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When did wagies get so fucking entitled and why?
What causes this?
Always the communists that complain about more than generous tips but not muhhhh 20% REEEEEEEEE some roastie on twitch (who’s streaming on her own free will nor employed by twitch) crying about not getting donations for an hour yesterday ‘working for free meme’
>>16944563shes right though; ive rather have someone just stiff me than stiff me AND leave a stupid compliment
>>16944561The better question is why should the consumer be guilted into subsidizing the wages of low level employees to the benefit of large corporations?
If I spent 90k at a fucking bar then I sure as fuck would feel like I've given them enough of my money.
Social media will make killing retards really easy when rwds start rolling.>check his phone>unlock it or die>Ok, let's have a look at your Reddit posting history and Twitter>yep, you're a fucking faggot and you're going right into the woodchipperIt's gunna be great
>>16944604Based and day of the rope pilled
>>16944563Even if they tipped 25%, it’s only a $20 difference. This chick will overdose on opioids by age 30, guaranteed.
>>16944561Because they are getting the cucked end of the stick, Not saying it's good but it's funny to watch business owners manipulate their wagie employees. It won't last for long because soon everyone will be out of a job, They won't even be able to even make payments on their debts it will be so bad.>>16944584That compliment was most definitely an insult or snarky passive aggressiveness. Eating out is a luxury though, Used to work at a restaurant as a busser when I was in HS and the waiters would spit in people's food that left no tip.
>>16944584No you wouldn't bitch stop lying.
>>16944561I deliver food on my bike with a bag in my back. I don't get tipped much and when I do its £1, £2. People that do the same job as me in America get like $20-$40 per day in tips.From my perspective this is kinda crazy but from an Americans perspective I can see why it'd be normal
I don't tip
>>16944615Did the people who didn't tip come back again or what?
based j-hova
>>16944623Based
>>16944561I seriously can't believe how retarded you Americans are about tips. Just bring me my fucking food, I'm not some adjudicator of how much money you should receive for walking back and forth. Do your fucking job, do other people get tipped?
>>16944635Based
>>16944561The smug entitlement on american wagies is astonishing. Yes, some people can burn through 90k like it's nothing but you know why? Most likely because they've worked hard for it and didn't complain on Twitter about how life is unfair. America needs to be put behind a wall, both physically and digitally.
>>16944630Yea and lots of customers who came back ate even more spit. We had customers that left 0 every time and most of the time they had spit in their dishes. Not a snitch so I didn't say anything though I didn't condone it I just turned the other way, I don't care for being a hero or good guy. It was at a texmex restaurant. I advocate not tipping if you are never going to go to the restaurant again.
>>16944603Agreed. Did that bitch really think she gave them 11g's worth of service?
I still don't understand why it's based on percentage and not performance.I've had waitresses at $10 buffets do a better job than ones at the posh nosh where the steaks start at 3 figures.
>>16944561fuck me, waiters in these rich people joints probably rakes in hundreds of k a year in tips
At some price point tipping should not be calculated in %.Serving a $30,000 wine is not a $6000 deserving service. It's just pouring fucking wine in a glass.
>>16944615>That compliment was an insultAre you fucking kidding me wagie? That's $15 of free money and you're bitching.
>>16944614No? It's a $30 difference
>>1694469115$ on a 200 bill is an insult in the eyes of a waiter, Usually you have to realize that these big bills are usually families with giant parties that make huge messes. 30-40$ for the amount of work would be appropriate since it's not free.
Worst people who complain about tips are the KBBQ staff. Fucking mongrels think they deserve 20% on everyone's individual check. Oh you brought meat to a table and took order for an hr. That's so fucking deserving of the extra $40 your going to make on your hr
>>16944682this is why niggers are stupid. They literally think 20% applies to ANY bill.
>>16944707And here it is... These subhumans really think they DESERVE $40 on top of their hourly for service that can be done by a well trained chimp
At what point did tipping stopped being something you did out of good faith and will and become something obligatory?
>>16944707Clean it up wagie
my gf is a waiter, she can make 150 in just tips in a day. she feels offended when people leave zero in tips
>>16944621Yeah in Mumbai I get paid in rotten fruit.
>>16944694If $10 is a significant amount of money to you, and you are over the age of 18, then you need to take a step back and reevaluate your life.
>>16944728>>16944717It is trivial, was never a waiter but shame they get cucked, such is life I guess.
I don't pay tips. It is not my responsibility to pay more than the price. If they give a price then that is what I pay.
>>16944621We keep forgetting that in the US they have some weird slave labor laws that allow people not to pay waiters a proper wage. They need tips to survive which is fucking retarded and third-world tier policy.
>>16944561Jaycene is a ftm tranny.
>>16944787>third-world tier policythen why is America number one in the world you stupid faggot?USA USA USA
>>16944682lol even this is Lenin's faultretarded hoholes, he literally gave them half of their country
>>16944604What if you don't have either?
>>16944561America is the most cucked nation in the western world, they don't know it & will argue with this post.
>>16944623Extremelly based and moneypilledI don't either, no matter how great the service was or how hot were the waitresses, i never leave a single cent.Actually when i can i steal tips left on other tables on my way out.Fuck them, i'm not their boss, i didn't sign any contract. If they want a raise they better negociate with their kike's patron. I come to a restaurant for eating, not for financing a charity for brainlet wagies.
>>16944602/thread
Tipping is pretty much an American thing only and it fucking baffles me. When I say that I mean sure people tip elsewhere buts it's a couple of extra bucks - not a percentage, it's not owed and it's a small expression to say thank you. What the fuck are you guys doing? They're doing their job and frankly in the scheme of things it's really not a hard one. Easiest time of my life
>>16944563Tell your boss to pay you more you dumb bitch
>>16944965It's literally just american restaurants shifting the blame of shitty pay from themselves to customers. There is no other reason.
>>16944818In obesity, maybe.In economics, it's China.
>>16944561I don't get what is tipping and why it is even on a cashier check. How often do you americans tip a worker at walmart/ ikea/ kroger/ wallgreens/ shell/ mcdonalds?Very strange culture.
