Normies are all over this. Pajeets, terrible English speaking browns. No one knows wtf they are doing. It's going to be a bloodbath. Dotcom bubble hasn't even happened yet. Not that everything is trying to prove utility they will realize nothing works or is a Rube Goldberg rig. Ethereum enterprise alliance is horse shit. It's all garbage. BTC is garbage. You guys have no idea what's coming

[Anonymous No.17048005]

>>17047451
severe cope

[Anonymous No.17048078]

>>17047224
Delete

[Anonymous No.17048136]

>>17047031
At a long enough timeframe BitCoin replaces money. This isn't just internet / websites anymore. Neither is it mostly US based anymore.

If we don't see a BSV price at some point worth (×21million coins of course) that is worth more than all of the wealth on planet earth (or close at least) I'll be mildly surprized. Fomo and absolute mania never die and the average iq is still only 100.

[Anonymous No.17048161]

>>17046860
what a retarded chart lol

[Anonymous No.17048167]

>>17048136
you forktards are the dumbest cunts on this planet.

[Anonymous No.17048193]

>>17047031
>what is Lightning Network
>what is CashApp
>what is Schnorr

>>17047190
Pajeet my benchode.

[Anonymous No.17048200]

>>17046860
Those stupid logarithmic charts....

[Anonymous No.17048211]

Crapto investor here. Where can I invest $10,000 to double it

[Anonymous No.17048227]

>>17048211
XRP, USDT, TRON

Thanks me later

[Anonymous No.17048257]

>>17048227
Jew, scam and chink. Are you trolling?

[Anonymous No.17048295]

>>17048257
>Are you trolling?
No :^)

[Anonymous No.17048304]

>>17048295
Nice :v

[Anonymous No.17048316]

>>17047382
>Lock into a good alt now.
No worries. I'm a Harmony Chad.

[Anonymous No.17048328]

ive been calling $200k next peak at EOY 2021 for 18 months now

[Anonymous No.17048344]

>>17048200
>Using log charts so it does look volatile.

State of bull cope.

[Anonymous No.17048348]

>>17048200
Fuck bulls, but fuck retards who study multiplicative processes on non-log charts even more. Fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.17048365]

>>17046860
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy2MqQ_uNIY

[Anonymous No.17048376]

>>17046860
The first halvening was werre crypto wasn't traded as seriously as it is today. If you look at the early part of the Bitcoin chart, it doesn't look like a normal chart, it looks like a shitcoin chart that is traded with low volume.

I do think that Bitcoin will increase a lot in value up until the halvening, after that i am not entirely sure if it will continue or go back to sleep/perma bear market.

[Anonymous No.17048419]

>>17046860
priced in

[Anonymous No.17048476]

>>17046860
you missed your chance, stop fucking coping like a little laggard piece of normie shit

[Anonymous No.17048483]

>>17047024
You do realize Bitcoin is tiny in comparison to other global markets? You can't think of Bitcoin as a single company that you own stock in. It is its own entire market.

It hardly takes any money to move the price of Bitcoin. The small number of normies that did fomo in 2017 have been shaken out. Hardly 1% of the world's population even owns crypto. All of India didn't even have a proper fiat onramp in 2017, same with many other countries. There are plenty of places where the money can come from. QE, negative yielding bonds, global instability, etc. The list goes on.

I have been here since 2016. I knew I was early then, but this is still pretty fucking early in the grand scheme of things. I don't know if we'll see things go 1000x left and right again, but everything is just a market cycle. There will be another bubble and another one after that.

[Anonymous No.17048512]

>>17048483
As always, based normies will FOMO in poster tells the truth.

[Anonymous No.17048532]

The normies already KNOW about your pedo pesos. After the 20k bubble nobody cares anymore. Normies are fully aware of Bitcoin and collectively determined it to be useless.

Only thing is good for is unconfiscateability, but since that is not even a word you can conclude world doesn't give a fuck about it either.

[Anonymous No.17048535]

>>17047024
>never before did we see such a normie influx
Normies talked about crypto a lot, but very very very few of them actually bought any.

