Serious question

[Dangle Waffle No.15128389]

Is life a ZERO SUM GAME??

for you to sell.. some needs to buy..

For you to buy... someone needs to sell....

For you to eat someone has to starve...

[Anonymous No.15128405]

>>15128389
>for you to fug someone has to get fug'd

[Anonymous No.15128429]

>>15128389
>For you to eat someone has to starve
This isn't true at all. I am not self reliant, but I have a garden and get meat locally sourced, nobody is starving because of me.
What a shit outlook you have anon.

[Anonymous No.15128432]

>>15128389
>For you to eat someone has to starve...
what a retard

[Anonymous No.15128447]

>For you to live, someone needs to die

[Anonymous No.15128463]

>>15128389
>For you to shit, someone has to shove the shit into their own asshole

[Anonymous No.15128491]

>for you to be happy, someone else must be sad

[Anonymous No.15128497]

>For you to be cured of HIV, you have to have sex with a virgin

[Anonymous No.15128506]

>>15128491
I make everyone very happy!!

[Anonymous No.15128515]

>>15128389

not necessary, but money is, indeed, a zero sum game, unless you are the one printing the money when you win someone losses

[Anonymous No.15128517]

>for you to post this on /biz/ another thread had to die

>>15128405
>>15128429
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>>15128447
>>15128463
>>15128491
>>15128497
guess what faggots? op was right all along

[Anonymous No.15128522]

>>15128389
>For me to have a wank someone needs to be celibate

[Anonymous No.15128893]

If you have a cart full of apples and eat all the apples you will explode.

[Anonymous No.15128922]

OP here .

>>15128405
>>15128429
>>15128432
>>15128447
>>15128463
>>15128491
>>15128497

since you disagree.. please refute...

[Anonymous No.15128937]

>>15128405
does someone not?

[Anonymous No.15128956]

>>15128429
AGREED.. perhaps "life" is not the correct correlation..but "money" is?

[Anonymous No.15128961]

>>15128922
There's 7.53 billion people eating, where are the 7.53 billion starving?
Fucking retard

[Anonymous No.15129014]

>>15128922
If 1 person die = 1 person live
Then where the fuck do all the people come from?
Do you even stop to think for a minute?

[Anonymous No.15129043]

>>15128389
it is, for /biz/ to be rich, reddit (or goldman sachs and others) needs to buy our linkies at 1000$ a pop at tve height of tve next bubble , then we throw a yacht party and laugh (while cuties suck our cocks) while redditors baghold chainlink down to 50$, then we buy more than we had.

[Anonymous No.15129051]

>>15128389
That is a serious question. And this is a serious answer. Yes. Yes, life is a zero sum game. Consider all of your successes and earnings as a positive. No matter how great and seemingly long-lasting, they will eventually be negated by the all destructive force of niggers. Niggers have it even worse, for they only know destruction. Their accomplishments are the death of yours, and ultimately - theirs.

[Anonymous No.15129059]

>>15128961
NO.

this is merely an example...

500M live in Europe.. they can only produce 300M (equivalent) worth of food.. where do they get it from?

Another country that has excess??

Yes... But if you continue to reduce everything down?.. what do you get?

[Anonymous No.15129074]

>>15128389
Uh oh, pissed discord trannies incoming! Hahahahaha

[Anonymous No.15129079]

>>15129059
Yeah? The fuck do you think export and import is?

[Anonymous No.15129097]

>>15129051
TOP FUCKING <KEK>

thread worth it now.. fuck off everyone else

[Anonymous No.15129135]

for a nigger to be born, a chimp needs to dies

[Anonymous No.15129140]

>>15129097
>illiterate faggot also has a nihilistic outlook and a wicked sense of humor

[Anonymous No.15129152]

no, if it were zero sum, none of this would be able to exist by definition. if you're talking about monetary and value transactions in various voluntary systems created by humans at any moment it can be seen as a zero sum game but in general the wealth level is either growing or decreasing so over time it's not a zero sum game

[Anonymous No.15129160]

>>15129079

does it not come from another country's excess? if so.. then they in turn have mouths to feed that have their fill of X. So they look in "import what they have a "need " for.. cycle repeats...

Earth only has X amount of X
Like I said this was a serious question...

[Anonymous No.15129212]

>>15129152
thanks for the thought filled reply.. if you were to think outside the "EARTH" would that statement still apply??

[Anonymous No.15129242]

>>15129160
Okay, think about the sun.
It has already existed for 4 million years and will exist for 5 millions more. What would make the sun go zero sum?

[Anonymous No.15129262]

>>15129097
Not saying 'don't try' though. I think the only chance to avoid (or further prolong) this ZSG is to escape earth and become a space-faring species. Niggers are the great filter we must overcome.

[Anonymous No.15129280]

>>15129212
well the first part of what I was saying, yes, because I meant that the existence of anything at all implies not a sum of zero, which since this is /biz/ maybe wasn't what you were asking, is that what you're talking about? for some reading that I think deals with the idea check out Carl Jung's VII Sermones ad Mortuos:

http://gnosis.org/library/7Sermons.htm

[Anonymous No.15129385]

>>15128389
>>15128389
No life is iterated games of cooperation called Traveler's Dilemma and Hawks & Doves.

