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HAPPENING. IT'S OVER.

>> No.16226487

>>16226441
nothing ever happens

>> No.16226498

Imagine being ultra-rich and not preparing for EVERYTHING.

>> No.16226716

>>16226441
Based Tyler

>> No.16226738
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>>16226441
No one expected 2008, therefore 2008 happened

Everyone is expecting this, therefore, nothing will happen

>> No.16226739

>>16226441
This guy is almost like schiff, cry wolf asshole

>> No.16226755

>>16226738
>No one expected 2008
You're so wrong

>> No.16226760

NOTHING
EVER
HAPPENS

zerohedge is the alex jones of financial news

>> No.16226767

>>16226738
No one is expecting the crash to happen tomorrow, they say around q4 2020. Guess where the date is heading.

>> No.16226773

I want it to crash but chart looks bullish af

>> No.16226779

>>16226760
So if say a mayor financial institution were to comment on one of their articles it means that even mayor financial institutions care about it’s contents and apparently the content of the article provokes a unusual response. Wouldn’t that signal that the article has some truth to it? Hypothetically?

>> No.16226785

>>16226755
Yes, we all saw the great short. He means generally

>> No.16226798

>>16226779
Not necessarily no

>> No.16226810

>>16226441
We already know that Buffet is sitting on massive amounts of cash like he is waiting for something.

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>>16226738
Anyone who says this is a dumbfuck zoomer who has no clue what the last recession was like.

By 2006-07 everyone was talking about possible recession. And all the CNBC pundits, Fed, govt were denying everything. They got so cocky they didn't mind bringing doom conspiracy theorists on air for sensational ratings. https://youtu.be/Z0YTY5TWtmU

For some reason everyone thinks the global financial crisis happened all in one night, but it couldn't be further from the truth. By 2007, even before anything hit the fan, everyone and their grandma knew about the subprime mortgage debacle. The first major happening was early in April 2007 when New Century (REIT) went bankrupt.

The Fed started cutting rates in Aug 2007. The Dow Jones peak was Oct 2007. Bear Stearns happened 6 months later in Mar 2008. And then the real explosion that everyone remembers the GFC for, Lehman, didn't happen for ANOTHER 6 months later, in Sep 2008.

The keynesian bulls were saying the same thing in 2007. Everyone is talking about possible recession, therefore it cannot happen!

>> No.16226961

>>16226441
and biz still doesn’t believe in technical analysis

>> No.16227014

>>16226738
>No one expected 2008
Guessin you are to young to remember '08. People knew we were coming to the end of the cycle, they did not know what was the exact thing to push it over the edge. Its just that the predictions (rightly so) were apocalyptic. The whole QE thing was not in peoples minds. People are generally unaware of the 70(ish) cycle of bankruptcy of nations. It has everything to do with creditors.

2000 - This never got resolved
1930- great depression
1860 - civil war (which 99% of Mutts don't understand)
1790 - start of Burgerland union

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>>16227014
>The whole QE thing was not in peoples minds
That's because QE basically didn't EXIST until after the 2008 recession. Japan did something similar after the dotcom bust, but it was rarely talked about especially in the US.

>> No.16227059

>>16226441
>They see global interconnectivity and reverbations of change impacting their portfolios more than traditional business fundamentals, a marked change from the past.

Such word-salad horse shit. Here's a translation of the above in plain English: "kikes know the goyim are pissed and pointing fingers"

>> No.16227065

>>16226947
Great summary of how it unfolded anon. I lived it as a business owner and it was a terrible time. Let's just say that after witnessing what went down first hand and falling for the absolute bullshit that CNBC and other financial news was spoon feeding everyone saying things would be just fine and to keep investing in stocks that literally collapsed just a couple weeks later, I will forever sit in a minimum of 20% cash.

>> No.16227067

>>16226441
buy signal

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>>16227065
Do the opposite of what (((CNBC))) tells you https://youtu.be/eBJUNPCeJAg

>> No.16227117

>>16227044
>That's because QE basically didn't EXIST until after the 2008 recession.
I should have said 'as a 'solution''
Didn't know it was a thing in Japan before, interesting.

>> No.16227126

>>16226441
I fully expect this thread to get slid. Can't have any threads on /biz/ about actual business and about things that would literally impact everyone on this board. Better to have 500 LINK and BSV shill threads daily to keep this board relevant to the sub 80 IQ crowd...

>> No.16227127

Still in early rally stage rn

Everyone positioned super defensive and we hit ath again. I'm seeing risk slowly notch up now as people realize we are not overbought

>> No.16227139

>the ultra-rich are telling you to PANIC

>> No.16227144

>>16227127
That's called FOMO, and we all know how that ends....

>> No.16227146

>>16227014
could you give me a rundown on the civil war?

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>>16226947
Based. Lehman also did not just collapse all in one day. They were going down for years. Just like Deutsche has been going down for years. The tipping point is when they run out of cash and nobody will lend to them, at which point Germany will probably take it over, shifting TRILLIONS of debt onto the ECB. Euro will be fucked, Switzerland and Italy especially fucked

>> No.16227178

>>16227144

Yes all I'm saying is we in early stage fomo right now and the gains are greatest before the crash

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>>16227178
Better to be a year early than a day too late

>> No.16227210

>>16227197

Ye I'm staying defensive. Too lazy to shuffle things around and I'll catch half the up and miss half the down. Good enough for me, any day I beat the index is a good one and exponentially so on red days

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Jesus fucking christ. Fed repo was $112 billion today, almost bumping up to the $120b cap that they increased to from $75b a couple weeks ago https://apps.newyorkfed.org/markets/autorates/temp

>> No.16227284

Why would the ultra rich be moving to cash at the same time as this repo issue?

