Google will be able to crack Bitcoin’s encryption in a couple years

[Anonymous No.15669247]

[Anonymous No.15669258]

Bullrun till 2022 and waiting for BitcoinSV Quantum edition.

[Anonymous No.15669268]

>>15669247
the devs can just make it SHA 512 and that will buy us a few more years

[Anonymous No.15669271]

You can already crack bitcoin now it's just not profitable to do so

[Anonymous No.15669272]

making bitcoin quantum resistant is fairly easy.

[Anonymous No.15669278]

>>15669247
google is full of shit.

[Anonymous No.15669286]

https://www.infowars.com/googles-quantum-supremacy-to-render-all-cryptocurrency-military-secrets-breakable/

[Anonymous No.15669289]

Lol goog cant even code. Computing reached its peak in 80s. Blame nu capitalism.

[Anonymous No.15669298]

>>15669278
It’s real. They have already solved chess retard

[Anonymous No.15669302]

>>15669271
Are you fucking retarded? The universe would die of heat death before you could crack a singular wallet.

[Anonymous No.15669305]

>>15669247
Why are you posting this every day?

[Anonymous No.15669309]

>>15669289
>>15669289

See below. You are gravely mistaken if you think Google is behind the ball on this one.

[Anonymous No.15669314]

>>15669305
This is new news

[Anonymous No.15669319]

>>15669302
the security is in the profit incentive not the algorithm

[Anonymous No.15669326]

>>15669302
>>15669319
CAN THESE NIGGERS CRACK BITCOIN WITH QUANTUM COMPUTING OR NOT, I NEED ANSWERS

[Anonymous No.15669329]

>>15669298
Chess is a game not of strategy but knowing every possible potential outcome of a game, of course a computer is better at that.

[Anonymous No.15669333]

>>15669319
That is a complete non-answer. You cannot crack an HD wallet even if it had 100 trillion dollars in it.

[Anonymous No.15669337]

>>15669326
no

[Anonymous No.15669347]

>>15669278
>full of kikes*
ftfy

[Anonymous No.15669357]

>>15669314
It's months old you absolute faggot
https://interestingengineering.com/googles-quantum-processor-may-achieve-quantum-supremacy-in-months

[Anonymous No.15669377]

>>15669333
no it's is a more precise answer than yours

given that sha256 will be secure for bitcoin as long as it is profitable to be not how long it takes to crack a hd wallet.

[Anonymous No.15669402]

>>15669326
You guys should learn to code.

SHA-256 is safe against quantum computing so far, as the best algorithm requires 2^128 tries to find two different things that hash to the same value.

ECDSA is not quantum safe because Shor's algorithm will allow you to break it in 128^3 tries, which is not as big as 2^128 for traditional computers. Most of the encryption, like RSA, DSA, DH, etc. are all breakable by quantum computers. I trust the developers to be able to update bitcoin so it becomes quantum safe.

[Anonymous No.15669403]

>>15669357
This new news. It broke 24 hours ago. Here is MIT’s review.

https://www.technologyreview.com/f/614416/google-researchers-have-reportedly-achieved-quantum-supremacy/

[Anonymous No.15669417]

>>15669402

Seek below

>>15669403

[Anonymous No.15669435]

>>15669326
Google search:

>Google quantum supremacy

[Anonymous No.15669439]

>>15669326
Ye

They won’t because they’re the only ones who can so they’d get caught

[Anonymous No.15669451]

>>15669247
Trillion dollar Jew tech company Quantum computer vs some anonymous faggot on a conventional computer yeah I wonder who will win

[Anonymous No.15669458]

>>15669377
>Sha256 will be secure for bitcoin as long as it is profitable to be
Do you even know how bitcoin works?

[Anonymous No.15669462]

>>15669247
so they'll just fork it lmao

[Anonymous No.15669476]

>>15669247
Sha 256 breaking is a lot more damaging to entire nations and way more $$$ than fucking “160 billion” lmao.

[Anonymous No.15669490]

>>15669476
I’m well aware there is a bigger security threat than fake internet money. Google
Could give this technology to China or some crazy shit. The threat is real

[Anonymous No.15669495]

>>15669458
when the price of using energy to break sha256 is more profitable than using the same amount of energy to mine bitcoin bitcoin will need to change algorithms .
The economics is more critical to the security of bitcoin than the computer code you soi boy

[Anonymous No.15669507]

>>15669490

>guy working in the CIA could go to china

Are you retarded? Do you realize that people are not going to jail for treason ? What a stupid retort.

