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Title says all. Post strategies for not giving up your money to incompetent boomers so they can give it to retarded sub-humans and other dumb shit. I'll start:

I work as a software development contractor from my home in Japan. I have an Estonian E-Residency which allows me to set up a business there that I sell my services through. I pay 60 euros a month to a business service provider that gives me an address there, business banking, taxes, invoicing, etc.

Estonian tax rules specify I only pay tax when I withdraw profits from the company or pay myself a salary. So as you would expect, the rent for my apartment in Japan is "office rent" and my holidays are "business trips". When I need spending money I just pay a "bill" to an "IT contractor" who also happens to be my girlfriend.

I work mostly for Australian companies since they are on the same timezone and have the most disposable income to my exorbitant fees. My colleagues make less than me (because I'm fucking good), have to work in the office everyday, and lose another 40% of that to taxes.

PAYING TAXES IS FOR DUMB PEOPLE ONLY.

>> No.15484687
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>>15484663
Parker always suggested to pay taxes. That's the only crime they wouldn't commit in the Parker novels.
Tldr I pay taxes because Parker does.

>> No.15484703

>>15484663
i want to live in a country that wont poison me

>> No.15484728

Beta cuck faggots might think the shit I do to get around tax is immoral.

Let me remind you limp-wristed, micro-cocked, absolute untermench that every one of the fortune 500 that your dumb-nigger 401k invests in does all the shit I do plus 100x times more.

Once you hang out with actual wealthy people you learn they all do the same shit too. And they think the same way: paying tax is for dumb people.

>> No.15485125

Stake your crypto using ALGO, let it build up and pay your taxes with this, it's working for me bro. Easy money to be made here, and it allows you to focus elsewhere on spending your hard earned fiat moneys.

>> No.15485263

How can i avoid paying taxes as an electrical engineer in germanistan?
its not that easy to do.

pls give advice

>> No.15485298

I normally pay my taxes but can't crypto holders just keep most of their money in crypto and then just pay taxes on whatever they need to withdraw? Can the government even do anything against this?

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>>15485125
Please elaborate.

>> No.15485332

>>15484663
>so they can give it to retarded sub-humans and other dumb shit

Like scientists? Or engineers working on infrastructure?

What about things like ridiculously juicy contracts given to party donors? Why don't you get upset about shit like that?

>> No.15485344

>>15485263
>pls give advice

Be born rich and benefit from all the lobbying other born rich people have paid for.

>> No.15485345

>>15484663
Sounded borderline fine until the gf part. Greedy

>> No.15485346

I'm in the USA. I run MNs and I don't intend to cash out until 2021 at the very earliest.
My strategy is as follows:
>keep meticulous records of all my transactions
>cash out the median wage ($40k, $50k if head of house) at the current long term capital gains rate of 0%
>pay myself a middle-class wage every year and earn passive income from the masternodes as crypto matures through the market cycles to come
I'm content with this plan.

>> No.15485363

I'm an American Jew, I am exempt from paying taxes. Pay your taxes goys.

>> No.15485389

>>15484663
>When I need spending money I just pay a "bill" to an "IT contractor" who also happens to be my girlfriend.

Kek fucking based

>> No.15485391

>>15484663
im a self employed krautfag and I just deduct as much as I can from my income. literally every pencil and piece of paper I buy is office supllies, part of my rent is tax deductible because home office, books I buy are for research and also tax deductible. I pay an attorney a bunch of money to do all my tax which gives me even more money to write off. get a good jew lawyer they can work miracles but I still pay a boatload of taxes. what OP does would never work here btw because they treat foreign companies under kraut rules if you are a tax resident in the country. you cant just open a company in some tax haven you need to prove you have an office there and employees and whatnot.

>> No.15485399

>>15485332
>Like scientists? Or engineers working on infrastructure?

Name the latest 5 technological achievements done by governments cuck

>> No.15485509

>>15484663
Buy bitcoins, declare you lost password

>> No.15485545

>>15485298
>Keep your money in an unstable market, bro

>> No.15485600

>>15484687
what the fuck has Spiderman got to do with this

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>>15484703
Good luck finding that mate
Honk honk

>> No.15485637

Same boat as you OP. Write off a bunch of shit. During holiday season ill stock up on gift cards for groceries, booze, dept stores, etc, and write it off as gifts but then ill just go use those when i need new shit.

>> No.15485649

>>15484663
>Estonian tax rules specify I only pay tax when I withdraw profits from the company or pay myself a salary.

And what about Japanese tax rules? Ever heard of CFC rules? Enjoy Japanese prison for tax evasion waito piggu

>> No.15485688

>>15484663
>Doing all that but missing the crucial piece.
You can't live somewhere with CFC regs as this anon said >>15485649
CFC = Controlled Foreign Corporation

>> No.15485728

>>15485688
This, your Estonian company would still be considered taxable in Japan simce you control it from there

>> No.15485767

>>15485399
Literally everything scientific related is government subsidized.

