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[Anonymous No.15733044]

Anyone taking testosterone here? Would you recommend it?

[Anonymous No.15733047]

>>15733044
you mean steroids?

[Anonymous No.15733054]

cruising on 100mg a week/trt, gonna blast 600mg a week in a few months. why do ya ask?

[Anonymous No.15733066]

>>15733054
>go to doctor to get TRT
>he just laughs at me and says to come back when I’m 40

[Anonymous No.15733083]

>>15733044
Yes I’m on .8 CC a week. Just make sure you check your estrogen because if it gets out of control it will cause major depression. Just know you run the risk of losing natural test production because your testes shutdown and become dependent on the trt. So take HCG to avoid this and prevent testicular shrinkage. Don’t over do it on the test, you could start to lose your hair and cause other problems, just take what’s prescribed or a little more don’t go over 900 ng/dL.

[Anonymous No.15733090]

highly recommend

[Anonymous No.15733118]

>>15733054
How is it anon? Mood? Recovery? Sleep? Mental health? Gains? Confidence? Libido?

[Anonymous No.15733127]

>>15733066
Same shit happened to me at 23, they said I was way too young for my low test to truly have an effect on me. Im 27 now and got prescribed it after bloodwork. Ive always had a source so I can use trt to cruise and blast once or twice a year. Funny how trannies can get testosterone easier than us

[Anonymous No.15733129]

My test is already insanely high I about get into a fist fight everytime I go anywhere because being a natural alpha other by nature want to proof themselves and get rekt

[Anonymous No.15733135]

>>15733129
You just autistic anon

[Anonymous No.15733137]

>>15733129
You're not a natural alpha if you fight people, you're just some high test dumbass

[Anonymous No.15733163]

>>15733118
Workouts that gave me 7 day doms now only last a day or two at max, get gains every workout, better sense of wellbeing, beard and eyebrows much thicker, it just feels so good to know you are gonna get results after putting in the word but when you have low test you can live like a god and have zero results

[Anonymous No.15733200]

>>15733163
Any sides? Hairline? Acne? Nipples?

[Anonymous No.15733218]

>>15733200
Ive been on fin ever since I noticed my hair thinning at 23. Only side I am getting are stupid night sweats. I wake up and my back is soaked. No acne bc I took accutane around 21 when I had full body cystic acne before even cycling

[Anonymous No.15733250]

Pic related are some of my levels. Does TRT help with libido? I can get it up with my girlfriend, but I can only cum in certain positions. I don't know if it's my test though, it could be years of porn-induced reprogramming.

Can I do TRT for a year and get off? Is it possible to quit TRT?

[Anonymous No.15734104]

>>15733250
It will absolutely help with libido. When I was on test my cock got as hard as a fucking diamond and it was like 1" bigger than it is now because of how hard it was. I would rail the shit out of my gf every night and she loved it. I had more energy and just felt great all the time. Made gains like crazy in muscle while leaning out and still being able to eat. If you stay on test for a year you will stop producing natural test so youll probably have to be on it forever. You can PCT but you might never return to normal levels. If your test is low or even borderline low, TRT is literally a godsend. You'll feel amazing. I had 0 sides.

[Anonymous No.15734119]

Higher test supposedly helps with trading.

[Anonymous No.15734136]

>>15733129
alpha males lead, beta males fight

[Anonymous No.15734269]

>>15733044
ANY sauce for the full video?

[Anonymous No.15734325]

>>15733250
Where'd you get the chart?

Any advice for an anon who knows he needs it but isn't sure where to start, or how to track over time to adjust dosage?

[Anonymous No.15734342]

>>15734104

What do I say to my General Doc to get tested for low T?

Is it expensive?

I'm only 32 and I have sleep like shit because of sleep apnea and collapse as soon as I get home from my office job. Absolutely no energy. Most of my problem is sleep, but I think I might be low testosterone too because I just don't give a fuck about women and fucking and I haven't really cared for 7-8 years...

[Anonymous No.15734386]

Shes MADE for BBC

[Anonymous No.15734533]

I get testosterone and human growth hormone, my body produces both when doing HIIT

[Anonymous No.15734568]

>>15733137

Sounds pretty alpha to me

[Anonymous No.15734584]

>>15733044
Iam gonna, iam gonna coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom!

[Anonymous No.15734589]

>>15733127
Just go in saying youre a woman who wants to be a man and call them a bigot if they disagree.

