/smg/ - Stock Market General

[Anonymous No.15261829]

Sunset edition

Popular brokers:
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https://pastebin.com/VtnpN5iJ

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Real-time market news:
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ThinkorSwim

(n-word)

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https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

Stock screener
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener

Premarket Data:
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Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

Suggested books:
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List of hedge fund holdings:
https://fintel.io/

old: >>15256788

[Anonymous No.15261848]

Fuck Drumpf

[Anonymous No.15261851]

premptive AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA post

[Anonymous No.15261853]

this is feeling like a dead cat bounce. anyone else get the vibe too?

[Anonymous No.15261855]

>>15261848
Fuck summer fags, fuck niggers and fuck leddit.

[Anonymous No.15261860]

>>15261829
China BTFO!!

[Anonymous No.15261864]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAH EHAT IS HAPPENING?!?!!?

Seriously though how long is this going to be propped up for? 9 months before the big one hits? I have no idea

[Anonymous No.15261866]

>>15261853
>bounce
Sub-percent isn’t really a bounce

[Anonymous No.15261873]

>>15261864
Give it a few hours

[Standstill No.15261872]

>>15261853
If it's a dead cat bounce it's the shittest bounce in history. So no.

[Anonymous No.15261875]

>If President Xi would meet directly and personally with the protesters, there would be a happy and enlightened ending to the Hong Kong problem. I have no doubt!

China is going to do something about this blowhard faggot.

[Anonymous No.15261883]

>>15261853
It's too volatile right now. Look at sectors, some will get crushed today.

[Anonymous No.15261896]

>>15261864
Nah, more like 8 months 24 days and 3 hours. To be exact.
I know this because stuff

[Anonymous No.15261913]

>mfw they inverted the yield curve to trigger the algos so they could buy cheapies for the ETERNAL GOLDEN BULL RUN

[Anonymous No.15261914]

>>15261829
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[Anonymous No.15261922]

alright, this is other red day guys.

[Standstill No.15261930]

>>15261922
A good sailor sails even in the red sea

[Anonymous No.15261941]

>>15261922
hmmm

[Anonymous No.15261951]

>>15261922
Looks pretty decent for now though

[Anonymous No.15261952]

>>15261941
bull market: buy the red
bear market: sell the green

[Anonymous No.15261968]

false alarm recession... just a prank check out the camera

[Anonymous No.15261975]

>>15261930
d-doesnt that mean masterbate while on period O_O

[Anonymous No.15261987]

>>15261968
>Stop freaking out about "the recession"

https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/cqjo30/stop_freaking_out_about_the_recession/

[Anonymous No.15261992]

that's what your mom told me

[Standstill No.15262003]

>>15261975
go home RKG you're drunk

[Anonymous No.15262009]

>>15261992
-> >>15261922
Also ACB looks like a bottom reversal wick so far

[Anonymous No.15262013]

What are som stocks/currencies worth shorting now?

[Anonymous No.15262029]

>>15261987
>I was working my first "real" job in 2008, but the pay was so bad that I was not investing much. Then over the next nine year, I didn't invest one single cent out of fear of another big market drop (just left it in savings). I ran the numbers, and if I had been investing in the S&P 500 at my original rate that whole time, I'd stand to be up about $200,000 at retirement.
>I potentially lost $200k by not investing out of fear of a market turn

This nigger bought the top and is about to get mouthfucked by boomers again LMAO

[Anonymous No.15262037]

>>15262013
>He doesn't know about Argentina

[Yesterday's OP Anon No.15262049]

>>15261857
お前はもう死んでる。

[Yesterday's OP Anon No.15262070]

Getting a bit nervous about this desu

[Anonymous No.15262082]

hoping for a -10% day. let's just meme this recession asap.

[God of Calls !!oZXahFyAqDi No.15262085]

Reminder that LCI will dump next week

[Anonymous No.15262105]

Reminder about the current situation

[Anonymous No.15262113]

>>15262105
at this point, QE wouldn't save the economy lol

[Anonymous No.15262121]

>>15262070
Nvidia will pump 5% guaranteed

[SNSS Anon No.15262135]

Some shit is brewing with CVS right now

[Anonymous No.15262137]

just killed a huge fucking roach in my apartment

goddamn I hate renting

[Anonymous No.15262151]

>>15262137
Renting? That's a bad investment, in fact.. not even an investment at all

[Anonymous No.15262155]

>>15261848
Fuck China

[Yesterday's OP Anon No.15262193]

>>15262121
Screencapped and if it doesn't then I will be sad.

>>15262137
I get em in my house on occasion - my deck is pretty old and apparently they like to congregate around old wood. Just get pest control to come spray baseboards once every 6 months and you'll be fine. You might still find some but they'll at least be dead.

[Anonymous No.15262197]

Speaking of which, the government of Hong Kong just lowered local economic growth forecast to 0-1%

[Anonymous No.15262220]

>>15262151
Neither is property tax for that matter

[Anonymous No.15262240]

spy fucking rallying

[Anonymous No.15262251]

>>15262137
I had a problem as well. Buy Roach Combat Gel on eBay or Amazon, and regular boric acid powder in Walmart.

Put the Gel in crevices like under the sink, or near their nest if you can. It worked for me beautifully.

[Anonymous No.15262275]

>>15262251
So long eBay, Amazon and Walmart?

[Anonymous No.15262278]

>>15262151
House returns over the last 100 years is 1%/year on average.

US stock market return over the last 100 years is 7%/year on average.

7% > 1%.

Buying a house is for morons who failed basic math. Rent and invest the down payment. You will retire 20 years earlier than the home owner with capital locked. Picking out home owners is the easiest way to identify people that have 0 financial sense.

[Anonymous No.15262283]

Fuck you dick sucker vegans

[Anonymous No.15262296]

>>15262283

>getting angry over burgers

[Anonymous No.15262300]

>>15262251
yeah I've been googling around and I'm gonna do that

it's just so fucking annoying to see movement in a studio apartment and realize it's a fucking bug

board related: long $DIS

[Anonymous No.15262326]

>>15262296
Oh no don't get me wrong,I love them bc their retardationg is making me money,now the question is,is it them or the meat??

[Anonymous No.15262337]

>>15262278
Yeah because I can leave that apartment to my kids and they'll be rent free.

[Anonymous No.15262345]

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

>>15261941
damn im going to need to up my CSCO position yee yee

[Anonymous No.15262357]

>>15262337
The user above is also not mentioning the saved costs from you also not renting. What a cunt.

[Anonymous No.15262358]

>>15262345
fug

[Anonymous No.15262365]

Just tell me when to buy JPM, /smg/.

[Anonymous No.15262368]

>>15262337
Yeah, because homes have no maintenance fees, insurance, or taxes.