[Anonymous No.15669545]

>>15669507
Do you think Google is more likely to work with the US government? Or China? These people hate Trump and are not interested in working with us.

[Anonymous No.15669573]

>>15669247
Bet there's only White and Asian males on Google's quantum computing team

[Anonymous No.15669594]

>>15669258
honestly this

[Anonymous No.15669595]

>>15669573
they are super serious about "inclusion and diversity," but i'm willing to bet that the special teams have only white men with a couple asians and 1 indian.

[Anonymous No.15669601]

>>15669247
CSW already did this during his BBC 'fake' signing on TV from a few years ago. Literally 99.999999999% of people did not truly understand what happened when he did his 'fake' proof signing.

[Anonymous No.15669605]

>>15669545

google is 80% indian/chinese these days and half the white people there are slav so I wouldn't put it past them. And they refused to help the US govt in a defense project while deciding to help build a censorship tool for the CCP. Google is not an American company anymore.

[Anonymous No.15669609]

>>15669247
fuck... crypto was my chance of retiring by 25

[Anonymous No.15669628]

if sha-2 got cracked, which it wont then they would move on to sha-3

[Anonymous No.15669657]

>>15669271
mining is not the same as cracking.

[Anonymous No.15669669]

>>15669247
fork to sha-512

easy

[Anonymous No.15669677]

>>15669609
i feel you man

[Anonymous No.15669681]

>>15669545
Thiel has stated on the record he thinks Google leadership is in bed with China

[Anonymous No.15669686]

>>15669495
Cracking wallets =/ mining. If you have the computer power mining is ALWAYS more profitable than attacking the chain to perform a double spend. Thats how the incentives have been created.

[Anonymous No.15669695]

I skimmed the paper. It's fucking bullshit. Here is the only part that matters.

However,
realizing the full promise of quantum computing (e.g.
Shor’s algorithm for factoring) still requires technical
leaps to engineer fault-tolerant logical qubits[19{23].

So they don't have fault-tolerant qubits because at the current time engineering these logical qubits requires EXPONENTIAL energy use. This isn't quantum supremacy because generating random numbers with a CSPRNG is already good enough. They are just saying using some contrived bullshit with random circuits we generate a string faster than it would take a normal machine to simulate these quantum circuits, but that doesn't fucking matter when this is a useless goal.

[Anonymous No.15669696]

There's much more involved than a lame cryptomemecoin here.

[Anonymous No.15669726]

>>15669605
>>15669681

many people are completely missing the point with Google and these Mega-corporations. They obviously have no allegiance to the US (or any nation state for that matter).

Lets look at facebook for example, they are under a criminal antitrust investigation from a hostile Department of Justice, and their first thought is to make "Libra." There are people who are betting on Google and these other Monopolies to win in the end. They can't see the writing on the wall. France and a few other countries are already banning Zuckbucks. But the retards who own these companies persist as though they are completely above the law and will never get shut down.

[Anonymous No.15669738]

>>15669695
Google is ahead of the curve on this one. Discount them at your own risk.

[Anonymous No.15669748]

>>15669726
To be fair, history has shown, these corporations ARE above most laws. When you can bribe your way out of anything and own the data of billions of people you are in some instances, more powerful than some countries.

[Anonymous No.15669754]

>>15669247
>what is post-quantum cryptography

[Anonymous No.15669756]

>>15669695
Maybe they aren't there yet, but they are coming for your butthole. If you think they have any competition or any restrictions, they don't. They have more money than God, and you are going to get buttraped if you ignore them.

[Anonymous No.15669763]

>>15669686
>If you have the computer power mining is ALWAYS more profitable
no, this would depend on the value of the wallet

[Anonymous No.15669771]

>>15669763
Once again, slower for you. MINING POWER DOES NOT EQUAL CRACKING WALLETS.

[Anonymous No.15669773]

>>15669669
But Blockstream said forks are bad

[Anonymous No.15669784]

>>15669771
I clearly said energy >>15669495

[Anonymous No.15669785]

ITT: brainlets not realizing that if Google cracks 256 bit cryptography Bitcoin will be the last of our worries.
THE ENTIRE INTERNET RELIES ON CRYPTO, YOU MONGOLOIDS.