>>16944720When the kikes gave women rights
>>16944707>NOOOOOOOOOO ITS SO HARD TO CLEAN TABLE NUMERINO 13 AND ONE KID EVEN BROKE A GLASSERINO WHO WAS HALF FULL OF TROPICO NOOOO I DERSERVE 40 DOLLARINOS FOR THIS HARD WORKERINOOO
I always give a tip. I write it clearly on the line below my total: “Get a real job.”
>>16944561As a Dutchfag I literally don't get the expected tip culture in America. Just make shit 20% more expensive and pay people more so you don't have to go through this shit every time you get something to eat. I only tip if the service was really good, as the waiters make a living wage with just their salary here.
>>16944563>service/effort is the same>i should get paid moremeanwhile>lol why should i stop eating avocado toast when all my favourite insta celebs do itfunny how normies pretend not to understand %s until it's their paycheck being stiffed
>>16944561It's a spic, what do you expect? They're dumb and greedy pieces of shit
okay because when you started waiting tables part time you really thought you’d have enough money left over to pay for tuition GO FUCKING KILL YOURSELF
>>16944623so fuckin based!!
I only tip to round numbers so if it's 19.43 I give a 20Or when it's 53.23 I give 54
>>16945059>tuition>implying this whore went to school and this isnt to pay her crack addiction
>>16944965>American thing onlyAmerican tier post
>>16945078What's that funny part. These people complain that people don't give them more in tips, just so they can turn around and spend it on bullshit. Like anybody believes that 10% difference is going towards your tuition, my ass.
>>16945042> Today, in 2018, the minimum wage for those working positions defined by the law, such as those working entry-level roles in restaurants and bars, is still $2.13/hr. Meaning, for those working full time in these positions, their total weekly salary is only $85.20. The rest of their income is solely from tips. HAHAHAHA wtf I never realised americans were so cucked. Wtf. Who takes a job that only pays 85 bucks a week.
>be american>be born>leave doctor 20% of your dick as a tip
>>16945103False. Your weekly wage must meet or exceed minimum wage otherwise you get minimum wage. If your average pay is 12/hr with tips that's what you get. If your hourly is 6/hr with tips they bump you to minimum wage. (For example if it's 9/hr) Servers take issue because they don't think the work = the pay but dems the breaks. The potential to make a lot of money is possible.
tipping is the biggest scam alive, i work in australia in hospitality in one of the few corporate resturant settings where tipping is actually allowed and i know so many girls who will get tipped simply because they are hot and female compared to guys>hurr maybe you are just not as good at your job as they areno nigger because how good or skilled i am doesnt matter if the girl is okish and has nice tits they will always get tipped more than a guy, i just feel bad that an entire country revolves around this lie of merit based reward based economy it is totally fucking false. all that matters is your geneticts
>>16945162Lmao
>>16944659Who knows, maybe she fucked them all and they were allowed to carve her up while doing so. Jay-Z is into all that satanism shit.Other than that I can't see why. Bottles were moved from A to B. She clearly isn't qualified to open those, it was probably done by the in-house sommelier.
>>16944707These niggers often make more than actually skilled laborers. On top of that, they don't share with the cooks who do the ACTUAL work.
>>16944682I go to a bar and order 10 drinks for everyone, the bartender still only gets $1
>>16944945>Actually when i can i steal tips left on other tables on my way out.Niggertier
>>16944561Everyone who doesnt tip is either Jewish or Indian
>>16944584They weren't stiffed. It's a shit tip but suck it up. There are plenty of people who tip 30%+ to compensate for bad tippers
>>16945740There's billions of indians and most jews are well off so maybe there's something there.
>>16945183Unless you work on reserve land.Casino dealers got paid 2$ an hour.In "the Golden State." Totally legal.Granted they would brag about 80-200$ tips they usually got.
>>16944707Shut the fuck up you waiter monkey.
>>16944561Getting paid over 1k in tips is obscene. I don’t care if I just spent 50k on a bottle of Chateau Petrus, by what logic do you suddenly deserve 10k for opening a wine bottle with a particular label on it? I don’t have a problem tipping 20% normally but it isn’t fair to all the other waiters in the world that you get such an inordinate amount of money for the same task.
servers and bartenders are fucking scum. every single one i know rakes in $50,000+ year TAX FREE plus another $10-20k in their wages. and they have the nerve to complain when someone leaves 10% instead of 20%. and they have the easiest fucking jobs, but "boo hoo a customer was annoying today." shut the fuck up. fuck going out to eat in the US or going to bars, it literally costs 10x more than eating/drinking the SAME SHIT at home.
>>16945752>>16945754>>16945782>>16945797>all this pilpulSpare not even a freckleOf thos sheckels
I don't tip the harder working spic that picked/slaughtered the ingredients-no one caresI don't tip the hard working chef-no one caresI don't tip the hard working manager-no one caresI don't tip the hard working plumber that fixes the toilet after I block it shitting out your food-no one caresI don't tip the plate carrier-suddenly everyone is pissed offwaiters expect to get $40 an hour when they have the easiest job in the wagie supply chain fuck themI would tip negative if I could
>>16944563I will never understand this. America is truly fucked with the tipping bullshit. Here in Europe we don't tipat restaurants, like ever because the workers are required by law to be paid a livable wage. Same with pizza delivery drivers, these motherfuckers get paid a more than 40% of jobs in my country and some idiots still ocassionaly tip them.
>>16944707>This triggers the wage slave
>>16944563Minimum tip is 10%, anything less is insulting.If you don't tip well, you're just a coping poorfag taking it out on an innocent person.
>>16944983Sounds like that's what you should do if you can't afford to tip
>>16944945Based retard
>>16945819Tips aren't tax free and no, you don't know anyone who made 50k a year in tips alone. Tipping appropriately really isn't a big deal. In my experience, only poorfags care about it.
>>16945162Toppest of keks
>>16946043It's easier for businesses to pay you less than the regular minimum wage and let the customers decide your worth in tips. Our system will never go away because tipping is ingrained in so many systems and service is seen as a low skilled job that they don't deserve a liveable wage. But don't ever come here and say liveable wage or you might upset the wealthy.
>>16944889then you get to enjoy pushing the faggots into the woodchipper
>>16946119lol no shit they aren't tax free, they just don't report them because they're in cash. and yes i fucking do, they probably make more than that, they'd easily pull in $500-1000 in a weekend alone.