This is a typical response from low IQ home owners when faced with the reality that they made a poor financial decision. They'll ignore any home related expanse and lost opportunity cost. Cognitive dissonance is extremely powerful.

[Anonymous No.15262384]

>>15262283
Now show us your BYND order history lmao

[Anonymous No.15262389]

>>15262358
what's the most well known company that you think pays a dividend but doesn't?

hard mode: can't include a firm with buybacks

[Anonymous No.15262394]

>>15262357
Another slow home owner who can't even do basic modelling to figure out that renting still always comes out. Would you like me to show you how to use excel to model this or would you prefer to live in ignorance forever?

[Anonymous No.15262413]

>>15262394
Post your models or whatever, I'm interested.

[Anonymous No.15262414]

Daily reminder that index funds are unamerican

[Anonymous No.15262417]

>>15262278
>>15262368
>>15262394
Do you know why so many people buy real estate to begin with? Just asking

[Anonymous No.15262470]

>>15262414
I don’t get it. How is an index fund unamerican

[Yesterday's OP Anon No.15262473]

>>15262394
Ok but if you build your own house on your own land you don't have to worry about hearing the neighbors next to you fucking or the neighbors downstairs fighting or the kids above you stomping around when you're trying to just get some fucking sleep before you have to go wage early the next day checkmate atheists

[Anonymous No.15262481]

>>15262417
Do you know why so many people attempt to day trade when statistically they will under perform indexes? Most people are morons and have no understanding of basic mathematical principles. Everyone thinks they will win even when it's proven that the majority will lose. If your argument is HUR DUR BUT PEOPLE DO IT SO IT GOOD RITE then you're hopeless. I'm sure next you'll be quoting me some random anecdote where 1 person got rich of real estate. Good luck reproducing that. People do stupid shit all the time. Learn to think for yourself and model it yourself you fool.

[Anonymous No.15262491]

renting and buying are personal decisions. there are a lot of benefits, tangible and intangible, that go along with both. it really varies and is subjective to your circumstances and preferences okay guys?

[Anonymous No.15262492]

Who else shorting GE atm? Free money

[Anonymous No.15262525]

>>15262384
First time I've ever put an option on bynd,just got unjusted from my amd call.

[Anonymous No.15262531]

im curious what amount of $ you anons could lose withour giving a fuck. I lost 1500$ because some nigger at nyse delisted PES yesterday, 2 months into the 6 month warning, doesnt feel too awful.

[Anonymous No.15262546]

>>15262389
BRK-A?

[Anonymous No.15262574]

>>15262470

They're designed to just be average.

[Anonymous No.15262602]

>>15262492
how credible is that news about the accounts?

[Anonymous No.15262625]

>>15262525
damn nice you won the lottery

[SNSS Anon No.15262628]

Dat SNSS

[Anonymous No.15262632]

HERE WE GO AGAIN

[Anonymous No.15262645]

>>15262632
Boogie oogie boogie oogie

[Anonymous No.15262647]

>>15262628
Not happening much

[Anonymous No.15262650]

>>15262121
Based on what?

[Anonymous No.15262653]

GE NOW DOWN 15%

[Anonymous No.15262659]

>>15262602
Who cares? Just ride the momentum and be ready to close your position. I’m out before the end of today.

The guy seems credible tho, but he is cooperating with a hedge fund with a short position, why I wouldn’t bet on the final outcome of this spectacle.

[Anonymous No.15262669]

>>15262283
hot
good work

[Anonymous No.15262676]

>>15262481
Jesus fuck you're so stupid. I asked you a simple question and you went on rambling about garbage again.
investopedia.com/articles/mortgages-real-estate/11/key-reasons-invest-real-estate.asp

It's not only about making the most amount of money annually you stupid fucking ape

[Anonymous No.15262701]

>>15262632
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

[Anonymous No.15262713]

>>15262659
i don't have a position yet, as waiting for a time to scoop cheapies and start writing calls, but don't know about long term.

[Anonymous No.15262727]

>>15262650
I’m an accountant at nvidia. They beat by about 8% revenue from pc gaming sales and meet expectations for data center sales.

[Anonymous No.15262749]

PHUN was a mistake.

[Anonymous No.15262774]

buy LOW, CSCO, MSFT, BLK, JNJ, PH and thank me in 2 years

[Anonymous No.15262785]

What the fuck is GE's problem

[Anonymous No.15262803]

I wish I bought more GE shorts this morning, I was scared of a dead cat bounce.

>>15262602
It's the guy who whistleblew on Bernie Madoff, delivered the case to the SEC on a silver platter and still got ignored. He hates both political parties and is paranoid as fuck.

[SNSS Anon No.15262808]

Trump tweeting about how dank the economy is today. Clearly doing his cheerleader routine

[Anonymous No.15262810]

>>15262785
Some whistleblower compared it to Enron.

[Anonymous No.15262813]

>>15262785
It's the whole stock market

[Anonymous No.15262824]

whos ready for the ol /trumpypumpy/ tomorrow?

[Anonymous No.15262827]

>>15262727
You sure you're not a bagholder at nvidia?

I threw some money in out of morbid curiosity.

[Anonymous No.15262838]

>>15262808
I hope it works

[Anonymous No.15262870]

>>15262824
THIS MARKET WANTS HIGHER

[Anonymous No.15262877]

Full GE Whistleblow Report found here:
https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/editorialfiles/2019/8/15/2019_08_15_GE_Whistleblower_Report.pdf

[Anonymous No.15262884]

making a huge buy of CGC, about 8k worth.

also gonna buy a few thousand worth of AMRS.

[Anonymous No.15262893]

this is the most limpdicked and pathetic rally ive ever seen.

[Anonymous No.15262902]

Trust that GE will go down further. No one wants a long position at the end of the day, this dead cat bounce is only someone trying to make a quick buck.

[Anonymous No.15262936]

>>15262877
Time to buy then, eh?

[Anonymous No.15262944]

>>15262838
Why?

[Anonymous No.15262959]

>>15262893
why?

[Anonymous No.15262965]

>>15261829
just gonna sit on my money for a week or two

[Anonymous No.15262978]

>>15262936
You don't buy fraud, especially not when the cat leaves the bag at escape velocity.

[Yesterday's OP Anon No.15262981]

Trust GE can definitely hit sub-7s - it's traded in the 6s before. Pretty bleak outlook and the slow death of a giant. Think it'll go the way of Sears?

[SNSS Anon No.15263001]

Sorry guys I just joined the Yang Gang

[Anonymous No.15263042]

>>15262470
They're designed to be a scam.

