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Drumpf lost the petrodollar. It is over for burgers!
The US UK Israel rothschild petrodollar system just ended with Trump cucking out in that epic address to the nation! The US did not respond with total war when Iran bombed their bases! The armageddon is here but it is going to be humiliating. a Financial and military humiliation!

https://www.amazon.com/Petrodollar-Warfare-Iraq-Future-Dollar/dp/0865715149

Iran is going to close the strait of hormuz next and openly challenge the US navy to war! They have all burger bases mapped from chinese satellite intel and armed to the teeth with chinese high tech weapons. Dumb burgers are fighting a high tech proxy war and still havent realized that they are no longer a super power! Its already happened. The great habbening of out time is the epic zion don address to the nation when he cucked to Iran and destroyed the petrodollar which makes the meme!
The petrodollar fuel that powers the US economy at the high altitude of 30000 ft just ran out because of drumpf. We are on a glide path to economic depression and stock market crash at the mercy of IRAN not fucking around.
Let discuss the greatest geopolitical habbening of our time!

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>>16825872
First red pill

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>>16825878
second red pill

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>>16825887

>> No.16825914

>>16825887
Nobody wants the yuan

>> No.16825927

And that's a good thing. Fuck the US

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>>16825887
China is also preparing a blockchain based nationalized cryptocurrency. I was just thinking the other day, if someone came up with a world reserve currency to knock the USD off its throne, or oil countries decided to create some shitcoin as a currency specifically for oil trades, we, the US, are FUCKED.

bullish for link btw

>> No.16825929

>>16825872
Here's your redpill according to Dr David Hawkins:

Consciousness determines everything. The higher the level of consciousness the greater the power.

At last count Iran calibrated at 185 and the Republic of China (measured in 2004) at 300.

The USA was at 421.

The USA will win whatever conflict occurs and then help rebuild the losing country after. It is a warrior with a heart.

>> No.16825939

>>16825872
>>16825896
>still using memes

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>>16825872
911 II after reelection will fix it. Iran is the new Iraq.
Then the PNAC's built-to-order (((SPACE PEARL HARBOUR))) follows.
Then ET helps steer big rock and we all party on Mars.
Then we are attacked by literal Martians we 3D-printed ourselves.
>All Is Well.

>> No.16825979

>>16825887
Bruh this has been overt for about 15 years at least. The plan is set in stone. Just prepare accordingly.

>> No.16825990

>>16825887
>believing chinese can do shit
KEK

Russians are the "real enemy", china is just a lapdog.

>> No.16826001

>he unironically believes this
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.16826020

I remember when "the USA fights for oil". Now that the USA is a net exporter of oil, it's about "the petrodollar"

Btw if it actually is about the participate then I fully support American imperialism. If they aren't doing it it would be somebody else who is probably way fucking worse (russia/china).

>> No.16826022

>>16825990
Special lamp post will be reserved for you. fucking goy. China is the new lapdog of the same master. The old one was US.

>> No.16826036

Fucking retarded korean autocorrect. I mean about the petrodollar of course.

Just think what sort of mess would be happening if chinks were doing what America has been.

>> No.16826055

You realize the us has the strongest navy in the world by far right? Im not even a burger supporter, but its true. If iran did anything, they would be done, especially at sea. Thats why the lackluster response for their main general. They prolly just gonn get overthrown by a cia backed/incited color revolution

>> No.16826080

>>16825872
>that pic

I'm pretty sure Trump has sucked at least one or two black dicks in his life

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>>16825929
>>16825990
>>16826020
>>16826022

The petrodollar is what sustains the low inflation of the west! China now has all of the middle east oil, the markets of Asia and Europe and the global manufacturing base of the world. they do not need the US consooooomer market anymore! We make nothing but burgers and bombs! The future is very bleak, crash before 2020 ends that will permanently set the west on a course of material and ec0nomic decline!

The petrodollar is backed by TOTAL WAR! The jews wanted this war by roasting salami on a bagdad sidewalk and when it came they backed out!

Iran is a 4th rate shithole power and we have no credible response!
Burgers cannot defend anything without losing everything! The persians who invented chess checkmated ziondon and his jew backers!

>> No.16826115

>>16826055
Iran actually has quite a solid navy. What burgers absolutely dominate is the air.

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>>16826055
Where is the response! I dont care if you have the biggest gun if you are not prepared to use it!

In realpolitik the credible use of force is what counts! burgers are behaving like niggers when it comes to Iran.

Hold me back or ill.....you will do what? Nothing!!!! No one is holding burgermurica back and they responded like a hamster that saw a snake after their base got bombed like an alqaeda training camp!

We lost very very very bigly! no one has yet realized the scale of this loss! We have been supplanted. We are no longer a credible power!

>> No.16826145

>>16826090
You fucking glow. You know what you are talking about and are trying to fool a couple biztards as a homework from shekelstein or something.
Iran is the future ideological center and natural resource provider for the economic centre which is China. US will be abandoned as an HQ, but the master will stay the same. USD will go the way of GBP.

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>>16826115
Rules of air based warfare has been changed with high tech cheap missiles that are precision guided.

You have a smart phone that costs less than $100 with GPS! ziocon boomers convinced the US army boomers that Iran is a nation of goatfuckers like saddams Iraq in the 90s.

