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There’s a ton of reasons to be bullish on Nano’s future. Here are just a few:

1) the protocol itself has become far more robust and battle tested since you left, and is continually growing stronger and more spam resistant

2) new exchanges will continue to be added (this is the result of a change in v19 that made it easier for exchanges to integrate). Side note, Kraken is a big deal because it allows people to go directly from fiat to Nano and vice versa. This has always been a barrier to entry because BTC/ETH was previously needed as an extra step on major exchanges.

3) Kappture is a medium-sized payment company out of UK that recently implemented native crypto payments into their existing terminals, exclusively Nano payments, and that integration goes live this month. Merchants will be able to “flip the switch” and accept Nano if they want to.

4) Appia is an easy to use plug-and-go crypto payment processor that will be available soon for merchants to accept crypto payments. Developed by Nano devs.

5) Big picture thoughts. Chart is looking pretty juicy for a trend reversal. Nano has just broken above the 100 day moving average on the daily. Sell pressure has seemed to finally have leveled off from the initial $37 mooning from 2017. It makes sense that Nano would have tanked from that kind of rapid price increase especially when you consider the entire supply was thrown into the wild for free and made a lot of people very rich very quickly. Where we are now is an incredible buy in opportunity when you consider the development and ecosystem has grown tremendously over that same period of price correction from 2017-2019.

>> No.16151744

>>16151623
This has been one of my long-term holds for these reasons.

Nano $10 EOY

>> No.16151779

>>16151623
>Lightning Network is ready for widespread use

>Nano loses every reason to exist

>> No.16151837

>>16151779
Even lightning is slower than NANO.

Also, you can't forget fees. Lightning has them as well.

>> No.16151844

>>16151779
Lightning Network is flawed from the get-go: you need to run HARDWARE, and you need to run it CONSTANTLY lest you lose funds, and you can only use it through CHANNELS meaning that sending money from person A to person B is not guaranteed. It's full of exposed security holes as well.

No, LN will never be adopted.

>> No.16151863

>>16151837
Prove its slower. Also, the fees will be negligible so people don't give a shit.

>> No.16151881

>>16151844
>Lightning network can never be improved on! The devs will never fix its problems! Bitcoin will never find another second layer!

>> No.16151886

>>16151863
Let me sum it up: even if the Lightning Network was not a security & usability mess (which it is), running custom hardware is GAY

>> No.16151903

>>16151881
The best way to "improve" the Lightning Network is ditch it altogether, but I strongly doubt that they will do it because it kinda hurts dignity. Yes, another (less gay) second layer would do, but again, they seem to want to stick to LN because acknowledging mistakes is hard

>> No.16151905

>>16151886
People run hardware anyway, you know? Typical subjectivist: if *I* don't like it, that means nobody else should!

It's security doesn't matter so long as the base layer is uneffected. People use this for payments, not for storing their entire wealth.

>> No.16151924

>>16151863
>>16151881
nano's fundamentals are good enough it doesnt have to beat BTC it has its own use cases. normies will also gobble it up seeing how cheap it is compared to BTC.

>BTC is worth $67,000 in 2020
>There's another one on Coinbase worth $11

>> No.16151930

>>16151903
>Assumes base layer devs will operate in a manner that undermines Bitcoin. The Bitcoin devs. Some of most brilliant minds in the world.

Genius.

>> No.16151957

>>16151905
>It's security doesn't matter so long as the base layer is uneffected
Bitcoin Lightning Network, where security doesnt matter and microfees are everywhere.
Or just use NANO where security is 100% and there are are no fees and no hardware requirements for participation.

>> No.16151989

>>16151779
Even if you put aside all the security and UI problems that LN has, it still depends on the main chain to open/close channels. So, only 7 channels per second can be open/closed IF nobody is using the main chain for regular transactions at the same time.

LN is a clusterfuck that will never work.

>> No.16151995

>>16151905
>People run hardware anyway, you know?
But it's absolutely faggy hardware, it's based on HOT WALLETS meaning that your funds get lost once the connections goes down. Besides, it's based on channels that must be open between familiar parties. This model is absolutely unsuitable for web micropayments, it will never do. LN is already inferior by design (and purely on top of that, full of security holes in implementation)

>> No.16152006

OP forgot to mention that Nano is the perfect coin for gaming. Fast and feeless microtransactions has ton of aplications.