[Anonymous No.15669796]

>>15669784
It is not the same computing power, you would need entirely different machines. They are not equivocal. You can have all the energy in the world and you cannot crack a HD wallet before the universe dies of heat death.

[Anonymous No.15669801]

>>15669748
Google is absolutely more powerful than many countries. They act this way because they fear no one, because they are used to working with an incompetent Government Bureaucracy they can constantly make shady deals with.

>Their arrogance will be their downfall
>Trump, and many other Senators have learned how dangerous Google really is, and how Google is planning to unseat ALL of them
>Faceberg is currently threatening the FED's power by "printing" Libra.
>Trump will gather all available information in a ruthless fashion and assemble a team of ruthless psychopaths and patriots alike attack them legally (and in any other fashion).

Trump will find a weak point and absolutely go for the throat. He will destroy Google one way or the other. He will break their back, or crush their throat etc. I'm assuming he's going for criminal charges against leadership. Only then will these other Tech companies get in line and behave.

Everyone thinks i'm crazy when I say that Trump (and his newly formed band of Senators) will absolutely destroy Google. He destroyed China in 6 months.

[Anonymous No.15669802]

>>15669796
>It is not the same computing power, you would need entirely different machines.
that is my point, the economics is more critical than the IT

[Anonymous No.15669805]

>>15669289
>Computing reached its peak in 80s
we haven't even bottomed out on silicon transistors. when fully propagated 6nm arrives, you are going to see some shit.

[Anonymous No.15669808]

>>15669785
Electronic money is the least of our worries.

[Anonymous No.15669818]

>>15669796
i don't even know what an HD wallet is, but i'm assuming it's much more secure? quick rundown please.

[Anonymous No.15669825]

scaling 53 to 256?
ezpz huh?

BAHAHAHAHAHA
writer is a fucking retard

[Anonymous No.15669828]

>>15669818
hierarchical deterministic wallet, you are almost certaintly using one.

[Anonymous No.15669846]

>>15669402
computer science and cryptography maths != "learning to code" you fucking faggot. Code monkeys just load and invoke whatever library stack overflow tells them to.

[Anonymous No.15669861]

>>15669785
What will they able to do with this? Can you give examples that are not "they gonna own the entire internet"?

[Anonymous No.15669867]

>>15669825
MIT thinks they are a threat.

https://www.technologyreview.com/f/614416/google-researchers-have-reportedly-achieved-quantum-supremacy/

[Anonymous No.15669874]

>>15669247
I think we have bigger things to worry about than them cracking the code on buttcoins

[Anonymous No.15669877]

>>15669861
they can read all of your e-

[Anonymous No.15669881]

>>15669861
Think about it. Banking systems and nearly everything else is run on a computer network. You need passcodes to access these systems.

>Banks
>Justice system
>Literally anything

[Anonymous No.15669886]

>>15669247
Hard Fork to Sha-512, and continue to do so until it's unfeasible for Google to break it, repeat.

[Anonymous No.15669895]

>>15669861
Almost all encryption security relies on sha256. The entire banking system would fail overnight if sha256 was cracked, government secrets would be stolen, weapons systems could be hijacked. It would truly be a nightmare scenario, bitcoin would hardly be on the radar to whoever can crack it.

[Anonymous No.15669901]

>>15669439
hahahahahahahahahhaahaha

[Anonymous No.15669907]

>>15669601
can you elaborate on this, or give me a link anon? I have read that before, and would like to investigate that viewpoint further.

[Anonymous No.15669937]

>>15669247
GENTLEMEN, I have an announcement to make. Please be seated and the presentation shall commence shortly.

[Anonymous No.15669951]

>>15669601
>>15669907
I think he is trying to say craig wright cracked sha 256 to explain how he used a satoshi signature. If that is the case it is laughably wrong. Craig copied an old signature from satoshi and tried to pass it off as his.

[Anonymous No.15669974]

>>15669867
so theyre going to magically improve proficiency by a factor of
2^203 in 3 years?
2^53 while impressive is a universe apart from 2^256
its not as simple as multiplying 53 by 5 to get to 256 qubits
each bit is exponentially more difficult than the last

MIT the briainchild of Enigma and pentlands scam Endor? lol

[Anonymous No.15669977]

>>15669601
>0.0753 people understand

[Anonymous No.15670013]

>>15669974
Look. I’m a chess player and I saw Google play 100 matches against a super computer with no loses. The impressive thing was, Google’s computer was given no information except how to play the game - and 4 hours of practice...

