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Where is the 40% wallet? Xander said it was "locked in".

Got banned from telegram for asking

https://etherscan.io/token/0xa0cca3cf5c64152883f4c947c404e46996593fa7#balances

>> No.15004433

Xander being out is actually pretty bullish

>> No.15004460

>>15004433
Ok xander.

>> No.15004497

>>15004433
lol this

>> No.15004663

>>15004413
he has said repeatedly that those tokens would be spent on marketing and development, leaving him with ~10%
>amazing how much time is spent creating fictions to fud an active project 6 weeks in, despite how loudly they scream 'its ogre'
the absolute state of no brappers

>> No.15004668

why the fuck are you bullish on fart token dumbass?

>> No.15004694

>>15004413
I honestly don't understand why you'd find this surprising. It's a fucking make believe get rich quick scam token. Literally a joke, the only purpose was to make a few early adopters some easy money off of suckers. So you'd be surprised if they exit scammed? Heh, ok.

>> No.15004701

>>15004413
any time there's buy orders he dumps on them. There are no buys in any exchange

>> No.15004703

>>15004413
The shitty 4chan coin based on fart memes is a scam? I'm shocked!

>> No.15004714

>>15004694
There's a bunch of other guys running it that take it seriously and turned it into a typical no fun allowed coin, that killed it more than Xander ever could have

>> No.15004746

>>15004714
No. You are falling into the same trap every retard who bought 0xBTC or Turtlecoin did early.

A scam artist doesn't tell you they're scamming. None of these guys want to go to jail, which they absolutely would if they didn't at least *pretend* to take it seriously.

But think about it, really. It's based off of a fucking 4chan meme. It started from 4chan guys, was shilled to 4chan, airdrops to 4chan. It's called "BRAP" ffs. It was NEVER a serious project, but in order to continue to dump on scrubs they do the bare minimum to make it look like there's work going on and this is a "serious" project.

Don't be a fucking fool, anon. That's all part of the game.

>> No.15004800

>>15004413
It's literally
LITERALLY
called brap token.
Fucking brap token come on dude why are you posting this serious thread like you're in the big short doing detective work. How could it not be a scam?
HOW COULD IT NOT ANON

>> No.15004809

>>15004413
nigger he cant exit scam, there are no buyers for to dump

>> No.15004810

>>15004800
>b-but people on /biz/ said it wasn't a scam!
kek. Enduring the nonstop shilling of these total shitcoins for months is worth it when the retards that get scammed finally start realizing they made a mistake.

>> No.15004820

>exit scammed

you cant really call it an exit scam, because it was a scam FROM DAY 1. how did anyone not see this? you bought in hoping to ride the scam-moon? you deserve to lose your money.

the only people who have shit to gain from BRAP are the people who received airdrops, ive said it before and i will continue to say it. there is no--zero--reason to buy, because it has no purpose and the initial reason for creating it was simply to get rich off dumping airdrop bags onto suckers

if you buy in.... you ARE the sucker.

>> No.15004829

Literally no one is surprised. I don't get why you guys didn't just put everything in link instead of this shitcoin.

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>>15004746
>No. You are falling into the same trap every retard who bought 0xBTC or Turtlecoin did early.

People almost entirely mined 0xBTC in the early days. It got listed on CMC and then retards saw it go up 100% in a day, then bought up the price, but the volume was tiny. So almost nobody fell into a trap. Everybody knows the trading is 90% wash, so that means the total volume that bought the price up was only $40k per day for a couple days. The mining has been solid since the start. Miners in USA and China are constantly selling on every market, yet the price refuses to go below $0.20. That means the $1M market cap is accurate. Prepare for a long runup in the next 12 to 18 months.

>> No.15004867

>>15004746
don't involve 0xbtc in whatever point you're trying to make, it's pure-mined and a shining example of a project that can't even be a scam because of how the contract works

>> No.15004889

>>15004867
>mathematically impossible to be a scam
WEW SOUNDS LEGIT ANON

>> No.15004898

>>15004703
Hahaha jeez too real

>> No.15004919

>>15004889
you're just showing you don't know how the contract works. the contract only ever emits tokens in exchange for proof of work.