Does the repo activity not signal potential cash weakness?

I'm uneducated please help me

>> No.16227307

>>16227270
Kinda nuts that billions are being repod per fucking night?

>> No.16227330

>>16227284
It is unironically providing cover for them to move money out of the market while keeping the market stable. It's kind of genius if you think about it. Once they are done, the REPO window closes and the market dumps on normies.

>> No.16227344

>>16226441
oh, look, zerohedge peddling more fear porn

>> No.16227352

>>16227284
QE means the government is literally buying the top, so the tax payers. All to keep stability for just a little while longer.

>> No.16227368

>>16227330
>>16227352
But its not indicative of dollar weakness? Or are they then moving their money into gold or something

Holding hoards of cash is not a very smart idea, is it?

>> No.16227374

I’ve seen and heard a bunch of investing advertisements on telavivision and the radio lately. A lot more than I’ve ever seen before. They are trying to get every last Norman into the market before the rug is pulled. Damn being in BTC is comfy.

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>>16226798
K

>> No.16227395

>>16227374
Wouldn't getting every last norman into the market be legitimately good for market health? Its really never been easier for normies to put 10% of their paycheck into the market. Isnt normalizing this a good thing, generally speaking?

>> No.16227398

>>16227374
Yes. That and "refinance your student loans" commercials

>> No.16227424

>>16227374
BTC has never seen a market crash. It’s true test will be how it reacts when the legacy system goes tits up. I have a lot of faith that Bitcoin will be the world’s reserve currency but not before a lot of pain and suffering in society.

>> No.16227429

>>16226947
Fuck. Good post. This means we could unironically be weeks away

>> No.16227453

>>16227171
Why will Switzerland be fucked?!

>> No.16227459

>>16227368
>Holding hoards of cash is not a very smart idea, is it?
long term? no. In a situation where most financial vehicles yield losses? absolutely yes. I imagine rich people are skeptical of gold because it's (price go up != stability) not stable, and even dipped between 08-09. Peaking AFTER that recession hit.

But I'm not an expert.

>> No.16227477

>>16227376
K what? You act like you know it's some VP posting that. Zerohedge isn't some obscure blog, it's pretty popular. So some social media manager saw it and made a comment? So what? It's not some smoking gun

This isn't to defend Deutsche Bank either, just saying it doesn't necessarily mean anything

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>>16227477
Look at the manner of their response. It just doesn't look good them hand waving it away without actually refuting anything. It's "no u" tier

>> No.16227529

What's the best industry to invest in after the eventual crash??? I'm looking to stay out until after the crash and buy in at the bottom and ride the "recovery"

>> No.16227542

>>16227511
I couldn't care less about douche bank but if you want to propose that a bank will collapse, tweets aren't exactly evidence. Assuming you're not a DB employee strawmanning, in which case, ignore me and carry on.

>> No.16227559

>>16227330
literally this

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>>16227424
Agreed, I'm very interested to see what happens as well. Considering Satoshi's concern for this very issue.

Pic related.

>> No.16227642

>>16227511
agree that its stupid comment but maybe it just shows that old media is dying and it seems more shocking because they tweeted it instead of just having some talking head say it out loud

>> No.16227648

>>16227625
Craig is very concerned

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>>16227648
doofus

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>>16227648

>> No.16227673

>>16226738
This is the stupidest thing I've ever fucking read.
MANY people were raising concerns of the fluidity of lending and saying it should be illegal- but that's the joke, it wasn't illegal.

>> No.16227675

>>16227642
what's worse is that Deutsche Bank wasn't tagged in it - they just happened to see it and they commented on it

It is absolute cringe that Deutsche Bank had their twitter intern scour the internet for negative comments about Deutsche Bank and be defensive/supportive of DB

>> No.16227711

>>16226947
Only on this board would a post agreeing with the initial post he's disagreeing with have 3 replies saying how based he was for agreefully-disagreeing. What the guy you're replying to means by "everyone is expecting this" isn't one edgy doomer going around yelling about the collapse, every single media outlet is constantly reminding us that the recession is coming, yes even the one you posted a video of as a disproval. Ironically everything you posted, especially the video, just proves the initial poster's claims - everyone thought that capitalism had overcome the recessions and it was just a handful of doomers who could see the truth. Now, everyone thinks that the second depression is about to come and it's a handful of bloomers who're trying to convince them that we're not there yet but to no avail

>> No.16227738

>>16227453
I'm not sure but I think it's because Switzerland is a rich country mostly because of financial jewery

>> No.16227747

>>16226738
everyone with a brain expected 2008
the ones who said it was fine were the banks

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>>16226441
>zerohedge
Anon, I ...

>> No.16227876

>>16227711
Interesting idea. I really can't gauge how it was in 2006-2009, and compare it to today, I was in highschool and couldn't give a shit about finance.
But the best I can do is google "recession" today and click on the news section, it seems pretty balanced, and sometimes the same website calls for a recession and cancels it by end of week. I guess it isn't an immediate threat at least.
Thanks for the quality post.

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16227987

why do you guys love being poor so much?

>> No.16228077

>>16227126
There has been a couple of good quality post in all this shit. The peps above sub 90 iq are at least noticing the similarities

>> No.16228093

>>16227747
I graduated college December '07, my first job out of school in January was for a real estate auction firm. The company was making money hand over fist the next few years and to be honest as a young person who didn't really pay attention to the news, I never knew how bad things really were for everyone until years later, I was so insulated in our company's success. But the bigger point is this company was already prepared over a year in advance for the tidal wave of foreclosed assets that were going to be hitting the auction blocks, before then the idea of auctioning or bidding on a house versus using a realtor was more a novelty.