>After 4 hours of practice, Google’s computer is rated 4700.
>The supercomputer is rated 3600.

Google is a serious threat. Maybe they see something you don’t.

[Anonymous No.15670048]

>>15669977
>>15669951

there is more to the "fake" signing than meets the eye. Even involving steganography, but I´m not well enough versed in cryptography to follow those breadcrumbs into the forest.

Would really appreciate another breadcrumb/link.

[Anonymous No.15670053]

>>15670048
>there is more to the "fake" signing than meets the eye.
I wouldn't doubt this, but where is the evidence

[Anonymous No.15670152]

>>15669247
>53 quibits
HAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHHA
also, in order to break SHA-256 you need an algorithm for the quantum computer to follow
there is nothing alive in this earth that can come up with that algo right now
it is exponentially harder to make quantum algorithms

ALSO
you need a computer of 1500 qubits to break SHA
but that's not all
bitcoin is double hashed, and...
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Quantum_computing_and_Bitcoin#Mitigations
>Bitcoin already has some built-in quantum resistance. If you only use Bitcoin addresses one time, which has always been the recommended practice, then your ECDSA public key is only ever revealed at the one time that you spend bitcoins sent to each address. A quantum computer would need to be able to break your key in the short time between when your transaction is first sent and when it gets into a block. It will likely be decades after a quantum computer first breaks a Bitcoin key before quantum computers become this fast.

QUANTUM
COPING

[Anonymous No.15670165]

>>15669974
I bet you are a smart guy, and so am I. We have a tendency to discount other people. Google might have a new idea, technology or a completely new method

[Anonymous No.15670176]

>>15669247
ETHEREUM IS QUANTUM RESISTANT
$2,100 EOY/Q1of2020

[Anonymous No.15670178]

>>15670152

See below

>>15670165

[Anonymous No.15670192]

>>15670165
i have a 512 quantum decrypter in my closet, don't count me out bro

[Anonymous No.15670207]

>>15670192
Laugh all you want

[Anonymous No.15670212]

>>15670048
>>15670053
Here you go, we are all satoshi now.
https://albacore.io/faketoshi

Anybody can tie a message to block 9 with a signature satoshi already used. This is how craig wright did it, now you can too!

[Anonymous No.15670234]

>>15669247
Google has cracked bitcoin's encryption long ago, that's why they only use Chainlink

[Anonymous No.15670247]

>>15669754
this. the shit in OP's pic is just click bait. quantum computing's effects on cryptography was news 20 years ago. practical post-quantum crypto libraries existed at least 6 years ago. the only thing we haven't done yet is standardize the algorithms used, but the NIST is working on that - https://csrc.nist.gov/projects/post-quantum-cryptography (not that we should listen to them)
Also, people spouting nonsense about breaking SHA-256 don't seem to realize that nothing considered secure uses SHA by itself, they use hybrid algorithms, like OpenVPN's --tls-ciphersuites options TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 or TLS_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256.
With regards to encrypted traffic, if your setup includes a decent form of PFS (Perfect Forward Secrecy) and/or ephemeral keys, then previously recorded encrypted traffic won't be susceptible to brute force attacks later, unless it's inside the key renegotiation window, which is why that should be set low.

[Anonymous No.15670258]

>>15670165
>>15670178
not this time bro
one way cryptography is just like gravity
you can seethe and stomp the ground all you want, you can't go against it without firing up the rocket fuel

also, the real trick for bitcoin is not the encryption, but the game theory
if you had a massive super computer, instead of ATTACKING the network for a couple of bucks, you could MINE FOR THE NETWORK and make more money

this kills any form of attack and it's the reason bitcoin has never been hacked

also, some people fail to realize that SHA3 exists already

[Anonymous No.15670284]

>>15670258
Ok. Always look out for threats. Failing to do so usually results in rape. The bad rape

[Anonymous No.15670308]

If they're saying this now it means they can already do it and could have done it 2 years ago.

[Anonymous No.15670361]

why mine the network if the profit is maxed at 12.5/block now, lees every halving... why not attack the network and leverage short beforehand.