I'd be more impressed if you could tell me 5 technological achievements that havn't been funded by a government.

>inb4 bitcoin
SHA256 was created by the US Gubment.

>> No.15485864

>>15484663
OP, you should stop thinking you're smart...arrogance will get you in trouble. You live in Japan, you're a tax resident in Japan. Are you a Japaneses Citizen? IF you want to resolve your tax issue you will have to look into the regulations in Japan in regards to changing your tax residency.
Not sure about japan but you need to move one of the below countries as they (to my knowledge) lack CFC regs. I'm sure some anons can add to that list. BTW Look up 'Flag Theory''.

Panama
Georgia
Costa rica
Nicaragua
Singapore
Hong Kong
Malaysia
Thailand
Bahamas
Bermudas
Dubai
Monaco
Every county has different rules btw

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>>15484663
Commendable sir. Anybody working to deprive the parasite class of blood money gets my moral support.

I try to avoid taxes as legally as possible. My method centers around being able to to convert my labor directly to capital without paying any taxes, then my income from investments being highly deductible. Here is what I do:
>Buy absolutely wrecked small apartment building that needs a lot of rehab work. Only 1% transfer tax
>Do as much of the rehab work as possible myself. Generating $30k-150k in untaxable equity. No payroll taxes, no income taxes.
>Fill apartment with renters + move in myself. Refinance out on best terms possible with a low rate personal mortgage. 0 taxes on money put in pocket through loan.
>Pay off loans with highly tax deducted rental income. Live for free in apartment building.
My effective total tax rate including property tax is absurdly low. I would rather not do it this way (lots of paperwork, lots of dirty and risky work), but not paying taxes is a moral imperative for me. Also, I'm getting wealthy at a pretty rapid pace for coming from zero just a few years ago.

>> No.15486202

>>15484663

Surely you also avoid using any and all infrastructure and services that are funded by taxes?

>> No.15486220

You faggots should be in jail

>> No.15486328

>>15484663
I know a lot of "non profits" don't use instead they just give themselves very high salaries that take up all the profits they would have had.

>> No.15486329

>>15486220
Why would you say that blue pilled faggot? Do you not understand tax? & what its for?

>> No.15486364

>>15485688
>>15485728
yeah I was alluding to that in this post >>15485391 no idea about jap tax laws but theyre probably similar to Germany. seems to me OP is a clueless retard who will get BTFO by the nip tax authorities because he figured he was too smart to get a good lawyer

>> No.15487096

>>15484663
How did you managed to not get ass raped by the company you're working for? I mean, they could just deny your work over and over again to lower their costs while you work more and more? I'm always a bit curious about that point when thinking about freelancing?

>> No.15487239

>>15486168
where do you live? i want to do that too

>> No.15487299

>>15487239
I think this method works just about anywhere, but I'm in the US in a landlord friendly state.

>> No.15487303

>>15485767
Television
Microwave oven
NAND HDDs
RTX 2080ti
iPhone.
Ya know, the things that people actually want. Not funding faggots who want to study frogs and shit that doesn't fucking matter. Get cucked nigger jew.

>> No.15487441

>>15485728
>>15485864
>>15485688

And how the fuck is Japan going to know about the money I get?

>> No.15487508

>>15487441
CRS (Common Reporting Standard), that's how! They already know most likely btw...
CRS is the RoW FATCA, I don't know how long you've been doing this...But they will know.

>> No.15487542

>>15486220
>blue id for a blue pilled fag

>> No.15487786

>>15487508

Looked it up. Japan doesn't tax me on foreign income.

>> No.15487916

>>15487786

Yes it does. You generate your income in Japan by working as a freelancer there. So they definitely want their cut.

>> No.15487939

>>15487786
WOW, what a tard answer! CFC regs can/do still apply. Speak to a tax adviser. DON'T BE ARROGANT!!! You didn't even know about CRS but all of a sudden you KNOW your ok?!?!?!?!?!?
Solutions can be had, but not with your attitude.

>> No.15487985

>>15485346
How do you earn that much through masternodes? There surely can't be that many suckers or money launderers.

>> No.15488025

>>15487939
>>15487985

Google "japan tax foreign income".

Appreciate the concern but it looks like I'm safe.

Also, I don't draw a salary from my Estonian business.

>> No.15488079

I love these tax evasion threads created and filled with retarded early 20 year olds who think they know everything lol keep it going lads!

>> No.15488092

>>15488079

Critique my set up then, boomer

>> No.15488128

>>15488079
What do you suggest betaboomer

>> No.15488158

>>15488092
For free? Lmao, no.

>> No.15488202

>>15488025
The income part is good. You still fail to understand cfc regs! The corporation its self is under jurisdiction of Japanese tax law. As I said, speak to a tax advisor anon, I know fuck all about Japanese tax system, BUT you are breaking their laws, Japan has CFC regulations.