[Anonymous No.15734594]

>>15734136
Lol no Alpha males beat the shit out of everyone and win every fight, to the point people dont even challenge them.

[Anonymous No.15734599]

>>15734342
>>15733127
google "mens health clinic"
they prescribe TRT

endocirnologists and primary care doctors WILL NOT help you

the ONLY normie doc who MIGHT help you is a urologist. urologists in my experience have been bros.

[Anonymous No.15734610]

If you want natural high t

>eat onion / raw onion
>eat garlic
>eat oatmeal
>be in the sun (vit d> t)
>dont mastrubate, only cum in girls
>dont watch porn in general
>workout / high exercise
>avoid: soja, chai, tofu, humus, excessive alcohol, hop (beer, especially IPA's)

It isnt that hard desu

[Anonymous No.15734628]

>>15734610

O fuck I forgot the most important of them all:
Good sleep. Testosterone is synthesized in your sleep so you need a stable 7-8 hours or your production drops

[Anonymous No.15734661]

>>15734628
do you eat your oats with milk?

[Anonymous No.15734686]

>>15733044

I've got a huge penis, I don't need testopenisone

[Anonymous No.15734694]

>>15734628
Or you could just not be a pussy. It's $1/g, takes maybe half that each month to hit 900ng. Worst part is going to get your levels checked, maybe every 6 weeks. Your body makes the shit ffs, it's as dangerous as taking melatonin. If you get it dialed in low enough you can even get away with skipping aromatase inhibitors. You'll feel estrogen being too high or low before your lab results will show it anyway. Shutting down natty production is a joke if you're over 25. You're probably making about as much as you will for rest of life, all downhill from there. Why would you want to ever come off? Some of the longer esters can allow monthly injections at babby doses like this(yet still a good 4 or 5 times higher than your current production). Ronnie Coleman was on grams of shit and he knocked his girl up, so even muh spermies is a weak excuse.

[Anonymous No.15734700]

>>15733044
>/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.15734702]

>>15734694
yeah but what if I want to make sperm to get girl preggo

[Anonymous No.15734704]

It will make your balls small, better to don't take it and have SAFEX balls

[Anonymous No.15734752]

I’ve been thinking of getting on a low dose of test (100mg-250mg test-e a week) just for the mental and libido effects instead of muscle gains. I have a decent amount of muscle (1200lbs lifting total). Is it worth it to shut down your natty test for that low of a dosage? Also I’m worried about hairloss. I’m 25 and so far I’m not balding, my father isn’t balding either however my grandfather on my mother’s side was completely bald at 40.

I’ve been trying to raise my test for years the natural way following all the cliche advice given however it didn’t help shit.

[Anonymous No.15734762]

>>15734702
Do whatever Coleman did. I think he fucked her. I think it's related somehow.

[Anonymous No.15734779]

>>15734762
coleman had to take fertility drugs

[Anonymous No.15734822]

>>15734599
>"mens health clinic"
tell me more

[Anonymous No.15734851]

>>15734752
>Is it worth it to shut down your natty test for that low of a dosage?
not at 25. take fin to prevent balding.

you say it yourself, you have a decent amount of muscle. you probably don't need to raise your test. get good with that or hop on at least 300-400.

[Anonymous No.15734854]

>>15733218
Does test remove the side effects of fin then? You rarely hear of people doing both for some reason.

[Anonymous No.15734861]

>>15733129
Alphas don't fight because they've already won. If you're a fighter, normally means youre a beta trying to prove otherwise.

[Anonymous No.15734866]

>>15734854
go to a steroid forum or plebbit steroids. the ones that have mpb are taking them together.

[Anonymous No.15734880]

>>15734866
It's not urgent. I always figured I'd go on trt when im 35+. Would like to protect my hair im the process.

[Anonymous No.15734888]

>>15734694
I should have known Ronnie cheated from his gayass voice.

[Anonymous No.15734898]

>>15733044
Tell me where is that beach and I'll go

[Anonymous No.15734901]

>>15734861
Alphas fight other alphas for dominance

[Anonymous No.15734925]

>>15734880
oh ok. i've started fin twice with test. first time had some sides, second time im fine. i think you can worry the sides into existence.

[Anonymous No.15734985]

>>15734888
The 200lbs of muscle mass didn't give him away?