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>>16227511
this guy is a massive faggot, he cries wolf for years now

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>>16228131
>WAAAAAAH i got blocked for being a faggot

>> No.16228181

>>16227146
Civil - creditors needed more land for surety. The south was not part of the union.
Great depression - creditors took all the gold, so used the movable land (peoples bodies) as surety. (this was all western countries).a 'income' tax was introduced.

>> No.16228187

>>16226738
I knew that shit was going down.
Subprime lending is retarded. Bush's culture of home ownership was retarded. Boomer greed is retarded.

We are much more fucked than even in the 20s.

>> No.16228223

>>16227171
That's why the Greeks signing with China is a big fucking dead canary in the coal mine. China wants global shipping by the balls. The silk road will be able for the Chicoms to militarily project anywhere.

>> No.16228241

>>16228223
Mind expanding on this. How is it the canary in the coal mine?

>> No.16228243

>>16227511
That's some hard proof.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhohteHuyPM

>> No.16228264

>>16226947
>>16227065
>>16227171
>>16227429
>>16227711
Saved. This is quite literally the best post on /biz/ I have read in a long time. Guess we're all in for a rough ride...

>> No.16228289

I suggest getting into silver and gold asap

>> No.16228292

Follow (((the money))). All I'll say is Jews are exiting their assets into USD in my city. That is enough to tell me a recession is near. Recently (((someone))) just sold property rights he bought in 2008 for a 3x gain for mid 300 million.

>> No.16228320

>>16228264
If someone is giving advice from a place of magical thinking, be cautious.

No one is seeking you out by name and trading against you.
When a high number of people believe something, will not make its true or its opposite true.

These are magical thinking examples, which zoomers are especially prone to, as I was at their age too.

>> No.16228330

>>16226487
>he doesn’t know there’s been a continuous Happening since 2006
Back to sleep, boomer

>> No.16228359

>>16226738
Correct, it will be early 2022
Remember: BTC will have hit 100k in 2021 and the N5A will have succeeded in their mission

>> No.16228420

>>16227171
yeah sure

>switzerland

the country which is constantly betting against euro and has the strongest currency on the market. you habe now idea what you are talking about

>> No.16228460

>>16228289
why not short tech? metals dont profit 1to1 when assets drop

sounds like we got a chicken on our hands

>> No.16228465

>>16227529
Kneepads and missile manufacturers

>> No.16228539

>>16227738
That's no longer the case. It was before 2008, but since then they are now as important as insurances. I think it went from 14% of the GPD to 8%

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>>16226947
Years later, economists will point to the 2008 financial crisis as merely the first significant event leading up to the 2020s Greater Depression

>2008-2009: Instead of allowing the economy to crash organically, world leaders and central banks take over private companies and print trillions to keep the bubble from completely popping. The world's debt is never allowed to deleverage and the bubbles are reflated
>2017-2018: Fed attempts to start reducing balance sheet and normalizing interest rates after a decade of near-zero
>December 2018: Markets not able to handle it, Christmas crash, Dow Jones -20%
>July 2019: Yield curve inverts, Fed reverses course after only being able to raise rates to 2.5%, starts cutting rates
>September 2019: Repo market almost collapses as effective rates spike to over 10%, highest level in decades. Fed starts pumping liquidity into the market with new disguised QE operations
>October 2019: Fed expands QE4 to highest rate since QE1, extends schedule out to Q1 2020

What's next?

>Sometime Q4 2019 - Q1 2020: Dow Jones reaches market peak?

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16228574

Blythe thread?

>> No.16228644

>>16228569
Ok so what do you expect us to invest in if stocks AND bonds will crash?
>inb4 gold or crypto

>> No.16228652

>>16228644
gold or crypto

>> No.16228660

>>16228644
4% to 7% guaranteed returns in DeFi is looking pretty good now lol

>> No.16228667

>>16226441
Soooo buy S&P 500 PUTS ?

>> No.16228704

>>16228667
y'all crazy trying to actually time it. seems more sensible to me to simply have less money invested in markets that are poised to crash.

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>>16227171
Shorting $DB

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>>16226947
>Be me in 2006
>HS sophomore in California
>Everyone selling their homes at skyhigh prices

>2007
>Hear about people defaulting on mortgages (suckered by boomers that sold high)
>Gen-X parents sell home and we rent for a while on the advice of a gracious broker who foresaw the whole thing
>Start noticing foreclosures everywhere

>2008
>Fanny and Freddy
>Bank runs
>Lehman and Bear RIP
>Can't find min wage jobs
>Attend job fair
>Nothing but old people as far as the eye can see competing for min wage jobs against a few late-millennial/proto-zoomers

>2009
>Graduate
>Bottom of economy
>Parents manage to scoop up a great deal of a house
>Couldn't find a job while in college
>See more boomers and old people trying to kill one another over min wage jobs at job fairs

And that is how my /biz/ness career started. Be the bully or be bullied. We're all going to make it lads.

>> No.16228923

>>16227139
The ultra rich are panicking

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fucking kek at trump's speech going on now

"Negative interest rates, who ever heard of that? Gimme some of that. Gimme some of that money!"

>> No.16229170

>>16227987
Now do it how people really invest, i.e. buying tops and selling bottoms

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>>16227424
>>16227625

The story goes like this:
>Federal Reserve and ECB refuse to let another 2008 happen
>Flood the system with negative interest rates and QE 4, 5, 6, 7
>Capital can't find yields because bonds are shit, zombie companies are existing to finance debt, and millenials can't afford dying boomers houses
>Capital flows into cryptocurrency in a feedback loop of increasing yields and more QE
>Hyperbitcoinization
>Ruling class allows it to happen because they're personally all in on crypto

>> No.16229506

>>16226441
You wouldn't hear about this until after the crash if it were true. The ultra wealthy don't let other people project their sentiment into the market

>> No.16229516

>>16226441
And what should we do besides switching into cash and getting eaten away by inflation?