The basic principal is that the whole of an ecosystem is improved through cooperation, but the wellbeing of individuals is incrementally greater through defection. In both models and reality, a split (typically floating around 80/20) between cooperation and defection 'win,' so you tend to see a lot of emergent social behaviors to mediate the formation of coalitions. Prokaraotic cells, multicellular organisms, inter-species cooperation, and other emergent effects of evolution all stem from the fact that improving the ecosystem as a whole benefits all organisms within it to a greater degree than the average organism would benefit from a pure lassez faire 'tragedy of the commons.'

[Anonymous No.15129710]

>>15129242
okay.. it has burnt for 4M years... that equals X amount of matter dispersed over X amount of space....

can you see where I am going with this??

[Anonymous No.15131071]

>>15128515
when you print, everyone else loses.

[Anonymous No.15131452]

>>15128389
Agreed with OP.
Conservation of energy means nothing is created nor destroyed, ergo zero sum. Even seemingly irrational systems like human behavior could be boiled down to zero sum interactions if you had enough data.
That being said, there has probably never been a truly even zero sum interaction between two humans since the beginning of time, which fuels the mirage that this isn't zero sum. It is.
Someone always wins when an interaction occurs, even if it's just by burning marginally less calories in the process.

[Anonymous No.15131471]

>>15128956
you can print more money into the world, but that doesn't make more wealth come into being
you can make more wealth come into the world (building/creating something, writing a novel, studying nature and publishing your findings, writing a hypothesis on the function of reality), but that doesn't produce more money

the bottom line: money is a medium for the exchange of wealth/value
a marvelous tool—quite possibly the greatest tool humanity has ever realized—but nothing more

the only aspect of reality that one could reasonably argue is "zero sum" is the fact that there is a finite amount of total potential energy in our observable universe—and while it may seem pretty irrational to equate the observable universe's energy to something that humanity may ever have a grasp on, even the total potential energy limited to the earth and its resources alone stands to make even the wildest and most outlandish predictions for humanity's prosperity and energy usage look wildly insignificant

in practical terms, there is nothing "zero sum" about life
your prosperity does not inherently come at the expense of another living thing—and, in fact, you would benefit if you were in possession of or earning a consistent amount of money during a time of the production of many goods and services and the lack of the printing and distribution of any new currency, as the price of these goods would drop as a result of their abundance
but, i'm getting ahead of myself
the burden of proof, in this case, would be on the person who assumes that it does, and that some sort of action must be taken against people who want to prosper
so—if you do wish to take such action against people seeking prosperity, it's all eyes and ears from us, mate
show the irrefutable proof, if you've got it

[Anonymous No.15131497]

>>15128389
that's why market makers exist, yes they're taking the other side of your trade, potentially even what that was bad for them, but they mitigate and overcome this risk by collecting fees on each trade, and by stop/liq hunting

[Anonymous No.15131548]

>>15128389
Also, starvation is a consequence of improper utilization of resources. An unfarmed field is as much zero sum as a farmed one, since the output of a farmed field will always be equal to the efforts made to farm it. Regardless of efficiency, the effort and outputs will always add up to zero.
Then you get to the human systems, and all notion of the zero sum game is thrown into the wind as the farmer gets drowned by regulations and middlemen that improperly translate the value of their work for society by the time it gets to any consumer.

[Anonymous No.15131572]

>>15129135
back to pol

[Twitter.com/KadaneZod No.15131783]

>>15128389
Been saying this for ages.
YES ANON.
every breath you take, something sentient has to suffer.

One of society's function is to delude masses away from the crippling guilt they'd otherwise feel.

[Anonymous No.15132907]

>>15128961
Some of those who are eating are still starving, so your numbers are off. Still agreeing with you that eating is not a zero sum game, since less people are starving than those who get enough to eat.

[Anonymous No.15133473]

>>15128389
>life is a zero-sum game
Gee that's probably why the quality of life for the average person hasn't improved in the last 500 years.

[Anonymous No.15133483]

sperry topsiders rekt my foot arches for life
dont let it happen to you

[Anonymous No.15133555]

>>15128389
>for you to sell.. some needs to buy
wrong kiddo
stock market has central banks printing money 24h
we have tether

[Anonymous No.15133627]

>>15131783
Yess a man of culture

NEWMFX has the best brappers clips

[Anonymous No.15133659]

>>15129710
Do you understand the point you're trying to make?
explain to me what you think zero sum means and how that relates to what you said.

[Anonymous No.15133665]

>>15128429
do you have any idea how many brown people your forefathers had to rape, rob and enslave for you to have all that comfy shit?

[Anonymous No.15134043]

>>15128389
Value of goods and currency is relative. When an exchange happens is because what the other person gives up is of less value than what he obtains. Both parties have a net gain.

A dollar for a can of soda might be too much if you already have a pallet with 300 cans sitting in your store. But for the guy who has gone for a jog in the midst of summer after running ten miles the dollar means nothing compared to the hydration the drink has to offer to him. It's the same for every other possible exchange.

[Twitter.com/KadaneZod No.15134725]

>>15133627
Fuck yeah love dem Brazilian lezzos since the early MFX

[Anonymous No.15134733]

>>15128405