Living forever

[Anonymous No.16486594]

Do you plan on living forever /biz/? How much money do you think you'll need to stop/reverse your age?

[Anonymous No.16486604]

>>16486594
if the tech were easy or cheap enough to reproduce we would've stumbled upon it already
whatever form immortality takes will be a service-based jewish scheme that will inevitably see most people perish over time
abandon all hope all those born into this world

[Anonymous No.16486619]

>living forever
>on this gay earth
you'sa kike n shiet, nigga

[Anonymous No.16486637]

This is one of the reasons why I feel I NEED to become a millionaire. If I don't I think I will find at age 60 millionaires and billionaires will be buying immortality potions and replacing their organs / extremities with robotic ones, becoming ubermenchs while the rest of us is let to serve as traps, minimum wage workers or just plain servants. Maybe they'll get rid of us.

[Anonymous No.16486638]

Also, which one is the most realistic in terms of time and money?
>freezing your body
>uploading your brain into a robot
>gene editing
>cell repair and maintenance using drugs/nanoviruses

[Anonymous No.16486659]

>>16486637
I also think this is the next "evolution" of the human race. Just like the bourgeois replaced the old feudal system, a new group of people (the millionaires or billionaires with connections) will trascend the capitalist system. Most of us will die (90%+), only a tiny selected elite will survive the cataclysm that will come (resource scarcity, nuclear war etc). It will be the last step in human evolution. This is actually a bittersweet ending. The few that will surive will live as ubermenschs for ever in an utopic world, but at the cost of millions dying.

[Anonymous No.16486713]

>>16486637
This. I want to see the future.

[Anonymous No.16486726]

>>16486594
>live forever
I haven't started living at all yet

[Anonymous No.16486734]

>>16486638
As a last resort, cryo freezing is only like 10-20k and exists right now.

[Anonymous No.16486742]

>>16486734
Robots are probably the best option because of replaceable parts, and you can be an anime girl.

[Anonymous No.16486809]

Impossible. Humans are going extinct due to climate change this century.

[Anonymous No.16486840]

>>16486619
>staying on this gay earth
>not ascending to the stars
>not subjugating the stars to power your immense cyborg mind
Fuckin plebs I swear

[Anonymous No.16486915]

>>16486594
I really want to be true, but after reading some wikipedia articles about the different potential methods and our current progress today, I've given up hope that it'll happen within my lifetime.

[Anonymous No.16486921]

>>16486638
Repair and maintenance is the realistic one for the near future, and is making slow but steady progress. Pic related is the current state of research.

[Anonymous No.16486928]

>>16486921

[Anonymous No.16486934]

99 safeX

[Anonymous No.16486989]

>>16486659
>but at the cost of millions dying.

Billions dying if your scenario plays out. In this time line, the system collapses and by 2200, 500 years of tech will be lost and steam punk will be born

[Anonymous No.16487940]

>>16486594
>>16486638
>>16486659
>>16486734
>>16486921

Mind Uploading is the key to Yrue Immortality.

>Silicon Valley billionaire, 32, pays $10,000 to be KILLED so the contents of his brain can be digitally uploaded and preserved forever

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5503045/amp/Tech-billionaire-pays-10K-die-brain-uploaded-online.html


>Russian billionaire reveals real-life 'avatar' plan - and says he will upload his brain to a hologram and become immortal by 2045

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2322703/amp/Want-live-forever-Russian-billionaire-reveals-real-life-avatar-plan--says-upload-brain-hologram-immortal-2045.html


>The rich will become ‘God-like cyborgs’: Historian claims the wealthy will transform into a new type of human within 200 years

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3096393/amp/The-rich-God-like-cyborgs-Historian-claims-wealthy-transform-new-type-human-200-years.html

[Anonymous No.16488046]

>>16487940

imagine thinking a "copy of your personality" in an artificial brain is the same thing as your own consciousness.

[Anonymous No.16488416]

>>16488046
The tech has to start somewhere.

[Anonymous No.16488428]

>>16487940
>theseus' ship
Organ transplantation is still cutting edge science, and I work in that very specific medical specialty. Unless there is some secret technology that they don't tell us about, even the most basic aspects of 'brain transplantation' are far beyond our current abilities.

Fun fact: I have had at least a dozen basketball-american families earnestly ask me why we can't simply transplant their loved one's brain into another body.