>> No.15004928

If dumbass Xander leaves the project it will have a chance. I swear the dude is retarded. The devs must be retarded too to follow him, idk man.

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>>15004889
>WEW SOUNDS LEGIT ANON

Well I hate garbage talk too but go ahead and read the contract. I'm not a math person but I did some coding. I can follow it. Code doesn't lie about what it's doing. Look at the MINT function call and the variables like miningTarget, you can debug the values in the Read tab.

https://etherscan.io/address/0xb6ed7644c69416d67b522e20bc294a9a9b405b31#code

>> No.15005038

>>15005024
what does that mean

>> No.15005152

>>15005038
the contract only gives you 0xbtc in exchange for mining a solution to its challenge (same procedure as in bitcoin). there is no known easy way to solve the problem, so it uses energy. that's the only way the contract ever mints tokens, there's no way for some vip to print more at will.

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>>15005038
>what does that mean

MAX_TARGET is 115792089237316195423570985008687907853269984665640564039457584007913129639936 always.

miningTarget is 21271526910302486050457981358149075005488413517817103191680580 and grows smaller over time to make mining harder.

The challengeNumber is the block hash or the previous Ethereum block which you can't predict so pre mining is not possible.

You (the miner) calls the MINT on the contract with a random number that you (the miner) pick. You (your miner software such as COSMIC MIner) already tried billions of guesses until it found a good random number, that is important for what comes next.

The contract checks your random number. (You know it is going to work but the contract is checking for proof) It calculate the value of the SHA hash function of "<MINER><MINERGUESS><CHALLENGENUMBER>".

A hash function is going to take whatever you put into it and generate pure random garbage, it turns anything into a random number. But for one input like "lkj23k23234" is going to generate the same random hash everytime, thats why this works.

The contract checks if the value of your hash number is smaller then miningTarget. If it is, you get the MINT (mining event) and the contract gives your Ethereum account 50 0xBTC.

You can calulcate the odds of your GPU guessing the right MINERGUESS, its MAX_TARGET ÷ miningTarget = 1 in 5,443,525,033,514,841 guesses wich is 5 quadrillion guesses. But a GPU can only do 1 billion guesses in one second so you will never solve a block anymore unless you mine in a pool. Every body in the pool mines together and shares that 50 0xBTC.

There is 50 0xBTC mined every 10 minutes normally. The contract adjusts the difficulty like I said.

There is your proof now you read the contract.

>> No.15005184

>>15004668
it's literally just another monarchy token
and the first advertising I saw for it actively insulted the people whose work they're trying to tokenize, by calling them "eThots"

>> No.15005194

>>15004853
You should absolutely unironically be listening to this man

>> No.15005203

>>15005194
>>15004853
sooo
buy
don't buy?

>> No.15005213

>>15005203
buy 0xbtc don’t buy brap /thread

>> No.15005238

>>15005213
alright, i will

>> No.15005248

>>15005203
>sooo
>buy
>don't buy?

Buy or don't buy, I truly don't care. ITs success is not going to come from biz buying it. If adoption is going to happen, people need to build dapps and normal web sites that use 0xBTC, which the community is working on.

I am just countering FUD.

>> No.15005288

>>15005157
Good explanation but that doesn't mean it will be worth anything or is a good buy

>> No.15005313

>>15005288
totally true. but i'm like, could there be interest in something like bitcoin, but faster, that can be programmed via smart contracts and traded on dexes?

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>>15005288
>Good explanation but that doesn't mean it will be worth anything or is a good buy

Yeah I agree with you. It is solid tech but that doesn't mean anything by itself. They need to get adoption, which is the only thing standing in the way. It is a good community with maybe 5-10 part time devs. They need to pick up the progress.

It is a small and solid small cap worth picking up some to see what happens. It could catch on and make you rich in 5 years / or not.