>> No.16229557

>>16227511
The fact they even replied is scary.

>> No.16229574

>says nervous beartard every day for the last 5 years
>market hits a new all time high today

kill yourselvs

>> No.16229616

>>16229574
>What is quantitative easing?

This ride will not last for much longer mate. I agree though, zerohedge is memetier in their bearishness end of the world tone. Fucking Gen-Xers. All my friends are dead.

>> No.16229674

>>16228574
He cute

>> No.16229937

>>16229516
Buy gold and silver

>> No.16229969

>>16228644
Crypto will crash too

>> No.16230017

>>16228187
Why haven't you made it then?

>> No.16230063

>>16229516
Buy link

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How fucked are all the pic related lemmings going to be when it does crash? And how stupid do you have to be to think that the world and markets are just going to continue as-is for another 30 years to where millennials will be able to comfortably retire from their 401ks just like boomers can today?

>> No.16230158

>>16229937
>>16229969
try harder boomer

>> No.16230160

>>16230073
Unfortunately for your fragile ego, they won't be fucked because a large percent of freshly printed money will continue to flow into the stock market.

>> No.16230902

>>16230160
but can freshly printed money prop up the market for another 3-4 decades?

>> No.16231093

>>16229516
Buy Distik.

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>>16231093

>> No.16231117

>>16226738
negro, i was telling people i knew not to buy houses back in '05. I didnt think it was going worldwide but even i saw that shit coming.

>> No.16231242

>>16228569
I need more time to prepare, I hope it takes more time

>> No.16231592

>>16230160
Hmmm, wermacht have I seen this before?

>> No.16231612

>>16231592
Meant Weimar

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>>16231612

>> No.16231729

>>16226441
Explain this in English.

>> No.16231881

>>16226779
I dont know, i aint never heard of no mayor

>> No.16233006

>>16231881
Underrated

>> No.16233059

>>16228131
found the jew

>> No.16233284

>>16227330
Ive been saying this for months now. QE and negative rates are gov scam yo get mainstreet to buy in so wall street can offload

Why isnt everybody seeing this?!

>> No.16233309

>>16227395
Normies dont have enough money to do anything. And if smart money isnt buying in, its just a matter of time before all normies get weak hands and start selling. Without amarr money and only normies in the market, market will crash hard and they will let it crash hard.

>> No.16233369

>>16226738
More proof /biz/ is completely compromised by plebbitors

>> No.16233428

>>16233369
This. It’s almost unusable now sadly

>> No.16233488

>>16227284
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-fed-repo-tools-explainer/explainer-the-fed-has-a-repo-problem-whats-that-idUSKBN1W30EJ

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>>16226779
>retard says something retarded
>call retard a retard
>validates the retarded shit the retard said

>> No.16233686

>>16227270
I remember recently when they said it was a one time thing for like $60 billion only.

>> No.16233708

>>16226755
Other than some fringe doomers everyone was euphoric as fuck, now talk to the average normie and they're like "stocks are a scam bro" even though their up like 300% or whatever

>> No.16233758

>>16227014
(((Creditors)))

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>>16228644
You can get 5% annually paid out every three days by staking tezos on coinbase. Seems like a little floaty the jews are tossing to goyim before everything sinks.

>> No.16234080

>>16226441
unironically bullish, and i'm not saying that to go against the grain for shits and giggles. when you read things like this, it's the big boys telling you that they have ALREADY SOLD and they market is where it is. well, with those sellers removed from the market, guess where the next stop is? new highs niggers.

>> No.16234191

>>16228131
Agree with this. What kind of tween edgelord thinks Tyler durden is a role model

>> No.16234193

>>16226738
My dad works for a huge steel mill and says things are slowing way down. He's upper management/senior engineer level. Surely the steel industry is a good indicator

>> No.16234317

>>16234191
>this guy
he doesn't know

>> No.16234534

>>16226947
>2018 - stock markets slide nearly 20% from October to January
>Summer 2019 - Fed begins cutting interest rate
>September and October 2019 - Liquidity crisis in repo markets
What's next, /biz/?

>> No.16234582

>>16234534
Cascading failure of European banks. Somebody’s gonna get hurt real bad.

>> No.16234597

>>16234534
see
>>16228569

>> No.16234600

>>16234582
This.

>> No.16234635

good
I wanna pick shit like random shit like Tesla and apple dirt cheap.

Yall will hold these bags for me.

>> No.16234804
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>>16226441
pic related is ZH in a nutshell

>> No.16234822

>>16226441
So ummmmm what are some recession proof jobs we should find right now before its too late?

>> No.16234868
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>>16226738
I have to agree with this.
"The Big Short" guys for sure had giga brains but in all honesty; for all of them it was most likely a "once in a lifetime" moment where they got lucky to have discovered and understood something before anybody else. They made the big bucks with "one bet" and kudos to them. Every other "prophecy" that one of them, most prominently Burry, proclaims I just omitt because if he was "twice a lifetime" lucky, he wouldn't tell anybody.
Also pic related, there is a "zerohedge effect" as well.

>> No.16234997

>>16234868
You can know it’s coming and still not be able to time it well enough to profit from it. This is the nature of the beast.

>> No.16235142
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>>16228569
This is bullish af.
Thats a cup and you brainlet.
Forever poor.

>> No.16235166

>>16228868
This is the best post.
>be the bully or get bullied.

>> No.16235626

>>16227648
Lol'd, thanks anon

>> No.16235671

>>16228093
Based and redpilled. What kimd of work do you do now if you dont mind me asking?