>>16944561>Do you know what this is? It's the world's smallest violin playing just for the waitresses.
I DINK WE SHULD LET DA GUBBERMENT DECIDE ON DA FAIR MONEY PAY INSTEAD OF DA CUSTOMER, DOLAN DRUMP WILL SET DA RIGHT WAGE SO I NO TIP NO MORE!!!CLAP CLAP CLAP WHISTLE WHISTLR
>>16945684I'm a bartender at a nice place and I pull about 90 a year while the kitchen guys make 40. Pretty based if you ask me
>>16946226Or better yet, the employer.
>>16944561Hold up, since when the fuck were tips 20%? It was always 15%
>>16946119>t. lives in the bible belt and is likely under 18>>16946165It's not hard to pull $1000 on a weekend if you're good at bullshitting people and convincing them they should throw money at you
>>16944563Imagine actually living in a tipping culture hahahahahah
>>16944623Truly based
>>16944561I'm sorry Dave, I was a server for many years too.
>>16944561Fuck celebrities and fuck twitterpostingAlso fuck jannies
Here's what happens when I go out to eat:The waitress eye's me down as I walk into the restaurant, she's standing at her podium, slim waist covered by a cute little apron and blond hair covering her nametag. I can see her eye twitch a tiny bit, a small breath quickly exhaled as she notices my white skin and gold watch. It's 2pm on a weekday, but I'm not wearing a suit, I'm wearing some plaid shorts, some boat shoes, and a supreme hoodie. Without a word she motions for me to follow her. On the way there I tell her I want an old fashioned and the rib eye, medium rare. She brushes my shoulders off as I sit down and makes a cute little giggle. The table is for one, looking out over a beautiful park filled with modern statues of culture. She returns with my drink, telling me if I need anything at all she will be right there, and that her name is Sasha. I play on my phone, making fun of neets on a fishing fourm. She stops by with another martini for me, telling me she thought she would "top me up" while biting her lip gently. I politely decline the succubuses advances, but I wink at her and grin. I go back to playing my phone in peace, martinis appearing as fast as they go. In short time my steak is brought forth. I see Sasha walking to the table, hips swaying gently as she sets it down. The steak is absolutely divine, perfectly cooked. Sasha brings me a small mint, it's from switzerland, and clears my plate. I ask for the check, and she brings it back to me, batting her eyelashes as she tells me to have a good day. I leave Sasha a 25% tip, maybe one day I will come back and try to fish, and try her as well. The service was impeccable, the food grand, and most of all the companionship heart-fluttering.Here's what happens when you go out to eat:You sit down in the McDonald's. Nobody comes over. Your legs hurt and your oxygen tank is heavy. You walk to the register. A fat black grandma who's nametag says "Monique" glances up and then back down at the computer. (1/2)
>>16944582Yeah this. It has gotten to the point I hate going out because I don't wanna deal with this ship. I generally tip 15-20 percent myself, 10-12 if the service is bad, but I hate how we got to a point where it is the customers responsibility to pick up the slack
>>16944563OP, I feel you on the second post. Some restaurants $200 could be 3-4 meals.But if I had to serve $80,000 worth of liqueur That Tip would become a service fee.
>>16946425"S'CUSE ME, can I HELP YOOU?" Monique says. "Yes, I would like the chocolate frosty and 2 large fries" you say. "SUR, DIS AIN'T NO WENDYS. PICK SUMTHIN ON DA MENU PLEEZE"You huff and puff, and finally settle on a plain double burger and an apple pie. Monique asks for your name, you tell her "Gary" but she puts down "Gay". You go to sit down, just to find a group of fat Mexican gang members eyeing you up. You sit on the table that has dirty napkins with snot on them still instead. "ORDUH FOR GAYYY" you here. You go up to the window and grab your tray. You sit down ready to eat, but smell a familiar scent of pickles. You notice they put everything on your burger, again, and it's only a single. There's no apple pie either. You go up to the window, and tell Monique your order was wrong. "SIR, THAT IS YAH ORDUH. THATS WHATCH WE MADE YOOU". You continue to argue with Monique, you show her the reciept. "SIR, YAH NAMES GARY, I HEARD YAH SAY "GARY", THAT ORDERS FOR GAY SIR. PLEASE WAIT FOR YAH OWN ORDAH". at this point your ears hurt from all the loud sounds, a small child has pooped in the kids area, and you're already down $5. You give up, go back to your car without even letting Monique keep the change, and on the way out of the parking lot moniques boyfriend who is a gang member throws you out of the car and beats you with your own oxygen tank for disrespecting his women.
>>16946288Yeah, because employers are notoriously good at paying you appropriately for your level of commitment. A boss would never even dream of demanding better work for less pay from his employees.
Here’s your tip wagie now clean it up
>>16945740Black americans are also known for not tipping. Can't say about indians, but jews obviously
>>16944561Try that shit in Bongland snowflake, I dare you.You Ameritards are weak and timid . Why the fuck should I pay extra money for my food or goods? The server is paid to serve me.If a server in Bongland ever tried to make me tip them I would loudly demand to see their manager and I would not pay for the meal either. The manager would pay for it while apologising profusely for the rudeness of their employee.
>>16946582How do I turn a glass upside down like that?
>>16944623I want to stop but when Im a regular I dont want spit in my food
>>16946723>>16946747https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKHsJAy_peoAlso if you are a regular just tip the lowest percentage.
>get check>write cash on the top>don't leave any cash>manager suspects the waitress pocketed it
>>16944610>>16944634Go back to 9gag you fuckin retard.
>>16946307It's a range. When a bill has the gratuity included (yes, that's you being billed directly for a "tip"), it's usually 18%. 15% is what you would do if the service was nothing special but not bad enough to stiff them. 20% is for good service.