Im trying to get more involved in the Discord ect, I have a stack and I want to see the price go up. But I'm mildly technical so at least I might be able to help out, it's a lot better than just waiting.

>> No.15005629

>brapper exit scammed
so who actually buys this shit? poor people? and is that why they're poor, cause they're so fucking stupid? at least thats what i notice with shitcoins like this.

>> No.15005650

>>15005629
Pajeets and filipinos mostly.

>> No.15005685

>>15005629
i actually put some eth into it
it was a clear pump and dump, and i thought maybe it could, at some point, do something
clearly very high risk, but that's what i knew i was getting into
on the other hand, zbux actually looks like it will take off, uniroinically

>> No.15005699

>>15005157
>its MAX_TARGET ÷ miningTarget = 1 in 5,443,525,033,514,841

Sorry I actually said this wrong, it is 2^256 ÷ miningTarget = 1 in 5,443,525,033,514,841

2^256 is 115792089237316195423570985008687907853269984665640564039457584007913129639936, which is the correct number I used. So the coputations I showed are correct, just MAX_TARGET is irelevant.

MAX_TARGET is not relevant anymore, it was just the miningTarget that applied at the very beginning of 0xBitcoin mining. (Higher is easier).

>> No.15006139

>>15005203
Don't buy. It is an interesting novelty project but the chance of it gaining traction are minimal. Try and articulate why merchants/dapp developers would want 0xbtc over other erc20s.

>> No.15006154

>>15004413
THE FART TOKEN IS A SCAM!!!?

>> No.15006160

>>15006139
they wanted a coin without infinite supply

>> No.15006161

>>15004413
Shoulda bought Zuckbucks. This was a clear scam from the beginning.

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15006573

THIS IS FUCKING PATHETIC AHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.15006692

STOP BUYING THIS SHIT RETARDS

>> No.15006754

>>15004413
finally ran out of gas

>> No.15006828

Lol, I always thought brap was just a non serious token and everyone knew... do people REALLY thought this was going to work? We’re truly full of newfags

>> No.15006835

oh no my fart coin exit scammed noooo my well researched investment

>> No.15006860

>>15004413
I just want to have as many different tokens as I can on my eth address.
Even though moving them will cost more in gas than the value of the token, gotta love that negative money.

>> No.15006868

>>15006754
Honestly, why aren't more people making gas related jokes? They are so prim.

>> No.15007000

The amount of fud here is pungent.

And no one here knows what an exit scam is.

Bullish. You reading this Sander? Don't give up. Don't let literal retards stop you from succeeding.

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>>15006139
>Don't buy. It is an interesting novelty project but the chance of it gaining traction are minimal. Try and articulate why merchants/dapp developers would want 0xbtc over other erc20s.

The chance is always minimal, though. Every small project that hasn't caught on yet is going to be minimal like that. BTC was minimal for 2 years, everybody laughed at the original BTCers.

But a small cap that does not have much stopping it is good to get in to. Best thing is to get involved in the project and try to help it along. Near 100% of biztards can only sit and wait, so be different.

0xBitcoin is a good idea. Fundamentals of are the same as Bitcoin as far as how it has value, 21m token cap, same mining rate as Bitcoin, and everything. Secured by Ethereum, can't be 51% attacked. And it is a smart contract of course so it can interact with any dapp that wants it. Adoption isn't there but come on it's a $1M cap with a strong community and promise. Don't break the bank on it but at least get in or even join the community.

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15007535

Remember, FUD is a sign of accumulation.

>> No.15007577

>>15007535
This. I'm still accumulating bitconnect so let's keep fudding that anons

>> No.15007591

what the fuck is brap its not even on cmc is it just some stupid meme I'm not getting?

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>>15007591
Coordinated discord incels. Notice how they never post women? They are jealous of other men and women who see them as subhuman. The root of their issues stem from having successful older sisters.

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15007722

literally a meme coin

like that 1 anon up there said....