[Anonymous No.16488432]

>>16488428
The first time, I was visibly baffled. I could hear the cogs turning in my head, "how can this adult human be so fucking dumb?" I wondered. After the third or fourth time, I had practiced my answer that "unfortunately medicine hasn't gotten there yet, I am sorry for your loss."

[Anonymous No.16488435]

>>16488428
The cia had that shit figured out in the 1960s....

[Anonymous No.16488459]

>>16488435
I simply don't think it is possible. While cellular metabolism can be slowed down by the usual protocols of rapid cooling etc and grafting vessels is relatively simple, attaching a brain to a body is not. I sure hope that the CIA shares this technology soon.

[Anonymous No.16488478]

Everyone in this thread should at least be taking NMN, rapamycin, metformin/berberine, a decent multi with extra vitamin D and K2, and be practicing calorie restriction or intermitent fasting. If you aren't, you're not taking you immortality seriously. These won't make you live forever but they'll tack on an extra decade or two which might make all the difference in living to see true immortech emerge.

The only thing worse than dying would be dying literally the day before they cure death. Don't be that guy, anon. Take care of your health and be proactive in slowing aging as best you can.

[Anonymous No.16488485]

>>16488459
jesus christ anon we don't need people like soros living forever

[Anonymous No.16488493]

>>16488478
The only thing that isn't a meme here is IF. Any kind of oral multivitamin is a waste, you cannot absorb any meaningful amount. Anybody who disagrees has either not gone to medical school or is getting paid off.

[Anonymous No.16488537]

>>16486638
George Church
Aubrey de Grey
David Sinclair

Follows these bros as they are the forerunners in life extension and age reversal. Based Church believes we are twenty years away

[Anonymous No.16488564]

>>16488493
What about liquid vitamin b12 sublingual

[Anonymous No.16488571]

>>16488478
>no mention of lifting or cardio
enjoy your early grave

[Anonymous No.16488584]

>>16488428
Do you think we pass Longevity Escape Velocity in the next 50 years?

[Anonymous No.16488592]

>>16488493
wut about with food tho

[Anonymous No.16488603]

>>16488564
Unless you're anemic, it is simply not going to make a tangible difference in your long term health.

>>16488571
based

>>16488584
It is hard to say, I have the opportunity to see new medical technology due to the unique nature of my field, e.g. ex vivo lung perfusion, but I haven't seen anything that would suggest we will. 50 years is a long time though, especially in medicine, another world war might help speed up progress.

>>16488592
If you have a proper diet, your food intake should provide you with sufficient nutritional value.

[Anonymous No.16488613]

>>16486594

no fuck that.

[Anonymous No.16488811]

>>16486594
desperate cope. Humans are meant to die, otherwise there will be no need to do anything other than eat and shit.

[Anonymous No.16488831]

>>16488603
>>16488571
what's proper diet and excercise routine fit fags? I'm poor so gym is not an option

[Anonymous No.16488854]

>>16486594
living forever negates the necessity to keep living. immortality is a paradox and a torture. dont fall for it.

[Anonymous No.16488883]

>>16486594
Low IQ goal. You'll find out eventually you'e made the biggest mistake thinkable. Death is not the end, it is relief.

Only thing even dumber and nightmarish is loading your conscience into a computer.

[Anonymous No.16488949]

>>16486594
it's simply not how life works.
that, and imagine your digital brain being transferred/copied and put in 'hell'.

[Anonymous No.16489213]

>>16488831

walk/jog a 2-5 miles every other day. get some cheap free weights 2nd hand, look up some guides on 1 hour home workouts. use them on the days you're not walking/jogging. get a pull up bar if you can, just hang on it at first if you can't do a real pull up. eventually do 1, then 2, etc. watch what you eat but really watch portions. throw out your dishes/bowls and get smaller ones. maybe try intermittent fasting. fitness/health isn't expensive, it's just about willpower.

[Anonymous No.16489344]

>>16486594
>Do you plan on living forever
Yes, Uther.

[Anonymous No.16489730]

>>16488854
I don’t want to live forever just more than 80 odd years half of which are in a shitty body

500 years without aging sounds good

[Anonymous No.16489862]

>>16488478
>practicing calorie restriction
>weight 80 kg
>pratice calorie restriction
>weigh 75 kg
>keep practicing calorie restriction
>weight 65kg
>keep with caloric restriction.
What do you do when you're on the verge of dying? You can't practice calorie restriction for ever.

