Is a Masters in Computer Science worth it?

[Anonymous No.16456851]

I cant find a decent job with my meme STEM degree.
I have 0 debt right now.
The program would be around $35,000.
My expenses are $30,000. Car is paid off and Japanese so it should last a while. Don't care about having kids/wife/ owning a house.
So if it helps me get a job for even $60,000, I could pay the loan back in like 2-3 years if I really tried.
Any advice? Would the certificate route be a better idea?

[Anonymous No.16456996]

>>16456851
No one on this board have a Masters?

[Anonymous No.16457016]

>>16456851
>>16456996
Of all the majors offered in University today, Computer Science is THE single most oversaturated degree there is bar none. I'm genuinely not memeing you when I say this as we often are about a lot of things. The heavy push with government "outreach", the pop up of "coding bootcamps", the influx of Pajeet's 18 month CS "degree" and a myriad of other problems plaguing the tech sector have made it such that unless you're planning to go for PhD and teach academia in the perpetuating cycle, it's a bad fucking investment.

Incidentally, while IT suffers many similar problems, the field at least has a bit of a better support network. If you can get in contact with some friends, IT bros will always have your back allowing for easy lateral movement.

[Anonymous No.16457043]

>>16456851

A cs masters is pretty useless unless you need it for Visa status / a foothold to immigrate with

[Anonymous No.16457055]

>>16456851
No. Cs jobs are outsourced to pajeets.

[Anonymous No.16457080]

>>16456996
I've got a masters in quantitative finance. Yes it opens opportunities I got a job very quick and make 85k a year. I could make more if I were smarter and could get past the third or fourth round of interviews getting grilled on code and math.

[Anonymous No.16457090]

>>16457016
IT is dogshit and takes no skill. Even more saturated with Indian shits

[Anonymous No.16457095]

>>16457016
But the saturation is in Bachelors degrees and not Masters degrees? Someone with a Masters will likely be much more competent about the bigger picture than someone who just took a "coding bootcamp" or 18 month CS degree.

[Anonymous No.16457102]

>>16457080
Is there legitimacy in QF or does the majority of success come from insider trading and riding the bull market?

[Anonymous No.16457122]

>>16457090
>IT is dogshit and takes no skill. Even more saturated with Indian shits
IT is very broad. Yeah, tier I IT is fucking as flooded as the ocean in poo, but as you move up the latter to tier II and tier III where skill and competence actually does matter, you're in a better position. Indians are hired for their code monkey labor, but there is almost no worthwhile company that relies on cheap ass labor to manage their most integral network structure and security.

>Someone with a Masters will likely be much more competent about the bigger picture than someone who just took a "coding bootcamp" or 18 month CS degree.
Yes, but as far as software development in general goes (which is what I'm assuming you were hoping to achieve job-wise), price is all that matters. Get something to the customer, fix the bugs and problems along the way. In the end, it just boils down to networking again, as with any other industry. You have to find like-minded colleagues and friends who will be able to put you where you should be, not competing with the rest of the hoard.

If you're serious about it, I would say go for the masters, but do not dawdle as you probably did in undergrad. Use that extra time to FIND PEOPLE and network. Ask your professors. Go to recruiting events. Search.

[Anonymous No.16457127]

>>16457122
>>16457095

[Anonymous No.16457138]

>>16457095
Opportunity costs...2y of doing literally the same theoretical shit over and over again gives you no adventage in the real world....but you do you. ;)

[Anonymous No.16457139]

>>16456996
I was one sem into a Master of Data Science at one of the top 50 uni's in the world.

I dropped out this year because i made it.
NEVER GOING BACK FUCK UNI.

[Anonymous No.16457140]

>>16457095
Of course people realize you can teach some Indian who doesn't give a shit about anything he does how to make a website.

What I find funny is people who don't understand that every worthwhile sector is being bombarded with Indians, Gulf Arabs, and Asians who are desperate for a white-collar job.
The meme of CS being flooded is true, and yet it's still the biggest growing sector worldwide. Law schools and med schools are filled to the brim and extremely expensive, CS pays amazingly for the amount of time/pay-in but requires you to prove you're better than an Indian.