>> No.15488204

>>15488158
Nice bluff bootlicker

>> No.15488247
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>>15488079
>>15488158
You seem really smart.
All of the really smart people I know insult people, act like the people they insult are arrogant, and then arrogantly declare they know more than them and the value of the knowledge they have is so much more valuable than the knowledge of the people they're insulting that they aren't worth correcting.
How many friends do you have?

>> No.15488391

>>15488247
Aaaand the ideas of evasion stop as soon as I spoke up. How come, i wanted to laugh more :(

>> No.15488408

Best part about this thread is when the retard 20 year old involved his girlfriend lmaoooooo

>> No.15488924

>>15487939
this Anon is correct
get gud kiddo

>> No.15488961

>>15488408
Are you going to chime in with good ideas, or are you going to pout that you aren't younger and smarter still?

>> No.15488963

If your an european register your company to Malta. You only pay 8% tax if you don't use Maltas infrastructure

>> No.15488975

>>15484663
My country doesn't have income tax.
5% VAT doesn't bother me

>> No.15489103

>>15488975
living the dream, what country?

>> No.15489204

>>15488079
>tax evasion
wrong country
no such thing in japan for foreign income

>> No.15489216

>>15484663
Not taxes but I ride my dirtbike w/o plates to work to not pay insurance

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I'm pretty sure I've lost 2k so far between crypto and stonks. Does this mean I can claim that as a capital loss and get 2k back on my taxes?

>> No.15489225

>>15488391
it's not about you all the time

>> No.15489313

>>15485332
if you're american, our infrasteucture is falling apart and none of the cash goes to fix it

>> No.15489362

>>15489313
This. I live in Boulder Colorado and a highway fell apart that is being fixed and when you follow the budget, it's crazy how much the government just pocketed under the excuse of private contracts.

>> No.15489388

>>15489362
Oh and the best part is that it looks like even though the contractor fucked it up, it's gonna be a taxpayer expense. Very nice love being free

>> No.15490142

>>15489217
I believe it effectivly lowers your taxes income by 2000, so if you made 60000 it's taxed at 58000, could be wrong.

Say you own 4 or 5 acres in the woods, could you put a few beehives up, sell at farmers markets and get agricultural tax exemptions on your property tax?

>> No.15490423

>US citizserf
>Reside in Taiwan
>Work in Taiwan
>Get paid in Taiwan
>Make less than $100K
>File US taxes with Foreign Earned Income Exemption
>Pay 9% income tax rate, 12% overall tax rate
>Buy Bitcorn
>Hodl Bitcorn
>No taxes on Bitcorn until whenever I sell/exchange it
>All 100% legal with no shenanigans
feelshaoren.png

>> No.15490485

>>15484728
>Let me remind you limp-wristed, micro-cocked, absolute untermench that every one of the fortune 500 that your dumb-nigger 401k invests in does all the shit I do plus 100x times more.
This. Bootlickers need to be gassed along with nationalists.

>> No.15490505

>>15490485
You low iq monkey

>> No.15490655

>>15484728
> rope

>> No.15490670

>>15490655
Futures

>> No.15490676

>>15485767

Governments don't have money, they have slaves and thieves with guns

>> No.15490686

>>15486220

And you will be shot too on the day of the rope

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>>15485600
No fucking spoderman pleb. Parker by Richard Stark. Mel Gibson plays him in Payback. The og novel was called The Hunter.

>> No.15491153

>>15487239
best bet is to look into a cheap cost of living city that has white people coming in to gentrify it.
You'll get cheaper land and eventually better tenants.

>> No.15491213

>>15489362
Ironically people got taxed hard to create all of the highways in America and connect everything and now they're just letting it fall apart. Only cities and towns with richer residents fund filling their potholes where i live. But that's it. Rarely do roads that aren't main roads get fixed and buildings never get fixed up. Just slap some paint on it and it's good.
Fuck all this crony shit bruv

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>>15491213

Hey your quality of life may be going to shit, but at least a bunch of unproductive people got lifetime pensions for putting in 20 years of chair warming while pretending to work.

>> No.15491281

>>15488247
If you go to college and you learn Tax Law, what do you think will happen? Is it likely you'll remain ignorant?

>> No.15491476

>>15491240
Thank you so much for giving yourselves these benefits and making us pay for it boomers. Also thank you for taking these benefits away from us once you finished extracting them.

>> No.15491484

>>15491476
BASED

>> No.15491589

>>15484663
How long have you been living in Japan? Also what kind of residence status to you have ? Been here on an engineer visa for over two years. You won't be taxed on foreign income in your first five years of stay in Japan, but after that you need to declare everything..
Enjoy your time here fren...

T. Fellow Eastern European in paradise

>> No.15491811

>>15487303
Are you really this retarded? All of these things could not exist without advances in basic research often only done in non profit governmental institutions as there is no immediate profit to be made.
Also tax evasion is obviously not the solution to inefficient and unfair government spending. Get fucked you egoistic assholes

>> No.15491924

>>15491240
>implying they'll ever get those pensions
hehe nothing personnel kid

>> No.15491945

>buy LINK
>don't tell anyone
>move to a tax haven in 2021
It is really easy.

