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[Anonymous No.16191752]

How the fuck do you cure anxiety and depression? I'm not gonna make it bros

[Anonymous No.16191777]

Cbd

[Anonymous No.16191801]

>>16191777
I was prescribed zoloft last week and I couldn't bring myself to take it after getting it from the pharmacy. I wish I could try CBD but it's illegal in my country

[Anonymous No.16191958]

>>16191752
1) Have a purpose
2) Work out HARD
3) Vitamin D
4) Decent sleep
5) Microdose moda Mon to Fri

[Anonymous No.16191969]

>>16191752

You can't "cure" it. You just learn to cope with it. I cope with my anxiety by never leaving the house.

[Anonymous No.16191975]

>>16191752
Just be yourself bro

[Anonymous No.16192001]

>>16191752
Thrive.

[Anonymous No.16192021]

>>16191958
1) Need to find it
2) Currently working on it
3) I'll start taking some
4) My sleep is good most nights
5) Don't have any moda but I have a ritalin prescription, but I stopped taking it, I might start taking it again though.

>>16191969
My cope is video games and 4chan but I feel too guilty about wasting time to unwind and escape from reality. Feels bad man

>>16191975
Good advice anon, I'll give it a go

[Anonymous No.16192029]

You force yourself into uncomfortable situations repeatedly until you learn not to give a fuck about "oh no someone is looking at me" you self absorbed faggot.

Anxiety disorders all stem from narcissism.

But anyway you probably won't listen and will continue to sit indoors playing video games all day and then wonder why you feel alien when you go outside. Do you think things just have no consequences?

[Anonymous No.16192035]

8 fold path bro.

I recommend Sadhguru on youtube for the needful.

[Anonymous No.16192058]

>>16192029
Appreciate the advice. I'm listening. Anxiety stemming from narcissism makes a lot of sense, I'm going to look more into that.

>>16192035
Looking at his channel right now, any particular videos I should see first?

[Anonymous No.16192069]

>>16191958
How come it hasn't worked for you?

[Anonymous No.16192074]

>>16192058
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BV4fU5ukUg

[Anonymous No.16192082]

>>16191958
>>16192029
How come it hasn't worked for you faggots?

[Anonymous No.16192114]

I bought some K to microdose

[Anonymous No.16192128]

>>16191801
Stop taking ssris faggot, you are destroying your brain. Psychedelics are probably your best bet. Look into DMT, you can extract it in your kitchen.

[Anonymous No.16192171]

>>16192058
It's definitely worth looking into. It's not easy to take that advice anyway because naturally you're anxious you want to avoid any situation where you draw attention to yourself, etc, I know because I was there, but you have to force yourself. Kind of like NoFap except harder.
You're probably anxious because you fear being judged negatively in a social situation so to overcome that you force yourself into a situation where it is undeniable that you are being judged negatively just for a short period of time (by being an asshole on purpose in a public place for example) and then after this you realise it doesn't matter until it starts to wear off and then you do it again. Another thing you could try is hard exercise like boxing or sparring even if you don't like it or were never into it. You will feel no anxiety after a fight even if it's not a real one.

[Anonymous No.16192185]

>>16192128
>Recommending potentially life destroying drugs to someone who is anxious and depressed
Yeah, great idea. Psychedelics aren't harmless like you've been led to believe. They can easily push someone over the edge

[Anonymous No.16192195]

>>16192128
This. SSRIs are the ultimate jewpill.
>>16192185
Projecting nigger fuck off. D.A.R.E is propaganda.

[Anonymous No.16192205]

High CBD low THC weed helps me, also do medium LSD sessions once or twice a year.

[Anonymous No.16192209]

oh and more physical activity, running and shit

[Anonymous No.16192212]

Ketamine helped me

[Anonymous No.16192216]

Realise that being depressed doesnt mean you are sick. It is natural feeling which needs to be in you, to be contrast for happy moments. Dont take your life too seriously also, dont worry too much about opinions or expectations of other people, just live your life, invest in Quant to make it. Some psylocibe mushroom twice yearly can help a lot.

