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When is this little rocket taking me to the moon?

>> No.16294712

You got scammed.. XD

>> No.16294753

>>16294689
in a year or two. hodl

>> No.16294760
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>>16294689
>little rocket
>moon
been seeing so much of this shit constantly posted i had to check the charts myself i thought i was missing a moonshot
no
no not at all
looking at the weekly charts makes me think it had two breaths and died before it could even open its eyes

>> No.16294801

>>16294689
S
C
A
M

>> No.16294915

>>16294712
EX DEE would never betray me like this.
>>16294753
What's happening in a year or two specifically?
>>16294760
It's been fairly stable no? I don't see why it should plummet because it doesn't seem like many people are bagholding from a while ago

>> No.16294946

>>16294915
>specifically
i would need my crystal ball to give you specifics, but did you really think your highly speculative penny stock of a crypto was going to moon to $5 overnight? we have to wait for central banks to start adopting. and it would help if we had mainnet and there was something to adopt

you can always give up and panic sell. i'll buy your bags

>> No.16294969

maybe in a month... maybe in a year... or... maybe never....

>> No.16295014

>>16294946
I guess what I really mean is: what makes you so sure banks are going to adopt?
Wasn't that mostly built on LARPs? And those LARPs are old now

>> No.16295033

>>16294969
When projects like this one get abandoned (I'm assuming the worst case scenario here) what usually happens? The price just plummets to 0 and then disappears?
It just seems to me like as the price is so low atm, that it shouldn't take all that much effort from the developers to make it worth at least a little more...right?

>> No.16295045

>>16295033
True

>> No.16295049

because the first bank mainnet is about to go live

and the 2nd may come before Christmas

>>16295014

>> No.16295077

>>16295014
It wasn't built on larps. Launch was simply delayed now ppl first explanation is scam or larp. It is coming very soon

>> No.16295117

>>16294689
Once main net hits next month and they drop more info on top of that we’ll moon pretty hard. Not to mention when romp starts?!

>> No.16295125

using this fud to accumulate millions of fantom has proved to me once again most people are retarded

they announced banks, it was delayed for a few weeks and biz got annoyed started fudding

kek

>> No.16295133

>>16295125
This

>> No.16295190

>>16295125
They’ve been announcing shit since may and people don’t even do their due diligence to see what’s what. They just post the same “scam” fud. It’s like they’re not even trying anymore. If you’re in ftm now with 100k+ you’re gonna make it.

>> No.16295266

[2. Trade - Ironforge] WTS 20K FTM @ 154 SATS WHISPER ME

>> No.16295271

>>16295266
Who would go the trouble to buy your dust above market price?

>> No.16295283

>>16295077
I see. Do you have much info on the team behind it? I have only seen the website. I don't use twitter - is that where they're active?
>>16295117
They have announced mainnet as next month? Or is this another "mainnet EOY"/random date
>>16295125
Where did they announce banks?
Pardon my retardation everyone. Really asking genuine questions.

>> No.16295295

>>16295271

[Guild] [Bobo]: Nobody it's the price I'm waiting for

>> No.16295301

>>16295190
What else do you own fren?
Have you already made it?
Where can I see these announcements? Are the team reliable?
Thanks

>> No.16295366

>>16295283
They announced it for next month.

>> No.16295376

>>16295283
The only confirmed members of car so far are Andre Cronje and Anton Nell.

The call for validator nodes was made from the fantom foundation telegram channel and Twitter accounts.

They announced banks in september in a medium article and reaffirmed it in various AMAs since.

The delay comes from the banks integrating the tech but they are aiming to launch before their holiday freeze

>> No.16295428

>>16295283

https://medium.com/fantomfoundation/go-lachesis-technical-accomplishments-58d8fd400902

Sorry for possible shit spacing on the phone but here they say it’s dropping next month. Also you can browse medium for all there articles ranging from Dubai partnerships, the banks and even fantom pay which is what the mean when describing the crypto adoption, payments and lending. Fantom is going to be fucking huge. All those people posting “scam” are going to neck. Check em

>> No.16295439

>>16295301
All in on fantom but might accumulate some other ones for ez money but fantom is going to get me my house and my Lamborghini. We’re all going to be rich.

