Help me biz

[Anonymous No.16080660]

I took adderall for the first time recently, and I'm still taking in how amazing it is. Literally the magic pill from Limitless.

>start and finish tasks in one sitting
>genuinely enjoy the intellectual stimulation of my work
>totally at ease, mind wiped clear of any anxieties. "I have a plan and I'm going to execute it" type mentality.
>feel like a fucking boss, talking to people is a breeze and way more fun than it usually is.
>got like 2 girls numbers one day just for the fuck of it, I never considered cold approaching before

It's not like being high, it's just what I'd imagine life should feel like for someone my age (early twenties). Without it, I feel comparatively numb, unmotivated, and scatterbrained. Albeit not great for creative thinking, the life-changing amounts of energy and focus I get is worth the trade off.

I'm a student and don't want to (& can't afford to) make it a habit. Has anyone with experience found ways to get on that same level without taking it?

[Anonymous No.16080670]

>>16080660
>Take adderall
>mfw I felt nothing but euphoria and lethargy for 6 hours

is my brain fucked up

[Anonymous No.16080680]

>>16080660
how do i buy this shit without the law fucking me up?

[Anonymous No.16080705]

>>16080660
No shit it's awesome it's basically speed. Sudafed will give a similar high. There will be consequences for over use tho.

[Anonymous No.16080727]

>>16080660
This is the honeymoon phase. Use this time to build these feelings into muscle memory or you will be disappointed when the euphoria reduces over time. Glad it is working for you anon, continue to respect your body and don't chase the euphoria.

[Anonymous No.16080937]

>>16080670
did you have anything planned out to do beforehand? I always take it with the intent of accomplishing something.

>>16080705
exactly why I wanna train myself to be that efficient when sober

>>16080727
Thanks mang. Obviously I've tried to put myself into the "addy mindset" while sober to varying results. Any tips in particular to develop this muscle memory?

[Anonymous No.16080948]

>>16080937
>did you have anything planned out to do beforehand?

I couldn't do anything. I was fucking stoned for 6 hours. Felt like I popped a vicodin and slammed a shot of gin.

[Anonymous No.16080951]

>>16080680
prescription's your safest bet. Don't wanna be ingesting some fake shit you get off the plug

[Anonymous No.16080956]

Ah the beginning of addiction.

[Anonymous No.16080961]

>>16080670
You need to have a plan beforehand. I've taken adder all just cause a few times. If do it without a purpose, I just spend hours jacking off, looking up new porn stars, or finding random information online.

[Anonymous No.16080986]

>>16080961
This. Use sparingly. Shit turned me into a junkie for 2 years.

[Anonymous No.16081007]

[Anonymous No.16081072]

I pop a halfie if I'm doing boomer yard work for the day. Don't over do it. You'll find yourself rearranging your clothes trying to organize shirts colors and pants fabrics , I once ended up in a coin jar, sorting pennies by mint year, arranging them in baggies based on decades.
>Mfw no sliver penny found

[Anonymous No.16081125]

>>16080660
>tfw have bipolar
>antidepressant works; no longer feel depression
>have manic episodes triggered by adderall/coffee
>med student - acing all my classes and clerkships
>everyone around me is DEAD after a 16 hour shift of stapling contusions and treating MUMPS patients
>after a minimum of 12 hours of study/work, i permit myself to go to the bars near me
>hang out with and fuck art hoes who are all coked up
>they're amazed that I refuse their offers of free coke
>2 hours after dawn, I pack my backpack up and head to the library to get a head start on my schoolwork.
>i TA and tutor for money, and can take whatever they throw at me
>we got a new student studying for the LSAT, no one here can teach that, can you?
>never took it before, take a few practice tests online, it's easy as fuck. routinely score 177's
>am basically a superhero to these students who idolize me
>convinced a psychologist to administer the WAIS-IV for me for free since I "do research on neuro" and am in the MD PhD program of a tier one medical school
>psychologist is amazed by my score; tells me most people with bipolar are of below average intelligence
>tells me if i wasn't a genius that i'd likely have killed myself by now or incarcerated
>no one knows i attempted suicide twice this year alone
>no one knows i've been in jail 3x, but charges were always dropped
>no one knows my secret is adderall + bipolar disorder

feels good and bad mang

[Anonymous No.16081176]

>>16081125
I’d be addied out like this too if I could, but aren’t you worried about the effects that will show up down the line if you continue? Don’t know your story, but hang in there.