You do not need stealth aircraft to hit targets with precision. Missiles cost a fraction of the cost and have no deterrence! We lost the big game for the world to see!

>> No.16826184

>>16825872
this is the first good deed he done
someone probably told him he will get jfk-ed

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>>16826145
The jews lost everything!

Do you not see! If burgers cannot protect their bases from Iran in Iraq where they have a massive presence, how will they protect Israel or saudi arabia.

US lost the middle east and the jews are going to have to re-negotiate the existence of the of Israel with the mullahs before 2020 is over!

>> No.16826193

>>16825872
Thinking the petrodollar is to America's benefit lmfao

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>>16826187
Iran has nothing to do with what America does in the Mid East. The US no longer needs the Strait to be open, and in fact the Strait being open is bad for business, pic related.

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>>16826254

>> No.16826292

>>16825929
>warrior with a heart.
warrior without a heart. the US always "rebuilds" a country with the goal of making that country entirely dependent on the US. why do you think it has the strength that it does?

>> No.16826305

>>16826271
Awful meme. China can't get oil from the Middle East to China without American say-so. The JSDF would rape the PLAN if America left the region.

>muh pipelines!

They're not finished, and they can't supply the capacity China needs either. Nor would they be invulnerable; most of those pipelines are within range of a B-2's strike range. And one bomb knocks out the whole system for weeks, maybe months.

>> No.16826311

>>16826187
They're not. Israel is a project long overdue. Look up what Kissinger said about it. There are Jews and jews.

>> No.16826335

>>16826022
You think China is letting the chosen in? Xi has made it clear they're not open to a parasitical infection.

>> No.16826353

>>16826187
Trump's plan all along is to reign in the american Empire. Much of this is theatre to try to preserve American prestige. But he's a boomer and his grandkids are (((chosen))) so freeing themselves will be the next big battle for the Anglo nations.

>> No.16826365

>>16826353
Abdicating the throne isn't really the same as reigning in the American empire.

>> No.16826375

>>16826149
GPS does not function at the speed of missiles

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>>16825872
>We know the prophecy

>> No.16826392

Everyone on biz who hates/obsesses over the US is a 3rd worlder

>> No.16826417

>>16825872
Imagine still thinking oil is important. It’s going to 30 bucks a barrel.

>> No.16826581

>>16826335
You do not even need to be an insider or anything. Just think. For whom do you think they have built the entire ghost cities. Few high ranking kikes, scientists and so on. But on way different terms they were used to in West.
Rest of the mason and occult nepotist scum is useless and will be thrown to get lynched by masses which I definitely look forward to.

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>>16826305
hahahahaha

Burgers have been exposed as a paper tiger. You cannot defend anything without losing everything in a total war with IRAN! a 4th rate shithole power!

USA, UK and Israel are done! If you do not respond with a credible show of force to your base being bombed by IRAN what will you do when china sets up base in Iraq.

Total war with China? The humiliation is just beginning. by the end of this year US burger army will be out of the land of middle east salami! Israel will have to negotiate with Iran to exist by the end of 2020!

>> No.16827450

>>16825872
>chinese high tech weapons
oof

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>>16826378
The prophecy is over! US and their high IQ closest ally just destroyed the foundation of petrodollar prosperity that allows Europe and burger land to enjoy low inflation!

If burgers cant defend their base, they wont defend Israel and they wont defend saudi arabia ! everything is lost!

You need a politician or a Military General who has an iron will to wage total war against IRAN....just IRAN that will cost 200K + Iranians and tens of thousands of US troops!

The USA has been exposed! all your military credibility is now in tatters unless you respond with total war but you cannot because you are no longer a power!!!!

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>>16827450
your base got bombed and you responded like a hamster that saw a snake!


Everything has changed after zion don cucked! All talk no action has real consequences in geopolitics!

put up or shut up burger!

>> No.16827536

>>16825872
do we even have pictures of the US bases befre/after being bombed? i don'0t see any.

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>>16826392
I love the US. But it has been destroyed by the actions of a greedy few!

you still have not yet come to terms! the US is never going to engage Iran in war, china in war or russia in war! its over...America's bluff was called and we are exposed as nobody's in the middle east!

unless you are willing to carpet bomb IRAN into submission you cannot stay there! These are the ancient rules of geopolitics from Rome to present day.

the reason you cannot defend yourself is because the war will destroy you overnight so you de-escalate.

The armageddon came and went all with one roast salami on a bagdad sidewalk! the humiliation of the US will begin with Iran closes the strait of hormuz and engages the US navy in total war!

Who is going to fight that war? burgers will cuck just like now! burgers are not a real power any more! You cannot flex and stay if you do not project power! basic rule of geopolitics!

>> No.16827560

>>16827454
euro land does not enjoy low inflation, they suffer it, because, u know, there isn't any money printed there. so inflation isn't going to go up.

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>>16825928
>thinking anyone would ever trust the chinks despite the dearth of good options
Oh sweetie

>> No.16827598

>>16825872
Bro they bombed the iraqi military's bases not ours. You're easily coerced or a jew trying to coerce.

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>>16827560
It will get massively worse now that the petrodollar has been destroyed.

Do you not understand yet the gravity of what has happened! The cabal is USA, UK and Israel that supply energy to Europe!