>>16946797Hi, Dave
>>16944561I hate the servers just as much as I hate the business owners.See, the business owners refuse to pay their employees livable wages, and due to the nature of tipping culture, found an easy excuse for not paying them a livable wage. They dump the responsibility of paying the employee fairly onto the off chance the customer decides to tip them for their "service." It sounds believable too. "Just work a little harder anon. The better your service, they might just pay you more!"All the while the server falls for this trap, lining the pockets of the business owner or corporation that owns their stupid ass, and then they fall into this cycle of abuse where in order to get by they have to put up with massive amounts of harassment from the public on a regular basis in order to bring home enough to eat and not have to sleep on the streets. Minimum wage workers are the least entitled people in the entire western workforce. The middle class literally coasts on a plethora of privileges that they take for granted day in and day out, yet constantly berate, harass, and belittle the ones who work under them because they have no other choice.Fuck you.
Americans are fucking insane
>>16944787this, the laws need fixed
>>16946425>supreme hoodielmao
>>16946719Then you'd be reported to police and get a court summons, I hope it doesn't cost you more than 10$ in time and money.
>>16944602This
>>16947021>>16947021We're not insane, we're just incredibly stupid. I left the United States for the first time a few years ago. Lived abroad for three months. Came back and felt like I just returned to Hell.I used to be a liberal, then went to being a conservative, then an alt-righter, to now being so far left and anti anything to do with this shit hole that I honestly hope this country gets nuked off the face of the planet. Everyone here is an ignorant asshole, self-absorbed,overly materialistic, and too dumb, lazy, or willfully ignorant to pick up a book or analyze history to realize what's happened to them. The country has been coasting on the post WWII economic boom that has largely come to an end. And now that the dollar isn't worth shit anymore, and we aren't the only economically functioning country in existence anymore, american habits of spending extravagantly have finally caught up with the failing economy, hence why everything is on it's head.The sooner China/Russia/Iran/whoever takes us out, the better. if I'm not out of the United States by 2025 I'm an heroing.
>>16944604> t.
>>16944615Not soon enough.
>>16947088Do it pussy you won't
>>16944561You paid for 90k usd worth of service, you better pay the individual that provided it
>>16947088>everyone in my country sucks but me
>>16944604>rwdsnever gonna happen, would have to get off the mobility scooter
>>16944563You do realize the more stuff you order the more labor performed thus the more you should tip.
>>16945684>On top of that, they don't share with the cooks who do the ACTUAL work.When I was in the cooking industry, this drove me up the wall to no ends. I walk home drenched in sweat after washing dishes, pulling out plates like mad, taking out bags upon bags of trash. And I get chump change for pay. Servers "barely paid" anything, but they're walking home with tips bigger than my paycheque a night. And ask any of them if they want to cook, "hell no".I used to tip and feel guilt tripped because they're so "poor". Now? I still tip at the typical rate ~18%. But with a tinge of fiery anger in every penny.
>>16946519how fucking hard is it to serve someone food dude, I never tip and im proud of it. insert mr pink pic
>>16946425>>16946495Nice
>>16944602I don't wanna scare you bro but did you know when you buy anything from any restaurant or store, you're... you're paying the wages of the employees?WTF!!
>>16944561>bringing bottles to a table without even pouring them is worth $20,000
btw I hope they ban tipping just for the hilarity that would ensue>TIPPING IS ILLEGAL, YOU MUST NOW BE PAID A "LIVING WAGE" BY YOUR EMPLOYER>$9 an hour GUARANTEED, fucking BASED!!! FUCK YOU EVIL CORPORATIONS!>prices of food at restaurants go up>customers eat out less>some stores close due to less business, some servers lose their jobs completely>the remaining waitresses end up making less because it turns out they actually make more when people are inclined to tip, especially when the waitresses are actually friendly and attentive and good at their job, than they do when they're just paid a flat wageBUT AT LEAST THE "EVIL CORPORATION" (ie. some small cuck franchisee who's almost as poor as you and is just trying to keep his cuck franchise afloat) IS PAYING YOU A """LIVING WAGE"""!!!People begging to be allowed to shoot themselves in the foot is one of my favorite things ever, holy fuck you're all so fucking stupid.
Video related, the onion is the "living wage" and the "destruction of the oppressive tipping system" (or whatever the fuck) and the little girl is the collective of tipped employees who are demanding ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwv5quduzwQ
>>16945881You can, if you complain enough about the service then you can get a compd meal.
>>16944584>>16944945Based. They really think they deserve tips on top of their hourly wage for picking up plates. Suck my dick wagies and your 60 iq job. What better pay, increase your value to the market place. These are starter jobs that are meant for high school kids and degenerates. If you willingly work a shitty job without the pursuit of something for year I have no sympathy for any of you, in fact I despise you.
>>16945037Based
>>16944604no one cares about your virgin power fantasies
>>16946322What's it like constructing pure fantasies about how many tips waiters get just so you can punch down economically speaking
>>16944787Not quite true. In some states the owner can pay less than minimum wage if the servers tips add up to more than minimum wage. In others they are required to pay minimum regardless of the tips the staff earns. It’s not consistent and makes zero sense to have a consistent tipping policy
>>16946582jesus
>>16947295you know restaurants exists outside of America?
for all the talk you faggots have about immigrants coming over and not assimilating into our culture, you don't understand that tipping is part of our culture and you're just as bad as the dumb negroid
>>16947295Dude we've sailed on for decades subsidizing the price of food... The growers, the distributors, the processors, the retailers, and the restaurant industry ...?Illegal subsidized workers. Your getting a living wage which is BS because your not smart enough to figure out guaranteed income and immigration controls. Your getting it sooner (better) or later (worse).
>>16947373This. Good thing these raging incels don't make enough to go out to eat very often, and certainly not at nice places.
>>16944602this kills the burger
>>16944764> Goes on business and finance board and acts like money isn't everythingthen give me $10 pussy
>>16947566Get a better job, poorfag
>>16947566>goes on business and finance board>can't afford to throw away $10 here or there
>>16947576I'm sorry, who the fuck are you?
>>16946425pasta
>>16947588Top fucking jej>>16947566This has to be bait
>>16944561
>>16947588> doesn't know the difference between "can't" and "won't"
>>16944991By what metric?
>>16947652>I won't afford to throw away $10jagdeep.... find a new english tutor
>>16946090Yeah what about the employer paying the wagie proper wage? No? Then get stiffed motherfucking nigger. I ain't leaving any tips to support your stupid ass fucking system. Get fucked.