[Anonymous No.17048589]

>>17047226
Now tell me what percent 25 million is of 1 billion, mathlet (popn of USA+Europe)

[Anonymous No.17048610]

>>17048589
Also, a user on an exchange doesn't necessarily own any crypto and in fact most are probably bots with 0 interaction so you're still looking at much less than 1% of the developed world owning any crypto much less any significant amount of crypto

[Anonymous No.17048644]

So you guys have officially moved from "crypto will revolutionise the world" to "some normie will buy my bags eventually"?

[Anonymous No.17048674]

>>17047341
You're missing the point fuckface.
The amount of people that own or have ever had crypto at some point in time is about 2% of the entire world population if we're being generous.
Two fucking percent.

[Anonymous No.17048680]

I have a business friend who gives loans and financial advice but he knows little about crypto. A few days ago, he came to me saying his clients have been asking him about bitcoin.

It's happening again.

[Anonymous No.17048745]

>>17048680
>It's happening again
absolute nomans are fomoing the top? ye sounds about right

[Anonymous No.17048818]

>>17048680
No lie, you turn on fox news or watch fox news videos on YouTube, you'll get ads and commercials about diversifying your portfolio into crypto.

2020/2021 is gonna be the golden bull run because the dying gasp of boomer money to is gonna go for broke in crypto to expound their retirements.

GRANDMAS 401K IS GONNA PUMP BTC TO THE ANDROMADA

[Anonymous No.17048889]

>>17048674
see
>>17047264

[Anonymous No.17048968]

>>17047190
you become a late adopter at 40% adoption. we are sub 1%. not even early adopters yet.

[Anonymous No.17049035]

>>17047024
yup, that happened
you don't even go to the gym

[Anonymous No.17049136]

>>17046860
the blue line is all that matters.

[Anonymous No.17049180]

>>17048644
>crypto will revolutionise the world
>some normie will buy my bags
Both of these things can happen. After all, that's what's going on in the stock market all the time: normies buying some of some early adopter's bags after they moon.

[Anonymous No.17049199]

I hope this time is different. I made $7.6MM selling near the top ($15k). I traveled the world and did a ton of drugs, fucked some prostitutes and a bunch of whores (non-professional women who wouldn't call themselves prostitutes but were clearly just fucking me bc I had money and took them cool places).

Honestly I was so wasted most of the time I don't even remember a lot of it. The days I do remember stand out as being ones that were particularly depressing and lonely.

I took my last $200k and split it into BTC and an ERC token which this board knows well but I won't bother naming it. I got in late bc I was spending 2018 as a degenerate, so I have around 50,000 tokens. Luckily BTC had shit itself so I have 25 of them.

I would love another chance at wealth and to do it differently this time. I have since found hobbies I want to spend my time on but have gone back to wage cucking and living with my parents and it is admittedly worse than being a rich piece of garbage though not by much. I want to live a peaceful life spending time on my hobbies and finding a woman who cares about things not financially related.

[Anonymous No.17049240]

>>17049199
Jesus christ how the fuck do you blow $7m in just a few years

[Anonymous No.17049515]

>>17047024
Wrong most of them didn't even buy or fomo. But they will this time and you want to know why ? Beacause we got coinbase and a lot of other "legally compliant" exchanges all over the world now. Normies want stability, ease of use and legality. The exchanges now provide all of that with convenient interfaces and easy to use websites. With that sort of infrastructure, the halvening and the already bullish environment you can be certain that 2020 will be one hell of a year for crypto if not the biggest yet.

[Anonymous No.17049636]

>>17047136
>One celebrity in all of Hollywood shills crypto one time on her Twitter.
>hurr durr the normies know.
Kys

[Anonymous No.17049698]

>>17049240
Larp

[Anonymous No.17049795]

>>17047024
I literally do not believe you are dumb enough to think this is true.

[Anonymous No.17049807]

Okay you convinced me guys. What should I buy besides bitcoin?

[Anonymous No.17049846]

>>17048136
shoo shoo, curry.