>> No.16235727

>>16234822
Barber, janitor, security guard, dick sucker

>> No.16235750

>>16226441
>>16226487
>>16226738
>>16226755
>>16226760
Nothing ever happens and you still have to go to work tomorrow.

>>16227648
based

>> No.16235775

>>16229170
That's kind of what the chart is showing to a degree. Missing green days because you're trying to time the market.

>> No.16235804

>>16228359
BTC is never getting to ATH again.

>> No.16235814

>>16228264
We're not all in for a rough ride, the majority here are focused on holding crypto explicitly for the purpose of getting rich off the next collapse. Similar to the people who bought houses for cheap in 2008/9

>> No.16235824

Muh recession. Muh depression. Muh stock madket/real estate crash.

Lmao if you're a burger go outside and walk around your town. Visit your local shopping mall and try counting the number of white people you see. Try also to not get robbed. Count the number of of For Lease signs as well. You'll immediately notice, it's all bullshit, these terms mean nothing. We're a second world country we just don't know it yet. Welcome to the Brazil of North America.

My advice buy a gun and some land. Learn to grow your own food.

>> No.16235843

>>16229516
Hold Bitcoin SV, some silver and guns. Some extra food might not hurt.

>> No.16235872

>>16229937
>>16229969
>t. Peter Schiff

>> No.16235893

>>16226487
Ok zoomer

>> No.16235915

>>16234534
The Boogaloo.

>> No.16235955
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfqMCwk_oKU&t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px-YMGGSF3s&t
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePgig4UKqJo&t

>> No.16236106

>>16235814
literally just do both...

>> No.16236142

>>16236106
wow look at richy rich here

>> No.16236152

>>16235824
> my advice
Who the fuck are you?

>> No.16236159

>>16236142
No, I mean hold what you have now and use it to buy property when the market crashes so you can cash in on the halvening and recession twice.

>> No.16236509

>>16235824
>We're a second world country we just don't know it yet.
BASED self aware Mutt
How did you break out of the brainwashing?

>> No.16236969

>>16227197
this

>> No.16237046

>>16228569
and

>> No.16237646

>>16226441
>zerohedge

>> No.16237695

>>16228868
it's been said here before but there is data supporting that graduates from 2008-2012 have been held back for life because of that CV gap
Fuck this whole banking system, can't wait until crypto destroys or significantly changes it

>> No.16237746

>>16228569
Be that as it may, if you were in the markets in the 2010s you more than doubled your money. That was their aim, that is what happened.

>> No.16238633

>>16235824

ouch. hurts to hear that as a brazilian kek. you are not wrong tho.

But hey if you go to small cities in both countries situation gets a lot better at least

>> No.16238688

>>16227270
Something is Definitely happening behind the curtains

>> No.16239530
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>>16238688
Another $77 billion today SO FAR, we'll see if they do another stopgap operation before market open

>> No.16239594

>>16228660
>guaranteed
Anon...

>> No.16239840

>>16226441
We are only 23000000000000 dollars in debt fellow goys. Nothing to see here, get back to work and earn those tax debits.

>> No.16240362

>>16239530
DB is hungry

>> No.16240423

>>16226738
This

>> No.16240581

>>16227270
Explain to a brainlet pls. What is this repo market.

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>>16240581

>> No.16240706

>>16226441
BUUUUUUULLLLLL SHIIIIIIIIT.

Look; adversity is opportunity. Fortune rewards people who keep a calm head when others are losing theirs. And the ability to make quick decisions and capitalise on opportunities as they arise.

Henry Ford established Ford Motor Company at the height of the Great Depression. And as a britfag I'm reminded of the anecdote of the London property developer who would approach bombed-out home owners during the height of the Blitz, offered them the very generous sum of £1000 for the wrecked house (freehold), and made an absolute killing thanks to postwar development.

At the very least you should be relishing the chance to buy the dip. Crash coming? We'll see.

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>>16236152
Jeremiah Babe

>> No.16240844

>>16240834
Lmao he's a hack!

>> No.16240952

>>16240844
he is my favourite doomer boomer

>> No.16240965

>>16240952
If I had ever followed his advice I would have lost money.
He makes some interesting points sometimes.

>> No.16240968

>>16240834
I watch this guy all the time

>> No.16241976

>>16240834
Is he really that good

>> No.16242015

>>16241976
Money GPS is more comprehensive, but babe is ok

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>>16242015
Money GPS is cringy and lame, all the dude does is read verbatim from zerohedge and other conspiracy blogs without any original thoughts or research of his own. Countless other channels are the same, clickbait doomporn.

Check out McAlvany's channel instead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he0mWkMp_oc

>> No.16242864

>>16242015
>>16242084
Watch Peter Schiff and Max Keiser shows

>> No.16243392

>>16242864
Both of them are crazy boomers, but they have good stuff to say usually. Keiser Report can be pretty based https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQmW1ZcPKiAZ2ZP_3naA1kA

>> No.16243439

>>16226441
They’re diversifying into LINK

>> No.16244105

>>16243439
Isn't that the pump and dump scam that was on the news?

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Have this saved for morons like you.

>> No.16244423
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>>16240844
>Blocks ur path

Cryptocucks will never understand how to survive the collapse.

>> No.16244459

>>16240965
His only investment advice is hurr Durr the markets are gonna crater buy metals.

Getting out of debt and making sure you have some cash stowed away are also good things he preaches.

>> No.16244463

>>16227197
This. You should be very divested right now.