[Anonymous No.15263057]

>>15262827
Good I think I saw you pump the graph. Do not underestimate the power of positive thought. We’re all in this together.

[Anonymous No.15263064]

>>15263001
What took you so long?

[Anonymous No.15263082]

>>15263001
He can learn from China, they have already deployed artificial intelligence to identify characteristic of scam call using metadata and features in the voice call, and will intercept the call and notify the user when they discover likely scams.

[Anonymous No.15263095]

>>15262981
Geez, is that report that bad? Id buy in the 7s, they have the assets to bounce back for sure but I'm just surprised to see.

[Anonymous No.15263106]

Going in on Green Thumb Industries...

[Anonymous No.15263111]

*ring ring*
cnbc fast money - hello?
hedge funds - hello, we want to unload our GE position at 10, shill it hard to suckers, take 5% of profits as usual
cnbc - say no more: https://twitter.com/CNBCFastMoney/status/1155953560548343810

[Anonymous No.15263115]

>>15262414
>>15263042
Huh? Why? Index funds seem to do really well

[Anonymous No.15263142]

>>15263057
You've already cost me a lunch.

[Anonymous No.15263150]

>>15262625
3BARPLAY NIGGA
>IT HAS MORE TO GO

[Anonymous No.15263158]

>>15263095
The report says that they literally don't have the assets

[Anonymous No.15263166]

>>15263150
It'll be back

300 eoy

[Anonymous No.15263175]

>>15263158
Fug. Rip if it is all true, damn I thought they were getting back on track

[Anonymous No.15263194]

do people in here really have GALT positions. who would actually invest in this trash?

[Anonymous No.15263226]

$UUU

[Anonymous No.15263233]

>>15263158
Uh, bold red scary text AND spooky skulls? That's a short attack. I have no idea if the allegations are true but whoever made that chart absolutely has an interest in seeing GE drop.

[Anonymous No.15263243]

>>15262870
Looks like the bulls are back in town. Recession is over. Dow 40k around the corner.

[Yesterday's OP Anon No.15263260]

>>15263158
Holy shit, almost NO BALANCE SHEET? That's definitely not GAAP.

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.15263265]

>>15263158
just fucking sell the debt off and use the proceeds to raise the dividend.

[Anonymous No.15263271]

>>15263158
>>15263233
>>15263175
GE is a pretty big company that is basically ingrained into the American conciousness. Won't they just be bailed out like the automotive industry?
That aside doesn't this mean they lied to investors? So someone's going to jail atleast right?

[Anonymous No.15263291]

COME ON NOG DONT LET ME DOWN TO THE MOON WE GO

[Anonymous No.15263295]

WHAT HAPPENED TO MY WEED??? AAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.15263297]

HONK HONK

[Anonymous No.15263331]

>>15263271
>That aside doesn't this mean they lied to investors? So someone's going to jail atleast right?

You will have to independently verify whether the allegations are true as far as that is possibke without insider info. I'm just saying you should take articles written like that with substantial grains of salt.

[Anonymous No.15263348]

>>15263295
Fucking Canopy happened.

[Anonymous No.15263365]

>>15263295
the crashing after the high

[Anonymous No.15263380]

>>15263331
But sadly something like this will scare the living hell out of investors and will actually cause the stock to plummet and will damage the company regardless. It's shit either way

[Anonymous No.15263389]

>>15263271
> Won't they just be bailed out
The company wouldn't be raided unless it was a crime scene. There are worthwhile parts (even if they're mundane, like units with lucrative government contracts). If they can get a decent grasp of the real financials, someone would buy it for that reason alone. If it's ONLY for that reason alone, though, it would be steeply discounted.
But I have to believe some units are profitable. It just doesn't make sense to hire outside C-suite executives and they all continue the fraud. Bernie and Enron were able to do what they did because they kept information locked down among a small and consistent group of conspirators.

[Anonymous No.15263406]

>>15262365
>buying banks late cycle
yikes
it could be based (unironically) if you did it right before the petrodollar ends and the federal reserve by chance decides to increase interest rates

[SNSS Anon No.15263439]

>>15263158
I'm sorry, does that say negative 20 BILLION DOLLARS?

[Anonymous No.15263451]

GE already +7% since bottom.. I dont understand who is buying those bear market rallies after reports like that came out.

[SNSS Anon No.15263462]

>>15263291
Not to worry sir, I won't let you down, and may I say what an honor it is to be serving with you sir.

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.15263495]

tfw RKG won't fuck me for 50% of my shit and destroy my credit score

[Anonymous No.15263555]

>>15263158
I like GE, whenever I am having a very bad or red day, GE always reminds me that I could be doing worse

It was one of my first stocks ever, and I was so worried about selling a high dividend stock at a loss (-$0.50 a share, lol)

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.15263562]

ctrl+f (twmc) 0/0, you faggots make me sick

[Anonymous No.15263574]

>>15262481
Averaging home prices is a terrible metric since there is a huge dichotomy of dying cities and cities that are booming. Of course you are fucked if you bought real estate in Detroit but imagine telling someone they are stupid for buying property in Seattle, NYC, or San Francisco 20 years ago

[Anonymous No.15263579]

>>15262803
Lmao its going to 0 aint it

[Anonymous No.15263580]

>>15263495
If you want to get justed I'm willing to take half your money. Just send me, what, 100 dollars, and I'll say it's alimony

[Anonymous No.15263591]

I can't wait for this piece of shit to drop.

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.15263603]

>>15263580
you wanna skip the bullshit, no dinner, no kiss, no sex, and just take half my shit? fuck you.

[Anonymous No.15263624]

>not into this shit at all
>decide to invest $1000 I have laying around last night
>buy 3 shares of SPY and put the rest of it into GM because “they should be a safe company”

Clearly I have great instincts and should quit my job to day trade

[LCIguy !7SgaW5KMQI No.15263639]

>>15263603
>you wanna skip the bullshit, no dinner, no kiss, no sex, and just take half my shit?
sure

[Anonymous No.15263666]

>>15263624
I mean, this could be a bottom for SPY for the next few months, or we could be drifting towards a waterfall. Either way your instinct to buy now is correct, but I would wait until there isn't so much uncertainty that people are literally trading the future of the market on fucking tweets.

[Anonymous No.15263696]

https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/what-do-you-think-of-the-upro-tmf-strategy-that-beats-the-s-p-500.333151/
>I'm sure you guys have stumbled across this strategy before, the basic idea is holding a portfolio of: 40% UPRO (3X S&P500) and 60% TMF (3X LTT) rebalancing quarterly. This portfolio has held up extremely well (including the backtests). This portfolio has an annual return of 18% (backtested to 1987) compared to the S&P 500'S 9% return.
So what do you guys think about this?
Anyone tried it before? Any pointers as to why it's a bad idea and why no one ever recommends it? I'm guessing it's to do with being leveraged right?
Leverage means you got alot more to lose if things go south right? But that's also why it's returns are so high.