>> No.16152311

>>16151744
Kek my dollar cost average is around $1.60. $10 per nano will allow me to take a year off.

Compare nano on a log chart to Bitcoin, this shits going over $100

>> No.16152402

all these points may be valid it doesnt mean the price will go up

>> No.16152486

>>16152311
get on my level i bought in at 70 cent

>> No.16152743
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omg @ this pump, I am gonna coom!

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>>16151623
I'm not going to read any of this, can you instead just tldr what nano actually does instead of posting copy pasta from r*ddit and shitting it out here

>> No.16152852
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>>16152769
instant, zero fees, decentralized, eco-friendly, fully distributed, zero inflation, no mining, open representative voting model for consensus (300 current nodes, max of 1000, each requires 00.1% of network votes to achieve representative status, 1 nano = 1 vote. No locking or staking required), 133,000,000 total supply, devs retained 5%, currently only have 2.5% left. Initial supply was distribution by captcha, no ICO, no tokens were sold. Light weight data transfers and only minimal information stored for sub 1 second fully confirmed txs while keeping the ledger unbloated. No smart contracts as that would massively increase data required and slow down the network, possibly incur fees, and limit tx/s. Smart computing can be done on second layers if needed, such as a simple website operating with the nodes via a script to send/receive upon input (like how a wallet works)

>> No.16152879

>>16151623
Right except the DPoS model is inherently flawed seeing as the transactions are “free”. Nano has literally stated they rely on “hobbyist and academics” to uphold the chain - this is what happens when you offer no monetary incentive to do so. You’re entire network is upheld by neckbeards and incel academics. Hard pass

>> No.16152902

>>16152879
What you think is a weakness is actually Nano's greatest strength. Businesses that use Nano have a full incentive to strengthen the network. We already see this with Binance and Kappture nodes. Kappture is dishing out vending machines that are prebuilt at the hardware level to accept either fiat or Nano. They found no other cryptocurrency fit their needs enough to also include. These are just two of many of which who currently exist, not to mention those that will join in to secure their asset, investment, or token that they utilize.

>> No.16152922

>>16152769
>he doesn't know nano
What the hell? There are people who came into crypto AFTER the 2017 bullrun?

>> No.16152946

>>16152922
why would i waste my time researching something that will probably have no impact on the crypto market, when i could of just bought chainlink instead knowing full well im going to make it?

>> No.16152978

>>16152486
Get on my level I got into this at .40

>> No.16153018

584 nano coin... will I make it?

>> No.16153034

>>16153018
To put that into perspective, 133 NANO is 21 BTC in supply.
So thats 92 BTC in supply. You gonna make it if you play it right.

>> No.16153054

>>16152946
You wouldn't have to research anything, this pumped 100x in the 2017 bullrun, everyone talked about it. Just how new are you, newfag?

>> No.16153220

825 nano... will I make it?

>> No.16153332

>>16153054
This actually pumped 3000X in the 2017 bull.

>> No.16153490

>>16153220
You'll do fine, maybe get to 1k

>> No.16153699
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>>16151623
Nano was pushed by sociopathic devs, lying about 7000 TPS Dec 2017, pic, and Italian scammers at Bitgrail. Due to the incestuous relationship, devs and their friends got 15 million USD out of Bitgrail, as admitted on Nano discord, while normal retail investors were stuck and lost 170 million USD.

VISA is calibrated for 60 000 TPS due to peaks like emergency catastrophe, holidays like Christmas etc. What is Nano's real TPS now? 130 according to last spam test. Or 250 from last summers test? No way in hell can Nano have the tech to be a global micro-payment system. Even if you did, let's say you managed to have the minimum TPS for a global micro-payments system, 100 000 TPS, what would the enormous costs for bandwith, CPU and IO be? Have you crazy Nano fanatics or your scammer devs ever done the cost analysis? Remember that your whole crazy and dysfunctional business model is that all that costs and work must be done by volunteers fro free for all eternity with no downtime ever. Nano is a dead project with sociopathic and borderline criminal devs and a crazy cult-like fanbase. Worst in crypto.