>> No.16244480

>>16239530
Elites are offloading their bags preparing for the dump

>> No.16244559

>>16244113
Sure we’ve missed profits by being early, but the day were right it’s Literally over for you

>> No.16244759

>>16244423
See, the problem is hilariously convincing yourself that the loosh machine wouldn't be upended if the conduit to the digital realm was closed.
TPTB will NEVER allow at least the potential for the loosh machine to maintain itself. They need to have the infrastructure in place to keep farming our energy. The internet cannot and will not go out any more than for a few days. The power grid WILL NOT go out for anymore than a couple of days and store shelves, though they may become a bit bare in comparison, will not look like Venezuela. We will never have to hunt for food like you morons are thinking, martial law will be declared (and carried out well enough) before any roving gangs are going to be consolidated and organized.
There will be no fucking giant collapse.
Go play Fallout™ you god damn child. You seem to need a fix.

>> No.16244781

>>16244423
I'm not THAT paranoid. Still good to have some insurance though

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>>16244113
It literally doesn't matter what that chart looks like.
Every decade since the forties has slowly gotten worse and worse. Why in the living fuck do you think we had a war, some bank bailout, or huge years-long scare like y2k or columbine every ten god damn years?
Fucking do the research yourself, brainlet.

What in the fuck is happening here? Is everyone just completely retarded now?
Did shills get slightly better at triggering me or something? What's the fucking deal here?

>> No.16244812

>>16226441
it's no secret the rich have been building bunkers in NZ for what's coming.

>> No.16244960

>>16244480
where will flow their cash?

>> No.16244977
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>>16244812
They're building bunkers because they know 2020 is the end of the timeline they were given.
Shit will go down over the next few years. Collapse (of the world as we know it)? No. The exposure of Truth? Yes.

Here's a short rundown:
Revelations showed us what would happen in an Armageddon situation. The thing is, "the world is ending" is not seen through the proper frame. Instead, it should be viewed through the eyes of the current regime, who's world literally is ending as we speak.
Instead of all of us dying and shit or "getting raptured", we will all learn the truth soon about the Canaanites and the apron-wearing faggots that have long been used as pawns to control our world. They use black sex magick to control us and steal the longevity of the youth for themselves. They will soon be exposed.
Yes, instead of us all dying or some crazy shit about trumpets (TRUMPets), we're all going to wake up, recognize we're divine and a single consciousness, and have an opportunity to "level up", we'll call it.
So, in short, THEIR world is ending, not THE world. What we as simple proles should experience instead is more like a wondrous spiritual awakening, The Great Awakening. What would the world be like, do you imagine, if "money" was no longer the ultimate goal, if everyone wasn't in the wage cage and had time to be creative, let their spiritual side out and pursue their wildest dreams? What do you think would happen if the underworld was found and we reunited with the real humans, the Arianni? Do you imagine what secrets they hold?
What if we were all exposed to the wondrous calm of child-like innocence and wonder? What if our true will was exposed and we could again act in freely?

I think you have the wrong idea, anon. There's been quite a few others like you with the same issue. I hope this helps you all.

>> No.16245002

>>16244977
5/10 schizopasta

>> No.16245026

>>16244977
>literal christcuck
>unironically believing in the scribblings of ULTRA-Low-IQ goat-fucking sandniggers from OVER 2000 YEARS AGO
ngmi

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>>16226441
>>16244977
I'll just leave this here: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-11-13/microsoft-apocalypse-proofs-open-source-code-in-an-arctic-cave

Feels comfy to be a future techno-elite priest.

>> No.16245169

I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR ALL YOU BIG BRAINS OUT THERE.

WHY IS THE PRINTING AND DISTRIBUTION OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS EACH DAY / WEEK NOT HAVING AN EFFECT ON THE USD OR CURRENCY MARKETS ???

SHOULDN'T WE BE SEEING INFLATION IN BILLIONS OF DOLLARS ARE BEING PRINTED TO KEEP BANKS AFLOAT ???

AS SOON AS SOMEONE ANSWERS THIS I'LL BE HAPPY.

>cheers cunts

>> No.16245199

>>16245002
Thank you for validating me!

>>16245026
If anything, I would say more like Esoteric Christian, like a modern version.
Even then, I recognize that Yeshua's teachings were corrupted, his words were minced and truths surrounding him, the era of time, the people he knew and the situations they were in were forged or completely made up.
I recognize that the first half of the traditional texts of Christianity (and especially Catholicism) are simply copied from Hebrew traditional texts. I'm also fully aware that noses conspired to form and disperse the "New Testament" via the Council of Nicea.
You are comprehending very little of what I've said, clearly.

>>16245044
Kek...
Think Hollow Earth.

>> No.16245201

>>16231709
they had some sexy uniforms desu

>> No.16245207

>>16245169
It's pretty simple - they launder ridiculous amounts of money all of the time and the FED is complicit.

>> No.16245230

>>16245169

It is; the current round of QE is essentially being injected straight into the stock market, which is causing the last hurrah you're seeing there. As more and more debt gets monetized, USD will become more and more worthless, essentially leading to hyperinflation in USD terms. Virtually all nation states are doing the same, and so all fiat currencies will revert to their commodity value of zero (or the paper/metal in case of physical bills and coins).

>> No.16245234

>>16245207
I don't understand how this doesn't cause inflation, and devaluation of the dollar... Unless... are you saying that they're holding all this printed cash so it doesn't affect the current supply???

>> No.16245236

>>16245169
dollars strong right now, what that means is its in high demand. if its in high demand then that means assets will lower in USD value as people try to get USD. deflation is bad is people do not need to invest in assets, but simply hold USD. this hurts the economy and people who get taxes off of money changing hands. during deflation you will also see interest rates go to 0 or negative and banks start charging you to hold your money. so people pull from banks which hurts lending. so the governement tries to keep an average of 1.5-2% inflation per year to keep all these things in check

>> No.16245261

>>16245236
why would the dollar be strong and why would people want USD if the fed is printing billions and billions and billions and billions all the time now? Why would anyone want something that is almost in infinite supply at the current time?