[Anonymous No.17049961]

>>17048968
imagine having this kind of optimism

[Anonymous No.17050079]

>>17049240
kys naive faggot

[Anonymous No.17050149]

>>17049807
vidt fren

[Anonymous No.17050178]

>>17047024
U underestimate human greed

[CHINA CHAD No.17050193]

>>17047224
>MUH I DRAW MEANINGLESS LINES

[Anonymous No.17050211]

>>17046860
People have had this debate about halvening for literally a decade and each time newfags who arrived after the post halvening bullrun argued that this time is going to be different and for sure bitcoin is going to zero now.

[Anonymous No.17050251]

>>17047050

lolno. early 2014 was a fucking joke compared to dec+jan 2017.

You're probably the type of person that did nothing but jack off to their portfolio during these times. Anyone who bothered to look at the world around them would have seen swarms of normlings on every social media platform discussing their newly acquired bags that they bought ATH, and the legions of "crypto experts and entrepreneurs" that cropped up overnight. When my jeet taxi driver was telling me about his $3 XRP bags, I knew this was reaching dotcom levels of stupidity. It was over.


Crypto was essentially nonexistent outside 4chan and reddit in 2014. It went almost completely unnoticed to the average idiot.

[Anonymous No.17050352]

>>17049636
>One celebrity

Another pea brained coomer that wasn't watching in 2017. Celebrities left and right were shilling the shit out everything.

Djkhaled and floyd mayweather actually had to pay big fines for promoting trashy ICO's

[Anonymous No.17050357]

>>17047011
Satan believes in you.

[Anonymous No.17050365]

>>17050251
It's not over yet. We still live in a time where boomers are alive. World grows more digital every day. Young people are pessimistic about the market, banking system, everything in the current structure (since only boomers are profiting)

Time and trend are both on crypto's side. Don't fret.

[Anonymous No.17050949]

>>17050079
Fuck off retard

[Anonymous No.17050969]

>>17047210
I'm pretty sure binance had like 10 million users at that point and it's propably the biggest exchange around. That's litetally a small minority of people globally.

[Anonymous No.17051040]

>>17049515
>Normies want stability, ease of use and legality
and they had all of that in 2017- via Coinbase and Bitstamp, what the fuck are you talking about?

>>17049636
>one celebrity
were you asleep late 2017? crypto was literally top trending on snapchat for weeks during december 2017. Normies tweeting about TRX, XRP, XVG etc. delusion at its finest

>>17049795
the only dumb one is the person who thinks normies will return in such a short space of time after being financially ruined by crypto

[Anonymous No.17051051]

>>17047031

Huh? Adoption has gone way up. BAKKT, futures market, increasing regulatory guidance from the feds, institutions are piling in. Just imagine what happens when governments wake up and start buying it themselves.

[Anonymous No.17051065]

>>17047031
people said the same thing before 2017 in regards to 2014

[Anonymous No.17051135]

>>17051065
This.

t. 2013 oldfag

[Anonymous No.17051260]

>>17046887
Faaaaak

[Anonymous No.17051273]

>>17048818
unironic peak in 2021 will be $350k
lads

[Anonymous No.17051294]

>>17046887
its too late, at this price normal people think its too risky so they dont buy in.

[Anonymous No.17051319]

lets b real, 95% of the volume is fake
Next 4% are Chinx dumping on burgers
1% moon boys hodling
Over a 150 million USD worth of BTC gets mined EVERY SINGLE DAY, no way organic buying is supporting that
Only way Bitcoin survives is one of these shitcones produces something of value that has real life benefits
Maybe then a blockchain economy starts and BTC becomes digital gold similar to real good when we had the gold standard

[Anonymous No.17051349]

also this

[Anonymous No.17051359]

>>17047224
Thanks Greg

[Anonymous No.17051449]

>>17049199

>make 7 million
>needs another chance at wealth

You are disgusting. You need to do some serious self-reflection.

[Anonymous No.17051461]

>>17046860
will anyone actually pay over $100,000 for one bitcoin?

[Anonymous No.17051479]

>>17051051
nah, you know what will be big? if pension funds can add a few % of btc etf to their portfolio. that will be crazy.