[Anonymous No.16489903]

>>16487940
Avatard.

[Anonymous No.16489909]

>>16486594
Only kikes want to live forever because they are afraid of God. Change my mind!

[Anonymous No.16489911]

>>16486594
With my FRM gains I should be able to clone myself in 2022.

[Anonymous No.16489919]

>>16486594
God no. Why the fuck would I want to stay in this shit world any more than necessary?

[Anonymous No.16489926]

>>16489862
>not replenishing calories in between

Damn, you’re a nano brainlet.

[Anonymous No.16489993]

>>16489926
>replenishing calories in between
this means you gain fat
and fat = lower lifespan
so it's actually +1 + -1 = 0
basically, caloric restriction doesn't serve any purpose

[Anonymous No.16489998]

>>16489909
the after life isn't real. There is nothing in death.
religion is a lie and a massive brainwashing cope.
no hell or heaven.
you know this is true but refuse to admit it to yourself because of how much you have internalized religion to your identity.

[Anonymous No.16490010]

>>16489919
there is no necessary minimum time.
you can die right now

[Anonymous No.16490024]

>>16489993
Goddamn the retard is strong in you.

[Anonymous No.16490050]

>>16490024
You have 18% body fat.
>practice caloric restriction
Now you have 17% body fat.
Wow, I don't want to die, so I'll replenish calories.
>become 18% body fat again
>the 1% body fat lowers your lifespan as it has been proven by science.
>keep repeting ad nauseam
basically, you're lowering your lifespan by doing this, better stay at 18%
1 - 1 = 0
or in this case -1

[Anonymous No.16490105]

>>16488046
there were some black mirror episodes which portrayed well the absolute hell of that reality.

[Anonymous No.16490112]

>>16486594
>Do you plan on living forever /biz/?
You have to be 18 to post here

[Anonymous No.16490121]

>>16489998
Have a look into Fibonacci/golden ratio, every living thing is encoded with the same ratio. Also check out some NDEs (near death experiences)

[Anonymous No.16490132]

>>16486594
1M UPT will do for my new UToPian society.

[Anonymous No.16490166]

>>16490121
>Have a look into Fibonacci/golden ratio, every living thing is encoded with the same ratio.

doesn't prove or suggest anything, I don't know why the mathematical laws of physics suggest religion to you.

>>16490121
>Also check out some NDEs (near death experiences)
people have dreams all the time, doesn't mean they are real. A NDE is just a that, a dream.

[Anonymous No.16490176]

>>16490166
>I don't know why the mathematical laws of physics suggest religion to you.

Centralised order of creation.

[Anonymous No.16490196]

>>16490176
just because our universe has orderly rules it follows does not metaphysically suggest a designer or creator.

[Anonymous No.16490199]

>>16486734
>freeze yourself
>200 years later get unfrozen to be enslaved, abused and raped regularly.
>first thing they do is modify your brain so you won’t ever kill yourself
>second thing they do is modify your genes so you don’t age
>now living the worst possible existence for eternity

You’ll want to see what’s coming, freezing yourself is not a smart move.

[Anonymous No.16490209]

>>16490166
>religion
its not religion, just creation
>>16490166
Just go have a look, they are all saying the same thing. If you see what Dr. Mac did with the alien abductees, he concluded that, as they were seeing the same thing & not connected, it was most likely a real event.
The best ones are the former atheists.

Energy can not be created or destroyed, just simply turned into another form.

[Anonymous No.16490239]

>>16490209
>he concluded that, as they were seeing the same thing & not connected, it was most likely a real event.

There is such a thing as arch-typical hallucinations based on the culture and memes of society that the subject resides in. in other words, if everyone understands aliens to be little green men, then everyone who trips on lsd will see little green men as that meme is in their subconscious, same with religious experiences, that's why people from different cultures have such radically different NDEs, they are interpreting their hallucinations in accordance with their cultures beliefs.

[Anonymous No.16490311]

>>16490239
>then everyone who trips on lsd will see little green men
You've never done LSD have you. its different for everyone. Try DMT, have a read of the book 'the sprit molecule' by Dr. Rick Strassman. He speaks about DMT, which, yes is realised while sleeping triggering dreams.

Theres only one way to 100% find out if there is afterlife, die. So one day you will know if you or I was right.