>> No.15491946

>>15485125
flags.now.

>> No.15492165

>>15491924
Boomers will get their pensions, we won't get ours

>> No.15492170

>>15484663
Mass refusal to pay taxes should be a thing.

>> No.15492199

good luck OP
knew someone who did what you did and ended up 3yrs in jail with huge penalty on top. Though u might get away with it. It's called sham tax strategy.

>> No.15492221

>>15485125
>hi bot ID
>poo coloured
You've been outed straight away, Manvinder.

>> No.15492236

>>15492221
fortunately, im not a shitty skinned like you omar

>> No.15492316

>>15490485
Who's going to pay for your NEETbux when you gas everyone who pays taxes?

>> No.15492405

>>15485125
never trust a faggot that says bro. intelligent people dont even say bro in jest

>> No.15492440

>>15491281
You don't learn tax law in college. You learn tax law in law school. And most tax attorneys go on for an LL.M. specializing in tax as an extra year on top of the three years of law school, because the U.S. tax code really is that fucking complex.

Me? I'm just a stupid patent attorney.

>> No.15492490

>>15492440
The point to being made is that elitism is not the mark of intelligence. It's a choice in behavior.

>> No.15492513
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>>15486220
Bootlicker.

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>>15492170
Absolutely, especially because many in the government literally hate the average heritage american and hate the constitution and hate the bill of rights. I understand how Romans must have felt during their collapse period when various foreign barbarians were in charge of the Roman state.

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15492586

>>15486329
You need to

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15492649

Another general point. Your biggest expense in life will be taxes, and taxes only benefit those who will never make it or those who have made it so big that they now own the taxers. So its only smart to work as hard as you can to reduce your tax burden unless you live in a small homogeneous country thats fiscally responsible and doesn't give welfare to outsiders.

>> No.15492728

>>15492170
When are the Chan’s going to start memeing this outright? After 2020?

>> No.15493101

>>15486220
These faggots run the jail (gulag)

>> No.15493134

>>15484728
Seconded, I'm not going to fund wars and indecency.

>> No.15493138

>>15491811
That's just total bullshit.

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>>15491811
What the hell is your problem, brainlet?
These are rather ignorant words.

>> No.15493176

>>15486168
>Anybody working to deprive the parasite class of blood money gets my moral support.
aye, bruddah

>> No.15493215

>>15492405
bruh

>> No.15493225

>>15489103
Prolly Saudi Arabia.

>> No.15493228

OP back. Glad to hear this is resounding with the hivemind. As >>15492728 mentions, this idea will be meme'd into reality soon.

Bootlickers have raised cautions in this thread but you must remember they will only go after you if you make it easy for them.

- Make your setup complex as fuck.

- With Bitcoin you can make your money unconfiscatable. If they catch you being a bad boy you just lost the wallet keys.

- Set up your base in random-ass locations if you can.

MY MONEY IS MY FUCKING MONEY.

I WILL NOT BEAR THE BURDEN OF OTHER'S INCOMPETENCE.

>> No.15493241

>>15484728
There's a thin line between tax avoidance and tax evasion and you dun crossed that line son. Just don't cry when you end up in prison

>> No.15493272

>>15484728
Based and redpilled. Fuck paying taxes.

>> No.15493335

>>15492649

This is very important to understand.

If you excel in your career you'll find yourself in the top tax bracket for most of your working years. In most developed countries this around 40% of your annual income.

To put that in perspective, not paying tax on your 100k/year makes your salary equivalent to someone who makes 160k/year [who does pay taxes].

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>>15484663
DR;SP
>didn't read; still paying
the taxman is someone whose radar i'd rather stay under

>> No.15493352

>>15491589

Business manager visa for a business that earns nothing ;)

>> No.15493410

>>15492316
>ignoring the point
I lold

>> No.15493435

>>15493337
>>15493241
>>15491811
>>15490655
>>15488158
>>15488079
>>15486364
>>15486220

Slavemind.

>> No.15493555

>>15486220
Bootlicking faggot

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15493582

All using coin base: Bought 2000 worth of crypto went to 30,000 during bull Run down to 5k put some more money in during recent bull run and just sold for 10,000 by buying silver and gold with it using bit pay and SDbullion. Am I fucked how do I avoid?

>> No.15493601

A lot of people in this thread are going to go to jail and it's going to be hilarious.

>> No.15493612
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>>15493228
No, seriously, how do we organize something big, decentralized, and solely online?
We need to get norman to talk about it in public - that's key - all while remaining anonymous on our computer screen. No infiltrated marches, no Richard Spencer™ meetups and no "le this totally isn't a fed guys, everyone follow his advice".
Maybe it could be IOTBW-esque.
/pol/ would be highly intrigued by this. thoughts?