>>16947189How about you do your fucking job that you are already getting paid for?
>>16947338>>16944945For me? Its "you're getting 2 to 5 bucks, regardless of meal cost and you can choke on my cock if you want another 2"
>>16944732>150 a day for bringing plates from point a to point btalk about a fucking scam
>>16947189>OMG I had to carry FOUR plates for 15 feet instead of TWO plates! I DEMAND an extra hours worth of wage for lifting my arms twice as much!
>>16947749> haha even though i understand what he was saying... haha i'll pretend i don't!!! and then i will make a neat little remark. that's how you trole 4chan style wow EPIC!!! haha
>>16944623>>16944634>>16944945>>16945061>>16946343>t.
Honestly it’s a combination of tipping and the constant waiter interactions that are why I rarely eat out. Go away and let me eat in fucking peace.The sooner automation gets affordable and puts these fucks out of a job the better.
This does not happen in Europe, I never tip unless I am eating at a very posh place
>>16944818Because servers make 40 an hour at nice restaurants T. Former fine dining server Some nights I made 100 an hour
>>16947963holy shit $100 an hour for running plates...wtf is this world..
>>16947870It’s actually a lot more stressful than you would think. Although they are only stressed when they have tons of tables at once. Sometimes it’s very relaxed.
>>16947973Well yeah but I’m only working a 4 hour shift and making 400 on a Saturday. it’s not full time.And it’s mostly boomers that tip nice. Young people don’t dine out as much and don’t tip as much. Good paid servers will die with boomers
>>16947973
>>16947973It’s not as easy as you think. Like I said in the previous post, some days are incredibly stressful and some days aren’t. I gave up the job because it was so stressful when it got busy. So if you think I would give up a job so “easy” for that money, you’re naive. It’s utter chaos as a server during dinner rush and one little thing can domino effect and get you fired
Watch kitchen nightmares with Gordon Ramsey and you’ll see how stressful it can be for servers at times. Though you can’t possibly understand without actually doing it yourself
>>16945848I always tip over 20%, and I have worked for tips
>>16948004>>16947977Trade jobs, any skilled work, and middle managment are more stressful than carrying some plates, writing down orders, and paying attention to 10-20 tables (i would assume?) to see if they need refills etc. and waiters want the same money as managing associates and store logistics. Honestly, waiters are just some of the most entitled people, maybe next to sime of the customers they wait on im sure (as is normal in any and all jobs working with the public). If they really thought that their employer "paying less than minimun wage" (they dont, since it us required by law to make up the difference if tips dont even out the employers wage to min wage level) and sometimes not getting "enough" tips is so opressive and unfair they should form a union or, better yet, just lobby together to change that. But they wouldnt/couldnt do that, because regardless of "not getting good enough tips" other people will line up quickly to get the chance to make that much money for carrying some plates.
>>16948096Honestly I can’t think of a single job that would be more stressful than a server during a dinner rush. I’ve done quite a few stressful jobs and server takes the cake. I would have nightmares about going back into work. You can’t possibly fathom it without doing it. All it takes is one little thing to throw a monkey wrench into the flow of serving. One customer who talks to you way too long making all your other tables late. The chef made the wrong order now you lose out on a good tip. A server took your food instead of theirs. Sooo many things that can fuck you.
>>16944905>>16945004>>16944984>>16944965American in europe here, as much as you guys think you have it better. The price for a single entree+ drink meal+tip in america end up around 18-20$ or less and in the EU its 25-30$ without tips.Like the food is undeniably 50% pricier here, and to top it off your waiters are cold, ignore customers, make you wait forever and never refil your drinks frequently. In america you have a drink brought to you within 2-3 minutes of sitting down, and they'll refil it and check in on you 5-6 times in a meal. It's a cheaper and better experience.
>>16944623This. Why do people tip? Don't they like money?
>>16948225Yeah because why work hard to impress your guests if you are getting paid an hourly rate ? There’s no incentive.
>>16948153Yeah, many moving parts is obvious. You create a Euler Circuit in your head and adapt it as you run into each occurence. Its basic logistics, which many people find stressful when coupled with human interaction (moving parts).Trust me, managing 10-15 direct subordinates, all customers who require managerial assistance, assistant mngmt team, district manager checkups (this is basic middle managment, any WalMart, Dollar store, BASIC retail) has twice as many moving parts and twice as much accountability and almost identical pay compared to "properly tipped" waiters. Its really absurd how overblown a waiter will make out the stress of their job when you consider what they make vs. time spent doing actual work.
i alway tip 10%. thats my max i usually round up to a 5 or 0, but thats it.In restaurants, i think waiters should have a set salary and no tips, but the kitchen staff should get a salary and tips, they are making the food.
>>16948275Because they want to go back to the restaurant without snaut in their food. Yes it happens. I worked in 4 different restaurants they remember the non tippers and they try to make you sick so you won’t come back
>>16948277Presumably because customers would rate the place poorly, thus causing management to reprimand the workers?
>>16944561I don't understand how tips fucking work. In Europe waiters have a salary, you don't tip them anything other than the change if you want to. Am I obligated to tip them in Clappistan?
>>16948280T. Never been a server Go do it then tell me how easy it is
>>16948284Well if you don’t want timely refills and you like cold food then try European dining. No tip necessary. Food price goes up because they have to pay their workers more. Quality of service goes down.
>>16948290The workers will just quit and be replaced by even worse workers. Low pay attracts low quality workers. High pay gets you the best possible service and food is cheaper cause the boss doesn’t have to pay them that much
Rofl, never tipping. Such a backward fucking culture in the US.
>>16947295Are you honestly defending tipping? Holy fuck you Americans are retarded as fuck.
>>16948299Why would I work an entry level job? Im not in school or a single mom who had a kid before I was financially stable. Are you honestly trying to say your store manager doesnt have it as hard as you, the monkey who carries the plates? Ive managed a few retail stores when I was still in schooling and yeah it was hard(er than being a waitress), but thats what the job is so you do it or get a new job/advance your career positions. The fact you think an entry level job that anyone could be trained to do is a daunting task says a lot about your work ethic. I worked on a farm for 10 years when I was a kid. I doubt you could even last a day doing a basic round of chores, as I did when I was a child, bud.