4chan coin, schilled on 4chan, by 4chan, air dropped on 4chan..... it's a basement dwelling drug addict that made a useless "tipping" token. it's got $200 daily volume, it's not listed on any exchange..... ISSA SCAM!!

>> No.15007789

>>15007535
>0 bids on the order book
>accumulation

anon, I...

>> No.15007816

>>15004867
>it’s bitcoin on ethereum on /biz/ on drugs on steroids
Find me a reason why anyone in the world needs or wants 0xbtc outside of a speculative instrument to get rich off of. Then we can talk :)

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>>15007789
17 exchanges, which order book specifically?

Do you see BRAP traders fudding zuckbucks or fuze? No. What's your beef? Have sex.

>> No.15007870

>>15004413
G
ARSE
S

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>>15007816
>Find me a reason why anyone in the world needs or wants 0xbtc outside of a speculative instrument to get rich off of. Then we can talk :)

It is pretty obvious. People like the way value works with Bitcoin which is that it started at zero and there was / still is a continual auction to figure out what new Bitcoin is worth at the current moment in time. New coins / tokens don't come from a central issuer, you just prove you bought it by proving you spent the right amount of electricity. WHich is why they say Bitcoin and 0xBitcoin have the most decentralized DEX possible. Nobody can ban it or block it because any body can get it from their wall socket if they can pay for the electricity. No body can cheat it.

It opened my mind up to hear them talk about it that way, I never realized it, suddenly Bitcoin and POW makes a lot of sense.

Now for the people that think about it that way, which may be a small group but they may be trend setters, they want to have a store of value they believe in. But Bitcoin is too slow. Its a great store of value but too expensive to transfer. So it's good for buying houses, but, not doing a million smart contract transactions. They might sell 10% of their BTC and buy 0xBTC for smart contract purposes. 0xBTC gives the same POW mining / value advantage they want but also operates with Ethereum contracts at Ethereum block times and at higher TPS and with lower fees.

So it's a good fit for the people who care. Bitcoin used to be the same way. Early evangelists and trend setters.

The next tier of crypto people may care less but they may take their cues from what the early adopters do. Early adopters are giving the coin /token its initial value right now and some initial applications. So the next tier of crypto capable people might follow the lead when they see the future could be good for 0xBTC. It could happen.

Then the very end of the line is "normal people" who will just act like sheep. Which is also 99.99% of biztards.

>> No.15008171

>>15004413
Zentachain

>> No.15008177

Finally. Maybe we're rid of the constant spam, then.

>> No.15008216

>>15005685
>> zuckbux taking off.

No anon... no.

>> No.15008234

>>15007577
Hard kek. I’m accumulating theranos too with all the fud.

>> No.15008237

>>15008177
>He says as SENT spams the fuck out of biz

>> No.15008247

>>15008237
Sent is pure cancer.

>> No.15008255

BRAP on coinbase when?

>> No.15008291
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15008291

>>15007316
>>15008137


Every one of you motherfuckers are ignoring a massive premine of 0xshitcoin

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>>15008291
>Every one of you motherfuckers are ignoring a massive premine of 0xshitcoin

WTF, we just talked this out in another thread going on now, here's a copypaste:

What premine, it was open from the start. HUndreds of people go into it, it grew organicaly.

Heres your proof, the contract was launched 537 days 2 hrs ago (Feb-06-2018 04:03:46 AM +UTC). You can see the launch and also go see the first transactions which were hardly any.

https://etherscan.io/tx/0x5cdcd05f9d6e53e4be3c48095d95caa9d71f0c28f2bd5fe0ab4deeb20b75c026

The Discord was started 2 days later and no premining had been done. Anybody can verify it, use the links here.

<-- The pic is the Discord members count. You can join the Discord if you don't believe it, go read the message history starting from Feb 8.

I already just explained how mining can't be cheated:

>>15005157

Now STFU about your conspiracy theories please.