That is going to get become massively more expensive because you no longer can control the middle east with a barrel of a gun!

Its over, we are the naked emperor and Persians called our bluff and we are exposed all holes wide open!

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>>16827598
burger bro, they bombed the base US presidents visit! And that was just a warning shot! We cucked and the whole world so it. We are so shameless that we have not accepted what has happened and Iran did not launch a second volley that would have completely wiped out all US bases in Iraq.

Also some inside info I picked up on /pol/ apparently burgers and bongs set up secret covert bases near or inside the IRAN border near the oil fields where the sunnis are the dominant population.

Iran bombed them also and unknown number dieded. This was part of the planned invasion because our closest ally convinced boomers that persians are low iq goat fuckers!

Persians invented chess! And they check mated us! they have been selling oil for high resolution satellite intel and precision guided bombs from china for oil. china is playing a proxy war to get the US out of the middle east and they won bigly!!!!

We are done! You cannot defend anything without losing everything fool! That is call check-mate and that is what Drumpf and his high IQ closest ally have got us into! The only next step is the slow humiliation as we are driven out of every base by the simple question if you cannot wage war with Iran what the fuck are you doing here!

China will ban you from the south china seas. US will wage total war against china! USA is no longer a super power just another country with a bomb....out dated aircraft carriers and totally outdated airforce.

The first wave of bombers hit IRAN, the mullahs will launch thousands of low cost precision guided missiles at all US bases, Israel, Saudi Arabia. Also the chinese have stolen all your stealth and radar tech! and they have given it to IRAN because they seek to supplant the USA and they did!

We LOST EVERYTHING!

>> No.16827685

>>16827676
Take your meds, Hanoi Hannah

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>>16827685
US cannot protect the state of Israel. The US will not launch a nuclear war or a conventional total war for Israel.

The state of Israel has been doomed by Jared Kushners middle east policy. No petrodollar No Israel!

End story! The only solution is total war against Iran. If that does not happen no sunni govt will respect you there and US and Israels days are numbered.

>> No.16827752

>>16827730
We're already leaving, you retard. US troop levels in the region are down 80% from peak. We don't need the Middle East anymore, and when we leave the dunies are gonna have themselves a nice little religious war. One which I don't fancy Iran's chances in, for the most part.

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>>16827752
you leave you have no petrodollar economy!
China makes craps and sells crap to the US consooomer because it needs US dollars to power its economy.

Now the chinese have EVERYTHING on a platter handed to them by ziondon and his high IQ cronies!

They have the manufacturing base, access to the markets of Asia and europe while Europe and burgerland needs 'immigrants' to power its economy!

We will have nothing in walmart, lowes, or amazon unless we pay for it with real goods and services which we dont! Read the first red pill and understand the purpose of the petrodollar! We lost bigly!

>> No.16827842

>>16827809
The petrodollar is for the world's benefit, not America's. America's bottom line from non-NAFTA int'l trade is like 2% of GDP.

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>>16827842
hahahahaahahahahah

So the reason why so many burgers dieded int stupid wars in the middle east is because for the world! I have seen some low iq posts in my day but yours takes the prize!

>> No.16827877

>>16827864
Yeah, the US benefited from keeping a lock on the region, but not as much of a benefit as everyone else did. The US had alternative sources of oil. But, we don't benefit from it even a little bit anymore, so we're stopping doing it. Everybody else suffers for it, too.

>> No.16827883

>>16826129
what the fuck are you talking, if Trump can win the war without actually sending more military and spending more money it's a win. lol

>> No.16827907

If you think the petrodollar is relevant you are way behind the curve. Keep reading, don’t fall into self-congratulatory intellectual masturbation because you’ve finally read about the petrodollar and in your brain it clicked into place with the memes about American foreign policy and oil. The dollar is not backed by oil, nor are our foreign policy goals dictated by oil or OPEC valuation of oil in dollars. These are just cozy bonuses of the system the US has created. That system is much bigger and more developed than you’ve yet realized, and the countries of the world work within that system because it’s exceedingly beneficial to do so. And the longer the system continues existing, the less and less attractive it becomes to leave it. A mechanism that ensures continued Ameican hegemony, so long as our leadership doesn’t cuck out and abdicate our authority for zero reason or benefit.

>> No.16827908

>>16826090
Too much redpill for biz to handle

>> No.16827919

>>16827556
When gravity sets in and all the Eurodollars get sent back to America (within 5 years time) there will be a complete collapse of American society and the American gov

>> No.16827920

>>16827614
we don't need petrol, we use public transport and high speed trains lol. I dont see any SUV on the streets here. the only problem here is unemployment in the south and cold in the north of the old continent. ah wait and ageing population, japanization of the economy.

>> No.16827925

>>16827907

We're abdicating, but its definitely arguable whether abdication is to no benefit of the US. Every US rival at the moment is ironically contingent on US hegemony to keep the lights on. When we leave, they collapse - possibly spectacularly so.

>> No.16827950

>>16827809
This is not a suprise. Trump was pushed into office by russia to try and force a war between china and the US, meanwhile the US military is aiming for war with china in 2050 to be successful.