[Anonymous No.15263710]

>>15263666
It’s going to waterfall, some slight recovery ahead. The rest of the month is going to be wild.

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.15263721]

30 year t-notes don't beat long term inflation targets, safe havens are officially fucking crowded beyond belief... where can i find cheapies and some alpha in this fucking mess... and i guess alpha is basically fucking nothing at this point fucking -2% is fucking alpha as fuck the rate this is going.

[Anonymous No.15263722]

>>15263271
Remember what happened tp GM?

[Anonymous No.15263723]

>>15263451
>GE already +7% since bottom.. I dont understand who is buying those bear market rallies after reports like that came out.
Buy low sell high!!! What do you expect? All they see is yummy cheap stocks

[Anonymous No.15263725]

Guys its still going up, why????

[Anonymous No.15263743]

>>15263591
>I can't wait for this piece of shit to drop.
Jesus such grow in such a short time. Can we say it's a tad overbought?

[Anonymous No.15263754]

so buy when shit hits the fan in the comming months?

[Anonymous No.15263765]

>>15263624
Dude GWlE has been having little Tiff's of trouble for a few years now. You should have atleast done a modicum of research into its history.

[Anonymous No.15263769]

>>15263721
cryptocurrency

[Anonymous No.15263828]

>>15263725
They had great earnings

[Anonymous No.15263833]

>>15263722
>Remember what happened tp GM?
Not really. And the stock charts don't go back to 2008 but GM is now doing better than ever

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.15263854]

>>15263769
shit.... so 40% of the shekels into bitcoin, and with the remaining 60% which fucking nano-cap shitcoins do I purchase?

[Anonymous No.15263864]

>>15263754
yeah. markets going down is a buy opportunity. Of course, reality sucks and you'll often feel like you're buying into a dying stock that's only going to go lower forever when you actually do it, but historically things always go back up. And chances are good if it doesn't, you'll have bigger problems anyways

[Dobber !!qEeBALi+hGB No.15263873]

Ok y‘all nonhypothetical situation here: On monday, if I write 2 weeks out instead of my usual 1 week, the credit is big enough that I can get my 700th share of AMD (and then i can write a weekly on the 7th 100-lot or whatever), or I can just write my weekly like normal but only with 600 shares, however when i write the next week after the total premium i get is obviously more (and ill get the 700 shares then too).

So should I get the 700 now or go for the slightly higher premium?

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.15263908]

>>15263873
just fucking sodomcumstickem this shit and grab 50% 3 times tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.15263941]

>>15263725

kys

[Anonymous No.15263944]

Since PES died I'm holding a small sum of "memorabilia" stock. Is it going to be retarded and act like Sears, where the stock went 200% after becoming unbuyable, or should I just free that money up now.

[Anonymous No.15263961]

>>15262105
Why post fake shit?

[Anonymous No.15263966]

>>15263873
Why are you still going hard at AMD when it's obvious it's going to collapse into the center of the Earth

[Anonymous No.15263974]

damn
down on an up day
hurts me
hurts myself again

[Dobber !!qEeBALi+hGB No.15264008]

>>15263966
Because I realized if I hadn‘t been dicking around all june and july and just stuck to my original plan of getting 1000 AMD asap to buywrite with, I‘d already be there and making progress towards my first bluechip diversification.

[Anonymous No.15264031]

>>15263833
They bankrupted. All their assets have been moved to a new company. Stock for the old company are still being traded but with nothing of worth and no business activity under them. Stockholders of the old company are not entitled to anything in the new company

[Anonymous No.15264044]

>>15263696
Please halp

[Anonymous No.15264045]

>>15263966
Sold that shit once it got back to $30. There's no way it's going any higher. It'd be a miracle if it reached it's 52 wk high again, but that's as far as it's going. Which now means I have $60 to spend.

Any suggestions?

[Anonymous No.15264059]

>>15264031
Wait what? How the fuck does that work? People are basically trading stock for a practically no existent company? Won't the new company be liable to the stock holders?

[Anonymous No.15264083]

>>15264045
AMD is hitting 40 next year m8

[Anonymous No.15264104]

>>15264059
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/traders-buying-gm-stock-warnings/story?id=8387008
>GM and federal regulators say they have done all they can to warn investors, giving old GM the appropriate moniker of Motors Liquidation Co., issuing multiple public warnings and changing the stock symbol from GMGMQ to MTLQQ.PK.
>"There are people who think they are buying the new General Motors. Stop. You're not. You're buying the detritus," said Harlan Platt, a finance professor at Northeastern University who follows corporate bankruptcies.

[Anonymous No.15264114]

GPRO.... green beans..... oil..... ;_;

[Anonymous No.15264125]

The absolute state of DF investors.

[Dobber !!qEeBALi+hGB No.15264126]

>>15264083
damn right it is.

[Anonymous No.15264132]

>$50k in bond etfs
I'm so out of the game . Made 50% in MSFT over a half a year and 20% in gold ETFs, non leveraged, but just have no idea of any quality stocks.

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.15264152]

>>15264114
i carry a military grade tourniquet with me everywhere i go, make my face bleed like that and wrap it around my neck darling...

[Anonymous No.15264154]

>>15264104
>>15264059
* Ah nevermind, the old company ceased trading in 2011, three years after the bankrupt.

[Anonymous No.15264168]

>>15264045
I remember feeling this way when AMD reached 12$ and I sold. I felt like I sold the top because it dropped to 9$ but then went straight to 30$. AMD will hit 60$ before the year is up. Its literally a money printer.

[Anonymous No.15264183]

>>15264154
>* Ah nevermind, the old company ceased trading in 2011, three years after the bankrupt.
Thanks for cooling me

[Anonymous No.15264194]

Who here buying ge cheapies

[Anonymous No.15264201]

>>15264183
They are still being traded around in OTC circles.
Once in a while, you will see them circulating around NASDAQ

[Anonymous No.15264230]

Who here got them fake meat puts?
Bought it this morn for expiry tomorrow

[Anonymous No.15264239]

>>15263966
>amd going to collapse
That’s funny

[Yesterday's OP Anon No.15264268]

This market wants crabbier

[Anonymous No.15264275]

>>15264194
I thought $13 was cheap. I was wrong.

[Yesterday's OP Anon No.15264274]

>>15264194
I bought a put spread.

[Anonymous No.15264300]

>>15264201
>They are still being traded around in OTC circles.
>Once in a while, you will see them circulating around NASDAQ
How come? People trying to trick people into buying their bags?