[Anonymous No.16490409]

>>16486840
ikr? the lack of imagination and vision in this thread is disappointing.

[Anonymous No.16490639]

[Anonymous No.16491110]

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Jesus is God Accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior and you will be saved

Anyone who accepts Jesus as your Lord and SAVIOR SHALL HAVE ETERNAL LIFE
HEAVEN IS REAL HEAVEN IS A GLORIOUS AMAZING PLACE
When I DIE ILL GO TO HEAVEN
JESUS I LOVE YOU AND I LOVE EVERYONE HERE
AMEN

[Anonymous No.16491168]

>>16486594
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.

[Anonymous No.16491215]

>>16486594
John 10:27-29
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

Friendly reminder to all /biz/ that eternal life is a free gift of God that we can choose to accept through our faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. Salvation is not in some man made technology. Watch the gospel video below if you want to hear the good news, and accept the free gift of eternal life.

https://youtu.be/BXMA4xOS5BY

[Anonymous No.16491223]

>>16491110
Amen Jesus is lord and savior

[Anonymous No.16491267]

Thread is full of retarded religious schizophrenic boomers. Why don't you just die already and go meet your creator?

[Anonymous No.16491275]

>>16491267

[Anonymous No.16491340]

>>16486594
Of course
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdCB9yE9Hcc

[Anonymous No.16491363]

>>16487940
Imagine if your brain doesn't become destroyed in the uploading process. Who are you then, the guy that went into the room and got his brain uploaded or the person in the computer? what if you did it a thousand times, would there be a thousand "you's"..

Uploading your brain is a meme, it will be a copy of you, like if you cloned yourself. It is not you that get to live on.

[Anonymous No.16491388]

>>16486638
>>16486734
Until they actually can freeze and thaw up a rodent or something, then cryogenics is retarded, and should only be considered if you are terminal ill etc.

[Anonymous No.16491435]

>>16491168
This should be posted all over the internet

[Anonymous No.16491437]

>>16491435
>>16491168
>>16491215
>>16491223
schizos
>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.16491444]

>>16491363
Reminds me of this weird cartoon I saw as a kid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUXKUcsvhQc

[Anonymous No.16491449]

>>16486594
No, death is a sweet release.

[Anonymous No.16491456]

>>16487940
The worst part of all this isn't even that these people literally died while a computer pointlessly moves bits around, it's that some billionaire faggot will get hoodwinked into something like this and eventually a computer program without sentience but made to mimic Jeff Bezos' brain will manipulate the stock market to become uber rich because that's all it understands. Imagine how tragic if our future wealth is hoarded by tiny algorithms with no subjective consciousness just playing out instruction sets while the billionaires who made them rot.
Here's how dumb your idea is, imagine a computer instruction set that is finitely bounded, call it X, the instruction set/bits are arranged in the exact pattern as your consciousness before death, do you really believe that when you die as long as the creation of each bit coincides with the termination of one neuron you somehow don't die? The implication is, given that the data set is finite, were you to have your head blown off, but a computer randomly created that instruction set, your consciousness would somehow resume.
Consciousness is clearly intrinsically tied to matter AND pattern.

[Anonymous No.16491480]

semi-related question.
Why do we age? i know the mechanics e.g. telomeres shortening etc.
But what is the evolutionary purpose of ageing? There are animals like the humpback whale that can live for hundreds of years.. so clearly lifespan is something that can be selected for in natural selection.
But why is it not always a beneficial mutation to live longer? you stay fit longer, stay on your prime longer and can have more offspring.

If you imagine a male lion on the savanna, who happen to have a mutation that increase his lifespan, why would this mutation not be selected for? the odds of him staying as the Alpha male in a pack will increase, as he is fit for more years and can easier defend his territory in those extra years, which in turn will lead to more offspring, whom will also be potential carrier of the mutation.

It is difficult to imagine a scenario where increased lifespan would not be evolutionary beneficial (at least in terms of natural selection, it may be bad for the species as a whole).

[Anonymous No.16491505]

>>16491456
This. Worst case I can imagine is something like that becoming popular. Then the world gets overrun by things that act human but actually lack consciousness. There's no way to prove whether someone has consciousness right now, but people would be fooled if the imitation is good enough.

[Anonymous No.16491514]

>>16491480
>But what is the evolutionary purpose of ageing?