[Anonymous No.17051493]

>>17051294
Once it passes previous ath by a decent amount they won't consider it risky.

[Anonymous No.17051496]

>>17051461

Yeah, shortly before it drops back to 20-30k. There's a top to every bubble. Be ready to profit and offload bags on the boomers.

[Anonymous No.17051497]

>>17051449
How does someone make that much and they lose it all? Smart enough buy Bitcoin, but dumb enough not to get good at money and time management.

You don't deserve another go around for that.

[Anonymous No.17051501]

>>17051461
idk guy, does everyone have $100,000 to spend on a whim?

[Anonymous No.17051510]

>>17051479

based

[Anonymous No.17051520]

>>17051461
Yes

[Anonymous No.17051607]

>>17051461
You do know that Bitcoin breaks down into smaller decimals right? 0.00000000 to be exact. Get used to it or not.

[Anonymous No.17051608]

>>17047024
There’s only 21 million. If all not Murs owned a bitcoin price Per BTC would be 1 million+

[Anonymous No.17051636]

>>17051608
>Murs
there is not enough bitcoin for every $ millionaire to own one... let that sink in!

[Anonymous No.17051654]

>>17051461
Well, people pay over $ 50k for one kilogram of gold, and if pretty much has an infinite supply (asteroid mining in a few decades), so $ 100k for one Bitcoin is not that absurd

[Anonymous No.17051664]

>>17051359
has greg an hero'd himself yet?

[Anonymous No.17051716]

>>17051664
>>17051636
It's true:

"There are a total of 46.8 million millionaires worldwide, according to the report, and they collectively own approximately $158.3 trillion."

>>17051664
He lives in denial now. Pic related.

I'd definitely be dead if I was him.

[Anonymous No.17051718]

>>17051654
gold has actual real world use apart from speculation tho

bitcoin is a currency. not equity, not a commodity

[Anonymous No.17051724]

>>17046887
FUCK

[Anonymous No.17051729]

>>17051636
It's true:

"There are a total of 46.8 million millionaires worldwide, according to the report, and they collectively own approximately $158.3 trillion."

>>17051664
He lives in denial now. Pic related.

I'd definitely be dead if I were him.

[Anonymous No.17051733]

>>17047024
true, but at the same time a bunch of normies and boomers in the first world countries aren't a representation of the entire world, for every bullrun consisted of normie randos and boomers and it won't be the last

[Anonymous No.17051766]

>>17051729
HAHAHAHHH
>bought at 30 cents and sold at 15k to pay off all my debts
LMFAO SURRRREE BUDdDdy

[Anonymous No.17051891]

hugely bullish thread

[DetectiveAnon !!xywCWEmZbu8 No.17051937]

>>17047024
>miners getting half the amount of bitcoins to sell per time spent mining with the same hardware
>electricity bill still the same
>somehow they need to make make as much money selling 12.5 BTC per block as when they sold 25 BTC per block
GEE, I WONDER WHAT HAPPENS NEXT

[Anonymous No.17052505]

>>17047224
You are a clown , the existing supply in circulation is going to be even less than 2016-2017

https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-dormant_1y-bitcoin-addresses.html

DATA KILLS MEMELINES

[Anonymous No.17052539]

>>17051937
Block reward collapses in sats and goes 60x up on fiat as miners refuse to sell at low prices.

https://bitcoinvisuals.com/chain-block-reward

add to that the ammount of dormant btcs

https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-dormant_1y-bitcoin-addresses.html

and we are going to the fucking moon, i mean there is 5.08M btc that did not moved since 2016 and 13.15M in total that have not moved since 2019

Even assuming that 4m are out of circulation forever if we reach gold marketcap we will be above 450k

That's assuming just 4m are out of circulation and the marketcap follows the previous halvings.

Assuming a halving half as powerful we are above 300k.

Let's make it 100% weaker and only 4m out of circulation and we are about 180k with a base price of 55k(miners won't sell bellow that even in 2022-2023.

This shit is going to the fucking moon.

[Anonymous No.17052750]

>>17047224
this... actually seems reasonable.