[Anonymous No.15264303]

>>15264230
All that in one day? I'd've gotten greedy long before reaching that point. Congrats

[Anonymous No.15264304]

>>15263194
All of my money is in chwy and galt. The funny thing is that I keep doubling down on payday. Lmfao its just money right haha

[Anonymous No.15264321]

>>15264230
I’d sell that if I were you theres not too much more money to be made if it goes down vs the risk theres good news on the china trade situation. I’ve made money trading options but all of them have expired worthless. I’ve never once owned an option that expired ITM

[Yesterday's OP Anon No.15264333]

>>15264304
Why CHWY? What about them makes you think they're a good investment?

[Anonymous No.15264345]

>>15262470
Some wall street big dick went on a CNN rant about how index fund investors are free loaders who live off of the work of traders and wall streeters.

[Dobber !!qEeBALi+hGB No.15264346]

>>15264304
damn chewy is actually kinda stable around that early 30s since IPO lmao. Maybe i should be buywriting that.

[Anonymous No.15264358]

>>15262300
Yeah, I used to get a shudder feeling everytime I would see a black dot moving out of the corner of my eye - after turning on the lights.

[Anonymous No.15264383]

>>15264333
>>15264346
Missed out on all the other IPOs and that one boomer on tv is always talking about petsmart

[Anonymous No.15264401]

>>15262884
You're a beautiful human being and we're going to make it together.

[Anonymous No.15264436]

buyin CAKE for oversold bounce
batter up

[Anonymous No.15264439]

>>15264304
More like JUST money

[Anonymous No.15264450]

>Worse than Enron and WorldCom combined
GE is FUCKED

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.15264456]

>>15264346
chewy is probably a cheapie... they seem sustainable as long as people keep feeding their fucking pets. I kinda want people to have to eat their pets' food, then their pets, then throw themselves off a cliff like a true blue republican.

[Anonymous No.15264516]

>>15264152
>i carry a military grade tourniquet with me everywhere i go, make my face bleed like that and wrap it around my neck darling...
I once knew an EMT who swears that one time he arrived at a scene of an officer involved shooting to see a cop attempting to tourniquet the neck of the guy he'd shot because he was bleeding profusely from his face. Said it might have actually been a mercy thing....or murder, whatever.

[Pendulum !!97YdFhwozvv No.15264519]

>>15263194
Your opinion is worthless

[Anonymous No.15264522]

>>15264450
Lets test som new lows soon. My leveraged short is ready

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.15264552]

>>15264516
i dunno since they banned plastic straws how are we supposed to do emergency tracheotomies so the lungs can get oxygen after applying the tourniquet to the neck? the oxygen not getting enough head isn't the problem sometimes.

[Anonymous No.15264560]

>>15264552
uh do you not carry a metal straw? the fuck is wrong with you

[Anonymous No.15264564]

Going back down lads

[Dobber !!qEeBALi+hGB No.15264576]

>>15264456
I‘m pretty sure the pet food is a proof of concept, like amazon with books and shit. They‘re basically a top tier delivery service in the long run I think.

[Yesterday's OP Anon No.15264625]

Bounce or through the floor?

[Anonymous No.15264630]

>They expect one of us at the wreckage brother

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.15264645]

>>15264560
I mean i guess if push came to shove we could use a pen... i dunno though I just carry a smart phone and can make notes with that if needed and don't carry a pen everywhere anymore.... I mean there's probably one in my car with the tourniquet.. you never know when you might have to save a fucking life these days.

>>15264564
kys

[Anonymous No.15264651]

ABSOLUTE F R E E F A L L

[Anonymous No.15264666]

DOOM DOOM DOOM IT'S ALL OVER DOOM DOOM DOOM IT'S ALL OVER DOOM DOOM THE END IS NEAR DOOM DOOM DOOM

[Anonymous No.15264673]

Uh oh

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/madoff-whistleblower-claims-ge-committing-accounting-fraud-131211577.html

[Anonymous No.15264678]

>https://www.barchart.com/options/volume-leaders/stocks?page=1&orderBy=volume&orderDir=desc
So do you guys look at this and read much into it? If big money poors into stuff is it kinda guaranteed? Why is so much money pooring into options for 2 years from now? Never even heard of MNK but volume is crazy for jan 2021 calls

[Anonymous No.15264681]

>>15264651
Out into nothing
Gonna leave this world for a while

[Anonymous No.15264690]

3 BAR PLAY NIGGA!!

[Anonymous No.15264693]

What did the idot tweet this time?

[Anonymous No.15264695]

FUCKKKKKKK

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.15264712]

>>15264693
muh fake news, muh jews, muh booming economy

[Anonymous No.15264721]

>Our plan is proceeding as expected

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.15264730]

>>15264693
>>15264712
oh and muh farmers #winning

[Anonymous No.15264746]

>>15264721
Speak of the devil and he shall appear

[Anonymous No.15264749]

Someone told me yesterday that if we don't bounce today we go back to 2500

[Anonymous No.15264769]

>>15264345
It make no sense though. So traders should only trade for their self? You can’t be paid to trade? Companies that create retirenment portfolios for people that work and have families and dont have time(or luck) to become succesful traders? It would be cool but it would be crazy if you got rid of etfs and middlemen traders. Shit would be wild

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.15264777]

>>15264749
this is just some chop, all time highs are close

[Anonymous No.15264795]

>>15264749
hes just trying to steal your cheap shares

[Anonymous No.15264802]

>>15264777
Oh shit.

[Anonymous No.15264804]

>>15264749
Wow, and what about the s&p?

[Anonymous No.15264809]

PPT activate for fuck's sake

[Yesterday's OP Anon No.15264810]

[Anonymous No.15264820]

>>15264810

[Anonymous No.15264823]

>>15264810
Is he wrong though?

[Anonymous No.15264848]

>>15264823
Nope.

[Anonymous No.15264853]

>>15264769
>>15264345
What's silly about it all is that investment is necessary for business growth. Basically no economy would be doing aswell as it did without investment. Opening on the stock market aids this greatly and greats companies that generate vast wealth for their host country. America wouldn't be the way they were without investment.
And I know he said index funds but wtf it's fundamentally the same thing. Your investing in the market just letting someone smarter than you do it.
If anything it better than having a bunch of retards overbuying stocks or panicking and then crash.

[Anonymous No.15264863]

>>15264008
AMD and all chip stocks are going to crash into the center of the earth
good luck will your fools errand

[Anonymous No.15264871]

>>15264749
yeah X_X
it bad

2700 deff in play ATM
we could have been back at 2900 today

but someone was really really determined for sell ;_;
like 7 pumps were super dumped on today

[Anonymous No.15264876]

>>15264823
I mean, CNN really did have an article claiming that the report that showing 1.3% inflation actually showed 2.9% for no apparent reason. That's the most glaring lie I've seen, but not the only one.