[Anonymous No.16192223]

ketamine changes your brain, connects lost neural connections etc and is effective against depression

[Anonymous No.16192225]

>>16192195
Whoever mentioned D.A.R.E? They really can fuck someone's life up and anyone experienced would say the same. Have you ever even taken DMT yourself? Psychedelics aren't the answer at all.

I wouldn't rec a depressed and anxious person to just start ingesting DMT because hey, who knows, maybe he'll have a change of heart?! Maybe he'll ruin his life?! Place your bets!
Stupid fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.16192235]

>>16192171
Why are you spamming your bullshit on here when it doesn't work?

[Anonymous No.16192236]

>>16192235
Worked for me, maybe it will work for someone else

[Anonymous No.16192254]

>>16192225
>>16192236
You actually have the best advice in this thread, but just look into psilocybin for depression. Virtually all clinical trials have been successful. DMT, LSD and other psychs are ehh.
Would explain but am tired.

[Anonymous No.16192266]

>>16192236
>worked for me
>on 4chan on a friday night in a depression thread
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.16192269]

>>16192266
It's 10:30 am Saturday morning faggot

[Anonymous No.16192292]

>>16192185
You are a fucking faggot and part of the problem.

[Anonymous No.16192298]

>>16192292
If you say so. But whatever, eat all the drugs you want lol that will definitely solve all of your problems and it's soo coool, maaan

[Anonymous No.16192308]

>>16191752
Carnivore
Sun (at least 1 hour a day no sunscreen)
Vitamin D (if you can't get enough sun, supplement this. 10 000IU a day)
Physical activity (15minute walk will do a lot!)
Limit drugs (including caffein, fucks up sleep)
Sleep (wake up and go to bed same time every day)

This is unironically all you need. If you're still a fucked up pussy after 3 months of this you either kill yourself with suicide or you go to the doctor

[Anonymous No.16192325]

Get enlightened and realise reality is all an illusion.

[Anonymous No.16192329]

Eurovital Gaba helps me a lot, still autistic less anxious though.

[Anonymous No.16192337]

>>16192298
>implies every drug is the same
Psychedelics played a huge role in my development and they made me a better person.

[Anonymous No.16192339]

Look at the pyramid of basic needs or whatever its called. Main meeds are food, place to live etc. Then there's some caring stuff. Basically get your own living place, then find a gf, then make money(self actualisation or whatever the fuck the top of the pyramid was called). Since I can't get my own place without slaving, I'm stuck at waiting for LINK to get to $30 so I can /make it/.

[Anonymous No.16192362]

>>16192337
Never implied that really. I just don't think you should take psychedelics from a place of depression and anxiety. Psychedelics being "harmless" is a literal meme. There are tens of thousands of people that kill themselves as a direct result of taking them, they just don't overdose.
>Beware of unearned wisdom

[Anonymous No.16192408]

>>16192362
I know they arent harmless but youll learn more of a "bad trip" then of a good one most of the time. And please link me the statistics that show how many people killed themselves because of psychs.

I stand by my tip, if OP is seriously eyeing the idea of killing himself as many of our frens before him, he should get himself some DMT or shrooms to blast himself into outer space first, if he still wants to kill himself after he realises that everyhthing is only one big cosmic joke then so be it. Ssris will not help him, they will only destroy his brain so the situation gets bearable.

[Anonymous No.16192414]

It was proven that depression and anxiety is caused by bad/wrong gut bacteria. Try to take pre- and probiotics and cure your gut

[Anonymous No.16192424]

>>16192408
Source: I saw it while tripping

[Anonymous No.16192429]

>>16192424

[Anonymous No.16192436]

>>16192029
> Anxiety disorders all stem from narcissism

No, some anxiety stems from child abuse and bad parents

[Anonymous No.16192454]

Lose weight and start lifting, eat a plant based diet (you'll need B12 and D supplements). Go to the doctor and get a blood test.

And this should be a last resort only: if nothing seems to work and you're already at a normal weight, look into steroids/TRT (if you don't mind the side effects such as infertility).

[Anonymous No.16192465]

>>16192429

[Anonymous No.16192473]

>>16192454
>eat a plant based diet
>eat a carnivore diet
>scientists on either side
>personal testimony on either side
>government supports one diet
>but government is evil
>corporations support another diet
>but corporations are evil
wat do?