[Anonymous No.15734994]

>>15733044
I like how she clearly sees the guy videotaping her and even says something about it

[Anonymous No.15735007]

>>15734994
and the alpha just kept recording. hes def on test

[Anonymous No.15735100]

>>15734599
>google "mens health clinic"
In typical example of men's well-being being ignored in my country, there are none where I live, but there are about a dozen women's health centres though. I will have to travel 200 miles to get to the nearest one. Business opportunity?

[Anonymous No.15735155]

>>15734822
they prescribe men testosterone. you can also try googling "mens testosterone clinic"

[Anonymous No.15735163]

>>15735100
>>15735155
or try gooling testosterone therapy clinic
thats how I found mine, just keep googling for key words youll find something I guarantee if you live near a city theres something

[Anonymous No.15735198]

>>15733044
I naturally keep the test production up. Eat a lot of zinc rich foods like shelled fish. Do some aerobic exercise. Take superfoods instead of b complex vitamins. Nofap is good and stay away from PMO.

[Anonymous No.15735200]

>>15735163
Finally got one single clinic nearer than 200 miles, thanks.

[Anonymous No.15735460]

>>15734661

Yes, its also a known estrogener. But i usually only purchase biological milk and hope for the best.

>>15734694
I dont need your shit after 1 week of no sex im a drooling caveman and my dick is diamonds and thicc af. Last niggt i dreamed my dick was strapped on my belt and i hard turned it to a warmace.

[Anonymous No.15735466]

Also, being fat supresses your testosterone

[Anonymous No.15735484]

>>15733044
Just lift weights, it does the same thing

[Anonymous No.15735614]

>>15733129
Insecure, conflict seeking = Beta
Comfy, calm, confident = Chad

[Anonymous No.15735653]

Is TRT safe to take as a fatass with high blood pressure?

[Anonymous No.15735670]

>>15735653
yep

[Anonymous No.15735685]

>>15733044
Holy fuck. I would rape her so fucking hard.

[Anonymous No.15735749]

>>15734779
So there is no problem with it, just like I said.

>>15734888
He didn't cheat, have you seen the guy? There's many eyewitness accounts and videos of it. You have to remember he's not in the women's bantam weight boxing whatever. He's a bodybuilder.

>>15735460
Sounds like something that testosterone would fix. I guess you could guilt an ugly girl into sex if you've been with her for a while and give her money,or jerk off. But why settle for that?

[Anonymous No.15735795]

>>15735653
Not at all. Being fat or having high blood pressure is bad enough if you have just one of those. Two together drastically increases your risk for a host of dealt problems down the road. You should try to lose fat and lower your blood pressure. A lot of steroids can raise blood pressure, but it should be a greater benefit than risk at the low trt doses we're talking about, especially if you combine it with the diet and exercise meme. Telmisartan is a good antihypertensive that also benefits muscle development. Fat interferes with steroid metabolism so a greater amount could be made into estrogen. Either a lower dose or the addition of an aromatase inhibitor is a good idea in your case. Keep an eye on your blood work and it should be alright. /fit/ will make fun of you and there's a handful who believe test has no place unless you've been lifting 69+ years and have reached natty max and gotten permission from both parents and a teacher. All research has shown that sooner is better and guys who don't exercise lose fat and gain weight faster than guys following a strict gym routine when comparing two groups of untrained men. The guys who roided and trained beat out both groups though. On mobile so I don't have the link. Just lurk the /fraud/ threads.

[Anonymous No.15735883]

>>15733044
You will lose your hair

[Anonymous No.15735901]

Got a vial is test off te deep web and needles from Walgreens but pussed out as I didn’t know what i was doing

Just gonna stay on daa for now until I hit 35

Any other good over te counter supplements for jacking up test? Heard zinc is good too

[Anonymous No.15735954]

>>15735901
Zinc, Vit D, Boron

[Anonymous No.15735970]

>>15735901
Also red light therapy

https://www.menshealth.com/health/a19539973/i-put-a-giant-red-light-on-my-balls-to-triple-my-testosterone-levels/

[Anonymous No.15736033]

>>15735970
What a revolting article

[Anonymous No.15736051]

>>15735795
This

Currently cruising on 50/3 times a week, and going to blast with 500 soon together with NPP and EQ.

Test is great and I wish I used it sooner. However, what was equally important was hiring a coach (online) who I have weekly check ins with (accountability to keep me on track) and who sorted out my diet. The training is fine, but it was always diet that got me.