[Anonymous No.15264881]

>>15264810
>Democratic party hates Israel
Wtf I love Israel now.

[Anonymous No.15264882]

>>15264823

The problem with Trump is that he doesn't know there is time for silence.

He has done irreparable damage to himself with these economic tweets in the last 48 hours. The tail is wagging the dog.

[Anonymous No.15264891]

First for clown market
>...and here we...go!

[Anonymous No.15264916]

I bleed it out
Digging deeper just to throw it away
I bleed it out
Digging deeper just to throw it away
I bleed it out
Digging deeper just to throw it away
Just to throw it away
Just to throw it away

[Anonymous No.15264919]

>>15264891
If dubs we close up 2%

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.15264923]

>>15264882
he makes an excellent point though

[Anonymous No.15264933]

Crawling in my skin
These wounds, they will not heal
Fear is how I fall
Confusing what is real
There's something inside me that pulls beneath the surface
Consuming, confusing
This lack of self control I fear is never ending
Controlling
I can't seem
To find myself again
My walls are closing in
(Without a sense of confidence I'm convinced
That there's just too much pressure to take)
I've felt this way before
So insecure
Crawling in my skin
These wounds, they will not heal
Fear is how I fall
Confusing what is real

[Anonymous No.15264938]

>>15264923

[Anonymous No.15264940]

>>15264882
Wtf Im a warrendog now

[Anonymous No.15264950]

Is it any wonder why I'm scared,
If I was a little younger would I
care,
feeling like the walls are growing stronger,
I don't know if this cage can hold me any longer

you never dreamed you'd have to live your life so guarded,
cause they'll find a way to make you feel discarded

I'm not afraid of tomorrow,
I'm only scared of myself,
feels like my insides are on fire, and I'm looking through the eyes of someone else

[Anonymous No.15264957]

>>15264809
Thank you based PPT

[Anonymous No.15264967]

Sometimes, I hate, the life, I made
Everything's wrong every time
Pushing on I can't escape
Everything that comes my way
Is haunting me taking its sweet time
Holding on I'm lost in a haze
Fighting life to the end of my days
Don't wanna be rude but I have to
Nothing's good about the hell you put me through
I just need to look around
See that life that has come unbound
And you're so cynical, Narcissistic Cannibal
Got to bring myself back from the dead

[Anonymous No.15264978]

>>15264967
We going up now. Big Banks were just shaking out the losers with the stop losses and knock outs.

[Anonymous No.15264990]

*breathes in*

[Yesterday's OP Anon No.15265001]

>>15264990

[Yesterday's OP Anon No.15265005]

Zoomer stocks and how far they off their all-time highs (h/t OddStats)

[Anonymous No.15265007]

>>15264990
Just buy the dip

[Anonymous No.15265017]

Interesting, this Chop

[Anonymous No.15265027]

>>15265005
>buying any of these overhyped shit companies
you deserve to lose

[Yesterday's OP Anon No.15265047]

It's basically a fucking coin flip at this point. How much do you trust European leaders to turn things around? How much to you trust Trump go get a trade deal worked out?

>>15265027
On that list the only one that isn't shit is NVDA.

[Anonymous No.15265053]

>>15265005
I wish someone would put all those in an ETF so I can save some time and buy them all
I bought a juul yesterday, I'm infiltrating zoomer society to see how they live
I will become the king of the zoomers and ruul over them with an iron (but fair) fist

[Dobber !!qEeBALi+hGB No.15265058]

I

HURT MYSELF TODAY

TO SEE IF I STILL FEEL

[Anonymous No.15265080]

>>15264882
I agree with this sentiment. I just disregard it now. I have rationalized it like gorilla warfare. Sure you can line up and fight your opponent by the set of figting rules(like british troops in bright red coats lining up like retards and standing and shooting) but “uncivilized” strategy fuckinf wrecks you.
We have become accustomed to the set of stupid rules we follow and through them we have made ourselves week. If no one in the country will tell the truth well then fuck the president is the one that has to. I only truly hate his pro jew shit and even that actually works at exposing them more. He must know what he is doing. Worst case scenario trump is our Mr. Magoo to a better world.

[Anonymous No.15265087]

>JUST Energy

[Anonymous No.15265093]

Bought SPY calls right as we went red. Feels like a miracle they are almost back at breakeven.

[Dobber !!qEeBALi+hGB No.15265095]

>>15265080
>gorilla warfare

[Anonymous No.15265110]

>>15265047

Here's babby's first TA from the previous thread.

This latest sell off is quicker than what we experienced in May. It's analogous to the big drop during October 2018.

[Anonymous No.15265132]

Fuck this retarded market, fuck this dumb oompa loompa. Pick one direction instead of jerking me

[SNSS Anon No.15265161]

Just bought some MPLX because it's kinda cheap right now and has good divvies

[Yesterday's OP Anon No.15265163]

Here's the S&P 500, percent change since January 1995.

[Anonymous No.15265167]

>>15264810
Israel! Won't somebody please think of Isreal!?

[Anonymous No.15265190]

>>15265053
jej

[Anonymous No.15265195]

>>15264990
Just be happy you started poor

[Dobber !!qEeBALi+hGB No.15265208]

>>15264777
Trips of truth. Just hodl through snib snab and we‘ll get a parade on the boardwalk.

[Anonymous No.15265216]

>>15265163

[Anonymous No.15265228]

>>15264345
Isn't that what an expense cost is for?

[Anonymous No.15265229]

>>15265216
Has Moonman begun his hunt of the 11?

[Anonymous No.15265239]

>>15264769
>>15264853
The argument is about active vs passive investment. And they're right index funds are freeloaders.
Active investors do the work and find companies to invest in. Indexes simply take the top N companies by market cap and invest by their proportion. They don't do pe ratios, valualtion or anything like that. They are indirectly relying on active investors to do the work for them.
Active investors are the ones who are taking risk by trying to guess which companies will do better than others. This risk is apparent when you see their returns, half of them underperform half of them overperform the markets. Index funds meanwhile simply take the average without regards to fundamentals.
That said index funds are here to stay because their cost is simply unbeatable by active funds. However as more and more of the market goes passive, there might be more and more opportunities for active investors to get better returns.
After all they're the ones in the driving seat.
Consider a stock the 500th stock of the s&p 500. If the stock dips, active investors can get out of the way ahead of all the passive investors. This arbitrage doesn't exist today as there aren't enough passive investors to dump on. But if 50% of the market is passive, you can bet that simple index restructuring will have massive effect on prices.