Google it

I read it somewhere once but forgot, it has something to do with reaching mating age and then no longer mattering after words.

[Anonymous No.16491517]

>>16491505
if something is faked to the fullest extent it can be, it becomes real.

[Anonymous No.16491527]

>>16491517
Maybe, but at this point we can't verify if consciousness is faked to the fullest extent.

[Anonymous No.16491529]

>>16491456
not if the computer is actually billions of artificial neurons that replace your organic neurons one at a time for a gradual and seamless transition... You can't understand a thing you're trying to reject. Just roll with it and entertain the hypothetical.

[Anonymous No.16491542]

ITT people forgetting that what kill people is not age itself but cancer

[Anonymous No.16491562]

>>16491514
i have googled it, and there is various explanations e.g. a trade off where genes that allow for fast maturation also cause decreased lifespan. But i don't think this is a good explanation, and i don't think any of the other explanations given are good either.
I once read a study about fruit-flies where they breed them to live longer (essentially had a bunch of the flies, removed all the eggs so no new flies came about, once the population had dwindled a lot and only a fraction was left, they let the eggs laid mature, rinse and repeat the process until the life-span of the fruit flies had increased by 25%). As i recall it, they noted no difference in fertility rate or maturation in these long-living fruit flies generation.

[Anonymous No.16491639]

I am already immortal. I have ascended. My linkies are now fused to my very soul. If I sell, I die. Once my physical shell expires, I will continue to live through the blockchain.

[Anonymous No.16491885]

>>16489993
what you're describing is essentially intermittent fasting which confers the same benefits as steady-state CR.

The point of both of them is to put your body into maintenance mode. It upregulates autophagic process, clears out junk in your cells and kills off senescent cells. I would call it detoxing if 'detox' as a word weren't so thoroughly coopted by woo woo piss-drinkers and fruitarian faggots.

>fat=lower lifespan

fuck you're retarded, some amount of body fat is required for optimal health.

>>16488571
good sleep diet and exercise are so basic I didn't even think to mention them. Those are things you should be doing regardless whether you're gunning for immortality or not.

[Anonymous No.16491894]

>>16491517
>t. retard
This is so fucking dumb I can't even express it in words. A dog can be fooled into believing another dog exists by putting a recording of a dog barking in a room. Just because it can fool us that it is sentient doesn't mean it is.

[Anonymous No.16491912]

>>16486594
>Living forever
sure, I love being lonely, life is about suffering anyway, right, r-right, haha ha

[Anonymous No.16491915]

>>16491529
Again, you don't understand basic physics, just because it's gradual doesn't mean it's transferring your consciousness. One is being destroyed and the other created, lets entertain this thought though. Let us imagine a CPU running 10^100 instructions per cycle, perfectly simulates your consciousness. You destroy your brain one neuron at a time while the CPU 'actives' one digital neuron at a time. If your consciousness was transferred in this way, then it could just as easily be transferred by destroying your whole brain and then turning on the artifical neurons. Your arguing that consciousness is just a pattern, which paradoxically means we all have immortal metaphysical souls and anyone can be resurrected just by running an instruction set that perfectly matches their last conscious thought. The whole thing is retarded to anyone who has studied physics.

[Anonymous No.16491945]

>>16491915
This is surprisingly introspective and learned for /biz/.

[Anonymous No.16492060]

>>16491456
>>16491915
so you are anti-gradual-transition because you conflate as being really the same thing as copy-and-destroy, but aren't human brains already replacing cells, neurons, etc gradually over time? If we retain a steady conscious stream and coherent sense of self over the course of years even as parts of our brain are replacing themselves with new parts, then why wouldn't it work to just start inserting immortal silicon neurons in their stead at a certain point? So long as the function of each synthetic cell/neuron part were 1:1 with its biological counterpart, aside from being immortal.

It seems to me like the successful proof-of-concept for gradual brain replacement is already there, going on inside my skull every day.

[Anonymous No.16492083]

>>16487940
Unlike most of you morons I am capable of critical thought and have come to the following conclusion. Behold the one truth.

Everything other than the brain are irrelevant and can be replaced without it resulting in a loss of "you". There are already heart/lung machines and whatnot, and if given enough money you could probably keep a brain alive without any other organs either with machines or by taking what it needs from live donors, regardless of morality.