>> No.15493620

Any tips for US residents? I've been thinking about starting a photography business to lower my tax burden. I already shoot as a hobby and do some paid work once in a blue moon, so it seems like a no brainer. Pretty sure I can easily claim all my equipment, the spare room in my apt as office space, phone bill, travel expenses, etc.
I work full time in tech (CA) and am getting cucked hard on taxes - send help

>> No.15493652

>>15493620
Or you could not live in the most retarded state in the entire republic and be savable.

>> No.15493696

>>15484663
Good job sir, can you point me to the best source for info on Estonia E-residency? I was planning on using Panama with a $5,000 bank deposit.

For country tax summaries I use
https://dits.deloitte.com/#TaxGuides

>> No.15493752

>>15492513
>>15493272
>>15493435
>>15493555
You literally use public services everyday, and even if you personally somehow don't when you're doing business in the country you live in you're providing off of public services.

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15493771

>>15493752
Okay, keep going.
Make sure to tell us why that matters by the end of your moronic drivel.

>> No.15493789

>>15493771
>why does supporting society actually matter
uhhh idk what would happen if everyone stopped paying taxes?

>> No.15493808

Just laughing so hard at retards who pay tax :DDDDDDDD How stupid do you have to be to think that money actually goes to "infrastructure" :D

>> No.15493816

>>15493696

Google: Estonia E-residency, Xolo, Transferwise Borderless account, establishing yourself as a non-resident for tax purposes in your current country, and countries that do not tax foreign income

>>15493620

Not a bad but IMO if you like tech just focus your energy on mastering your specialty and move into consulting via a business set up outside the country. Work remotely and spend enough time time out of the country to claim non-residency for tax pursposes.

>>15493601

There is always risk anon. There is risk I get audited by a giga-nigger/hook-nose hybrid that will chase me to the end of the earth for their hand-out, but I minimize the chance of that with my setup and evaluate the benefits to be worth it.

Do no shame me for doing what you are incapable/afraid of doing.

I DO THINGS THAT OTHER'S DO NOT DO,
I GET THINGS THAT OTHER'S DO NOT GET.

>> No.15493822

>>15488158
fag

>> No.15493823

>>15493816
fuck off you cheating faggot

>> No.15493826

>>15493823
Hahaha keep pay taxes goy :D

>> No.15493833

>>15493823

see

>>15484728

>> No.15493840

>>15490423
you can't have a 12% rate going through self-employment tax? LARPing?

>> No.15493842

>>15493826
>le funny pol meme xD

>>15493833
>actually everyone cheats so by me cheating im actually just making it fair
Why does every criminal think this way? Just a way to cope? Literally every black person that steals cars or breaks into peoples houses has that justification.
>actually it's da white man that always be stealing from US so therefore we is just getting ours back

>> No.15493847

Roads, power, public sanitation, water are all provided by taxes.

I agree, I want to pay LESS taxes, but they are an unavoidable reality and you are kidding yourself if you can get away with not paying any and you are being an entitled piece of shit if you think your taxes don't pay for anything you use.

>> No.15493849

Why should I care at all if I use something paid by other peoples taxes

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>>15493847

>> No.15493880

>>15493842

Your argument is moot. Stealing and avoiding theft of one's labour are different things. Stealing is immoral. Refusing to pay the bill for a broken system is not. See>>15493856


I'm not coping, I'm trying to help you.

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15493888

At what income level does it make sense to go to these lengths to not pay taxes?

Can I do something like this in the USA and have it be actually legal?

>> No.15493902

>>15493880
But it's not theft, it's how you have a functioning society. You probably don't want to live in a country where no one pays taxes.

>> No.15493904

>>15493902
There will always be low iq retards who pay taxes so there is nothing to worry about

>> No.15493909

It depends if you can.

You need to be able to find work as a freelancer/contractor/consultant and able to live and work outside your current tax residence long enough to claim non-resident for tax purposes.

Basically, work in IT and be good at it.

>> No.15493913

>>15493902

So men with guns forcefully removing money from people who will be shot if they do not comply is not theft? How do you define theft then? Guns are not an argument.

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>>15493816
>Xolo
Can you please explain. When I google I get a dog breed and a mobile phone company. Thanks for info love that bank account.

>> No.15493921

>>15493914

xolo.io

>> No.15493926

>be me
>be a Brazilian museology professor
>parents actually wealthy (even taking into consideration international standards)
>still got my education, masters, doctorate and even my recent PhD paid by taxpayers
>tenure in a huge public university
>get paid fairly well (for local standards) to work an average of 400 hours every year
>I developed my classes over five years ago and spend a ridiculously low amount of time updating them every year
>so little time spent talking or explaining things, most of the classes I just leave the students debating and filling time
>tried giving actual tests one semester and then decided to give up, too many things to grade, just stick with seminars, group essays and shit like that
>80% of the legwork involved in my publications is done by competent students that I select and end as second or third authors
>honestly fucked a different student every one of those five years
>was voted best professor last year
>0 taxes paid because all my income originates from theft and no one knows about my crypto holdings
I mean, if you live in a corrupt hellhole, might as well take advantage, public sector is great if you can exploit it.