>> No.16295450

I think xar launches this week

>> No.16295733

>>16295366
>>16295428
>>16295439
Thanks for the effort in these posts mang. Appreciate it.
As I myself don't work in tech (architect) I'm just curious what you work as? Or are you a NEET? Just trying to gauge who else is on this ship with me. What's the calibre of the crew?

>> No.16295775

>>16295376
I thought Cronje was just listed as like...an interested third party/advisor?
Interesting. I think I'll have to start a Twitter account so I can actually be more in the know about this shit.

In terms of banks integrating this: does that make it a competitor for Ripple/XRP or is it totally different and both just hope to work with banks?

>> No.16295814

>>16295775
Better than ripple. Xar is permissionless, faster, more secure, decentralized, no founders holding any FTM token.

Here is a recent article from Andre Cronje regarding all the DeFi features he's implemented in Statheros (Xar):
“Fantom DeFi Chain Modules” by Michael Chen https://link.medium.com/xFiaDJGdv1

Andre may not be officially on the team but he's certainly the one who coded the whole thing.

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>>16295733
Nah i'm not a neet. I work for the state but when fantom moons I'll be doing whatever the fuck I want.

>> No.16295905

>>16295450
Source?

>> No.16295915

>>16295905
I think as in i think it will.

Check github. Seems like genesis has been attempted thi morning at 6am UCT

>> No.16295918

>>16294689
You guys are definitely memeing. Nobody here actually still holds this shit.

>> No.16295924

I love all these dudes posting about unverified tech. Stfu until there is a release I wouldn't believe these jokesters who delayed mainnet a whole year and have Andre working on xar but not tell anyone acting like it's some outside legitamacy of interest in fantom

>> No.16295936

>>16295918
Oh but I do. Way over a node's worth.

>> No.16295943

>>16295924
thread was free from retards for a whole 20 mins till you showed up

>> No.16295950

>>16295924
> I only buy shit once it has mooned and reddit is buying. I am not able to assess things for myself and take risks based on my own understanding of multiple factors

>> No.16296008

>>16295918
some of us are invested for 2021 and not 2017, linklet

>> No.16296262

>>16295814
>Andre may not be officially on the team but he's certainly the one who coded the whole thing.
He does it for free?

And what are these banks supposed to do with FTM as a token?

>> No.16296336

>>16296262
They'll put it up your ass and carry you to the moon. Either that or secure the network.

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Its coming guys

>> No.16296464

>>16296436
They'll exit scam. There is no mainnet.

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>>16296464
How much are you trying to accumulate?

>> No.16296501

>>16296464
theres 3 so far

learn to read

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16296520

300k more and I have my 1st node's worth

>> No.16296643

>>16295895
Ok good. Just trying to verify if everyone else investing is retarded. That would be worrying. Although I imagine some NEETs are actually highly intelligent and just disabled somehow, I digress...
>>16295915
Very interesting.
>>16295924
>>16295943
>>16295950
Yeah just ignore this level of pointless trolling. I think FTM is definitely risky but so is any early stage investment.
>>16296008
Bingo.
>>16296262
Yeah it does strike me as...strange that he'd not be on the team but also code the entire thing. Seems like a baseless statement. I mean it's basically any oxymoron.
>>16296464
I...I don't think so somehow. It's not worth enough yet. At least I know that if I were a scammer I would wait.

>> No.16296712

>>16294689
>>16294753
>>16294946
>>16294969
>>16295014
>>16295049
>>16295125
>>16295376
>>16295814
>>16295915
>>16295950
>>16296436
>>16296495
Does anyone have a way to actually verify that this such great tech? Like prove it runs in 0.7 seconds or whatever the claim is? I'd feel pretty confident if I knew exactly what I'm buying.

>> No.16296868

>>16296712
We are using Andre Cronje and Michael Kong's words who both have said sub second finality multiple times.

Prior to seeing mainnet, it is a matter of taking these people's word for it. I get that for some people it isn't enough of a certainty, but plenty of us will be pretty comfortable in trusting these guys and place our bets accordingly.

>> No.16296872

>>16296712
Nope. All you have is breadcrumbs. Investing at stages like this is like gambling, but can be the difference between a small gain and a big gain

>> No.16297618

>>16296868
Are the Twitter accounts where they've said this stuff 100% verified legit?
I'd hate to be tricked.
>>16296872
Do you think we could just...ask Cronje? I mean he isn't that famous right? If we just straight up ask on twitter?