[Anonymous No.16192480]

>>16192473
Eat a Kosher diet

[Anonymous No.16192501]

>>16192480
Oh look, he was a jidf shill all along

[Anonymous No.16192503]

>>16192480
Literally this, with joos you win.

[Anonymous No.16192504]

>>16192501
I'm a Goy that eats a Kosher diet. Problem?

[Anonymous No.16192507]

>>16192035
>>16192074
why aer you posting 2d bitches across 8fold path info?

[Anonymous No.16192516]

Microdose Psylocibin .40 is the sweet spot for me...go 5 days on take 2 days off. Research Paul Stamets

[Anonymous No.16192532]

>>16192269
>he doesn't understand the concept of timezones
Keep coping with your self help bullshit.

[Anonymous No.16192542]

>>16192308
So when are you going to livestream your suicide? Since it hasn't worked for you.

[Anonymous No.16192743]

>>16192424
Why don’t trippers ever consider that the illusions they see take place inside their head and not inside another dimension?

[Anonymous No.16192959]

>>16192128
Retard
>>16191801
Try taking your meds senpai. Even if only for a few months

[Anonymous No.16192965]

>>16192436
>No, some anxiety stems from child abuse and bad parents
this. forget all the meme advice and find a good therapist.

[Anonymous No.16193530]

>>16191801
>>16192128

Redpill me on SSRIs

I've been on sertraline for more than a year now

[Anonymous No.16193550]

I stay busy and try not to think about it

[Anonymous No.16193563]

>>16191752

Diazepam 10mg

[Anonymous No.16193568]

Depressed and anxious bro here. For me it’s the porn. Been trying to quit for 7 years and still cant do 90 days. Every time I’m jerking to porn a lot, I’m in a zombie state of mine without much brain being used. Once I stop for a few weeks withdrawals start hitting and then I eventually relapse. When I’m not watching it for awhile, things always go legit. But for some reason still slip back. Shits ruthless bros.

[Anonymous No.16193582]

mindfulness practice.
exercise.
rhodiola rosea.
literally all you need

[Anonymous No.16193743]

sit down with yourself and set your intentions for your life.
cardio
10 minutes of focused breathing or meditating/day
constantly put yourself in uncomfortable situations.
realize and acknowledge that those uncomfortable situations didn’t kill you and you had the strength within you to get through them.
lift heavy weights.
sunlight or vit d
motherfucking ZMA before bed
no booze
meats nuts and leafy greens in your diet.
do things for other people.

[Anonymous No.16193845]

>>16191752
Know Christ

[Anonymous No.16193860]

>>16191752
Learn to live forever:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDEBz25lGdY

[Anonymous No.16193919]

>>16193743

but drinking is fun

[Anonymous No.16194144]

>>16193743
>do things for other people
and
>begome gadolic

[Anonymous No.16194377]

>>16192414

expand on that. is my biosalud every morning good enough?

[Anonymous No.16194380]

>>16192743
Because a lot of us encounter the same visuals and entities

[Anonymous No.16194408]

>>16191752
Yoga helps a lot.

[Anonymous No.16194481]

>>16191752
Just work out and pay attention to your instincts.

[Anonymous No.16194629]

>>16191752
Just get a gf, that worked for me
>How do i into gf
Jus bee urself :)

[Anonymous No.16194653]

>>16191752
read Carl Jung

[Anonymous No.16194663]

>>16191752
I have pretty bad anxiety and what I think is depression. I don't want to go get an actual diagnosis because I don't want to know what's wrong with me honestly.

I haven't really found a "cure" but I find things I can change in my daily routine that give me more energy. Little by little each week I notice a change over time. Going outside and walking for a few minutes, getting an income, going back to school, forcing yourself to do things you don't want to do, cutting down on sugar and drinking more water, getting in good sleep habits. These won't "cure" anything you have but they will certainly improve your life even if it's by a small margin. The little things add up OP, and long term problems are always death by a thousand cuts. Just like you didn't wake up one day with depression you won't get rid of it faster than you got it probably.