>>16948332So you like high food prices and worse quality service ?
>>16948348T. Never been a server
>>16944632He wears chains, just not around other niggers because he knows they will steal them.
Fucking hell, whingy servers make me wish automation will hurry up and replace them. Might finally come to the realization of how mundanely easy their tasks are. Seems the big argument they have about why they should be valued is always threat of worse service or spitting in food.
>>16946582Umm the buss boy cleans that up not the server
>>16948419>FUCKING WAITRESS DOESNT EVEN HAVE TO PICK UP THE PLATES AND COMPLAIN ABOUT HOW HARD THEIR WORK ISHAHAHA YOUR A JOKE FUCKING AMERICA
>>16948442The buss boy gets some tips at the end of the day every server gives him like 5 bucks
>>16945752>People who tip 30%I tip 15% and that's it. The thing that pisses me off these days are people that think I should tip minimum 20%. It's not my fault that inflation is fucking you in the ass. Kys.
>>16948412I wish amazon would make a serverless restaurant but something tells me they are waiting to be able to automate the cooking process which is much less trivial. They basically have all the code already for >take plate from here to here>send bill and collect money from here>take dirty dishes from here to here
>>169484525 buck is that 20% of the tips you get? You do give him at least 20% yes? Of course it is you eould not want to be hypocrit yes?
>>16948510Just pay cooks more. It actually takes skill to cook so give them a bit more even and remove the plate monkeys. Seem like win-win, dumb Americans provably still give the restuarant tips anyways.
>>16948015>Watch a TV drama to see how real life is.
>>16944561I always tip well in places i plan to return to, because i once worked in food service. If its a one time visit your tip is a reflection of your service.
>>16944682exactly. IMO as a former server, there shouldnt be a difference in tip between a $50 bottle of wine and a $500 bottle of wine.Same amount of labor to the server and the somme.
>>16944563Shit like this just really grinds my gears. Can't wait to go to my next restaurant with friends and trash the table and just walk out. Not our fault you chose this shitty job wagie
>>16948701I don't exactly agree. Someone serving $500 bottles of wine should be much more professional and attentive than someone serving $50 bottles of wine. The difference in skill between a mediocre server and an outstanding one is quite large.However, there's already an existing system for compensating workers sufficiently based on their skill level and market worth. It's called wages. Tips are fucking retarded, and are really just a way for kike restaurant owners to make the prices on the menu seem smaller than they really are with the tip tax.
>>16947194Wow you're really showing those servers tipping them 18%. Fucking cuck
Shouldn't his employer be there one required to pay that 11k?
Why the fuck should the tip be proportional to the yotla expenditureWaiter is just walking with a plate, is it harder to walk with caviar than with fried fucking chicken ?
>>16949225yotla?
>>16944563The absolute state
As an American, I used to tip a lot, 20%+, dollar or two on drinks. I got an asian gf and watched as she tipped $0 on takeout, 10% rounded down on checks while she always feels free to bother staff. I started doing what she does and Im saving a good bit of money with no decline in service.
>>16947250>totally misses the point>arrogant, sarcastic toneGod I hate people like you so much
>>16948965I presupposed that the wine was being purchased from the same location. So same staff selecting and serving the bottle.
>>16948153Doctor, firefighter, pilot, literally any job is harder than taking an order and bringing out food. This has to be bait.
>>16944614>This chick will overdose on opioids by age 30, guaranteed.probably the only good news ive read today
>>16944635my fucking mailman decided to be a bitch and fuck up my amazon fresh delivery sending it to the wrong house after he realized i wasnt going to tip his ass. these assholes decide to take it out on the customer for something they signed up to do.
>>16949358If you're buying a $500 bottle of wine at an establishment which also serves $20 bottles of wine (keep in mind they're selling you a $10 bottle for $20 here, it's swill), you're seriously fucking up. Might as well bring your own wine to McDonald's.
>>16949358>>16949552Ah I fucked up the number, but the point basically stands. If you go to a good restaurant and order a $500 bottle of wine, you'd expect to be assigned premium wait staff.
>>16949581Sounds like you've never worked in the industry (not judging) The type of place that serves $500 bottles of wine won't really have A team B team and C team working the same shifts, and the difference between their A team and C team won't be that dramatic. All of their staff is typically trained to the A level.I agree with your point generally, you will certainly be getting premium service though
lmao tips, maybe they should ask for more money from their boss?
>>16948526>Just pay cooks more. It actually takes skill to cookHey fren I don't disagree I'm just wondering if that's how a "forward thinking" corporation like Amazon thinks
>>16946043I was a pizza delivery driver and was a little nervous about tips but I ended up making more than the in house workers and got to drive around making the day feel shorter. Not all areas tip the same.
If you think it's bad for waiters imagine how it is for delivery drivers. We actually have to spend money to keep up the maitenence of our car. I hope people get what they want by destroying tip culture, because then delivery will cease to exist. We would need to be paid $18/hr minimum for it to be remotely worth it and you will not see stores paying that.
This is why i dont give a fuck about wagies' "muh 20%". Here is the way i tip:<10$: round up to nearest dollar$10-$30: round up to nearest dollar and add 1$30-$50: round up to nearest dollar and add 2$50-$80: round up to nearest 5 dollars and add 5$80-150: round up to nearest 10 dollars and add 10$150-$300: round up to nearest 10 dollars and add 20$300<: round up to nearest $50 and add 20.Essentially, min tip is $0.01, max tip is $69.99.
>>16947189get a real job cunt
>>16950657>not all areas tip sameRacist fucking pig
>>16951269You don't even have a real job.
>>16944561Because by law they get paid like $4 an hour + tips, unless that would make them below minimum wageSociety and government over the last 100 years have realized that serving food is a stressful job they commands a higher wage than more basic jobs, but retardedly we have all decided a setup wherein the customer is tricked into thinking their bill is lower before the majority of the labor cost is factored in15-20% has been chosen as the reasonable added labor cost in this backwards setup, so until the laws change it pretty much means you're a dick for tipping lessBUT, in reality tipping is just a tax on the agreeable and the socially anxious, and a subsidy to the disagreeable and outright assholes who wouldn't be such if this system didn't let them
>>16951195I just don't tip, the whole idea gives me a headache. If you want me to do math, pay me. I'm not working for free. I have options.