[Anonymous No.16081191]

Adderall is great if you want to clean your room, write down lots of information without actually comprehending or understanding any of it, and drinking diet coke. Enjoy it while it lasts, all the negative symptoms you listed will become magnified tenfold without your drug to rely upon

[Anonymous No.16081238]

>>16081176
the effects aren't serious and pale in comparison to my actual disorder of bipolar. I don't even need adderall, perse, any stimulant like coffee and cigarettes (or juul) along with some sleep deprivation (I only sleep 3 nights a week) produces this manic state.

but i've been on addies for a decade. they're a wonder drug if you're not an idiot and use them for performance enhancement rather than relying on them to get you to study.

for instance, i don't take it everyday. i take it when i need to, and that is when i study or work. If i am studying, i start a stopwatch and i pause it whenever i take any tiny break like using the bathroom.

my RULE is that i must have 12 hrs on the clock of studying, or working, for me to reward myself by going out and when i go out i only have 1-2 beers.

i take the addies at like 7am anyway, and that is enough for the entire day because once it triggers the manic state, the brain CREATES its own adderall.

--

for instance, adderall/cocaine work by upregulating dopamine, epinephrine, norep, etc. that is identical to what happens when one is manic.

my bipolar med is basically anti-adderall/coke. it works by inhibiting the production of dopamine, ep, norep, serotonin, etc.

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also thanks, i don't really have a story. nothing bad has ever happened in my life. it's just that people with bipolar have a 50% chance of committing suicide.

it isn't like even borne out of depression. it's like just this craziness, as if you're on coke/adderall 24/7/365, which can drive yo crazy especially when everyone else has passed out/fallen asleep.

anyway, thank you. i'm hanging in there.

[Anonymous No.16081284]

>>16081125
This seems like an ideal lifestyle

[Anonymous No.16081307]

>>16081072
anon pennies before 1982 are 90% copper, get back to it

[Anonymous No.16081314]

>>16081284
honestly, it does feel like it. i love my life. very much.

it's just that if i stay up for too long, and get too manic, i feel this delusion of invinciblity so powerful that i engage in self-harm.

i shot myself with an air rifle 2 weeks ago, and the fucking lead pellet is still in my arm. i can't go to a doctor because if my med school catches a whiff of psychiatric imbalance they will boot me out of the school.

last year, two of my colleagues at my med school committed suicide. so med schools are very much trying to not be liable for that kind of shit.

[Anonymous No.16081398]

>>16080660
>Has anyone with experience found ways to get on that same level without taking it?
No, so better enjoy the ride while it lasts. A high price is paid by your brain to use it. Berfore long you need to take it just to be normal.

[Anonymous No.16081403]

>>16081072
never got any of these tweaky urges desu. I just feel like myself, but driving in sport+ mode instead of eco

[Anonymous No.16081600]

bamp

[Anonymous No.16081945]

>>16081238
can you generate manic states without adderall or caffeine?

caffeine doesnt work for me, and Im hesitant on developing an adderall dependence as i have addiction problems. also my dopamine receptors are probably gone or just too tolerant to function normally.

[Anonymous No.16081969]

>>16081314
Wow you are fucking retarded. Say that someone else shot you with an air rifle by accident and need the pellet removed


Just lie you stupid nigger.

[Anonymous No.16081996]

>>16081945
yes and no. but you can try: sleep 2-3 hours a night for as long as you can, drink a lot of coffee, smoke cigs, etc.

Basically the combination of sleep deprivation and stimulants will put you in a hyper vigilant state.

Bear in mind, a manic state is not productive for most people. Most people can't concentrate and have their ADHD exacerbated by a manic state. Not to mention, they engage in behavior like extravagant spending, hypersexuality, and other self-destructive acts.