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>>15008291
>Every one of you motherfuckers are ignoring a massive premine of 0xshitcoin

Sorry I got the wrong pic, here's the original.

>> No.15008398

>>15008355
>4.7m 0xbtc minted between 4000 members

Uh-huh.
Tell me more about how this doesn't mean even more consolidated in the hands of the few than early core

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>>15008398
>Uh-huh.
>Tell me more about how this doesn't mean even more consolidated in the hands of the few than early core

Well that is 4,000 Discord members. Not wallets.

But you're right there are only about 6,000 addresses holding 0xBTC.

I don't think you can have it another way. Money doesn't work how you think if you think it just distributes evenly to everyone. Some people have initiative, skill, luck. Some don't.

The distribution of these mined POW cryptos is way better than the ICO ones. Plus exchanges control the highest balances.

No matter how good something is there will always be people who say this is bullshit, I could have gotten in earlier like those people who got lucky / tried hard, now it's too late so I'm boycotting it. THen they end up getting even less later.

I have a smallish 0xBTc stack but I'm not mad about it. I could have mined it sooner but I didn't, so what. I heard about it a long time before I finally got in, that was my choice. I still have a stack. And Im trying to help the project instead of just complaining on /biz about how life is not fair.

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>>15008552
>>Tell me more about how this doesn't mean even more consolidated in the hands of the few than early core

Curious, when did you first hear about 0xBTC and why didn't you get in? Di you just learn about it a week ago or what? It had been on /biz for 1.5 years, since mining started. What stopped you?

>> No.15008619

>>15008137
hi jason

>> No.15008645

>>15004413
Lmao you guys got exit scammed on a fart token. A fucking fart token. How retarded do you have to be to invest any time or money into this? What the fuck were you expecting? That this literal turd of an idea would make you money? That somehow it would moon and you would "make it"?

No one beyond /biz/ and gross brap fetishists would be interested in this. You guys are not only disgusting, but you're also retarded for sinking time and money into this absolute meme of a coin and you deserve to lose all your money.

You should probably kill yourselves you stupid fucks

>> No.15008901

>>15008645
Explain how it's an exit scam. I'll wait. And don't say "lol ur dumb" because then you're hust a buttflustered coordinated discord fudder.

Also there's a porn site called Dogfart.

>> No.15008910

>>15004413
>Was one of the early airdrop recipients
>69,000,000 BRAP
>Didn't think anything of it
>Saw threads saying exchanges had listed it
>Ignored it
>Saw it had been listed on EtherFlyer
>Wtf
>Drip sold all 69 million over two days, made 1.5 ETH

Thanks for the free money /biz/

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Holy shit you little brappies are so immature and stupid. Your simple minded naivety almost makes me laugh. whores arnt going to want to use a coin that is the equivalent of "farters" . It's not sexy. Farty coins don't buld on the sexy image for adult professionals. Why would they want to use "fart butt" coin. Think about it you pathetic brappies.

>> No.15008978

>>15008291
ill premine that ass bitch after im dummi rich off my 0xshitcoin #yeet #yolo

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>>15008645
Do explain how it is an exitscam if the founder still holds his coins, the top 10 wallets haven't sold, the devs are still working and it was listed on 7 more exchanges this last week. I'm waiting.

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>>15008398
>Uh-huh.
>Tell me more about how this doesn't mean even more consolidated in the hands of the few than early core

Hey anon why didn't you get into 0xBTC back when it launched in February of 2018 or at any point in the past year-and-a-half?

You saw the proof in this thread of why there wasn't any 0xBitcoin premine. The first days and weeks after the contract launched the community was posting announcements everywhere important for crypto stuff. You must have seen it, so why are you complaining about not getting in early enough?

And despite all that, the fact that it is still early, but you're still not getting in. You make me feel like an aspie, I can't understand your illogical thinking.

>> No.15009575

>>15007535
I'd pan sear her turds on a hot cast iron, add a sprig of rosemary, pad of butter, clove or two of garlic and wash it all down with a nice pinot.

brap.me/rosemary