>> No.16297669

>>16296712
You can go to the github and spin up a node if you want yourself brainlet, it’s easy to check

>> No.16297700

>>16295918
I’m all in pussy

>> No.16297730

>>16296712
By the time you know it's priced in. You don't make money buying proven tech in crypto. It's already over priced then.

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>>16297618
You can chat him up on telegram. He usually evenually answers questions when he is tagged.

See pic related, adjustment he made recently to xar code base. Initially blocka were set for 250ms finality, but nodes could no catch up to the workload (that's how fast lachesis consensus is) so he had to adjust it to 1s for now. He said that once snapshotting is implemented in early 2020, it will return to sub second finality.

You can search for his answers on the topic in the fantom community chat.

>> No.16297747

>>16294760
>checking "charts himself"
nigger this is about the software and perception.. not "MuH Ta".. what a faggot.

>> No.16297767

>>16296520
how much for node?

>> No.16297784

>>16297767
3.175M FTM for now. That will be the starting point for Xar and Opera mainnets. This amount can eventually be adjusted by governance vote later on for example if the price of FTM rises a lot and not enough people can qualify to run nodes on new mainnets.

>> No.16297826

>>16297767
>>16297784
Sorry but I'm quite confused what you mean when you refer to buying a node. I understand what a node on a blockchain does, but how do you actually buy one? Is not the usual case of the nodes being people mining the coin?

>> No.16297847

>>16297669
Easy if you aren't retarded, good sir. I'm a weird combination of total Luddite/crypto enthusiast. I understand these things in theory but practically most of it is way over my head.

>> No.16297861

>>16297826
You need to buy 3.175M tokens for run a validator node and get 15% annualized returns with 70% of supply staked.

You can stake for 12% returns with 70% of supply staked with any token amount you own

>> No.16297892

Can someone confirm whether Andre is getting paid for his work or if he's actually on the team or not?

What a strange situation.

>> No.16297924

>>16297861
I see. And then running the node still requires you to have a dedicated computer rig doing it or just any old heap of shit windows 95 would do it?
I'm not sure I fully understand that. Isn't the speed of the system down to the speed that the nodes run at? So what difference does it make how much FTM you hold - shouldn't it just be down to the hardware capability computer running the node?
Apologies in advance for being a brainlet.

Also as an aside: unfortunately I have nowhere near enough to buy that much FTM. 100k will have to do me.

>> No.16297938

>>16297892
He is technical advisor for fantom. Due to conflict of interest with his work in XAR for the stablecoin, he could no longer be an active member of fantom team

>> No.16297952

>>16297892
they pay for his travels and shit

>> No.16297957

>>16297924
The 3.175 mill is just a consensual entry barrier at this moment.

>> No.16297963

Nice last minute save. When did Andre say he had to leave because of xar?

>> No.16297977

>>16297963
>>16297938
Wait WHAT?? SOURCE? Wht the fuck

>> No.16297989

>>16297963
That's been commented in the TG groups since some time, and confirmed by both sides

>> No.16298016

>>16297989
>>16297952
>>16297938
No it hasn’t fagfot, fuck off you larping pajeet

>> No.16298020

TG groups say he doesn't last I checked. They have no info on Xar

>> No.16298039

>>16298020
Check it right now, it’s all bullshit fud probably started by the same USB fagfot trying to accumulate lower.

Andre is stil with the team and there’s no such thing as conflict of interest here

Not selling. Stay poor

>> No.16298044

>>16298016
Relax bro, it's just legal and compliance stuff. Otherwise xar could not be possible.

To put it simple for you, this thing is good, not bad.

>> No.16298058

>>16297957
Oh right...so it's literally just that there is a certain sign up fee to be a miner and that fee is X FTM?

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16298074

Lol mainnet is next week still noobs think it’s scam

>> No.16298078

>>16298016
So what is your argument? That he isn't on the team at all or that he is very much on the team and not just an advisor? I'm confused

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>>16298074
How come you think it's next week? Proof pls goobi?

>> No.16298115

>>16298078
I have no argument. I have a fact

He’s on the team and there’s no conflict of interest

>> No.16298185

>>16298058
Yes, we could say it that way. Only it is not mining per se, it is staking, but yes.