I'm unique in that I can curb these self-destructive behaviors (most of the time), and can hunker down and program or study for like 12-16 hours straight.

>>16081969
I have to wait for the cuts to heal up. I forgot to mention that I also have self-inflicted cuts on that same arm. I'm actually trying to get an ex gf (now surgeon) to help me out with this. but thank you for your concern.

[Anonymous No.16082043]

>>16081996
Jesus dude get your shit together.

[Anonymous No.16082056]

>>16081996
>I'm unique
you're actually fucked up and you're going to burn out really hard.

[Anonymous No.16082075]

I once wrote an entire screenplay for episode one of a television series under similar circumstances. It's not how I would choose to operate because it's a crutch. You shouldn't go that way lest it become an addiction.

[Anonymous No.16082078]

>>16082043
>>16082056
i know man... i know.

[Anonymous No.16082090]

>>16081314
bipolar and shot myself in the leg with a 9mm, you're actually a pussy bitch just dig out the lead before it leaches into your bloodstream.

[Anonymous No.16082116]

>>16082090
lol, you're a pussy too if you had a gun and haven't shot yourself in the head.

I shot my arm to see if I could kill myself with the air rifle. It didn't even go through my arm, so there that goes.

And yeah, I'm in medicine, i am not going to fuck up a nerve by digging into my arm and guessing where it is (cannot find by palpating). i need imaging.

anyway, we are both bipolar so we understand each other. tell me your story, bro.

[Anonymous No.16082176]

I've noticed that you ADD fags are a lot less interesting and capable irl than you make yourselves out to be in these internet fantasies.

Studying and memorization / rote tasks are one thing. You will get your boypussy wrecked on application if you are all drugged up all the time.

I'm in aviation related field and there are a lot of pilots and air traffic controllers who go the stimulants/drugs route to cope with their hours and certain demands. They are CONVINCED they are performing exceptionally well, even in the middle of fucking up badly. Right until they get yanked or have an incident they think they have it all under control.

Be careful with that shit

[Anonymous No.16082226]

>>16082176
ADDfag here. I've given up and decided to be a NEET. When you're brain damaged trying to cope with drugs is pointless.

[Anonymous No.16082297]

>>16080660
yeah it's called willpower, if you can't do this shit without any drugs then I've got bad news for you junkie

[Anonymous No.16082308]

>>16082116
What's your thoughts on Chainlink?

[Anonymous No.16082368]

>>16082308
lol, i have no thoughts on it. i've been doing well with ethereum.

[Anonymous No.16082592]

>>16080660
Enjoy your burnt out dopamine receptors you fucking moron.

t. kid who got pumped up on this shit from grade K to Junior year of high school thanks to lazy parents, graduated honors in college without it, hate my fucking life.

[Anonymous No.16082656]

>>16081945
Trust me man. You DO NOT want to. Being bipolar fucking sucks and this guy is in a dilusional state of mania. Watch a YouTube video of someone in a manic episode. Going full mania is like going insane. Hypomania is great if you can ride it for as long as possible..

t. Bipolar but mostly better now

[Anonymous No.16082832]

>>16082592
Yeah I’ve taken like 3 pills so far, don’t plan on continuing past the couple few I have left. That’s why I’m asking what people have done to get on the same level of productivity

[Anonymous No.16082872]

>>16082832
It takes 300mg of caffeine for me to feel like I'm at baseline now. Caffeine is good and you can go up to 400+mg depending on your weight.

Organize your life, prep your meals one day a week so you spend less time cooking, exercise 2.5 hours a week. Cut out alcohol, sugar, and other bullshit.
If I can go from supposed ADD to drug free, you can make these little changes that in the long term will make your life so much better. Don't let your 'friends' peer pressure you into consuming junk food and liqour. Many will become losers.

[Anonymous No.16082941]

>>16082872
True. I’ve also spent the majority of my adolescence on this fucking website and other dopamine pig troughs, so no wonder I can’t focus for shit. Thanks for the story anon

[Anonymous No.16082982]

My dad is bipolar. When he is manic he stays up late researching and talking about religion.