>> No.16153728

get
off
of
my
board
reddit
faggot

you bought a shitcoin after it pumped 500,000%... well guess what? it dumped 98% after.

you are the greater fool.

your money will not come back.

you lost crypto. sorry, better luck next time.

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>>16151623
>>16153699
Real TPS summer 2018, not the 7000 TPS they lied about Dec 2017. Today Nano crashes if they go over 500 BPS. There is no way Nano can be a global currency for micro-payments with those numbers. Totally delusional and very dishonest.

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>>16151623
While retail investors were stuck with frozen accounts and maintenance, devs and their friends had no problem to move assets out of Bitgrail before the exchange collapsed. Pic.

>> No.16153782
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>>16151623
While retail investors were stuck for months to get verification before Bitgrail collapsed, friends of the devs had no such problem.

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>>16151623
Dev Zack Shapiro, just days before the collapse of Bitgrail.

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>>16151623
(((Zack Shapiro)))

>> No.16153833
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>>16151623
Tragic incompetence

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>>16151623
Much of the post-Bitgrail Nano community came from Bitconnect

>> No.16153863

>>16153220
yes

>>16152978
how did you not lose it all on bitgrail

>> No.16154012

>>16153863
Get this:

I took it off of the exchange. Odd fucking strategy, I know...

>> No.16154031

>>16153861
That's not even close to true retard

>> No.16154050
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>>16153699
>Have you crazy Nano fanatics or your scammer devs ever done the cost analysis?
Worse, in the latest interview, Colin lied through his teeth and said that running a node will only cost a few bucks, so that would not be a problem. Clearly it is very deceitful to use the costs for a network with virtually no use whatsoever, when answering how a system based on volunteers taking ALL the costs for free for nothing, when/if Nano is global and is used for micro-payments.

Worse, in the interview he again was so stupid that he insisted that the average TPS of PayPal was the correct benchmark, ignoring that PayPal does not engage in micro-payments, like a coffee, does not bank the unbanked and last but not least, average is totally insane as a payment system must be calibrated to handle peaks, like Christmas or emergency situations. He clearly has no understanding of basic micro economics. A dev from Nano was here some months ago and posted the same nonsense. Very soon he disappeared and the very dishonest Nano community flagged all my posts, with zero attempt of any kind of rebuttal.

More about Nano here:
Dangerous flaws and major problems with Nano
http://archive.is/diUnZ


Nano Heading for Disaster – Dirty Deals with BitGrail
http://archive.is/GGWIG

Nano and Bitgrail leaders scammed over $100 million from Bitgrail
http://archive.is/zAtyl

>> No.16154051

>>16153863
i got mine off and put it in cold storage before bomber did his thing.
A lot of people got out, those who held got rekt

>> No.16154075
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>>16154031
>That's not even close to true retard
Time for you to buy 500K Nano, pic related.

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>>16151623
god this is beautiful
what if this is fernando trying to get us to buy his bags
or worse
it's colin trying to pay his bills

>> No.16154134

>>16154076
They've got the dev funds to pay for everything related to NANO.

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>>16154031
>That's not even close to true retard
Paypal will use Nano any moment, same with all the global central banks, right? And BoA. Just as you Nanoids have spammed again and again, pic related.

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>>16154031
>>16154210
PayPal

>> No.16154287
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Just as Nano, DAG is:
>Free
>Instant
>Green
However, they are superior to Nano in virtually every way.
>Part of a large ecosystem, with real use cases that will provide security for the network and world-wide market. Same as IOTA, but better
>This large ecosystem and not solely a currency will provide protection from Central Bank regulators, like ETH & IOTA, but unlike Nano.
>All zero-fee systems are open to spam attacks. Constellation has a much more advanced and elegant solution than Nano with their reputation system.

>> No.16154300 [DELETED] 

>>16154287
Constellation (DAG) will go to top 10 on CoinMarketCap. Just watch this 30 min interview with the man behind Hello Kitty, one of the most successful brands and marketing operations in history, who is now cooperating with and supporting Constellation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGVpdNSLp54

Ray Hatoyama has a proven record of:
1. Sniffing out superb projects with global potential
2. Bringing projects to global dominance

DAG will 1000x. Currently it is still cheap with a market cap of only 50% of the startup capital they raised pre-sale.