[Anonymous No.15265242]

>>15265216
We're going to zero?

[Anonymous No.15265259]

>>15265242
that shows us going back to 0% gains over the 1995 stock market level. So we'd just be going back to where markets were in 1995. either earnings would have to plummet more than 50% or we'd be looking at record, cosmically ultra low P/E numbers that have never been seen before

[Anonymous No.15265281]

>>15265080
I agree. I don't understand this shit.
>everyone agrees china is a problem
>no actual ideas on how to fix it
>trump does something
>noooo not that :(

[Anonymous No.15265288]

is buying this gnc dip a bad idea or a horrible idea

[Anonymous No.15265327]

>>15265216
Thanks blumf

[Anonymous No.15265396]

>CGC
My god....
How bad was the conference call?

[Anonymous No.15265411]

>>15265281
the market is going down because there is no way to beat china. the best strategy was to gracefully pass the baton of superpower to china. this is looking less likely now.

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.15265447]

>>15265411
>the market is going down because there is no way to beat china
lol, we can beat china the same way we beat the ruskies, but it won't be easy and we're going to have to psy-op the majority of the morons in this country.

[Anonymous No.15265455]

>>15265411
Well it wouldn't be a big deal if Americans learn to live with all their dumb shit but
>implying

China is far from winning shit bin fact they are a step away from total collapse imho. They need us more than we need them.

[Anonymous No.15265473]

>>15265411
+50 social credit score for template Chang post.
-25 social credit score for bad capitalization.

[Anonymous No.15265474]

>>15265281

If Trump framed challenging China as a great patriotic war, and that America needed to sacrifice in order to bring China to heel but that he would try to stem the damage of the tariffs with subsidies, maybe things might have been different.

But he staked his presidency on the level of the DOW, and in the last 48 hours his tweets reiterate this fact.

If you want to do China, just fucking do it. Don't go back and forth.

No country is going to purposefully sign a deal that destroys themselves economically.

[Anonymous No.15265484]

chances that GE bankruptcy pulls the lid off on all the toxic pensions and insurance liabilities that were written and sold in bulk by phony capital groups?

[Anonymous No.15265505]

>>15265455
this is this stupid mentality that got us into this mess in the first place. look, america made shit tonnes of money working with china, made billion dollar companies, had full employment, great consumer sentiment and all that shit that was going great. now you're throwing it all away to try and get a 1% more edge in a trade deal. the losses do not justify the cost, hell, we don't even know what the total bill is yet and what the potential gain is. call my cynical but the amount of lost growth and time will probably never be worth whatever the trade deal gets if we even get one.

[Anonymous No.15265517]

Tim Apple, Jeff Amazon pls save our economy

[Anonymous No.15265527]

>>15262278
>buy a house
>rent money goes to equity instead of a garbage fire
>buy new house
>rent out old house
>rinse and repeat until you get desired passive income from rent per month

[Anonymous No.15265534]

>>15265447
>>15265455
>>15265473

Trump needed to galvanize America against China similar to how America was galvanized after 9/11.

The time is ticking. Tick tick tick.

China is going to win because they can endure more pain and they have a much more cohesive society.

Trump believes the above, because he wouldn't have backed down on tariffs. He is licking Xi's ass right now trying to get them back on the negotiation table.

[Yesterday's OP Anon No.15265538]

Yield curve and bond market primer for the /biz/lets

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1161766324642750465.html

[Anonymous No.15265539]

>>15265505
I don't want no deal with the chinks if they don't sort themselves out. But working with a country paying slave wages and running a nightmare dystopia should go against anyone's belief system when they exploit that to get ahead and devalue their currency into the dirt.

Fuck everything about China. It's time to acknowledge it as the greatest threat to the free world.

[Anonymous No.15265562]

>>15265239
>Indexes simply take the top N companies by market cap and invest by their proportion. They don't do pe ratios, valualtion or anything like that. They are indirectly relying on active investors to do the work for them.
Not really true or else there wouldn't be so many index funds right? Look at vanguard they have several index funds with different stocks between them. They pick and choose those they believe will provide good returns. I'd honestly expect them to do a modicum of analysis before picking a stock. Even though it might not be as in-depth as an active trader.

[Anonymous No.15265571]

>>15265539
you're mixing in political ideology with business. i don't care if they are paying their people slave wages or if they are running a dystopia, that's their problems not mine. my problem is not having enough money. and not working with China to make money is a lost opportunity.

[Anonymous No.15265578]

>>15265505

>look, america made shit tonnes of money working with china, made billion dollar companies, had full employment, great consumer sentiment and all that shit that was going great.

It's all a mirage. America pays for this with the destruction of their own industry.

40 years ago it would have been American workers producing all the trinkets that China sends over. Sure, the prices for cheap shit might have been higher but so were the wages for the workers.

Short term profit vs long term gain. America has been playing the short term game for a long time now because Presidential terms are only 4 years at a time.

[Anonymous No.15265579]

>>15265534
You are so fucking delusional. But by all means, keep believing whatever you want.

[Anonymous No.15265580]

>>15265455
wrong. china already won. they needed the technology and knowledge from us. now, they don't need us anymore. whatever the losses from trade deals will be amplified more heavily for the side that's reliant on capital markets (burgers). where as, china can keep going at whatever pace they want with a fully integrated economy and selling to whoever they want to sell to.

face it, yuan is the future.

[Anonymous No.15265590]

NEW

>>15265587
>>15265587
>>15265587

[Anonymous No.15265597]

>>15265505
Call me cynical, but gracefully bowing out and passing the baton to the “unbeatable” China has consequences far worse than a global economic collapse.

Let’s see how they handle dissent. This Hong Kong thing may show you just how much is at stake.

>>15265571
>being myopic
Dilate your perspective

[Anonymous No.15265601]

>>15265538
>if you are a man making a patronizing comment or restating what has already been said so you can look smart: sorry, that's an instant block.

[Anonymous No.15265607]

>>15265474
We don't live in post-9/11 times, USA patriotism is about as mainstream as Hanson and Billy Joel.
If it was we would see it in the marketing in the US; it isn't stars and stripes forever but instead its pink, magenta, and brown.

[Anonymous No.15265611]

TWICE NOW IVE BOUGHT A STOCK BECAUSE OF THIS NIGGER, AND TWICE NOW IT HAS TANKED IMMEDIATELY AFTER

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/buffett-buys-more-bank-of-america-stock-with-stakes-value-rising-to-29-billion-2019-07-26

[Anonymous No.15265619]

>>15265534
Trump can't galvanize shit because the country is already torn in half with this impeachment nonsense

[Anonymous No.15265620]

>>15265611
just buy BRK bro

[Anonymous No.15265624]

>>15265578
you don't even have the number of workers needed to produce all the the shit china makes. employment is at record low remember? you would have to pay them more wages than the service sector to even have enough people to manufacture all that shit. that would raise the costs of all the goods and services in the country. unless you want to import millions of more immigrants and low skilled workers to fill in those positions.