[Anonymous No.16194718]

>>16192216
Lmao quant shill in the middle

[Anonymous No.16194845]

>>16192216
>That smooth transition to quant shilling

[Anonymous No.16194864]

Fuck if i know, been depressed af since i lost all my money in april on bitmex, fucking nigger arthur

[Anonymous No.16194888]

Mindfulness practice - use headspace 10 free days for free then do it on your own.

Eat healthy. Whatever you want, just be healthy. High protein and veggies.

Work out bro. Leg day, chest/tri, back/bi. Work up to almost every day of the week. Take 5g creatine daily to see results quicker/boost confidence faster.

Micro dose lsd or shrooms SUB-PERCEPTIBLY.

Bonus happiness hax: Hydrate af, journal daily, buy link

[Anonymous No.16194908]

Forgot- don’t drink fucking booze. Alcohol is the ENEMY. 2-3 drinks MAX in social situations.

[Anonymous No.16194925]

>>16191752
I'm really tired of hearing you pathetic frogfags whine.

[Anonymous No.16194946]

>>16191801
I took celexa for 6 years and it helped at first but not as much near the end. Is been a year since, thinking of trying zoloft instead this time. I took it before for a couple months and it was helping but then I went back to drugs instead

[Anonymous No.16194960]

Cook a meal for your family and friends

[Anonymous No.16194966]

>>16192128
>>16192185
psychedelics if you're already suffering from bad anxiety can really fuck you up bad. like end up seeing things for years or acting violent. and avoid heavy amph abuse too

[Anonymous No.16194968]

>>16194925
>hates frogs
>spends time on /biz/
go back

[Anonymous No.16194973]

>>16192074
>1 fold path: milkies

[Anonymous No.16194986]

>>16192414
ocd nutrition fags are worse than vegans

[Anonymous No.16194995]

>>16194968
I've been here longer than you, you worthless self-hating piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.16194997]

>>16193582
I tried rhodiola years ago and it didn't do shit.
Tried again recently and damn if it isn't working great. Then later I added Ashwaghanda and it is very effective too.

Also agree with the other anon about caffeine; I cut coffee out for a month and it made way more difference than I expected. Now I limit it to a couple times a week and only if I'm feeling good mentally.

[Anonymous No.16195002]

>>16193530
You are slowly lobotomizing yourself.

[Anonymous No.16195023]

>>16194380
kind of. if I told you enough times before you tripped you'd see a specific thing you'd probably think of it during the trip and see it. like mckennas dmt elves meme. or whatever jewy/sandnog memes. People raised in hindu or Buddhist cultures from birth don't seem to see the same entities a western christian does

[Anonymous No.16195046]

>>16194925
>>16194995
>healthy well adjusted normalfag hangs out on /biz/
Why?
go back

[Anonymous No.16195055]

>>16195002
increasing serotonin isn't lobotomizing though. And better than laying in bed too miserable to function

[Anonymous No.16195083]

>>16191752
Just become insane
It eats away at the depression and the anxiety just fuels further insanity
You won't even care that everything is on fire, most likely because you'll be setting fire to everything

[Anonymous No.16195092]

>>16191752
Please go out, fren. Open up to someone close to you. Last but not least, workout. Run around your complex. You'll feel better.

Hope you are better, fren.

[Anonymous No.16195128]

>>16194966
You're a special kind of npc aren't you? You're confusing that with schizophrenia and psychosis

[Anonymous No.16195197]

>>16195055
>redpill me on this
>no don't tell me the downsides of this

[Anonymous No.16195259]

Clean your room

[Anonymous No.16195385]

>>16195128
major depression is more than being sad because you can't get laid

[Anonymous No.16196110]

>>16191752
researching chainlink cured my depression, no joking. youre letting the next ETH ride right by you

[Anonymous No.16196178]

youtube.com/watch?v=Q5Wtr404l5A

[Anonymous No.16196195]

>>16191752
How much time out of the day do you spend staring at screens?

[Anonymous No.16196431]

You just have to make enough money that you can buy your own property and don't have to depend on anyone.