As for Adderall, I've used it for a while, but I'm not addicted to it. I normally use it once a month. I end up drinking a little caffeine and I listen to music for motivation

[Anonymous No.16083382]

>>16081125
cute larp. you risk putting yourself in a state of hypomania if you do amphetamines while being bipolar.

[Anonymous No.16083398]

>>16080660
took it for 2 years, biggest mistake of my life

once i quit taking it i became numb to everything and have no motivation at all. nothing seems fun anymore. i can't focus on anything and am in a general state of malaise all the time

[Anonymous No.16083413]

>>16080660
Spot on. I'm 100% convinced the dullards that bleat about how bad Adderall is are either 1) extremely low IQ or 2) are trying their hardest to convince others not to take it, because they know how insanely powerful it is.

It's a miracle drug. The elites are using this shit to empower their youth and families and they ban it from anyone with a 100+ IQ.

[Anonymous No.16083519]

>>16083413
Kill yourself you drug pedaling junkie.

[Anonymous No.16083524]

>>16083413
Kill yourself you drug peddling junkie.

[Anonymous No.16083676]

>>16083524
>t. kid who got pumped up on this shit from grade K to Junior year of high school thanks to lazy parents, graduated honors in college without it, hate my fucking life.

Yeah, I'm sure I'll be the first one killing myself in this exchange you depressed sad sack of shit. Thank your parents for your fucked up disgusting life, don't take it out on anonymous posters on /biz/ you mentally ill freak.

[Anonymous No.16083695]

>>16080660
>>16080951

How do you get a prescription?

[Anonymous No.16083719]

>>16083398
that's extended drug addiction for ya. sucks doesn't it

[Anonymous No.16083746]

>>16083676
Cool projection, I've done more than pop a pill to fix my problems. You're choosing something that I had little choice over. From experience, you will regret this.

[Anonymous No.16083771]

>>16083398
Fucking normies have to be drug addicts for several years to feel like shit. I feel like that normally

[Anonymous No.16083782]

Adderall is neurotoxic in any dose. You ARE paying for short term performance with longer term health, even if you take literally just once.

If you need dopaminergic activity, try:

1)Ritalin (methylphenidate). yeah it doesn't hold a candle to addy, but it is actually neuroprotective on dopamine receptors.

2)Ibogaine. Used traditionally to nuke substance addictions from geostationary orbit, it has intense regenerative/upregulatory activity on a variety of dopamine and reward pathways. It is possibly one of the few substances that can actually enhance d2 receptor activity. Part of its action is by causing extreme expression of GDNF, a type of neurotrophic factor in the brain. You can take a flood dose or microdose it.

3)Other GDNF agonists like vitamin D, ginseng, naringin (grapefruit peel) and royal jelly might have some promise as well. None of them are as balls-deep as ibogaine though.

A lot of people might recommend psychedelics in micro or macrodoses for mental enhancement, it's fairly harmless to try them but they likely will not give you a permanent enhancement. They're good for knocking you out of depression and have upregulatory effects on serotonin transmission (paradoxical because they're serotonin receptor agonists, so you'd expect downregulation) but they don't have much interaction with dopaminergic pathways.

[Anonymous No.16083829]

>>16083782

>Ibogaine

You better be talking about one of the derivatives nigger, because straight Ibogaine is even more toxic to your heart short-term than any potential downsides of long-term Adderall use.

I'm about to get a prescription for Adderall later this week for the first time, if this thread is still up I'll post results

[Anonymous No.16083838]

Anyone thats suffering from anxiety or depression should look up microdosing psilocybin.

It has helped me out A LOT. Do 1-3 weeks of microdosing and do it about every 6 months. It's cheap and long lasting (you won't have to do it every day of your life) you'll notice a huge difference.

I am happier, I sleep better, I can focus on my daily activities without using drugs every day.. it has really been a cure all for me this past couple years.

[Anonymous No.16083851]

>>16083829
Want results from someone that did it for more than ten years? Don't do it.

[Anonymous No.16083853]

>>16083838

I've heard a lot about this and have been thinking about pulling the trigger on trying it. I'm in a similar situation with depression, any advice for how you got started?