[Anonymous No.15265627]

>>15265527
Buying a house can be considered an investment but it's an overrated investment. Unless you do a meme like cash out refinancing you have to consider the opportunity cost of the down payment. Another major factor is the ratio of renting to buying in the area.

[Anonymous No.15265633]

>>15265571

Enriching your geopolitical revival is a bad strategic decision.

Think how the Cold War would have turned out if America utilized the USSR for their cheap labour, in favour of mandatory IP and high tech transfer.

That's essentially what's happened. A lot of Americans died fighting the Chinese in the 1950s.

There is a word for your position: treason.

[Anonymous No.15265651]

>>15265597
>>putting political ideology over business opportunities

stay poor.

>>15265597
what the fuck are you talking about passing the baton? working with them in a mutually beneficial relationship is not 'passing the baton'.

[Anonymous No.15265658]

>>15265578
Don't forget Clinton did this.

>>15265611
He's looking long term. Like 10yrs plus long term, not minute to minute like you.

[Anonymous No.15265659]

why are you guys so butthurt? just sell your burger index for chinese index. it's not a big deal.

[Anonymous No.15265660]

>>15265562
Nope. An index is simply a mathematical formula.
The s&p 500 is the top 500 stocks by market cap.
Higher market cap gets higher weightage.
It could be true that vanguard have special indexes that are way more involved but none of it even comes close to the work done by active investors.

At the end of the day you're buying a stake in a business. A passive approach cannot quantify what businesses make more money in the long run. If there was such an approach there wouldnt be any need for active investors.

[Anonymous No.15265661]

>>15265627
>Another major factor is the ratio of renting to buying in the area.
I live in LA, so rent is sky-high as is the ratio of renting to buying. hell, if you have the income to cover some months of potentially not having a tenant, you can rent out whatever you bought for more than the monthly payment of your mortgage

[Anonymous No.15265669]

>>15265633
haha hilarious, anytime you guys hear something you don't want to hear it's treason. give me a break. here's what the problem is, you guys are /pol/tards in disguise. this is /biz/ gtfo.

[Anonymous No.15265716]

>>15265517
>Tim Apple, Jeff Amazon pls save our economy
Amazon is gonna literally own the market and thus in turn the world. You should see all the markets they're taking over
https://youtu.be/UyohSu-Ft_U
Cyberpunk dystopia here we come

[Anonymous No.15265766]

>>15265484
>toxic pensions
Oh shit, Liz Warren in the house. Hide the wampum.

[Anonymous No.15265825]

>>15265627
>Another major factor is the ratio of renting to buying in the area.
My mortgage is less than what I paid in rent, guy. Not every market is the same. You have to actually do the homework on your own area not rely on generalizations.

[Anonymous No.15265887]

>>15263696
>leverage invest at the top of the longest bullrun in history
>higher expense ratios on leveraged ETFs than regular market tracking ETFs
>higher volatility actually leads to LOWER net gains over time

[Anonymous No.15265902]

>It could be true that vanguard have special indexes that are way more involved but none of it even comes close to the work done by active investors.
Yeah I mentioned vanguard cause I know they have two or 3 indexes that average about 12% every year. I've seen them advised alot because of their proven track record. Once I start invest I intend to be using them. Thinking 50% in them since I don't tend to be very active and I'll be trying the rest out in the market testing to see how my mental fortitude and decisions fail me.

[Anonymous No.15265933]

>>15265611
Dude you really shouldn't be following buffet. The guys got tons of cash he can make savvy investments with without panicking at the first drop. Don't try to play his game. Your minor league bro
>>15265658
>He's looking long term. Like 10yrs plus long term, not minute to minute like you.

[Anonymous No.15265979]

>>15265658
>He's looking long term. Like 10yrs plus long term, not minute to minute like you.

>89 years old
>He's playing the long game
Wrong or not this is actually hilarious

[Anonymous No.15265996]

>>15265660
Meant for you>>15265902

[Anonymous No.15266016]

>>15265933
i know he plays the long game, i just would have assumed it caught his attention for a specific reason that would benefit me short- or mid-term as well. but now im just trying to pull out all my stocks at least slightly above what i paid for them as i prepare for a full-blown recession.

[Anonymous No.15266073]

>>15266016
The dude just bought $1bn of Amazon. Why don't you rather get some Amazon then? They're only gonna grow

[Anonymous No.15266093]

>>15265093
Sold for a cheeky $11.50 profit, about 3.8%, not shabby after surviving that drop. Going on a 2 week vacation tomorrow, fuck these markets desu.

[Anonymous No.15266152]

>>15266073
because one share in amazon is almost half my portfolio value. right now im half invested in AMD, and half invested in divs, and 15 shares of bank of america. im trying to close out everything whenever it becomes less than a huge loss, except for AMD, which i feel secure enough in holding until we see 34+ again. although i should have cashed out last week when it was 34 i think, i knew that was the short-term high, but long-term it could be much higher. on the other hand, after the last few days i expect a full recession, and dont want to have to hold throughout however long that will last, and maybe AMD will be less competitive after the fact that their stock never hits 40 or whatever number would have made that worthwhile

[Anonymous No.15266251]

>>15265611

[Anonymous No.15266266]

>>15266152
Amd stock still has another year of solid growth cemented. Their pretty slideshows make it easy for whales to see that they'll be dominating the server market and they're gaining alot of consumer marketshare.
Honestly hold your AMD till shortly after their next CPU releases next year. You should see a bump in their stocks and you can cash out then.
Why don't you gamble your bank of America shares in crypto? It's bad enough you just jumped on buffets movement without any reason other than you thought rather than you know that the company is doing something to increase its value to the market.

[Anonymous No.15266351]

>>15261875
He's just mocking the retarded chinks.

[Anonymous No.15266367]

>>15266266
well now ive jumped on something twice becuase of big dick buffet, ive learned not to do that. crypto actually seems like an alright idea, exclusively when stocks are going to shit, because it seems like people move their money there in that case. but then again shorting stocks would basically amount to the same thing. but im bad enough and inecperienced enough with the stock market that idk that im comfortable with either of those. the most i do is buy SQQQ, but you never know when we'll have a huge upward swing in this market

and i agree with you about AMD, idk why anyone wouldn't, but if a recession is coming, no one is safe. i can only hope thats far enough away for AMD to come to fruition

[Anonymous No.15266467]

>>15266367
Check>>15266452