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>>15493789
You tell us, brainlet.

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>>15490746
The Lee Marvin version of that book was much more kino.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_Blank_(1967_film)

>> No.15493945

>>15493856
Notice how a lot of those things I mentioned aren't there?

Because they aren't federal.

>> No.15493946

>>15493913
Read about the social contract

>> No.15493947

>>15493880
Oh boy it must suck pretty hard to have to go to work tomorrow, wagie.
Are you excited to earn all of that Monopoly paper tomorrow?
Just don't forget to not spend it on food and to give it away to someone you don't know who gives you nothing so that you don't starve because you're dependent on them

>> No.15493949

>>15493921
>xolo.io
Awesome!
https://stripe.com/docs/atlas was what I was thinking of using but xolo seems better for what I want to do. Any tips on how to get work? I started using upwork this week with no response :( I React.js and AWS backend stuff

>> No.15493961

>>15493945
What, specifically, does our city provide that we're intending to avoid paying for?
Can you name these things?

>> No.15493975

>>15493902
>But it's not theft, it's how you have a functioning society.

Then how did America become a world superpower before social security, medicare, and medicaid existed?

>> No.15493991

>>15493975
kek they never know history...
The answer, of course, is Tariffs.
Don't let the normies find out, though, they'll realize they've been lied to all of their lives.

>> No.15493996

>>15493961
I literally stated them in my first post.

The infrastructure you're currently using to power your shitposting ability is maintained through taxes.

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>>15493975
>>15493991

>> No.15494008

>>15493946

There is no such thing, that's just a set on conventions whereby people interact with each other. You cannot change the definition of theft so you avoid defining it. Thanks for conceding.

>> No.15494051

>>15494008
Theft is a social construct.

>> No.15494057

>>15494001
That's weird.
Why is local so small, but federal is so big.
I thought the majority of my taxes go towards things that I use...

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>>15493996
I pay for my power. Private companies can easily build roads. Hell, they already do, the local government just contracts people to do it... which seems like a waste of money.
Oh, and I pay for my water, which I also pay for them to poison.
Poor norman...

>> No.15494096

>>15493949

Neat, glad it helps.

Getting good work is a slog. Only way to get better work is by build your folio/resume with big names/good projects and so on. You want to get off upwork and contract directly ASAP though.

Always be trying to get a bigger, better gig but also make yourself irreplaceable at your current gig. Be prepared to get "No"-ed plenty to times before a "Yes".

It's hard work for sure but -> do what other's don't do; get what other's don't get.

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>>15494096
Got it! Going into sales mode as we speak. Thanks for your help anon

>> No.15494136

>>15494057
You use the liberty provided to you by the federal government, every day.

>> No.15494137

>>15494051

You're a social construct

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>>15494136
I guess that's true, since they infringed upon my right to bear arms, making me reliant on that very privilege of liberty.
It's almost like we had a fix for that...

>> No.15494175

>>15494136
>Liberty provided
Kek, a communist. The job of a central state is only external defense. No reason to get taxes to fund the life of lazy boomers enforcing and coming up with retarded regulations

>> No.15494192

>>15488025
Link? I doubt you're correct, I've never heard of Japan being a territorial tax country. I myself live in Thailand/Malaysia/Philippines 100% of the time which are actual territorial tax countries so I pay no taxes legally.

>> No.15494212

>>15494175
Liberty is manufactured by external defense of the state, and it is then distributed according to need and merit.

>> No.15494218

>>15494192
unless you're a non-resident and just stay there as a tourist, then that would actually make sense.

>> No.15494234

>>15494192

Google it. I'm still a non-resident.

>> No.15494245

>>15494234
well yeah in that case sure, you never pay taxes to a country where you're not a resident. But japan is not a territorial tax country

>> No.15494259

>>15494234
but if you're a japan citizen spending a lot of time in Japan, you're definitely at high risk of them considering you a resident. If you're not a japan citizen or spend most of the time outside of Japan, you're all good

>> No.15494331

>>15493435
look anon I hate paying taxes like everybody else. but I was running half-baked tax avoidance schemes just like you for years. even considered an estonian company for a while and have the e-residency. well turns out I missed a technicality in the German tax code and ended up having to pay backtaxes for several years even though I wasnt even living in the country. almost rekt me financially. it is very easy to fuck this up thats why I recommend getting a lawayer, I wont even take a shit anymore without having it cleared by my lawyer first. tax agencies can break your neck and they wont think twice about it. Godspeed.

>> No.15494343

>>15494331
and while Im not familiar with japanese tax laws what you do sounds borderline illegal and like tax evasion to me. again I dont know the jap laws but here in Germany they can bust you 10 years after if they want and with international banking laws and digitalisation they will only gather more and more data on you to bust you over time. so again dont know your situation but if you are breaking the law (and you probably are) then I really wouldnt be so smug about it.