IT is fucking dead because troubleshooting your network requires 1 or 2 head guys who know their shit and a few brainless Indians. Law is dead because every nigress wants to become one and we need less and less. Medical is still great but requires a fucking shitload of money and almost a decade. Business has ALWAYS been way flooded because it's like ~30-40% of all college majors.

CS is flooded and competitive, and yet it's still good for people with actual talent because you get out what you put in

[Anonymous No.16457148]

>>16457122
>but do not dawdle as you probably did in undergrad. Use that extra time to FIND PEOPLE and network. Ask your professors. Go to recruiting events. Search.
Thanks for the advice. I got top of my class in most classes in undergrad but didn't network.

[Anonymous No.16457161]

>>16457122
The amount of these serious IT jobs is extremely small. Sure they're great but so is devops, you only need a handful for a whole company.

The reality is people bitching and moaning about this competition don't get it. A 60k/yr job in the US is still a very good job. You can get these in software easily. Compare to many other professional sectors where a decade of experience is required.

CS pays stupid money still for what the job is, it's just competitive as hell because of foreigners and idiots who see the average salary

[Anonymous No.16457170]

>>16457148
>I got top of my class in most classes in undergrad but didn't network.
The greatest mistake, yet you are among many. Genuine recruiters should take you more seriously when you're working towards your Masters. One more thing, while your back in school, find a project to contribute towards. Ask your professors if they are working on something and if you can help. This will literally give you the edge over everybody else you're competing against. Something tangible (as much as software can be, at least) that produced results.

Best of luck if your serious.

[Anonymous No.16457171]

>>16457140
>people with actual talent
how do I find out if I have the potential to be toward the top?

I 4.0'd all my computer and engineering classes, and half the students seemed retarded in comparison. There were only very few I encountered where I would say they had potential talent. But how can I rate myself when I am obviously biased to rate myself higher?

[Anonymous No.16457180]

>>16457170
> Ask your professors if they are working on something and if you can help.
Even more great advice. Thanks for these gems.

[Anonymous No.16457195]

>>16457161
I suppose you're right in some sense. One of the greatest problems with CS is that all the students are sold the perception of a lie and unrealistic expectations. Of course there are real problems as you mentioned, but a lot of it is everyone expecting CS to be some guaranteed money making machine because "they" said it was supposed to be.

Actual CS guys who know their stuff are a rarity, but the issue lies in supply oversaturation where employers have the pick of the litter at the cheapest prices for results that are "good enough". Yeah, what a fucking mess, but like with most shit today, you just have to struggle more.

What a cruel fucking situation we find ourselves in.

[Anonymous No.16457201]

>>16457016
>IT bros will always have your back allowing for easy lateral movement.
Not when they're chinks and pajeets and you're a white minority.

[Anonymous No.16457241]

>>16456851
Fuck college. Get some VMware, AWS and/or Azure certifications and start making $60-120/hr.

[Anonymous No.16457295]

>>16457241
Which is the easiest and most popular for hiring?

[Anonymous No.16457314]

>>16457241
If you already have a Bachelor's then this is the right move.
Get AWS certifications, use Terraform to spin up your infrastructure. Set up a few projects in a github demonstrating you are capable.

[Anonymous No.16457429]

>>16457314
Which ones? Is Associate level enough? I dont realistically have the skill for Professional, my bachelors degree is engineering but not exactly computer related.
If Associate, just one of them or Architect, Dev, and Operations? What about Specialty?
I'd greatly appreciate the advice!

[Anonymous No.16457433]

I’m a product manager at a software startup, I can’t tell you how much I hope I did that

[Anonymous No.16457438]

>>16456851
>don't care about literally only things in life worth a fuck

Lmao bing bing wahoo!!

[Anonymous No.16457450]

>>16457433
Age? I'll be 26 soon. Got my bachelors in 2016.

[Anonymous No.16457487]

>>16457314
>>16457429
Just researched a bit, obviously not Professional or Specialty.
All the relevant jobs in my area also want experience, will the github projects count as experience?