[Anonymous No.15670464]

>>15670361
because it's more profitable

[Anonymous No.15670723]

I can’t beliece people aren’t taking this seriously

[Anonymous No.15670767]

>>15669272
>cope

[Anonymous No.15670780]

>>15670723
It's been taken seriously for a decade which is why everyone is ready for it. The Bitcoin community for example already has protocols for how to handle this exact situation. This would not even be the first time the most popular hashing function was broken.

[Anonymous No.15670842]

>>15669302
That’s where you’re fucking up. It’s difficult to attack a specific private/public key pair, but there are groups even now generating every possible public/private key pair for bitcoin until they find one that has an existing wallet.

They have already succeeded several times.

[Anonymous No.15671161]

>>15669726
but they are above the law.
they have simply gotten to big to bring down.
truth be told they have so much private info on the very politicians who could bring them down and anyone and everyone.
if there was any true threat to them they'd stop giving a shit and them assassinated or their lives ruined.
all google or facebook would have to do is show every deleted comment or private post that every politician has every done in their life and its over for them.

[Anonymous No.15671176]

Buy Snowblossom sirs

[Anonymous No.15671192]

>>15671161
Oh look a goolag shill.

[Anonymous No.15671211]

>>15669247
So then google really will become skynet...

[Anonymous No.15671241]

>>15669247
Google 72 Qubit
Qubits needed to crack wallerts , 2300 qubit

I say we are safe until 2035.

[Anonymous No.15671284]

>>15671192
how im i a shill for stating the obvious?
i mean google is literally part of the nsa/cia at this point.
i'm pretty sure they do alot more stuff under the table we'll never know about.
and facebook too is probably working with multiple government agencies in the same way.
how do you think they'd even get regulated?
i mean heck the cable/isp companies have arjit pajeet one of their own sitting as ftc head like in most cases the very politicians in these positions probably work for them.

[Anonymous No.15671357]

>>15671284
>How am I a shill if I recreate the "goolag is above the law dude" narrative
so you are a legit shizo?

[Anonymous No.15671391]

>>15670723
>18 posts by this ID
>every post followed by a reply telling you why you're retarded
>WHY WONT PEOPLE TAKE ME SERIOUSLY

[Anonymous No.15671411]

Has Vitalik made any comments on this yet?

[Anonymous No.15672105]

>>15669801
>Everyone thinks i'm crazy when I say that Trump (and his newly formed band of Senators) will absolutely destroy Google. He destroyed China in 6 months.

Based and true. Trump gives no fucks, if you fuck with the US he will fucking wreck you.

[Anonymous No.15672127]

>>15670013
Oh no, googles super duper computer can play a stupid board game rly guuud!

Tell me when it can command armies or build cities.

[Anonymous No.15672147]

>>15669319
The economy would’ve crashed by then due to climate genocide

[Anonymous No.15672155]

>>15669247
Bear porn omg aaaaa I am cooming

[Anonymous No.15672163]

>>15669247
That means CARDANO will own all the stinky linkie fags on chan

[Anonymous No.15672180]

>>15670842
Show me ONE example of a keypair collision being generated that had Bitcoin in the address. I will give you 100$ in bitcoin. No joke. Brainwallets DO NOT COUNT.

[Anonymous No.15672226]

>>15669247
buy nexus now

[Anonymous No.15672242]

>>15672180

I was just about to show you some brainwallets...

[Anonymous No.15672250]

>>15672242
Yeah well brainwallets aren’t actual collisions just dumb boomers and nerds using the bible and star wars quotes to make le quirky insecure wallets.

[Anonymous No.15672265]

>>15670176
This. Holding btc is like holding a pager thinking it will never be obsolete. Absolute state of mongoloids.

[Anonymous No.15672288]

>>15669268
Can't hardfork. Bitcoin is doomed.

[Anonymous No.15672361]

Can btc only be made more secure with a hard fork? Or is it possible without hardforking?

[Anonymous No.15672368]

>>15669756
>more money than god
They don't even have as much money as the Saudi royal family, stop treating them like a multi trillion dollar corporation.

[Anonymous No.15672372]

>>15672288
Honestly though all security is fucked like certs, ssh, etc.