>> No.15494350

>>15494331
>>15494343
>>15493435
Don't listen to this guy, anon. I think you should be smug, particularly about breaking the law.

>> No.15494354

>>15494331
>>15494343
Tax evaders on suicide watch

>> No.15494357

>>15484663
i think what you are doing is "illegal" and you are going to "jail" for it

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>>15484663

You realize your girlfriend has to pay income tax in her resident country on those "bills" right? You haven't found a loophole you're just stupid enough to think you have. And once a tax authority determines you've cheated they will audit you and make you pay for all those "biz trips," "office rent," + interest + fines + jail time

>> No.15494396

>>15494331
>>15494343

Appreciate the concern but I got my setup cleared by 2 Australian tax laywers [for establishing non-residency] and a Japanese one.

>>15494354
>>15494350

Cope is strong with this one.

>>15494380

On her end it's a "gift" ;)

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>>15484663
Based. Fuck the taxman. Fuck the welfare bums

>> No.15494413

>>15491240
I love John Taylor Gatto.

>> No.15494435

hell, if you have enough money to think about whether or not you should hire a lawyer, it's probably worth hiring a lawyer.
otherwise, if the IRS is desperate enough to go after someone for a few thousand dollars, there's probably a lot more you should be worrying about.

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>>15493612
Just get people into Bitcoin Cash. They are all about dodging tax. Have all the grey markets ready to go at Bitcoin.com
Earn in Bitcoin
Shuffle Bitcoin
Spend in Bitcoin
All off the books

>> No.15495693

>>15493620
If you say it's a hobby then the IRS will likely view it the same way. Generally, you can deduct any expenses for hobbies to the extent of your revenues from said hobby (no losses to offset other income).

Keep in mind home office expense is a good way to get an audit.

>> No.15495918

I like paying taxes; it's the price of civilization, and look at all the wonderful public services I get! Why are Americans are so bitter about basic their basic responsibility to society?

>> No.15496004

>>15495918
do you own your own business?

>> No.15496023

>>15494396
Surprised to see this /thread still up.
>Appreciate the concern but I got my setup cleared by 2 Australian tax laywers [for establishing non-residency] and a Japanese one.
You say you're not a resident in Japan but claim to live there, More details are needed, How long have you lived there? Sounds like you're a Aussie originally how did you prove to them you're no longer a tax resident there? I fail to see how you're getting around Japans CFC regs.

>>15495918
>I like paying taxes; it's the price of civilization, and look at all the wonderful public services I get!
Is this Satire?
>Why are Americans are so bitter about basic their basic responsibility to society?
Only smart people figure out what taxes actually get used for...You're clearly not one of them.

>> No.15496127

>>15495918
niggers

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>>15495918
This is either satire or you are in a European country that's still 90%+ white and hasnt felt the true burden of 3rd world immigration. There is one truth about civilization: on average, only white and asian men pay net taxes. Everyone else is having their lifestyle artificially enhanced while mine is diminished. There will never be any payoff for me or my family, only an eternity of being treated like farm animals by do-gooders.

>> No.15496197

>>15493816
>establishing yourself as a non-resident for tax purposes in your current country, and countries that do not tax foreign income
As we already told you several times, your foreign corporation is treated as tax resident in Japan. Your income is not "foreign income" because you are actively performing it in Japan. Maybe you should not start a tax thread when you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. For an example of how you make a tax thread, please see thread I made in 2017

>>/biz/thread/S6234303

>> No.15496234

>>15494192
>Thailand
Just so you know, if you are actually working in Thailand i.e. you are doing the work while physically living in Thailand (does not matter if it is for a foreign company) then what you are doing is not legal. Not being enforced because a shithole country can't do it, and being legal is not the same thing.

Thailand territorial taxation only applies if 1) you do not work for the income in Thailand, e.g. you receive dividends from foreign companies and 2) you do not move the money to Thailand in the same year as it is earned

>> No.15496310

>>15496140
>burden of 3rd world immigration
most industries rely on the labor of the poor for mass production, and in return, they rely on the mass consumption of the poor. All countries run on: food, energy, chemicals, and information systems. The poor make up the majority of all countries, and the poor consume and make up a majority of these industries.

3rd world immigration has no negatives, and is a net boon for any country, despite the aesthetic ugliness.

>> No.15496331

>>15484728
Based, my dad runs his own buisness, and does this. Literally everyone who owns their own business just funnels expenses through their own company

>> No.15496503

>>15496197
Thanks Anon for the link to /thread!

>>15496310
actually based, I find it a shame that people blame immigration/welfare/pensions on tax...These things do not effect tax, tax is collected solely to pay the national debt interest.
In the UK as an example they are sluggish with the birth rate 1.76 per couple last time I checked. This is bad for the Gov/CBs as are housing/Mortgages are the bread & butter of newly created currency (debt). (((They))) can't afford for house prices to fall, It would create a shortfall on the funds needed to fund the Mortgage hodlers.

