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15268819 No.15268819 [Reply] [Original]

Literal zombie bank in its finest definition.
If It goes under 6.4$, the bank will not be able to sustain itself.
I guess lads this is it, the foretold economic collapse is upon us.

>> No.15268842

>>15268819
The floor is actually like $5.95 or some shit where it becomes insolvent.

>> No.15268846
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>>15268819
Green ID btw.
We will all make it.

>> No.15268865

>>15268819
>>15268842
Can one of you actually show the math on these figures? Why does $6.40 or $5.95 mean insolvency?

>> No.15268883

>>15268865
I don't know but losing 95% of your valuation over a decade can't be good.

>> No.15268888

priced in

>> No.15268896

>>15268865
they cant because share price means nothing to a company

>> No.15268932

>>15268865
At $5.95 a share the bank can no longer maintain their debt as it is currently structured. They would be forced to file bankruptcy using the restructure clause. This would however trigger a Lehman moment that would trigger a massive selloff and destroy any chances of a restructure.
The most likely scenario is it would be broken up and any assets would be sold off and the debt would be written down or sold off as well.

>> No.15268935

Why would a german bank crash the world economy?

Genuinely curious

>> No.15268961

>>15268935
It wouldn't, it's too small to matter already.

>> No.15268977
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>>15268819
>>15268865
>>15268932
closing price is 5.88 today ...

>> No.15268997

>>15268935
Saying "German Bank" is like saying "Central Bank of EU." The EU *is* Germany.

>> No.15269003

>>15268932
Yeah I figured this was the case, basically their debt is backed by their stock price

>> No.15269019

>>15268977
In euros, not USD.

>> No.15269034
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>>15268935
Pic related is why

>> No.15269047

>>15269034
That pic literally doesn't mean shit wtf lol

>> No.15269081

>>15269047
They have exposure to all the worlds largest banks, and it means nothing....
Thank you for confirming that you are in fact a brainlet, and your opinions will be discarded.

>> No.15269095

is crisis soon?

>> No.15269105

>>15269081
Fuck you I fucked your mother you nigger

>> No.15269135
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>>15269047
>That pic literally doesn't mean shit wtf lol
>Fuck you I fucked your mother you nigger
Hello Hans Shekelmann

>> No.15269136

Every big bank is insolvent. You are not smart.

>> No.15269154

You are not smart. Every big bank is insolvent

>> No.15269176

>>15268997
This. It’s over for the EU after deutsche. Italy will leave as a result then the PIGS and then the euro dissolves

>> No.15269188

>>15269047
Congrats. This is the dumbest post on biz today.

>> No.15269200

so buy some DB Jan 2021 leaps?

>> No.15269217

>>15268819
time to buy?

>> No.15269230
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>>15268935
Two largest banks in de are DB and commerzbank, they hold about 2 trillion in assets, or about 50% of de's gdp. Commerz is in the shitter also. You add in the landesbanken, and its about 100% of gdp. Germony is shrinking its debt, which means less bonds sold in the EU, and thus less liquidity. Italy suffers because of this, along with the trade and labor exchange the bond result in. All the euro now flow to germany(and france) the only nations that actually benefit from the EU. Now in response, the central banks lower to negative interest rates. So now money is so cheap everyone is borrowing and will fuck the system. Oh yeah, DB alone has 49 trillion in derivative exposure. Read that again.

>> No.15269321

>>15269188
I fucked your entire family you cunt li p

>> No.15269329

>>15269176
rolling for this
fuck the eussr

>> No.15269338
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>>15269230
THE RIDE
>IT NEVER ENDS

>> No.15269342

>>15269230
who cares banks are jewish scams we don't need them anyways

>> No.15269347

>>15269321
You need to be 18 to post here, biotrash.

>> No.15269360

>>15269047
Retard. Underage

>> No.15269408

>>15269230
Don't know how bad the US will get hit but holy fuck the EU will be in a massive crisis soon. 49 trillion lmao, fucking idiots.

>> No.15269602

>>15269347
>>15269360
I'm over 18 you spergs, ask your mothers I had a 3 some with them and she swallowed my yellow nut

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>> No.15269676

>>15269656
Ingenious post

>> No.15269683

>>15268935
because in history when the german shit themselves they drag the whole world down the toilet with them.

>> No.15269736

>>15269656
mind if i save this?

>> No.15269841

>>15268819
As an American how do I profit from this? Can I just short them or should I go long USD against the Euro?

>> No.15269858

>>15269656
lmao

>> No.15269908

>>15269602
I fucking hope you aren't, that'd be a shame for your poor mother. Having to raise a clinically retarded kid like that :'(.

>> No.15269944

>>15269841
You could long the USD and be profitable as money tries to escape the EU. But eventually the USD will crash too.
Long gold, silver, and BTC.

>> No.15269984

>>15269656
based

>> No.15269990

>>15268932
>trigger a Lehman scenario
Lehman was a surprise, Deutsche isn't.

>> No.15270012

>>15269230
>>15269408
Trillions in derivatives exposure doesn't mean what you think it means, retards. Refrain from posting on /biz/ until you read a goddamn book.

>> No.15270016

>>15269990
The Lehman scenario is the fact that they could not secure financing for a restructure which led to their inevitable collapse. The same would happen here.

>> No.15270043

>>15270016
And the collapse mattered because everyone thought the Fed would backstop Lehman. So their investments went from 100 to 0 over a weekend.

Nobody has expected Deutsche to pay anything back in full for the past year.

>> No.15270054

>>15270043
And nobody is going to loan them any more money for a debt restructure, so they are fucked, and will likely also go to 0 over a weekend.

>> No.15270123

whatever happen it will be next week

>> No.15270127

>>15270054
Yes, but the point is they're going from like 3 to 0. Dumbshit companies go bankrupt all the time, just because this is a bank doesn't mean it's a financial crisis.

>> No.15270260

>>15268819
...nice knowing you German bros... Your invited to come to your sister country, the Motherland aka USA. You have to bring 3 cute blond girls though of breading age, though. That's the deal, hans.

>> No.15270362

>>15269736
I'm sorry boomers aren't allowed on this board

>> No.15270742

>>15268819
what will really bake your noodle is that the same shit is happening to HSBC, they are about to go under as well. and when that happens, the pain really goes into full swing.

>> No.15270746

>>15268932
Germans are so obedient that if Merkel went on TV and told them not to sell, they wouldn't. The market would be fucking them in the ass and they'd just sit and take it to please their owners

>> No.15270940
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>>15268819
Joke's on you, Deutsche is backed by the german taxpayers.

>> No.15270951

>>15270940
What's the joke?

>> No.15270962

>>15270260
You want to breed some lighter skinned mutts, fatass?

>> No.15270973

They will be bailed out, they are classified as being too big to fail by central banks.

>> No.15271037

>>15270260
>You have to bring 3 cute blond girls though of breading age,

>Euros
>Breeding

They don't do that

>> No.15271278

>>15270127
How do you recommend profiting from their going to 0? What will be affected most?

>> No.15271395

>>15270940
>german taxpayers
Let's say all the Euro zone taxpayers

>> No.15271403

>>15271278

short everything dependent on credit.