[Anonymous No.15672381]

>>15672288
?
of course it can anon

[Anonymous No.15672390]

>>15672381
If it hardfoks it will be as centralized as every other scamcoin.

[Anonymous No.15672394]

>>15669298
That's not what solving chess means

[Anonymous No.15672471]

>>15672390
Not if there is consensus to do so, that’s the whole point of a hard fork. Lurk moar newfag

[Anonymous No.15672557]

>>15672471
There will never be consensus. Probably blockstream will want to change to some scheme to make them more money and further the NWO.

[Anonymous No.15672601]

>>15672557
oh so you’re a deluded cuck huh? you do realise bigger blocks is not the best way to scale, right?

[Anonymous No.15672612]

>>15672601
Bigger blocks require a hard fork so of course I don't want that.

[Anonymous No.15672627]

>>15672180
Here:
https://lbc.cryptoguru.org/trophies

[Anonymous No.15672653]

>>15669333
Cracking SHA256 might not be possible even with a quantum computer, but what about ECDSA?

There are a ton of wallets that are in P2PK (pay-to-pub-key) transactions instead of even just P2PKH(pay-to-pub-key-hash)/legacy ones. i.e. no need to crack any hashes, because these addresses have their public keys exposed.

The "Patoshi" coins (over a million coins) I think fall into this category... If anyone can implement Shor's algorithm in a theoretical quantum computer, these P2PK transactions might be the modern day equivalent of the city of gold.

[Anonymous No.15672655]

>>15669298
"just for fun"
is that implyng the ai saw ther world and decided "hey, im gonna learn chess?" because thats not how it works

[Anonymous No.15672729]

The important question is: buy alphabet stocks y/n?

[Anonymous No.15672733]

I'm glad I read an article from a scientific publication that wasn't trying to get clicks before coming here.
It just made Random numbers and couldn't correct for guaranteed errors inherent with quantum computers, so it was completely useless output but output faster than the traditional method could do it correctly.
Google didn't even claim to have done it, the paper was published online and then pulled, so it could have been filled with errors and no chance of passing peer review.

But hey, this board has a terrible record at posting anything true or worthy of the term "news". As long as people just react to the headline in the intended manner the purpose has been achieved.

[Anonymous No.15672767]

>>15669247
Money doesn't invalidate math.

>>15669247
There's quantum resistant encryption.
Most of the internet is fucked as it's running on shit breakable by a 100qbit system but you can survive the quantum advance.

[Anonymous No.15673194]

>>15669298
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxQ-VRq3y9E&t=19s

The Deepmind AI, is not what they make it out to be.. and the devs are dishonest about the "intelligence" of the machine.

[Anonymous No.15673485]

If they can crack Bitcoin, then they can also crack all banks and everything and become the king of the world.
A stupid fud designed to bait blockchain brainlets.

[Anonymous No.15674532]

>>15669247
yes

[Anonymous No.15674554]

>>15669247
Changing encryption is so extremely easy though.

[Anonymous No.15674653]

>>15673485
Banks can change their encryption, bitcoin cannot.

[Anonymous No.15674660]

>>15674554
Exactly, and quantum computers are fundamentally not reprogrammable. Which means they have to build a new one for each type of encryption.
However once they do build one that matches the current encryption type, they can easily funnel BTC. And if it's changed they can build a new one.
Which is very worrying. I have seen lots of people claiming "quantum proof" but never even read a single CONCEPT of how it might be stopped.

[Anonymous No.15674688]

>>15674653
Yes it can, you just need to get the majority of miners to switch to the new one, which they will do if the old one is compromised. (Or they will be outcompeted in mining by the quantum solver owners).

[Anonymous No.15674726]

Holy shit I just came up with an idea that solves everything.

[Anonymous No.15674743]

>>15669801
lel nice daydreaming faggot. Trumpstein's nose is so far up Israel's ass the good goy can't turn his head to look at anything else

[Anonymous No.15674746]

Lol cryptocucks BTFO fiat CASH MONEY SOUND MONEY WON
LolOlolOloLol0loL
What you gonna do now ya bums?
GET A JOB!

[Anonymous No.15674769]

>>15674726

what idea?