[Anonymous No.16196702]

Was on Effexor for like 3 years, xans, alcohol, just to sleep n go to work cause of anxiety and depression. Quit my job and all is gone for a while, now I have anxiety about the future and no job, no gf and 100 LINK. I don't think I'm gonna make it.

[Anonymous No.16196788]

>>16191752

Do No-Fap, eat a clean diet without processed foods, exercise and max out your vitamin D3, B12 and B-Complex vitamins.

[Anonymous No.16197838]

>>16191752
Here’s one that others haven’t mentioned yet. Try L-tyrosine 1 gram daily.
It’s an amino acid naturally occurring in the body so you’re not eating some Pharmajew drug.
It’s a pre-cursor to Serotonin.
I know they use it in the Military to stay alert during times of stress especially sleep deprivation.
All I can say is it works for me, went from Citalopram to this because I didn’t feel like it was working anymore or that I really needed it.

This and a good diet and exercise.
Think about animals existing as they are supposed to in nature, eating what they’re meant to eat..
They don’t come down with random ass self inflicted diseases, they don’t mope around depressed as fuck.

In my opinion diet is 90% of the problem with us, why we are all fucked up.

At least try paleo, I know it’s hard sometimes but if you commit to it and exercise, get outdoors etc I’d be surprised if you weren’t feeling a lot better within a few weeks/months.

Don’t use SSRI’s as a crutch, go all the way to the root of the problem and fix things there

[Anonymous No.16197854]

get a hobby or two, preferably a social one. I guarantee if most of you faggots joined a sports club you wouldn't be miserable all the time.

[Anonymous No.16197855]

>>16191752

Depression is a permanent change in the state of the mind

Anxiety can be managed with drugs or apathy

[Anonymous No.16197880]

>>16197838
Also take up a new hobby to shift your focus from your worry’s.
This might sound weird but consider taking up archery and bow hunting.
There’s a lot of technique and discipline involved, a perfect distraction and extremely satisfying.
You’ll open up ancient neural pathways you didn’t know existed, as a man it’s very much in our DNA to hunt and provide for our tribe.
These are some things I know helped me.

Good luck OP

[Anonymous No.16197889]

>anxiety
Boxing classes - or any martial art where you spar frequently.
>depression
Go to the gym frequently enough to be too tired to be depressed. I go every day

[Anonymous No.16197955]

>>16192532

>wahh what do I do I need advice

>*gets advice*

>noo not that advice wahh

fuck off

[Anonymous No.16197968]

I wake up more tired that I went to bed - exhausted every morning and it never gets better.

Tried changing diet, don't drink (alcohol or caffeine), exercise daily, Vit D. NOTHING helps. Any suggestions?

[Anonymous No.16197974]

>>16191752
OP READ THIS!!!!! AND EVERYONE WITH DEPRESSION AND AXIETY READ THIS PLEASE!!!!!
www dot nature dot com slash articles slash d42859 - 019 - 00021 - 3
Its a fucking nature review about gut flora. I am scientist btw.

What it tell is: your gut flora defines you mind state.What you eat defines you gut flora. So just eat fermented food and stop eating at mcdonalds and other places where they pour anti-bacterial substances at everything, you are killing you gut flora and fucking with your mind.
I been out of depression and anxiety by eating sauerkraut and drinking koombucha, hope this helps you. I already tried to kill myself by drinking large quantities of alcohol, I am ok now. Also try to condition you mind to have good thoughts and not to have bad thoughts, try to think positive always, if things fails be resilient, things go wrong more times then they go right. Don't take the easy way out, if you plan on doing that go on a killing-spree before, kill everyone you are sure is bad element to society.

[Anonymous No.16197994]

>>16197974
It's gut bacteria for sure
Take probiotics

[Anonymous No.16198004]

>>16191752
nofap

[Anonymous No.16198006]

>>16197994
Btw, when I take things like yakult my mind gets retarded, there are probiotics that are bad for me, but it really makes me happy when I drink koombucha(fermented tea) and eat sauerkraut. It is something really strange, I just start to naturally smile at everything.