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>>16827877
>>16827883
There is no victory. we lost. please read first and second red pill! We have nothing we only had the petrodollar, now we lost that. We are a nation of farmers and bomb makers nothing else.

that is why every corner is a mcdonalds and cvs pharmacy and a gas stations. the real goods that you use in your homes, to build your homes etc all come from china...and that will stop! they have huge markets in asia and africa to sell stuff for resources! They do not need your dollars or your bombs! They will become instead lenders and you will become a 3rd world country in less than two decades...cities full of crime and immigrants and lawlessness. The world's energy and focus center will be ASIA. It has happened because we have no credible response as a super power!
You just have not realized it yet because the high IQ cronies of trump are inflating the stock market and selling the 'stock' like TESLA for example to retirement pension funds and portfolios and when the crash comes only the working class is left holding the bag like 2008.

After 2008 we had the petrodollar...after 2020 there is no petrodollar! Its over! The next will be the humiliating withdrawal from everywhere because we cannot defend anything!

All this will be over without any major war.. the 'apocalypse' is the revelation the US is an empty power now! No will to fight a real total war!

The days of fighting primitive tribes in the desert is over! 2020 USA was challenged to TOTAL WAR by a 4th rate shithole and SHE KEKED....because DRUMPF.

>> No.16827978

>>16827964
ok, jeet. regurgitating 2013 zerohedge headlines like its going out of style

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>>16827978
This time its real. Not a pajeet...have a very tiny keyboard at an airport. faggot!

>> No.16828047

>>16827964
If you can see this you should be able to see how they are planning to on-board the US into the new world economy. The petro-dollar was made to collapse yes, but if you buy up and secure the entire supply of say gold and bitcoin before it collapses it wont matter.

>> No.16828059

>>16828010
This isn't and has never been real. Petrodollar is a meme; if it were the basis for American power then countries would only buy as many dollars as they needed to cover their energy expenditures. Instead countries buy more, much more. I know why, but the petrodollar theory can't explain why these countries act so contrary to their interest.

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>>16828047
gold and bitcoin does not run the world. OIL does.

The chinese are not creative but they are extremely good copiers. They fully understand how the US built its army navy and airforce by getting free oil from Saudi Arabia..they are now free to do that and project power world wide.

Unlike the US, they will use credible force if they are threatened! It is over. The age of the petrodragon has begun and the ((((world news networks))))) are pretending it did not happen so the whole shitshow we call the petrodollar economy does not come crashing down overnight!

>> No.16828102

>>16828059
>petrodollar is a meme
https://www.thebalance.com/what-is-a-petrodollar-3306358

Faggot!

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>>16828083
It's too late for China to have a go at it.

>> No.16828120

>>16828102
You spent so much effort looking at the oil part of it, you missed the actual power: all international transactions are priced in dollars. This must be what being bluepilled is like, to come so close to the truth and just are incapable of grasping it.

>> No.16828166

>>16826020
>I remember when "the USA fights for oil". Now that the USA is a net exporter of oil, it's about "the petrodollar"

The whole point of the "US fighting for oil" is BECAUSE of the petrodollar. It's what forces all countries to use the US dollar and puts us on top. On the flipside, it's the reason why we're the dogs of Saudi Arabia. Remember the Travel Ban Trump deployed that suspiciously left off Saudi Arabia when they're the biggest cause of terrorists attacks? It's because they're the ones who agreed to partner with us for the Petrodollar. We gotta make them happy, even if they demand to use our military tech in Yemen to cause a genocide, like what happened in Obama's administration. This also means that any country that decides they're going to sell their oil for anything other than US dollars is a top level threat. Remember Libya, how we liberated the country and took down Ghaddafi? He was only a target because he wanted a new currency.

If anything to take away here, our status has pissed off a lot of countries and everyone is looking for a way to knock the US off its peg, and when it happens we're gonna crash HARD.

If you feel the US has no problem staying on top, sure keep your wealth in USD. If you're betting they won't survive essentially every other country of power researching on bringing its demise, you'll invest in crypto, because the technology is what will make this happen.

>> No.16828204

The number of typos in this fucking thread. Lmao

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>> No.16828224

>>16827556
Isn't it obvious that Trump doesn't want to act too harshly to prevent risking his reelection?

Second, saying the US is just another country with a gun is insanely naive. The US doesn't display its power ever. The tech produced and held by Area 51 is beyond anyone's wildest imagination. But my guess is it would never be employed to further a political agenda abroad. The utmost power of the US military is likely purely reserved for defense. Which I'm sure we will never see, because no country is stupid enough to attempt something like a raw takeover of the US. They're all equally aware of the US military might, including what's public knowledge as well as what may or may not exist behind closed doors.

>> No.16828241

Ok faggot tell us how this relates to BSV...

>> No.16828305

>>16827919
This unfortunately. And Trump is marketing it as muh strong dollar is coming back to US. Yet, it is a controlled demolition. Once it's all back, then entire 3rd world led by chinks pulls the detonation switch.

>> No.16828318

>>16827920
Ageing population, nice doublespeak for genocide.