[Anonymous No.15674820]

>>15669247
>worlds best technology cracks 2^53 in 200 seconds
>thinks in 3 years it could crack 2^256 in a reasonable amount of time
just so you know this is like saying "we got a car to go 100 miles an hour, so in three years we should have cars going 100 trillion miles an hour"

[Anonymous No.15674891]

>>15674743
Trumps hates Israel. Those people are right when they say Trump is literally Hitler. He just has to be more clever about it. It's not as simple as just coming out and naming the Jew like back then. Not yet at least.

[Anonymous No.15674934]

>>15669247
load ze quantum fud

[Anonymous No.15675083]

>>15674820
you don't understand quantum computing.

[Anonymous No.15675153]

>>15670842
>but there are groups even now generating every possible public/private key pair for bitcoin until they find one that has an existing wallet.
no there aren't you retard. odds are you're going to die to old age 100 times before you find even one used wallet. it's a million times more efficient to just mine if you have the kind of computing power to try and find a random wallet

[Anonymous No.15675214]

>>15669247
Thats when my 10G IOTA will make me a billionare lol

[Anonymous No.15675224]

>>15669435
DO NOT Jewgle search anything with the word "supremacy" in it unless you want glowniggers on your property
>t. Actual /pol/tard who had a friendly visit by the police for some "words of advice" following some research using Jewgle

[Anonymous No.15675229]

>>15669490
>more than 10 years later
>the most immutable system mankind has ever seen
>NOTHING could bring it down during this time, despite being attacked by the biggest conglomerations, institutions, hackers, organizations and every mainstream media
>getting stronger than ever
>more adoption than ever
>"fake internet money!"
you boomer fucks never cease to amaze me with your sheer ignorance and absurd stupidity
no, I don't care if you are in your 20s, mentally you are an imbecile boomer fuck
enjoy staying poor for the rest of your life

[Anonymous No.15675267]

>>15675083
you don't understand exponentiation

[Anonymous No.15675277]

Its not that big of a deal https://crypto-markets.news/article/profile/239/google-claims-quantum-supremacy,-are-cryptocurrencies-at-risk?

[Anonymous No.15675297]

>>15669247
This is bs.

T. Cybersecurity guy

[Anonymous No.15675308]

>>15674769
Basically, replace the fixed encryption algorithm for bitcoin with an actual useful problem that requires a supercomputer. Every block a new problem (say a physics problem) is voted on through the use of a token. The problem with the highest offered prize is picked. Miners then pool together to solve the problem (using something like RLC to cloud compute it but obviously better). They then get paid BTC fractions for contributing.

There is no way for an individual to hijack the blockchain, since you are competing with the biggest supercomputer in the world (containing the hashing power of the majority of miners together).

You could try to pre-solve the problem, but since this is a useful problem, it would be more profitable to turn in the solution and scoop the token money rather than lose out on the token money for every single block and keep doing so consistently for a long time (which would be required to hijack the blockchain).

Also it would be quantum resistant since a new quantum solver would need to be built for each different problem.

Finally, this addresses the issue of energy waste that is often thrown at proof of work. The work is now being used to solve useful problems.

Also it might solve block size and time issues since miners are incentivized to work together using cloud computing... but I'm not too sure on this point.

[Anonymous No.15675312]

>>15672557
never be a consensus to protect bitcoin against quantum decryption? of course everyone will want to shoot themselves in the foot

[Anonymous No.15675333]

>>15675267
No, I do. I have a physics PhD.
>worlds best technology cracks 2^53 in 200 seconds
>thinks in 3 years it could crack 2^256 in a reasonable amount of time
In terms of quantum computing, switching to a 2^256 problem instead of a 2^53 problem would simply require something on the scale of building 256 quantum transistors instead of 53. The main problem with building ~200 more transistors on your machine is keeping the coherence. It is not a computing time issue.

[Anonymous No.15675492]

>>15675333
>No, I do. I have a physics PhD.
prove it, answer this, without googling
how to write the classical maxwell equations in a shorter form, going from 4 eq to 2? what is the idea and formalism behind this?

[Anonymous No.15675515]

>>15669247
nice fake news, looks like a lot of people on /biz/ just accepted this shit as real

[Anonymous No.15675579]

>>15675492
4chan doesn't have latex compatibility so I'm not gonna waste time trying to type that out. Also I don't remember any contraction from 4 to 2 equations anyway. Anyway, read up on quantum computers, because you don't understand them.