>> No.16245269

>>16226738
this lol im 25 and have been putting in 60 hour weeks since about 17 now and i know plenty of others my age did the same

we are just now getting out of a recession and the good times are about to roll

>> No.16245277

>>16245230
Interesting, thanks for this perspective.

>> No.16245312

>>16245269
Spoken like a true zoomer. Do you live in a small town?

>> No.16245340
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>>16245269
Look at historical market data. Index charts are really helpful. Look at the correction in 2008 (along with other ones in decades long gone). It was small in terms of what the next correction will bring.

>> No.16245342

>>16226738
>No one expected 2008
zoomer detected

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>>16245340
>>16245269

The correction that occurred in December of 2018 should have been far more devastating. Look at how fast everything bounced back. That is the magic of QE.

>> No.16245361

>>16245269
Okay, zoomer

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>>16245269
>we are just now getting out of a recession and the good times are about to roll

>> No.16245408

>>16245358
Is there ever going to be a correction or are they just going to keep printing forever

>> No.16245426

>>16245358
It's been 12 months since then, and billions of dollars have been printed since then also, yep everything still seems to be going up, even the currencies which are being printed into infinity aren't losing value..

>> No.16245444

>>16245234
Well in fairness the gov is repoing 120 billion a night, but that's just the principle. Only the actual interest rate of annualized 2.5%/365 days is actually being injected into the money supply each day

>> No.16245461

>>16245261
Because almost every other country is in deeper shit. Ie any business in say China, Iran, or even Germany for that matter wants to buy US bonds because they trust the long-term of the US dollar more than their own currencies

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What's all this talk about repo? You mean like when niggers buy cars they can't afford and some guy shows up with a tow truck? What does that have to do with a financial crisis?

>> No.16245610

>>16245444
>120 billion per day printed
>only 2.5% on/of that is being injected into the open market money supply
How do you know this to be true..? Laws?

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>>16245408
How I see it playing out is this: there will be an entire business cycle (8-11 years) where a controlled "soft landing" will take place. I don't think we will see a brutal drop from the top. Instead, charts will show a negative sloping trend line year after year for the entirety of said business cycle. There will be a few "pops" along the way but a negative sloping trend line overall. People will chimp out and mass chaos will ensue if the plug is pulled and the markets are allowed to run their natural course. Expect QE5, QE6, and QE7 to happen. They'll be the pillows that allow for this "soft landing".

I see the philanthropic work and charitable acts that billionaires are carrying out is an indicator that they feel the pressure. It they truly cared, the giving would be done anonymously in my opinion. But instead they market it like Buffett, Gates, Dalio, and the others do. I would do the same thing were I in their shoes. Control or be controlled, always.

>> No.16245691

>>16245616
Sounds reasonable tbqhwy.

>> No.16245773

People on this board are retards. The 3 month, 10 year yield spread inverted earlier this year. This has a 100% track record in predicting recessions.

We will have a recession sometime between now and 2021. It will be a doozy. QE has lost its effectiveness. 1929 redux.

Will be interesting to see how all these real estate agents and dropshippers fair as bums begging for bread

>> No.16245795

oh look, another parrot >>16245773

you never even heard of the yield curve until this year, retard. i'm glad you'll always be poor.

>> No.16245799

>>16245773
A rising tide raises all boats. A receding tide reveals who had their pants down all along.

>> No.16245807

>>16227171
so what using this logic we can assume deutche will die july 2020? if where detuche is now represents the current date compared to 2008?

>> No.16245844

>>16235824
>We're a second world country we just don't know it yet.

Eurofag, we've been saying this for years.
The only first world countries right now are Denmark, Germany, The Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Luxemburg and Japan.

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b-bros...?

>> No.16245880

>>16245844
What about Iceland, Switzerland and Finland?

>> No.16245888

>>16245863
it has been lower than that

>> No.16245895

>>16245795
Im a multi-millionaire. My business survived 2008. You are a little shit, writing from your mom’s basement.

Buy gold and silver immediately. They will pull it going into the election.

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>>16245863
I like this one more

>> No.16246002

>>16245773
>Will be interesting to see how all these real estate agents and dropshippers fair as bums begging for bread
Every real estate agent I know (even young ones) is making $80K/year MINIMUM, they seem to be doing MUCH better than the average person.

>> No.16246035

>>16226441
>Tyler durden

Stopped reading there

SAGE

>> No.16246061

>>16246002
They are useless operating in a useless profession. Propped up by endless liquidity and low interest rates from the fed.

They will be gutted.

We are a nation of service providers and brokers. We make nothing and consume on credit.

Thank god Im already rich. I am just waiting to feast when this blows.

>> No.16246119

>>16246061
>They (rich real estate agents) will be gutted.
>Thank God I'm rich so I'm gonna be okay
Can't you see the contradiction here?;You're saying one group of people with excess money will be fucked, wallan other group with excess money will be on top of the world..

>> No.16246185

>>16246119
I am rich with a business that will continue to provide income in a recession. I have various streams of income and a great deal in metals, real estate and bitcoin.

Real estate agents are spendthrift retards, tied entirely to the state of the economy.

Watch and learn pleb

>> No.16246217

>>16246119
That's not a contradiction. That's just asset type A is better than B. It's speculation but not even baseless desu. Owning property hasn't got the best track record in recessions. Especially if it's bad property owners tend to get fleeced because that's an asset class you can't move easy.

>> No.16246218

>>16228712
same, but my expiry is shorter.

>> No.16246235

>>16246217
Good god. This board really is full of retards.

