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Is there any hope of making it if you're a highschool dropout living in Canada?

>> No.15414660

depends how smart you are

>> No.15414750

>>15414647

trading shitcoins/make your own business

a job is just signing up to be an eternal wagie

t. leaf

>> No.15414755

>>15414647
No

>> No.15414767

>>15414750
I don't have skills or capital or knowledge to start a business though. And trading shitcoins seems impossible

>> No.15414775

>>15414767
Get to it then the longer you wait the longer it’s gonna take

>> No.15414777

>>15414647
Fucking retard just do adult night school to make up the credits you need. Most courses are available online. What courses are you missing? You don't even have to do calculus or advanced functions you really just need 12th grade English to graduate (if you live in Ontario at least).

Then once you have your diploma go into a community college IT program with co-op. If you work hard your first job should pay at least $32 an hour. It's like 1400 a semester. Don't have the money just apply for financial aid (OSAP) the program costs like 6000 in total you can pay that off in a year. You can literally do this in less than 2 years assuming you didn't drop out in the 9th grade or something.

>> No.15414789

>>15414777
>What courses are you missing?
I only have 2 grade 12 courses and im missing some "required courses". I was trying to do advanced functions and physics but it was too hard for me and I failed already.

does community college really pay so high?

>> No.15414793
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>>15414647
earn sales commissions slut

>> No.15414813

>>15414789
Yes dude if you go into an IT program with a co-op stream they will find you a job if you have a 3.0 gpa. I went to Seneca and got hired immediately as a sysadmin. If you like this type of shit it's easy as fuck. What college/university you go to doesn't matter what matters is getting actual job experience. You don't have to go to some faggy university and go 80k in debt. It's not worth it unless you go into the hard sciences or a really good business school like Rotman.

>> No.15414817

>>15414647
You deserve to fail if you drop out of high school.

>> No.15414822

>>15414647
>living in canada
Do teachers even need a bachelors degree there? Just do that

>> No.15414832

>>15414813
Is this really true anon? Some of the people I went to highschool with they went to college and ended up with some dead-end tech support ~$40k/yr job afterwards. I wanted to try to get my way into a university so I could become smart and get a good job. Do employers really see you as a non-subhuman when you apply with a college diploma?

>> No.15414845

>>15414832
Duh. They are straight up sociopaths. That's basically true like 95% of the time.

>> No.15414866

>>15414793
>>15414647
this or buy UND with a wagie check, should be worth enough to get yourself a starter pack home and car next year

>> No.15414911

>>15414832
I am speaking from my own personal experience. If you just coast through college with bare minimum effort then yes you will end up at worst with some deskside support job. But again the key thing is getting a good co-op placement. It's not hard to separate yourself from the rest of the people at a college. 90% of the students (your competition) are absolute retards who don't even want to be there. I got a placement with IBM in Markham. It wasn't easy though I was a lab assistant and I worked a part-time job. Don't fall for the weird stigma against colleges. Is it better to go into a compsci undergrad at Waterloo? Of course it is. But it's also 10x more expensive, takes twice as long to complete and you obviously don't have the grades to get into it anyways. I knew people in high school who went into some faggy liberal arts or law school and they would kill to make $20 per hour. Teaching and law are overcrowded fields right now.

>> No.15414924

>>15414911
I wanted to study business or software engineering or something. That stigma you mention about colleges is what i've always been hearing from literally everyone though.

Were the co-op placements good, or was yours just special?

>> No.15414963

>>15414924
From how I understand colleges work with employers and they are guaranteed a certain amount of co-op spots for their students. So for example the college I went to had like 2 spots at IBM, a certain amount of spots at Royal Bank and CIBC, etc. So there are good placements at big companies and these are obviously reserved for the best students and then there are less good placements at smaller companies. But the point is if you have the bare minimum GPA you will get SOME type of job. The harder you work the better placement you will get. It's up to you. My suggestion is to separate yourself from the rest of the pack which again is not hard considering most people who go to college are stupid as fuck. Like I said I was a lab assistant in one of the scripting/automation courses so that helped me. Or get some type of certification (like a CCNA).

>> No.15414974

>>15414963
How long ago did you do this? What did the co-op pay? I am hoping they make university free again in ontario then i can just go there as an option

>> No.15415000

>>15414974
>>15414974
January 2014 it was like $23 for a 4 month term. Then I went back and did my final semester. My manager liked my so he hired me back on a 1 year contract after I got my diploma. I then got hired directly 9 months into the contact. I no longer work there but I gained valuable experience and now I do infosec. I wouldn't wait though Ford just got elected so it won't be "free" again anytime soon. At the very least dude get your high school diploma it's free and you and can do it online from home. If you are interested in software engineering at a good university then you will need to get at least an 80-85 on calculus/functions and physics/chem.

>> No.15415016

>>15415000
anon im working fulltime as a low-tier wagie. Im just losing hope because im so tired and can't think properly after a long day of being a cuck. i dont want to fail the online courses anymore im going to use khanacademy

Is there still hope for me, do you think i can make it if i really work at it? Im getting older and older and i feel like a boomer. no one wants to help me in real life my parents want to kick me out too

>> No.15415078

>>15415016
It sounds like you're lacking in the fundamentals so yes brush up on them before you start any courses. Why do your parents want to kick you out when you're working? Do you have to work full time? Ideally you could work part time like maybe 20 hours a week and that would give you plenty of time for self-improvement. But that depends on you getting some support from your parents which it sounds like you don't have at the moment. Maybe try talking to them about how you want to go back to school and you need their support. Honestly dude university sounds like a lofty goal for you. It's not easy and it will take 4 years and a lot of money to complete. College might be your best option. Just look into some programs.

>> No.15415119

>>15415078
Thank you and they want to kick me out because they are disappointed in me they wanted me to get an education and i kept telling them I'd eventually apply (they don't know i dont even have the courses done).

They said they would help me with the money for university when i go anyway and i live far from any college so I'd literally need to commute for hours a day or move out for it anyway. (Dont think it's a good deal to move out just for community college) I just want to make it and be proud of myself but i think you may be right and i should just complete the college instead.How do I make a plan for what i will do afterwards? like you with the infosec

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>>15414793
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>> No.15415161

>>15415119
>How do I make a plan for what i will do afterwards? like you with the infosec
These are just skills you pick up on the job. That's why getting a good co-op placement or internship is far more valuable than whatever college or university you go to. The reason why I'm pushing college so much is because it will get you in a position to obtain actual job experience as quickly as possible. Maybe others will disagree with me but again I can only offer my own personal experience. Don't get so hung up on what school you go to. Most software engineers and IT professionals in general who are worth their salt are self-taught anyways.

>> No.15415171

>>15415161
I just thought for colleges they only offered up brainlet-level co-ops and other opportunities because why would a big employer go there rather than to the countless graduates of a large university? And alumni usually tend to recruit for the school they went to as well. Maybe im just dumb or ive been told wrong though

>> No.15415180

>>15414647
Yes. Lots of jobs require no education. Get one and use it as a stepping stone.

>> No.15415195

>>15414647
>Canada

nope.dmg

>> No.15415367

>>15415171
You’re not wrong that big companies tend to recruit from big schools. But when you have a generation of kids who were fooled into 4 year liberal arts degrees (which is definently what happened in Ontario) we have a shortage of skilled workers in IT. Only now are we starting to pivot and redirect our curriculum towards STEM.

>> No.15416116

>>15414817
your a cunt, no one likes you.