>> No.16828330

>>16826271
cringed yourself after the second meme dood

>> No.16828350

>>16828083
You're mostly right. Not oil, but energy access in general drives economic growth. As long as oil is the cheapest form of energy however you are right, the world will revolve around it. Wether that paradigm will evolve in our lifetime is debatable, but we can't plan around that. However, we specifically have setup systems around obscuring that paradigm to allow for evolution and production outside of simple energy efficiency. Food is energy, water is energy, and when a human consumes those we historically have transfered that energy into mineral mining, using the minerals as a a system in which we store that humans energy. The cost of those minerals in the free market is whatever the cost of "energy" is for that human to mine more of the minerals. Anything you pay for those minerals over the cost of the energy inputs to produce more of the minerals is a profit, which can be used to buy goods and services beyond simply the energy needed to mine more. This holds true for oil as well. The dollar is a store of energy, your dollars are a claim on energy in the economy.

Now, lets look at bitcoin. Considering the blockchain is merely math, we could run a legible and secure blockchain using nothing but paper and pencil, albeit assuming human error would be caught and corrected. Of course this is not an efficient form of accounting when we have access to energy that is cheaper then the food and water required to make a human account the blockchain by hand. From that we can extrapolate bitcoin is a system of accounting that is based around energy inputs, the cost to transfer and mine bitcoin is only the cost of energy inputs needed to mine and transfer more bitcoin, it is a store of energy more or less. So yes, oil is undoubtedly the most important energy input in the modern economy of which most capital profit is produced from, but currency only accounts for energy storage. (1/2)

>> No.16828495

>>16828105
Pretty clicks into entire scheme, doesn't it. Those now 15-19yo chinese turbo incels will unleash their supreme gentleman's rage as the new world cops.
Fuck we really have 10-15 years tops before it all starts crashing.

>> No.16828507

>>16828120
https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/12/10/petroyuan-which-us-oil-companies-are-prepared.aspx

> For instance, Russia, which has overtaken Saudi Arabia as China's largest oil supplier, has extended its international trade with China in yuan. With over $100 billion in annual Chinese-Russian transactions, a July 2019 announcement declared that all future settlements between the two nations will be conducted without using the medium of the dollar. Their move to take that quantity of business off the SWIFT network, which last year facilitated about half of all large international fund transfers, is not insignificant, and it's likely to lead to more use of the yuan by nations seeking to avoid U.S. sanctions due to dealings with Iran and North Korea, for example, or to conduct other non-dollar-denominated business -- because the outlet for such trade now exists.

And once again, look at the travel ban, or the Saudi occupation of Yemen, and Libya I mentioned here,>>16828166, the petrodollar is a massive factor. Once there's a new network for countries to do trades in that doesn't involve the US dollar and it gains mass adoption, it's curtains for the US.

>> No.16828541

>>16828350
I was going to >nice blog faggot you, but that makes a lot of sense. Petrocurency (dollar) vs. Electrocurrency (bitcoin). Both are basically an incentive to harvest energy. Btc will moon when electricity overtakes oil. That's why the ripple jew is selling his bags.

>> No.16828553

>>16825872
Lmao the US navy can literally take on the entire world. The last time Iran blocked the strait, well it didn't go well for them.

>> No.16828624

>>16826292
Every country is dependent on the US including whatever poorfag cucked country you live in

>> No.16828663

>>16828350
So the thesis of that is basically that bitcoin is a valid form of energy storage, the question now is what does it offer that the dollar doesn't? Bitcoin is a global accounting system that can incorporate the inputs from all global currencies alike, this is a role that gold formerly filled but that bitcoin does better in a few ways, 1. Bitcoin is equally distributed based on all capital inputs, compared to gold which is limited largely by access to the physical resource. An empire can be competitive at any part of the globe as long as their return on energy spent is actually competitive compared to other areas of the globe that may be physically closer to actual resources. Gold has a skewed distribution considering the capital outputs are the same as the inputs, I.e. pay people gold to produce more gold. The second point is fairly similar but important to clarify, 2. Bitcoin is based on more efficent forms of accounting. Namely, as we pointed out bitcoin is entirely math, you can hash the blockchain by hand right? Thus it can actually scale with capital inputs, compared to gold which is inefficient considering you need "cumbersome" and non-scaling solutions to generate more. While solutions to mining gold may have peripheral outputs in the form of machinery and systems created around it, bitcoin disconnects these "cheesy" methods of enrichment by disconnecting the niche advancements from the claim on the goods. I.e. a better mining technology you create will pay out in a fair increase in your claim on goods, compared to if we still ran everything on gold and the physical reality of a better mining method would allow you to monopolize the entire supply because traditional methods could not keep up.

Sorry for the very convulted explanation, but this is a hard subject to conceptualize really. As it should be of course, if we are talking about changing the world economic system it is something we will have to acclimate to and become accustomed to.

>> No.16828722

>>16828541
Yes! It is all just return on energy invested, and bitcoin is a veryyy efficient form of return, everything about it is actually extremely efficient. That is one reason I actually believe the elites in the US are planning to escape into crypto as a lifeboat, and while scooping up all the bitcoin now is not a long term solution for the USA's problems once the petro-dollar fails, it will provide that lifeboat enough momentum at the top to stabilize and build our economy in this new paradigm.

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>>16828120
you lost that power faggot! The power to price international transactions is the power of the petrodollar which drumpf lost!

So many dumb burgers and pajeets in this thread!

>> No.16828777

>>16828350
>>16828663
>>16828722

BITCOIN is a mossad / CIA creation to finance sex trafficking, drug trafficking and all forms of unsavory activities around the world! It is toast because the petroyuan is not bitcoin! The currency that prices oil is king! Drumpf lost that power!