>>16298078
He is heavily involved as technical advisor, but not part of the team to avoid legal conflict. It's banks and monetary systems what we are discussing here, they must be very strict with the wording.

>> No.16298200

He doesn't know cause fantom is full of shit.

Legit the community doesn't even know that xar network isn't some company or legitimate effort by South African bank, it's Andre just working on something on the side.

What kind of legitimate network working with banks has legit no information about their project except 3 paragraphs.

Oh you know why cause it's just Andre doing it.

The same people who couldn't get mainnet out in time because nobody wanted to use their platform had to go build a platform instead to give their mainnet some use.

Bullshitting the community with oh most of our clients will use a private implementation of the blockchain I'm sure

>> No.16298266

>>16298200
When is the ICO for your TARD coin?

>> No.16298310

>>16298200
it's over

>> No.16298322
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>>16298200
Kek idiot

>> No.16298327

>>16298310
>it's over
never started

>> No.16298485

Notice your only refute both times is idiot. Idiot

>> No.16298685

>>16295918
Oh yea you’re gonna have heart palpitations when this moons. Remember to breathe before you have a stroke

>> No.16298697

>>16298485
Notice that the proof will come soon

>> No.16298730

>>16298200
You started a sentence with "legit". You are not to be taken seriously.
>I deadass swear, yo. I'm a financial expert and shih. Legit brah!

>> No.16298752

>>16297861
25% but ya

>> No.16298781

>>16298730
Actually I started with 'he' retard, and used legit as a transitional word into my premise.
But I shouldn't expect you to understanding writing composition

>> No.16298806

>>16298200
The other idiot in this thread might have a stroke when it moons. You are going to neck.

>> No.16298829

I have no fucking idea what's going on here, you retards keep posting contradicting points

>> No.16298853

>>16298829
The truth will prevail. Buy Fantom (not financial advice)

>> No.16298875

>>16298781
Nice IP switch, discord tranny

>> No.16298972

>>16298875
Next month can’t come fast enough. Just wait till it moons I’ll be watching those fudders like a hawk!

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16299037

Muhhh tranny fud
Stay poor

>> No.16299100

It will moon very soon, Im pretty sure. My spider senses are tingling

>> No.16299105

>>16299037
What is "finality"?

>> No.16299130

>>16299105
Time it takes for an operation to be validated and incorporated to the chain.

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>>16299100
Please let this be true fren
>those feels after holding stack for a year

>> No.16299462

>>16299276
It will.

>> No.16299482

>>16298781
What are you writing a poem you fucking retard?
You spaced for a paragraph and the first word was "Legit". Which you even capitalised.
Just leave biz and go back to primary school comprehension lessons you fucking mongoloid.

>> No.16299514

>>16298781
You started your entire moronic tyrade with He. But your sentence started with legit. Jesus fucking Christ. FUCK.

>> No.16299536

>>16299037
we made it boys

>> No.16299672

>>16299276
What price did you buy at? This one really gives me tingly nipples too. I don't know why though.

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>> No.16299838

>>16299814
Do you guys all work in tech or something?
What the fuck does "Lachesis" mean?
And actually, I'm ashamed to add, what IS "staking"?
I'm a believer in not pretending to understand even in the face of embarassment.

>> No.16299850

>>16299838
I have a CS math degree so I’m not a retard like you fortunately

>> No.16299920

>>16299838
Lachesis is just the name of the consensus. Staking is how you achieve that consensus.

I advise to DYOR from here.

>> No.16300162

>>16299850
Ok good lad. Do you want to explain or just hog all the brain for yourself?

>> No.16300176

>>16300162
Start by googling "what is proof of stake"
we're not going to hold your hand, you're an adult, figure it out

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16300236

Medium: https://medium.com/fantomfoundation
AMA: https://cryptodiffer.com/news/fantom-ama-recap-in-gcrypto-chat/
Binance Research Review: https://info.binance.com/en/research/FTM-2019-06-10.html
Twitter: https://twitter.com/FantomFDN
Proof of Stake improvement proposal: https://medium.com/fantomfoundation/fantom-improvement-proposal-2-proof-of-stake-by-the-numbers-fip-2-a02404144322

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How can make FTM from fuck prostitute?