[Anonymous No.16083862]

>>16083782
Well you got me spooked. So essentially adderall destroys dopamine receptors? Seriously asking, how bad could taking a couple more be considering people have taken them for extended periods and gotten out fine.

[Anonymous No.16083928]

>>16083862

Adderall is essentially just amphetamines with some other ingredients in there, so, speed.

From what I have heard, you will be fine as long as you are not taking it on the daily for months on end. Use it when you need it with a task in mind to help build discipline and habits so that eventually, you dont need it at all.

[Anonymous No.16083993]

>>16083829
yes it does have pretty severe cardiac side effects at higher doses, or even lower doses if you're sensitive or have a long qt at baseline. To my knowledge none of the cardiac sides are permanent, though who really knows.

Still, if your neurocircuitry is fried and you're desperate for a real regenerative solution, it's probably the best drug available for the purpose. There may be some cleaner analogues in a lab somewhere but fuck if I'd know how to procure them.

>>16083862
https://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/82403-dopamine-receptors-cannot-be-restored-after-amphetamine-use/#entry747275

I will admit there seems to be SOME debate about whether it is truly neurotoxic, but a better consensus seems to be that it can cause permanent morphological changes in the striatum. So even if your brain isn't damaged per se (and that is debatable, I think it still is), it still may hew to a new baseline after recovering from long-term use, a baseline that pumps out less dopamine and/or responds less robustly to dopamine.

[Anonymous No.16084036]

>>16083993
>none of the cardiac sides are permanent

well considering most of those cardiac side effects are death, I suppose you are right. I'm off to purchase some Ibogaine right now!!

[Anonymous No.16084165]

>>16083853
I got started when a friend of mine said he can get shrooms, I took shrooms when I was younger but never actually researched them. I came across microdosing and decided to give it a try.

Just do it. Start on a day that you know you don't have anything to do for atleast 6-8 hours. Take only about .3grams. Once you get the feel for it you will know if you need more or less. Wait a couple days and do it again. Do it every couple days for 1-3 weeks. Sometimes I do it just once and I feel reset the next day and don't have a need to do it again.

You want to take enough to feel the effects but not enough to "trip out" I can't explain how much it has helped me you would just have to try and decide for yourself. It really has helped me so much... just do it man.. do it..

Colorado and Oregon might make it legal nexg year.. could lead onto some types of opportunties much like cannabis

[Anonymous No.16084199]

>>16083993
That's understandable for long-term use as you said. But could a handful of 30mg doses taken infrequently have serious, permanent effects?

[Anonymous No.16084214]

>>16083782
I've only heard about it being neurotoxic when taken in high doses, got any sources for it being neurotoxic with "normal" doses? (i.e. 30 mg)

[Anonymous No.16084359]

Like others anons have said, the key is to teach yourself good habits and constantly force yourself over “that hump” with the help of addy confidence.

By “that hump” I mean like, how it’s so mentally tough to leave your house and go to the gym, but once you’re at the gym you’re dialed in asf. That hump is present in so many different aspects of life. Addy confidence is OP for forcing this behavior change.

Also, shits not addictive at all. Can quit cold turkey np ezpz. Brain is melted for 1-2 weeks but you’re back to normal-ish in no time. If you’re taking it for a while, your brain is gunna be melted for a while like smart sciencey anon above is tryna tell us. Be responsible.

Drugs are IRL raid buffs mates. Either take your buffs in the morning to be +10 int +10 focus +10 charisma compared to your team, or try to compete sober against those no-lifer wagecucks on your team who disgustingly live and breath their entry-level work.

Wish we had more discussion on when/how/what to use for certain professional situations. I’m truly a fucking moron but crushing at a hypercompetitive big 4 tech firm because of selective drug abuse. >Phenibut for interviews and presentations
>Adderall for slide decks (clean and organized asf), comms, and repetitive work like troubleshooting bullshit.
>Microdosing psychs for galaxy brain creative work.
>A beer after work to loosen your boss up a bit and get the “real” scoop on what’s going on at the managerial level
>drinking tea >>>>>>> drinking coffee. coffee is shit tier.

Did I miss anything? Lol drugs.