>> No.16828782

>>16825872
was never about the petrodollar it was about is real you stupid

>> No.16828806

>>16828782
ISREAL

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>>16828782
and ISREAL is all about money which they now have lost control of! So it is a good thing if you dont like jews!

USA cannot defend its borders with mexico, it cannot defend its bases in Iraq, it cannot defend saudi arabia and it wont defend ISREAL because Drumpf revealed to the world we are cucks!

>> No.16828840

>>16828819
they haven't lost control of shit you dumb fuck. Petrodollar is an excuse to not name the Jew. All wars the US has fought have been because of Isreal petro dollar is made up disinfo. Look at that Iraqi situation trump just threaned to take there FED account. Its not about money it's about helping Israel dominate the region to create a greater Israel
fuck kikes!

>> No.16828845

>>16828777
Checked, and you're right! However, they realized that the momentum behind bitcoin could be transformed. Who would say no to a global ledger based entirely on math and your only limit is how efficiently you can do that math? China even has the most miners! They produce huge amounts of computational power in their factories, if their method of governance and innovation is objectively correct then they should shine in this new world economy by producing enough computational power to dominate the accounting and generating the small spread on that profit. However, if America's method of governance is correct they should be able to dominate the accounting through simply ingenuity in their methods. They specifically crafted this to be a system that you cannot say "No" to, it is fair, global, and the paradigm is malleable enough to only be conducive to your power, not a hinderance. This is the plan, and china will not say no to it, they literally can't say no. Nobody will have a claim to oil, because everybody will transact in the currency that lays claim to oil.

>> No.16828848

>>16828819
they do onto want to defend the borders you moron Jews want more cheap labor and debt free slaves brought into the US to fund the Jewish machine

>> No.16828863

>>16828840
Drumpf does not know where his mouth begins or where his ass ends!

The age of Asia has begun! USA is a power no more! Israel is toast before 2020 ends. They will have to negotiate with IRAN to exist!

>> No.16828908

>>16825952
based and von braunpilled

>> No.16828948

>>16828863
He was placed into office specifically by chinas allies to inflame war with china. You are showing your hand, the prevailing thought in the current paradigm that even allows china some semblance of power is that we need to plan and maneuver around the battlefields of the future. The US in particular is maneuvering and playing around the artic circle right now, the amount of oil and rich minerals contained within the land is immense and we understand the political power that can be wielded from dominating the region will carry us another 30 years. We wish china to continue believing global warming is a myth because we can then plan around the future they refuse to realize, they are trying to dominate a future of an increasingly depleting oil base where as we are planning around the expanded fields of the future in the artic. China is being played from all directions, they are going full steam ahead into a false vision of the future, they will dominate the remains of an already raided middle eastern oil fields meanwhile we are currently at this very moment dominating the nordic governments for their access to oil rich fields in their currently melting norther lands.

>> No.16829041

>>16825872
OP has trump derangement syndrome, but I’ll let him have his larp.
The USD will loose its global reserve status at some point, much like the British Sterling did, but for that to happen there needs to be a legitimate contender and there are none that are even close right now.
Yuan, please....just no.
Euro, no way. They’re going to have to monetize the debt of half of the failing EU countries just to keep the whole thing together.
OP will be correct at some point, but I give it a minimum of 10 years.

>> No.16829261

>>16826292
uh yeah thats a pretty good strat to stay in power

>> No.16829331

>>16828948
>He was placed into office specifically by chinas allies to inflame war with china
Interesting thought. What do you think of Andrew Yang? His policies regarding the 4th industrial revolution make a lot of sense

>> No.16829356

there are like two or three anons in this thread with an actual brain. The rest are shills running some stupid psyop

>> No.16829462

>>16829331
I haven't heard anything about him, I dont know if he has a role in the future or not.

>> No.16829569

>>16828350
>Now, lets look at bitcoin. Considering the blockchain is merely math, we could run a legible and secure blockchain using nothing but paper and pencil, albeit assuming human error would be caught and corrected.

Dude, going by pencil and paper defeats the purpose of the reliability of the blockchain. It may sort of retain its trustless feature by having people check over the math, but people aren't reliable for this form of accounting, it requires too many processing minds to verify. On that basis, it'll lose its critical trustless feature.

And I disagree with your notion that the bitcoin is a valid form of energy storage. That's like saying humans are a storage of food and nutrition. We require nutritious food to run, but we can't access it to use it for other needs, unless you want to play the game of cannibalism. Same with bitcoin, it requires energy, but you can't retrieve the energy for other energy needs.

But for your next point, I assume your point is on the accessibility of the bitcoin. It'd be more apt to focus on it being borderless and permissionless (i.e. no region is restricted from joining the network and you don't need someone to authorize any account for you to create a wallet), as this is what lends to the ease and variety of capital inputs (I assume you mean exchanges offering so many different pairings) in contrast to the US dollar that dominates the banking system and restricts even combinations depending on if the country has been sanctioned or not.

I suppose I either don't fully understand your comparisons or I don't fully agree with them.