Are you all pajeets? Wtf

>> No.16246283

>>16228181
Toodeep4me. Requesting further clarification. What is surety?

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>>16246185
>>16246061
This man is right.

Art imitates life. The Big Short did a great job in depicting the sort of lunkheads that become brokers of real estate when times are good. Like shit attracting flies.

>> No.16246334

>>16240706
This is what I've been trying to tell my friends and my family. They're all panicking and I'm pointing out that there's a huge opportunity that's about to approach.

>> No.16246348

>>16244105
Based af! Link spam on this board is straight cancer

>> No.16246360

>>16228868
2009 grad from top 20 University here. Made 30k out of college and had to suck three dicks to get it

>> No.16246366

>>16244977
Bro take that shit to /X/.

>> No.16246382

>>16245169
fuck your all caps but thank you for asking this question . I read an article about this on Wall Street on Parade a while back and I was wondering the very same thing.

>> No.16246424

>>16240581
The fact is nobody really knows why the repo market is acting up, and that is the scary part. The extent that we know is for some reason banks don't want to lend out money

>> No.16246522

>>16245169
Because the inflation only goes to the rich. The inflation only goes into vaults. It does not go to the common people.

This means that purchasing power of average person in terms of USD stays the sane. If 99% of people have same amount in bank account, and 1% make a trillion, but the 1% just hold that shit, then how can there be inflation?

You DO see inflation in high end assets. Company valuations (stocks). Sportsball teams. Art. Property.

But you don't see it in food, water, etc.

>> No.16247122

>>16246235
property seizure were you're forced to sell under it's real value & taxation above value essentially eating the value away happened both in the past during economic crisis. Property isn't a secure safe haven when shit hits the fan.

>> No.16247227

>>16246522
Demonstrably false, we see inflation in ALL PRODUCTS over time - things cost more than they used to, always, in the long term, always, right?

>> No.16247453

>>16234804
>it's okay that almost no company has seen their profits grow in the least few years, everything is ok, trump/powell said so

>> No.16247923

>>16226441
This is by far the best biz thread I've ever seen. Just wanted to add one point: the establishment loved Bush and Obama, and always wanted to deny any recession. With Trump, they welcome it, so the media will push for bad news as much as possible. But it's harder to invent fake news stories about economic facts and figures, so while they can always create spin, they do need to be somewhat aligned with reality. Therefore under Trump people are more worrisome and cognizant of the upcoming downtrend, because fake news actually wants people to be aware of it this time, instead of unaware.

>> No.16247942

>>16245610

Because it's reality. The interest is what other banks are supposed to get for helping a bank cover its reserve needs. The principle goes back the next day plus the interest. In this case, the money is going back to the fed. It's just being transferred back and forth but, still, the only difference at the end of the transaction is the interest.

>> No.16247998

>>16228569
Thanks for the summary.

>> No.16248011

>>16230158
>>16235872
Jan 2018 was a stock market ATH and Dec 2018 was a bottom in the stock market too. Guess where bitcoin topped and bottomed out too?

>> No.16248017

>>16226441
ohhhhh fuckkkkkkkkkk its going to tankkkkkkkkkk

>> No.16248032

>>16247227

Not if you have a healthy monetary system. What could be bought with 15 cents in 1800 could be bought with 10 cents in 1912.

>> No.16248109

>>16244977
This.

2020 will be more like a paradigm shift than a collapse. Will things become violent and chaotic? Absolutely, but we will witness some crazy shit and if you'll live long enough to have grandkids will have some crazy stories to tell.

>> No.16248111
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>>16246366
>don't talk about that here.
>talk about that in the designated area!
kek
Oh, normies. You never fail, do you?

Wake up, you stupid faggots. Declass comes soon.
I doubt any of you truly have any idea what the hell that even means.

>> No.16248156

>>16248109
>>16248111
Ha! Five seconds before I post that, someone seems to get it...
Good luck, anon.

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This video has a pretty good summary of the repo shenanigans so far https://youtu.be/u9oP17K3RaE

>> No.16248275

>>16245199
You have it completely backward and Marcion would have demolished you in a theological debate. Christianity = NT. Here's a riddle for you: why was Jesus original nickname changed from Chrestos (the benevolent) to Christos (the messiah)?

>> No.16248314

isnt tyler durden the name of the protagonist in fight club???

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>>16242084
Underrated post

McAlvany is one of the best freely available podcasts/channels about business/finance. These guys know their shit and are entertaining to boot. Everyone in this thread should check em out https://youtu.be/iP66S0A08Z4

>> No.16248347

>>16248275
First off, I'm no expert of theology.
Yeshua was a prophet. This was common knowledge.
His most recent form was Nikola Tesla, the Light-Bringer.
I'm not about to study "theology" and I don't care to debate about it. If I wanted to play with clowns and fuck around in funhouses with mirrors all around, I'd go to the god damn circus.

>> No.16248569

>>16248228
Solid video. Over simplified but how else can you get people to grasp the common concepts? Everyone should take a look, in spite of their annoying af subscribe begs

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>>16242864
Speaking of, Keiser Report just dropped a new vid https://youtu.be/3jxDejjKJ20?t=105

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>>16248644
KEK

>> No.16248834

>>16248275
Am curious, why?

>> No.16248949

>>16240706
>Henry Ford established Ford Motor Company at the height of the Great Depression

Lmao what, it was started in 1903

>> No.16249154

>>16240706
>fortune rewards people who already have piles of cash

>> No.16249177

>>16226947
A recession, not a crisis.

And you ignore the feds lockstep I distance on tightening, which is not a factor at this time.

>> No.16249185

>>16249177
there will be a "collapse" that will be cured by bimetal standard as soon as it needs to be.