TL:DR countries need to keep the population neutral or growing for creation of new currency.

>> No.15496754

>>15496197
>>15496023

Been 2 years almost so not considered a permanent resident yet. So my foreign income is not taxed.

>your foreign corporation is treated as tax resident in Japan

I will look into it but this sounds like some real hook-nose bullshit. My foreign corporation is a tax resident of Japan? What in the name of david's start is this?

>> No.15496969

>>15496754
>Been 2 years almost so not considered a permanent resident yet.
>permanent resident
Dude, I struggle to see how you're not a tax resident! Permanent residency & tax residency are separate! Come clean you've never spoken to a tax adviser! You don't even know the difference between basic terms.
>Sounds like some real hook-nose bullshit.
It is, all tax law is
> My foreign corporation is a tax resident of Japan?
b/c you are dummy, CFC, You are CONTROLLING a Foreign corporation FFS, Can't you even read the title of the laws your breaking!

You're beyond help Anon! Speak to a professional tax adviser/psychiatrist, Hope one of them can show you how your fucking this up for yourself.

>> No.15497013

>>15496969
No anon! You are the dumb shill marching to the beat of the soviet machinery of capitalist bureaucracy!
You are a boot licker!
I am smarter than you and everybody like you!!
You are uncool, and I am cool!
You are unhip, and I am so hip!!
I am millionaire, and you are but a peasant!!!
The REAL lesson in this game is GREED! That's what all the cool kids are doing, and I won't be left behind!!! Hur dur.

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>>15496310
>>15496503

Wrong, wrong and wrong.
>most industries rely on the labor of the poor for mass production
Countries and companies run on technological advancement, something almost exclusively done by asian and white men. Global rate of major tech break throughs per capita has fallen 75% in the last 200 years. Your hamburger isnt cheap because Paco works in the meat processing plant, its cheap because white dudes invented refrigeration and the automobile.
>The poor make up the majority of all countries, and the poor consume and make up a majority of these industries
Why isnt Zimbabwe rich by your logic: nothing but poor hungry blacks as far as the eye can see that are willing to work for $1 a day, yet everyone is unemployed and starving
>3rd world immigration has no negatives, and is a net boon for any country, despite the aesthetic ugliness
you mean other than accelerated IQ decline, lower social trust, decreased school performance, increased government corruption and the elimination of national unity? Man, totally worth the short term increase in GDP so bankers can keep their ponzi scheme going for another 25 years.


>>15497013
>wanting the government to steal other peoples shit so you can receive a cut of the proceeds, isnt considered greed
yeah ok, sick sarcasm bro

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>>15496969

Google "japan tax non-permanent resident"

First result from the National Tax Agency of Japan:
>Non-permanent Resident (A resident taxpayer of non Japanese nationality who has had domicile or residence in Japan for an aggregate period of five years or less within the last ten years.)

That wasn't hard was it?

Attached is more spoon-feeding for baby's temper-tantrum.

>> No.15497248

>>15496754
>I will look into it but this sounds like some real hook-nose bullshit. My foreign corporation is a tax resident of Japan? What in the name of david's start is this?
ITT anon gets redpilled on international tax laws

>> No.15497445

>>15497229
KEK, Zoomer Mutt spotted.
Zoomers are responsible for IQ decline, quit being niggers! Prove to me you can read, read the below before you blame niggers!
https://www.sciencealert.com/iq-scores-falling-in-worrying-reversal-20th-century-intelligence-boom-flynn-effect-intelligence

>>15497242
>That wasn't hard was it?
Your head, pretty fucking hard obviously, solid in fact! Shame you don't understand CFC regs. Keep look up the same BS to get the Confirmation bias answers. You're going around in circles. Shame you still don't understand what 5-6 anons have been telling you, repeatedly.
Bye Anon, best of luck

>> No.15497482

>>15497445
I said *accelerated* IQ decline. Secular IQ decline is caused by the welfare state artificially keeping poor retards in the gene pool.

>> No.15498516

>>15494057

Wars are expensive but not as expensive as jewish bankers at the federal reserve.

>> No.15499171

>>15484663
Just be a NEET and make less than $10k
Pretty doable

>> No.15499682

>>15493946
So only a select portion of the populace (White men) have to uphold their end? Everyone else gets to be a degenerate fag? Fuck off you boot licking cuck

>> No.15499809

>>15493410
>ignoring the point
I lold

>> No.15500193

>>15490423
>US citizen
>Reside in Taiwan
>Work in Tai-What wait
>Whats happening?!?
>The PLA have started a blockade around the island??
>O-Oh no they have boots on the ground for "reintegration"

Best of luck friend but you better hope for kidney failure as its your best bet for looking yellow enough to pass as an ethnic Han