>> No.16829580

>>16829041
This

No one trusts the Chinese. The idea that Yuan will become the reserve currency is laughable. There is atleast the illusion of an indepdent Fed. China prints and manipulates currency at the party's will and benifit which the world will not trust. I've also heard the "Gold backed Yuan" argument which again goes back to credibility. Who will trust the Chinese to actually convert.

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>>16829580
>>16829041
Jews I would be seriously worried about your state's existence before this end of 2020!

Israel days are numbered. Total war has been challenged and USA and Israel jointly cucked out! There is no backing out of this!

Total war or lose all credibility. And the US has lost all military credibility! Everything is lost!

The great biblical revelation has come to pass! USA is no longer a power! Israel is no longer a power!

If you want to exist you will have to negotiate with IRAN unless you respond with TOTAL WAR! There is no other way out. The mullahs checkmated ziondon and the high IQ of our closest ally!

US cannot defend its base, it cannot defend saudi arabia, it cannot defend ISRAEL! Burgers cannot defend anything without losing everything! GAME OVER! pack your shit and head home....

>> No.16829915

>>16828777
>BITCOIN is a mossad / CIA creation to finance sex trafficking, drug trafficking and all forms of unsavory activities around the world!

I highly doubt when the bitcoin was created in response to the 2008 financial crisis. Illegal activities would be the first to adopt financial innovations.

>> No.16829921

>>16827410
>paper tiger
Ok china man, Go eat a dog

>> No.16829947

>>16827964
>we
You dumb CHYNAMAN

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>>16829921
you are going to be eating dogs pretty soon! Burgers lost everything because the petrodollar is the only thing that powers the economy. Why do you think the US has a such a massive military budget. To protect the petrodollar and now Drumpf has cucked out and revealed we are no power! You cannot even project power against Iran what will you do against Iran! the power move by trump should have been backed up with force! The chinese will soon be living of american food imports for which they will pay pittance! you will become like any 3rd world food exporter burger!

>> No.16829978

>>16829963
>HAHA I EAT DOG NOW BUT U ET DOG IN 20 YR MAYBEEEEEEEEEE
okay SQuint eyed fuck, go eat your dog

>> No.16829992

>>16829978
single digit low iq response! If you are a kike you have no state before 2020 ends!

>> No.16830025

>>16826193
Yeah I can’t believe this is an entire thread of retards believing the entire US economy is benefiting from this

>> No.16830026

>>16829901
how is everything lost?
because trump didn't attack back after getting bombed?

>> No.16830044

oh I get it now didn't Iraq want the troops out and USA threatened to close their fed account kek

>> No.16830058

>>16829041
It should be gold and the US economy has suffered greatly from being the world’s reserve. The current system was designed by a man who was CAUGHT as a Soviet spy trying to destabilise the USA. Tards in this thread need to stop being tards shilling this GitD petrodollar shit.

>> No.16830080

>>16825872
lowest IQ post on biz. congratulations

>> No.16830094

Just a reminder that Stalin, Lenin and other jews created the USSR which created modern day sweden, the EU and China as we know them now

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>>16830026
>>16830026
Read the first and second red bill in the beginning of this thread and google petrodollar and read some more!

The burger way of life depends on the middle east selling oil in dollars or face bombs or sanctions!


Drumpf cucked out...which means no force behind sanctions which means no sanctions which means no petrodollar! Everything is lost because the power of the USA is its will to destroy any country that sold oil in anything but dollars. that age has gone! USA cannot wage war against any real country! only fight rag heads in Afghanistan! When faced with a real power you did not even respond! Why? Because the burger army will lose everything if it tries to defend just that one base.

You are staying in Iraq because your are the alpha. The alpha got bombed the shit out of by a pack of mullahs who are supposedly a 4th rate sanctioned shithole economy! Total war was declared and you backed out!

The world is laughing at burgers right now! you literally are the niggers of geopolitics!

hold me back or ill.....hold me back or ill....no one is holding trump back. He held himself back because the USA is a spent force. Cannot fight a real country with a real army. We lost all power projection ....outdated army, airforce and navy! We are living in the 90s and the Iranians have high tech low cost precision missiles that will rain down like hell fire destroying all US bases, Israel and Saudi Arabia if any war is declared! The US military cannot suffer such losses so it cucked out!

For the world to see...you are no longer alpha, you got challenged and you backed out...so your days in the middle east are numbered unless you respond by carpet bombing Iran and destroying its missile capabilities! never gonna happen....so what is the point of your army's presence if it cannot provide security?

>> No.16830122

>>16825887
if killary didn't get involved we would've had the golden dinar gaddafi wanted

>> No.16830155

>>16829963
The swine flu in China dictates the Chinese will be eating more dogs than they already do. Why are the Chinese so salty about the fact they will not overcome the US because they have zero credibility or trust?

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>>16830155
USA got its military credibility REKT! Faggot

>> No.16830187

>>16829569
You're right, it would require too many minds. It's easier to just utilize partial trust systems then run a blockchain by human mind alone. The point is less that it would be slow if we did it by hand however, and more that the fact its *possible* to run the system offline so to speak, its scalable in short. It doesn't defeat the purpose, it actually showcases its strength. If one of your citizens can compute the entire blockchain in their head that is an invaluable return on energy.