>>16951068Nigger stores in Europe have their own cars
>>16949459Next time accidentally shoot him for trespassing
>>16947250you're an idiot - bro
>>16948412As always, trust the japanese to realize your dreams. No server niggers.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZiOB1eJ6Pw
>>16948225Our tax pressure is 3 times yours you tardbag
>>16951343>BUT, in reality tipping is just a tax on the agreeable and the socially anxious, and a subsidy to the disagreeable and outright assholes who wouldn't be such if this system didn't let themwoke.I sometimes tip but i will start to always tip zero and just write a note saying ask your boss for a raise.The us tipping system is retarded, i'm glad im european
>>16951068>americans are this brainwashed by their capitalist bossescome to europe loser, we got no tipping and yet we have food delivery and servers, how come?Could it be that maybe their boss pays higher wages and any cost is included in the customer bill?
>>16948373former Disshwasher here, you're a retard if you think basic bitch serving is the most stressful job in the world, literally all the servers I met were bitchy entitled high schoolers or single mothers who hasn't worked an actual job that isn't entry level bullshit.>nb4 t. never been a server because I can't make a legitimate argument you don't deserve shitNow get back to work you fucking wagie if I see anything messed up in my food I'll have your ass fired
>>16944561>there are people that still consume meals that they have not prepared themselves out of the comfort of their own home or with the good company of close friends
>>16944604It's funny that you think you wouldn't get scooped up and fucked by the real Chads of the world. Fuck i'm only Three-Quarter-Chad and would still take you and make you my gf.
>>16951361If you can't mentally figure out a 10, 15, or 20% tip in a few seconds you're fucking retarded.
Reminder that if you delivery drive and someone doesn't tip you incur no karmic penalty for slashing their tires.
>>16947189But we don't base tipping based on how much is ordered, it's based on a percent of the price, usually 15-20%So if go out with a big group and I order 20 plates of pancakes and 20 cups of coffee at a diner, I should tip the same as ordering dinner and drinks for 2 at a nice restaurant according to percent "logic".It's fucking stupid.
>>16944602Because it's a working system. Restaurants, especially small ones, operate on very slim margins, and being a server is the most brainless job in the world. Paying servers through commission encourages them to provide good service. Most restaurants aren't large corporations. At least the good ones anyway.
>write down what I want>enter it into POS>walk plate from kitchen to table>GIBS ME 20$GTFO
>>16944771based
>>16948225>Like the food is undeniably 50% pricier here,wut? I was in the US and paid like 16 bucks for a sandwich I can get two huge kebabs here in afghani- I mean germany. its also annoying having waitery constantly "check up" on you when you know theyre just begging for tips
>>16952609I was night security/bellboy at an expensive hotel one summer making $8/hr.If someone gave me $2 for schlepping their luggage from the lobby to their room I was happy.
I salute the Jewish people for actually convincing white people they're assholes if they don't give their employes money.They even go the extra mile to shame and attack people that don't tip. Just how cucked can you be on a social scale.You're literally paying for Schlomo's employees so he can pocket the money, and feel smug and righteous about it. Just how insanely dumb can you be?
The % thing doesn't even make any sense past a point. Yes, you're serving more expensive bottles and plates now, but you're still doing the same exact amount of work to do so. Your serving isn't any better than the bartender at the dive down the street. This bitch is really complaining about $11k in tips.
I've stopped eating out because at most places, these people take my order, give me my food and don't even walk by my table until we're done eating. That's not service. At that point I should tip the guy at the drive through at the McDonalds
95% of you don't dine out anyways don't act like you do
>>16953740our entire society is based on worshipping a jew on a stick, we've been jew cucked from the start
Restaurant servers are comically overpaid. Why should you get more money because I ordered a filet instead of a sandwich?
>>16944602Either you’d pay it in the form of a tip or as an increase in food prices to cover their wages. You need to think more critically.
>>16946979The consumers always pay the workers wages, who do you think generates the money?
>>16947088The USD has been gaining value versus every other major currency for years now what are you talking about.
>>16944561>>16944563Blame owners helping to push the>mandatory 20% tipmeme horseshit to keep personnel costs virtually non-existent.That chick almost guaranteed made that $15.86 is less than an hour. I have absolutely no sympathy for someone shoveling food and being polite thinking they deserve to make +$20/hr just because they work at a nice restaurant. Eat my dick and take whatever charity I give you. Beggars can't be choosers, and demanding tips/mandatory gratuity is literally just advanced panhandling.
>>16946097It's not my job to pay your employee's wages, scumbag.
>>16948225That has next to nothing to do with tips offsetting food costs and everything to do with subsidies and lower tax burdens in general.
>>16947088>to now being so far left>the failing economy, hence why everything is on it's head.>economy hitting record highs every week
>>16944654>>16944640Lmao, the yuropoor seething gets me every time
>>16946425>>16944945>>16944623Let me remind you what I do to servers. I'll tag a couple dollars, go into the bathroom, piss in the toilet then carefully dip the fee dollars in the piss. I'll go back to the table and place the bills under the drink so these idiots think it's just the drinks sweat. HahahaOne time had to shit really bad so I went and shit and smeared a little on a 5 dollar bill. I was hoping to place it on the table and leave but she walked up there as I placed it down. I said sorry i got some chocolate on it. Lmfao i didnt even have any chocolate. She grabbed it and wiped it on her pants and stuck it in her pockets. I could barely hold a straight face.Keep complaining you niggers and I'll keep thinking of better ways to fuck you over (^:
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>>16948412>servers can be replaced by a touch screen and a conveyor belt>servers want tips
>>16944561I don't tip. If the employer doesn't pay enough then enough employees will quit until someone accepting the reality of no tips as they service a paying customer.
>>16944563I fucking hate entitled cunts like this. She has 0 idea of the financial situation behind the people she served, the reason they're eating out, etc. For all this cunt knows these people saved up for weeks to be able to celebrate some sort of event for one of their kids, and $200 was their limit. God fuck these people so fucking hard.
Kaiten restaurants. Comfy.