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>>16154287
Constellation (DAG) will go to top 10 on CoinMarketCap. Just watch this 30 min interview with the man behind Hello Kitty, one of the most successful brands and marketing operations in history, who is now cooperating with and supporting Constellation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGVpdNSLp54 [Embed]

Ray Hatoyama has a proven record of:
1. Sniffing out superb projects with global potential
2. Bringing projects to global dominance

DAG will 1000x. Currently it is still cheap with a market cap of only 50% of the startup capital they raised pre-sale.

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>>16154287
Despite being a tech startup, they already have a commercial contract with USAF. There is no other blockchain outside DAG that is designed to handle big data. If the USAF contract goes well, they will provide to the whole US military. For a tech startup company to get such a deal, so quickly, is unheard of. It's a very strong signal to the market of both the projects and the teams quality. That alone will give DAG a MCAP of 100M USD.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/darrynpollock/2019/09/20/usafs-blockchain-interest-shows-technologys-power-to-secure-data/#3b922b537cef

>> No.16154347

>>16153728
You can't stop NANO.
We have 50,000 members going strong. How many does your shitcoin have?

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>>16154287
Constellation Network engages with Chainlink to become a node operator on the Chainlink network, to provide smart contracts with access to real-world streaming data from Constellation’s enterprise clients, and to provide validation for streaming data. The integration, explained in the recently released paper, “Oracalizing Big Data on Distributed Ledger Technology” outlines how Constellation will become an oracle node on the Chainlink Platform.

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/constellation-network-integrates-with-chainlink-to-bring-big-data-solutions-to-distributed-ledger-technology-300939390.html

>> No.16154363

>>16154287
>>16154323
>>16154343
Constellation pump is over bro, it's not going any higher. Get in something that doesnt have a huge green dildo.

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>>16154287
DAG team member Benjamin Jorgen is working with Portland State University on the worlds first accredited Blockchain certificate program.

This is a business focused program on accelerating learnings around business adoption of distributed ledger technology. https://www.pdx.edu/sba/blockchain

Due to our market impact and technology focus, Constellation is in the preliminary talks of becoming part of the PSU board of advisors.

The reason this is important is because for us to have a connection to a governing board at a leading university in the Blockchain space, it will only increase Constellation’s ability to have a seat at the table to influence Enterprise business adoption. This is yet another deposit in the validity of our team and overall company focus to be a trusted partner that’s in this for the long haul.

https://youtu.be/6BNk9wdcuGY

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>>16154363
Fair market cap is way above Nano. Lot's of room to go further.

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>>16154287
Constellation founders burned all their DAG tokens. How is that for showing the community their commitment to the project?

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>>16154287
DAG is less than 1/2 of pre-sale and still insanely cheap. More about Constellation (DAG) technology here:

Tech Gem Solves DAG Centralization: Bye IOTA Bye Hedera. Enter Constellation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyXu-CX33-c

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>>16154287
Finally we have a CEO in crypto space that actually knows how to do business.

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>>16154287
Even former president Obama is following the CEO of Constellation on twitter, that is clearly a signal of the potential it has, with high level individuals taking interest and potentially wanting in.

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>>16154287
Constellation's (DAG) lead dev is a genius, pic.
To get a commercial USAF contract for a tech start-up company, is insanely rare and sign of big future success. It also reflects the professionalism , tech, and stamina of the team. 18M market cap is nothing. DAG will 1000x.

>> No.16154509

>>16154399
>>16154405
>>16154428
>>16154437
>>16154455
shoo satsgang shoo

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>>16154509
>shoo satsgang shoo
I have nothing to do with them. Never heard about them, as I am not on Telegram, before Raphael went nuts as usual.

>> No.16154569

>>16154455
wut, the entire USAF pilot program is for small businesses ie startups.
and looking like a nerd does not make one a genius, cringe pic. I'm not a DAG hater but weak shill attempt is weak.

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>>16154569
>and looking like a nerd does not make one a genius
Who said you should only look at pics to determine whether or not he is a wiz kid? Here:

Constellation Wyatt Talk USC Los Angelese
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByhniOgyVVU

>> No.16154912

These DAG shills are pathetic.