Any shape, way and or form of "immortality" other than organic cell repair and maintenance is the same as you dying.
>Uploading
Would not be "you", would be a copy of you at best, meaning the you reading this would still die. So even though there might be something "practically you" it's not you, you will die.
>Freezing
Does nothing, all it would do is perhaps make it possible for someone in the future to solve the issue and provide you with immortality through organic cell repair/maintenance.
>gene editing
Might do it, would most likely not solve the eventual mutation leading to cancer(fun fact, many people in their 80s/90s have cancer, it is just that treating it isn't worth it because they will die from other causes before the cancer kills them).

The one and only way to achieve immortality is through organic repair/maintenance. You would still die if your brain gets obliterated..

Pretty much you need to solve cancer & stop brain cells from dying off/replace the ones that die. Eventually you might have replaced the entire brain but I theorise that what makes "you" isn't the cells themselves but the electrical/chemical connection between them as a whole, which should be kept even though all cells might be replaced eventually, as long as it is slow and gradual enough.
This is the one and only truth about immortality.

[Anonymous No.16492125]

>>16492060
the problem with replacing organic matter that we know "works" with "immortal silicon" is that we have no way of knowing if the immortal silicon results in a loss of "you", and there is no way to find out: the resulting conscience of this procedure might claim to be "you" but there is no way to verify this.
Replacing it with the same organic matter would not result in this distinction as it is already happening(or at least until somewhere in your early twenties, which is when the brain goes into slowly dying mode). The organic matter would result a guarantee of it being "you" as long as it's slow and gradual enough, the silicon has no such guarantee and we have no way of finding out.

[Anonymous No.16492139]

>>16486594
>Do you plan on living forever /biz/?

Why would you want to do that?

[Anonymous No.16492235]

>>16491444
The philosophical part of that is cool, but the moral lesson she walks away with at the end is fucked lmao

[Anonymous No.16492301]

>>16486638
uploading your brain wouldnt be you it would be a copy of you, like having a twin brother. the highest chance of immortality is a brain transplant into another body and crispr made stem cells

[Anonymous No.16492362]

>>16490121
>Have a look into Fibonacci/golden ratio,
imagine citing the most reddit, shoehorned pop-sci factoid of muh intelligent design as proof for religion
did you know you have 10 fingers? and that you can turn 10 years old and that 10% of the population reach 100 (10*10) years old? wow amazing!!!

[Anonymous No.16492576]

vitalik does, that's why he donated to the sens foundation in 2018
eth $1000 eoy

[Anonymous No.16492653]

>>16492060
Neurons don't get replaced, they are fixed, our brain is plastic in the sense that it can recycle pre-existing neural structures. There are some studies suggesting we produce new neurons, but these could be highly specialised task based neurons and we don't have any degree of confidence to know what organisational structures create consciousness. But this is all besides the point, you cannot, using any material model of physics, justify a position that HOW you produce an object has any bearing on the structure of that object. If you can do it gradually there should be absolutely no reason why doing it all at once would be any different, the entire concept violates physicalism on a fundamental level. You are essentially arguing for a metaphysical concept of consciousness. Imagine you transfer your consciousness, ship of theseus style, to this digital computer, then I turn the computer and boot it back up. Will you be dead and a new you took over? If your answer is no, then consciousness is tied to the pattern and not some causal chain of events, which means you can resurrect yourself after death, in fact it means eventually a computer will spontaneously reproduce your consciousness (you could be in such a simulation right now) OR you can argue causality is integral, but then the problem is that at any given micro-second any given CPU is 'cycling' its instruction set, in other words digital consciousness has a refresh rate, it is periodically shutting down and turning back on very very quickly, why would this not essentially be breaking the causal chain and killing you? Ultimately the subjective quality of consciousness is impossible to empirically test, so the computer would absolutely affirm that it is you, but YOU would very much be 'dead'.

[Anonymous No.16492712]

>>16487940
>avatar project
Nice try you slimy alien bastard.

[Anonymous No.16492803]

>>16489998
If that's true you probably 'die' every time you get anaesthetised so I hope you don't have any surgeries in the future.

[Anonymous No.16492823]

>>16486594
i believe in reincarnation

[Anonymous No.16492864]

Yes, but only on the mars breakaway civilization.

[Anonymous No.16492926]

>>16488493
I take vitamin D because I'm a neet who doesn't get sunlight