[Anonymous No.16198011]

There's no way of "curing" it. Depression simply means being awakened to the reality of life. You can cope by drinking or doing drugs but it's not gonna make the truth any more pleasant.

[Anonymous No.16198025]

Venlafaxine helped me a ton. I was scared of retrying an SSRI/SNRI after being zombified by Zoloft years prior, but venlafaxine doesn't make me feel drugged. It curbed my panic disorder and turned the ANTs down a few notches.

[Anonymous No.16198056]

>>16191969
ironic as the cope is what is causing it / keeping you stuck in it

[Anonymous No.16198063]

>>16191752
>How the fuck do you cure anxiety and depression? I'm not gonna make it bros
you just keep trying to find a solution, and don't stop until you do

suicide is an inherent fear that kicks in when you consider that you have all these problems in your life, but you can't solve any of them
because you can't solve any of them, the problem gets overwhelming worse to the point where the only solution is to die (i.e. forget about the problems)

too bad this isn't the real world and generally those problems will just become someone else's problems (most of the time it's someone closely related to you)

the only way to beat life is find a way around your problem. can you jump over it? deal with it later? work harder to fix it?
figure it out bud, you're no different than us faggot

[Anonymous No.16198076]

anyone some advice how to get rid of a soulless into the nothing stare and dead inside facial expression? i mean i do all kinds of shit to better myself but i cant change that by any force. people are freaking out by this - how the fuck do you fix this. concentrating to not do it makes it worse

[Anonymous No.16198117]

>>16198076
go skydiving
go camping
go work at a customer service job (and try to excel at it)
try smiling in the mirror every morning and constantly doing it (don't fake smile, try to naturally get into smiling; slowly you'll have a big smile)

[Anonymous No.16198140]

>>16191752
Just dont be sad

[Anonymous No.16198161]

>>16191752
have sex. unironically ive found if i have a regular thing going with someone who isn't a brainlet or roastie it helps. also working out regularly helps.

[Anonymous No.16198178]

>>16194888
CHECKED

[Anonymous No.16198370]

you can treat depression microedosing LSD, I was in a dark place before taking it.

Its like be born again even if its just a microdose

[Anonymous No.16198400]

>>16192128
How the fuck do you get your hands on DMT? Dealers won't sell that shit, and the only other method I've heard of was ordering an extremely expensive bark

[Anonymous No.16198419]

>>16198400
You torture a child till near death and cut out its pineal gland before it actually dies

[Anonymous No.16198452]

>>16192480

[Anonymous No.16198562]

>>16198370
Where do I get it?

[Anonymous No.16198589]

>>16191752
no matter what motivation fags say, if you have true anxiety and clinical depression you may find moments of some comfort and okayness but it'll never fully leave. Only normie faggots say theirs has completely vanished. Healthy living and being social can help keep it at bay, drugs can help short term but is a never ending loop. Good luck bro

[Anonymous No.16198625]

eventually your spirit becomes so broken you can't go any lower and you stop giving a fuck and it gets better.

[Anonymous No.16198643]

>>16198625
>it gets better.
It didn't for you though.

[Anonymous No.16198892]

>>16197968
How often are you looking at screens?

[Anonymous No.16199195]

>>16191752
if youre a weak person youre going to be abused and victimized...always, thats how life works

if you are in abusive relationships with people and try to deny it you will suffer from depression and panic attacks and have to take cocktails of pills to cope. Im glad to see some people in this thread not going the pill route but its still just coping with abusive relationships and you will never experience true happiness in your life

[Anonymous No.16199208]

>>16198419
Calm down Epstein

[Anonymous No.16199488]

>>16198400
>€25 is expensive

[Anonymous No.16200277]

Look up and Try Sun Gazing ... it works wonders and its free.

[Anonymous No.16200299]

>>16191958
>5) Microdose moda Mon to Fri
lmao get on my 200mg twice a day level faggit

[Anonymous No.16200497]

>>16191752
nofap, exercise and for the love of god stop drinking

[Anonymous No.16200543]

>>16191752
RAW unpasteurized milk. Also probiotics. It will take time to heal your gut health. Look up gut health anxiety connection

[Anonymous No.16200653]

same problem buddy