[Anonymous No.15675644]

>>15675579
fucking lmao, you fucking fraud
you don't need latex compatibility for this
and it's not something you can just forget
it's something you can answer in one simple sentence
I actually study physics, you clearly don't

[Anonymous No.15676228]

>>15675333
This. Its still unknown whether QC can even be scaled up to this point without succumbing to decoherence. My money is on no. Think about how other quantum phenomena conspire to stop you doing useful things, like superluminal communication. My guess is that it will be the same here.

No quantum computer has ever done a useful real world computation better than a classical computer

[Anonymous No.15676251]

>>15675644
lol you don't have to believe me. If you study physics then how come you don't understand quantum computers?
Also you asked me something i could have literally google, I got nothing to prove. Probably you meant the form of the equations for a zero charge region which is used for EM waves. That's not a reformulation, that's an application.

[Anonymous No.15676309]

>>15675333
>>15676228
The average poster on /biz/ doesn't understand how far apart 2^53 and 2^256 are. It's not "5 times more", each step up in the exponent is literally another order of magnitude. There are something like 2^80 elementary particles in the observable universe lol.

Let alone the fact that the protocol could easily switch to SHA-512 or whatever algorithm we wanted, and the points that >>15670152 and >>15670247 brought up

[Anonymous No.15676331]

>>15669247
What incryption

[Anonymous No.15676342]

>>15669247
if google hurries up, they might manage to suck my dick this very evening

[Anonymous No.15676575]

>>15669247
This spells doom for humanity.

[Anonymous No.15676617]

sha256 is already crackable since at least a couple of years and anything electronic is crackable

[Anonymous No.15676779]

>>15669402
>. I trust the developers to be able to update bitcoin so it becomes quantum safe.
this. if it even becomes a slight possibility, everything will just adjust, takes longer to hash, reward goes up. It is scalable.

[Anonymous No.15676820]

>>15669867
>MIT thinks they are a threat
MIT is not what it used to be
best and brightest turned into who has the highest melanin count

[Anonymous No.15677017]

>>15676820
>> thinks melanin has a correlation with intellect.

You’re an angry little retard aren’t you.

[Anonymous No.15677107]

>>15669726

The governments you're talking about love Facebook, they just don't live crypto because they can't control it.

[Anonymous No.15677637]

Gooogle ain’t gonna use supremacy on yo $100 dollar balance on ya trezor. Get over yo self

[Anonymous No.15677996]

>>15669773
>Segwitcoin is still Bitcoin
lol

[Anonymous No.15678046]

>>15669247
>Bitcoin’s 256bit encryption
>encryption
cringe

[Anonymous No.15678054]

>>15676617
wrong

[Anonymous No.15678213]

>>15678046
The signatures on every transaction in every block are asymmetrically encrypted using the owner's private key. That's why miners and nodes can verify the integrity of a transaction using the owner's public key.

[Anonymous No.15678315]

>>15677017
>You’re an angry little retard aren’t you.
found the nigger

[Anonymous No.15678316]

>>15669329
True. I dont think any computer fan 100% beat a man. It will always come down to chance at a certain point.
Just tic tac toe but more moves and you can’t tie.

[Anonymous No.15678322]

>>15669326
Encryption works by using massive prime numbers (since they are unique) to orient certain digital information into other information. The only reason encryption works right now is because the computers we have cannot calculate the outrageously large values produced by taking the number 2 and raising it to a prime number that is 1) unique and 2) 100 or more digits long in a meaningful amount of time. A current, non-quantum computer could absolutely bust this encryption, but it take literally billions of years to do it, making it effectively secure but not theoretically secure.

Quantum computers can make the same computations to bust the encryption significantly faster. Like, instead of literally billions of years, we're talking just years. At some point, there will be a flip in the arms race of digital security where quantum processor speeds outpace the ability of concurrent encryption.

HOWEVER, that won't last very long. The massive prime number we use for encryption have to be calculated using our current computing power. So, there's a time-cost overturn where it becomes non-functional to crunch larger and larger primes. As processing speed increases, it'll be that much easier to find massive prime numbers. So, encryption will be outpaced by attack vectors, but only temporarily until the same new tech used to bust old encryption is used to make new encryption.
Let's hope shit doesn't get fucky in the inbetween.

You're now aware that nothing that is digital is ever truly secure. It's only a matter of whether or not you're worth being a target.