Bitcoin is a store of energy in the sense that it's a claim on energy in the system. As I mentioned, if the cost to produce oil skyrockets 10,000% tommorow your claim on energy in the system will be overall less, but as a % of energy in the systen your claim will be constant. 10 dollars total divided by 10 barrels total means 1 dollar claims 1 barrel, if we lose 5 barrels, e.g. production cuts, each dollar claims 0.5 barrels. Wether you disagree or not, that is how monetary systems work. The basis of money is a claim on goods and services, that is an irrefutable economic fact. You can't turn USD into energy, you can only claim it at a fair rate.

Humans are a store of energy if they produce more energy then they consume. We specifically leave this definition open ended because energy and the concept of storing energy can mean multiple things in a system.

And yes you're right, that argument was partially based off the permissionless aspects of bitcoin. More important though was the argument that it is scalable, and is an error free ledger system. If the entire point of money is to ledger an exchange of energy for goods and services, then having one which has energy as the only input really is extremely valuable. And by capital inputs I mean raw goods that produce monetary value. Cobalt, oil, uranium, electricity, all capital inputs.

>> No.16830300

>>16825914
You must be on that Chinese fentanyl. Everybody and their mother right now wants the yuan. Chyna is the fastest growing economy in the world.

>> No.16830316

>>16825929
>laughs in opioid crisis

>> No.16830402

>>>/pol/

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>>16830402
The future of world petrodollar geopolitics is now politically incorrect?

>> No.16830568

>>16826055
>strongest navy
>literally crashing into shrimp boats

>> No.16830593

>>16830300
>is
was

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>>16830300
>Yuan
>Worth anything
Your China #1 shit reeks of desperation.

>> No.16830636

>>16825929
How and with what tools are these measures calibrated?

>> No.16830655

>>16830493
You never addressed my response here.
>>16828948

If you believe the petrodollar to be dead why is the US positioning itself to be the sole superpower over artic natural resources? You will see documents in 30 years proving what is happening right now, namely norway, sweden, and finland's governments being purposely collapsed by US agencies in order to install puppet governments, exactly like happened to south america. China is winning the war of yesterday, not tommorow.

>> No.16830667

>>16828948
This faggot knows
What Trump did right was attempt to buy Greenland.

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>>16830608
It has nothing to do with China...It can be togoland ...New rules of the game. Who ever sells the most goods..prices oil in that currency! The age of muhhhhh loook at muhhh big aircraft carriers is over!

We lost the game! We were called to total war and we backed out! China is now the world's manufacturing hub and sells the most goods and has an army with credible deterrence just like the USA...you are equal now! get it!

If you are the sheriff in town and you back away from a low life street thug with no (nuclear) gun then you have no business being sheriff? what part of this simple logic dont you understand burger?

You are a cop? You got shot in the face....and you ran. Burgers and jews lost everything over the last couple of weeks! 2020 is going to be wild wild wild!

>> No.16831053

>>16830187
>And yes you're right, that argument was partially based off the permissionless aspects of bitcoin. More important though was the argument that it is scalable, and is an error free ledger system. If the entire point of money is to ledger an exchange of energy for goods and services, then having one which has energy as the only input really is extremely valuable. And by capital inputs I mean raw goods that produce monetary value. Cobalt, oil, uranium, electricity, all capital inputs.

Okay, that makes more sense if you're saying the only required commodity needed to maintain the bitcoin network is energy.

>>16830187
>Bitcoin is a store of energy in the sense that it's a claim on energy in the system. As I mentioned, if the cost to produce oil skyrockets 10,000% tommorow your claim on energy in the system will be overall less, but as a % of energy in the systen your claim will be constant. 10 dollars total divided by 10 barrels total means 1 dollar claims 1 barrel, if we lose 5 barrels, e.g. production cuts, each dollar claims 0.5 barrels. Whether you disagree or not, that is how monetary systems work. The basis of money is a claim on goods and services, that is an irrefutable economic fact. You can't turn USD into energy, you can only claim it at a fair rate.

Now can you spoonfeed me again on how this relates to the bitcoin? Or rather, if I understand you, you're saying if the cost of electricity goes up, it'll be reflected in the price of bitcoin? On that basis you're saying the bitcoin is a store of energy as the cost of electricity needed to run the network is priced in?

>> No.16831508

>>16831053
Yup, exactly. I keep the definition of energy open ended however, because as I said even if it is not very efficient we can run the system on "food and water", I.e. brainpower, if necessary. Energy is the only input.

How being a claim on energy relates back to bitcoin being a store of energy is multi-fold. You're right on both accounts, if the price of electricity goes up so will bitcoin, and the price of electricity is already priced into bitcoin. That's not an intrinsically special property of bitcoin though, gold has that same property, as does the dollar. What sets bitcoin apart is its direct input, energy being the only primary input, and also its efficiency in executing all monetary needs. Especially once block rewards stop and the system is compromised entirely of miners taking their fee for transferring the money, the cost of electricity to run the system will set the basis for the value of all bitcoin in existence. This is why it will dominate the reserve currency status in international energy trade, those countries who can turn a profit by mining will be buying energy from energy producers to make their own profit mining, and others will simply transact that stored value.

>> No.16831562

>>16825872
You’re a fucking idiot, this plan is centuries years old, trump is a roth plant and the petrodollar isnt going anywhere
>trump cucked out on iran1!!1
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