How much you guys tip your landlord? I never know what I'm supposed to add or if I should be do more for special service- last month I did 25% since he replaced a broken hot water heater and it was christmas and all (Hanukkah for him), but normally I stick to about 10%.
>>16944561I don’t tip. I let the server know in advance. That way they can leave me the fuck alone when I’m eating.
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>>16954612effin smart
>>16944561>why yes, i bought the whole bar inventory, i should pay down a fifth of your student loan
Heres how I tip.Most of the time I tip 0%. sometimes if the service was really good I'll tip 0%, maybe even 0%.If the service was bad however, I'll only tip 0%, then I'll go in the bathroom and leave a present on the toilet seat
do americans really not tip? I think most canadians tip. these people make below minimum wage lmao.
>>16955437For some reason America managed to foster a simulatenous culture of "customer service jobs are low skilled and for retards and deserve no respect" and also "customer service must be excellent and cater to me at all times." So you just have a bunch of entitled mutts who probably don't even make that much more than servers acting like they're king fuck of shit mountain.
>>16944602Based. Chainlink will abolish these shackles.
>>16955555>>16955556FUCK
>>16952070based
>>16944602^this
>>16944623thank you for your service ;_;7
>>16954270>leftists>understanding economics or how to not run a country into the ground
>>16944561Isnt the usa the only nation that has the dumb tipping idea? I dont have intent on tipping. Remember getting treated badly at a workplace when i revealed i dont tip. I have to work but everyone else working can slack off. Meh whatever didn't care for what he said just mad i had to work while they got to slack off, the guy was a basedboy neckbeard supervisor in a call center while i quit soon after cause that job sucked.>>16944563A good reason never to tip.
>>16954776kek
>>16944561>>16944563If you’re going to tip anyone tip the chef directly. Fuck waiters/waitresses
>>16944561while the topic is up i have always had a questioncan anyone give me a list of all the wagies that you are expected to tip in burgerland and at what socially expected percentageit is a really fucked up and cucked system if you look at it from the outside and quite arbitrary as to which retards deserves the extra payday
>>16944602This. Kicker is its most common in tge usa. Lol, land of the free they say. Government "for the people, by the people" but is more for the corporations now than 200 years ago.
>>16944615>entitledAlso the only way youre spitting in their food is if you did it before any tipping happened or they returned at a later time. In which case that is heavily encouraging to not tip at all if youre gonna spit in it anyways.Now that I think of it. If I open a restaurant, set up a bunch of cameras, catch an employee spitting in peoples food, can i then sue the heck out of him or throw him in jail knowing there's some sick creeps out there with illnesses and diseases that could really harm someone?
>>16951290Just to clarify: niggers and blackshits are the worst customers
>>16944623Based and redpilled.
>>16947250shut your fuckhole you absolute dunce, go back to facebook and never post here again
>>16948225I bet it's cheaper alright... because everything in the US is glyphosate drenched diabeetus inducing poison and the EU has food quality standards. Not high standards, mind you, just not absolute poison.The real tab comes when you get cancer from all the cheap-ass fake food and drink, that's where they get ya
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>>16949314Your girlfriend is cheap and shrewd.
>>16952261Look at the fucking schedule I replied to, you absolute waste of space. The only thing you are good at is disappointing everyone with your retarded timewasting.
>>16949314Why the fuck would you tip for takeout to begin with?
>>16944707>>16944615holy shit i hate servers shut the fuck up, that's not an insult you brought them a few goddamn plates
>>16944561This is nothing. If yoive never worked in a restaurant you have no idea what goes on. Its literally the dirtiest way of getting food/drinks you can think. Ive seen people adjust their dicks seconds before handling your food, probably a pube stuck somewhere in there and that was at a higher end restaurant. The staff from the kitchen to waiters literally does not give a shit about you.
>this entire threadyou lot need to be lined up against a wall and shot
>>16956953who the non tippers or the people who think they are entitled to tip
>>16944561>>16944563Why not include the tip as part of the main price if they have to be an obligated part of the final bill? They should be a reward to excelent place not a footnote that has to be paid no matter how shitty the food and/or service is
>>16956097Apparentely Canadians have this as well. And I think South Africa as well to a lesser extent
>>16944707Ok then who pays me a tip for staying after hours or having to take a flight at 6:30 for work. You?
>>16951308Says the 'guy' begging for scraps because even his boss won't pay him
>>16956107This. Who gives a FLYING FUCK how you get your food, it's all about the quality.
>>1695554990% of customer service jobs literally are low skilled and suitable for retards. Many of us have worked as servers or waiters in high school/college and then moved on to jobs that actually contribute to society in a meaningful way. The problem then is exactly what you said, many of us with productive careers dont make that much more than the monkeys carrying plates, and dont have any tolerance for attitude from the retarded monkeys who think they contribute equally to society as us.
>>16944769shame they get cucked? anon, serving tables is good money. there's a reason people do it for 10-15 years while they pursue a masters or whatever the fuck long term goals they have. it's good money and easy work compared to any other entry level job.
>>16947194yeah, I used to work kitchens too and it's made me jaded about tipping waitstaff in general. these cunts would regularly come back to the kitchen and bitch about tables leaving 10-15% too...like they were getting stiffed and we should fucking care. Every night I'd work 8 hours at $7.50 or so and make shit for pay. every night the waitstaff would pull in $150-$250 a night in tips + whatever wage they earn.
>>16948153seriously? how bout working the kitchen during a dinner rush? holy shit. this is why the kitchen staff hated you. you're taking orders and filling drinks and think that's the hard part of a dinner rush.... the kitchen is serving every table seated...not just yours
Daily reminder, this is how true men tip.By tipping you're allowing the most sub-humans workers to feel entitled to ask for a tip and not even being satisfied if you simply round up the price (ex. $12.84, at best I would pay $13.00, just to not receive changes).
>>16946719You sound like a real cool dude. Not poor or petty at all.
>>16958651undeniably based.
>>16944561>>16944563I'm glad I don't live in a third world shithole where businesses need customers to pay their employee's wages.
>>16946434>10-12 if the service is badHoly shit, imagine tipping >10% for bad service.
>>16959303I know, Jews really got me good. I tend to not top for bad service if it is an establishment I don't frequent, however. I just don't want them spitting in my food