It has definitely made me hornier but I'm also bored a lot more due to my new job so that also encourages sex-related thinking.

I love going to the gym anyway so it was just a boost for that. Definitely more confident too, and I don't get roid rage (which is a myth anyway) but I am quicker to get frustrated by small things. Pop tart got stuck in the toaster one day and I got really annoyed lol

[Anonymous No.15736073]

20yo
185cm
69kg

What do I take to get buff? I don't have money for a lot of food but I can orser whatever from the darkweb

[Anonymous No.15736095]

>>15733044
fucked my heart up, wouldnt recommend

[Anonymous No.15736103]

>>15736051
> "yes i pin but it was really sorting out my diet and exericse programme that made the difference!"
Oh this cope always makes me laugh

[Anonymous No.15736208]

>>15736103

Well you see I did run one cycle before and my gains were decent but not great and I just ate enough protein rather than properly nailing my diet. The two in combination have been an enormous change.

Test is obviously good alone, but to get the best out of it, I needed a coach to tweak things for me and it has been well worth it.

[Anonymous No.15736219]

>>15736208
Yeah if you're on test you should make the most of it with diet and exercise but don't be fooled that it's not the test doing 80% of the work.

I do a test cycle every few years so im not criticizing that, just the cope where people want to use test but pretend it's their hard work and willpower that 'really' gave the results.

[Anonymous No.15736232]

>>15736073
eggs, peanut butter, chicken, rice, vegetables

If you're going on test you need to be sure you can afford AI and PCT stuff if you're going to cycle off. It all adds up.

[Anonymous No.15736300]

>>15733044
Hot.

[Anonymous No.15736344]

I'm 20 and I got my test checked and it was 472.622 ng/dL which I think is low. Barely within the limits. I have no motivation for years now, I never get boners unless I really focus on porn. I'm never horny and I'm pretty sure my dick is smaller than it used to be. I'm in Croatia so I'm not sure how I can get testosterone here since the healthcare system is so different from America.

[Anonymous No.15736430]

>>15736219
I would still say the diet gave me an extra 30%

[Anonymous No.15736457]

>>15736344
Come one someone with knowledge please respond. I'm not sure if maybe I should ask my private urologist. I just don't want to be a low test bitch that is so low energy that it sleeps all day.

[Anonymous No.15736484]

>>15735460
>Last niggt i dreamed my dick was strapped on my belt and i hard turned it to a warmace.

[Anonymous No.15736566]

>>15734694
My body doesn’t make it. Been on test since I was 15. Fucking sucks but at least my levels will always be high AF and never go down cause I control it.

[Anonymous No.15736748]

>>15733044
Business and Finance

[Anonymous No.15736800]

>>15736103
Do you deny that high natty or supraphyliological levels of testosterone and a good diet and training is good for strength and aesthetics? You want to talk about cope but dayum. You have mountainl of empirical evidence and literally every good bodybuilder suggesting the opposite of what you think. If diet, exercise, and hormones are irrelevant then please share with us how to get better results. A picture would also be appreciated. I hope you understand my skepticism and thinking that you are a lying sack of shin.

>>15736219
>Le 80/20 maymay xd
Having the will and dedication to even start researching the topic and pinning the first time is responsible for most of it. In comes down to will. First and foremost strength comes from within. This has been quantified before. Your numbers do not match what is in the journals. Everything you say can be disregarded as dumbass bullshit.

>>15736457
You're well within the normal limits for a man in your age range. What, you think in odd that the age range endos put you in is 12 to 90? From what I know of Croat Healthcare it's a very different system. In the US the men's health clinics are like proprietary software but extra scammy. They write prescriptions locked to their clinics pharmacy, and they mark the prices up accordingly. This isn't something a GP is likely to write. Any compounding pharmacy will sell it dirt cheap in the US. Guys can come back 2000ng and still get an rx at men's clinics. My half educated guess says you have two options. Go to gym regularly and befriend those huge guys. Roiders are friendlier than the typical gym bro so don't be intimidated. Ask what 'supplements' they take, ask for a hookup. The second is fake it. Test levels vary wildly. Get tested after staying up all night and a bit hungover, you should be around 100-200 and if you have a good relationship with the doc you might get an rx. Be sure to play up the symptoms textbook like for low test.