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14723503 No.14723503 [Reply] [Original]

Is it normal for a coin to go into a fucking death spiral immediately after a series of huge developments and news?

>> No.14723511

>>14723503
only if it's a pump & dump scam

>> No.14723514

>>14723503
only if the devs dump the shit out of it every day for weeks afterwards

>> No.14723523

>>14723511
>>14723514
two years

>> No.14723526

Remember when 0x and BAT were added to Coinbase? Now look at their price. A coin being added to Coinbase means its time to dump it.

>> No.14723535

>>14723523
yes. I had two years, I bought in early 2017 and dumped the fuck out of it at the top and now I'm laughing at the fanatic bagholders still holding on to hope. I had two years to realise it's shit and overvalued.

>> No.14723558
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>>14723511
>>14723514
I'm willing to hear all sides, but piss the shit off with this "they're dumping" bullshit.

>> No.14723590

>>14723526
Being listed on Coinbase actually pumped Link. Twice.

It's just that after each announcement there's a green spike immediately followed by a slow bleed, until the next announcement.

>> No.14723595

>>14723503
It's called sell the news retard. The only kind of movement up that happens as a result of good news is long term as actual value gets pushed into the asset from adoption.

Literally anything else is just buy the rumor sell the news speculation.

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>>14723595
>It's called sell the news
As in "buy the rumor, sell the news"?
So what was the rumor?

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>>14723595
>The only kind of movement up that happens as a result of good news is long term as actual value gets pushed into the asset from adoption.
Adoption like pic related?
Or Oracle?

>> No.14723635

>>14723609
the "breadcrumbs" were the rumours. The oracle and google announcements were the "news" and now it's dumping. Bye

>> No.14723649

>>14723635
But people first bought the news. Massively.
And breadcrumbs never moved the price.

So the saying is now "don't buy the rumor, buy the news, and sell afterwards"?

>> No.14723665

>>14723635
Are you gay?

>> No.14723673

>>14723649
because people didn't believe the rumours, it's fucking rumours bro. The news was good and it made people buy in the first days, but then everyone sold. Just get over it

>> No.14723682

>>14723665
nope, but since you are sucking Sergeys dick everyday I would assume you're

>> No.14723693

>>14723673
>people bought Link because of rumors they didn't believe
>oh, and then they bought the news as well because they sold the news
Your head is up your ass twice, son.

>> No.14723707

>>14723693
The smart money bought the rumours and dumped after the news. The dumb money bought the news and baghold now. Fucking brainlet stupid pajeet

>> No.14723760

>>14723707
>The smart money bought the rumours and dumped after the news.
So the smart money bought the retarded dot connecting?
You're so enamored with this "buy the rumor sell the news" adage that you're breaking your spine trying to make events fit.

Chainlink doesn't do "announcements of announcements" or rumors, ever.
Each announcement from the past few weeks came out of nowhere and was bought MASSIVELY instead of sold. On huge volume.
Even the Oracle news was bought instead of sold, even though Frenando did announce his announcement.

"Buy the rumor, sell the news" does not fit anywhere.

>> No.14723784

>>14723760
You are retarded, there is no fixing it. You will always be the dumb fucking retard aka dumb money in this market because your brain is too small to comprehend what is actually going on.

>> No.14723812

>>14723784
Says the faggot who thinks green candles on nearly 100k BTC volume = "selling the news".

>> No.14723824

>>14723682
OK because that 'Bye' shit just seems pretty gay or woman like

>> No.14723830

>>14723503
Dis thang ova.

>> No.14723968

>>14723812
What do you think "selling" means, brainlet.
It means putting sell orders that, when filled, will net you some nice gains.
So "selling the news" meant putting sell orders at $3.50 - $5.
They got filled.
Then the market wanted more LINK, big wallets wanted more USD / BTC and therefore more LINK got dumped at these prices. It didn't moon higher because enough people were comfortable selling this "low".
And now the buying pressure is drying up and us stinky linkies are bleeding.
The news got sold, hard.
Deal with it.

>> No.14723987

>>14723968
>"selling the news" can involve massive green candles, as long as SOME people sold
Keep being more and more retarded.

>> No.14724025

>>14723987
Jesus fucking Christ, my sides.
Do you even know what the candles represent, my man

>> No.14724044

>>14724025
>Do you even know what the candles represent
Price going up?

Just because SOME people sold doesn't mean you can say "this news was sold" when the price shows massive uptick.
You dumbass.

>> No.14724129

>>14724025
You keep confusing your own lingo. Smart money bought rumours that apparently no one believed, then smart money dumped into a huge green candle, practically negating the whole "selling the news" paradigm because normally the price would dump (see: SIBOS 2017). You're trying to sound smart but you're actually a retard who is partly right at best.

>> No.14724168

>>14724044
>>14724129
You are both retarded desu

>> No.14724181

>>14724168
>sees green candles after announcement
>"haha classic case of sell the news guy'ze!"

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>>14723503
It is very much the norm. People hype up so-called "announcements" thinking they're going to be huge, but get disappointed when the price doesn't immediately 10x
Whenever you see that everyone is waiting on an "announcement" or "news," that's you're sell signal.

>> No.14724208

>>14724203
There were no announcements of announcements.

>> No.14724217

>>14723535
Lmao please god post proof of your trades

>> No.14724218

>>14724208
cope

>> No.14724228

>>14724218
Cope with what? Being right?

>> No.14724240

>>14724129
We have IDs on this fucking board for a reason.
>>14724044
>Just because SOME people sold doesn't mean you can say "this news was sold" when the price shows massive uptick.
"Sell the news" doesn't isn't a warning that the price will go back to pre-rumors level, based retard. It means to take advantage of opportunities to sell stuff at a massive profit at the top of speculative FOMO mini-buggle.
For link this time this was the 4.50-5 range.
There will be other news and depending on them we may see much higher tops.
They will also be speculative and people selling at them will indeed be selling the news.
Holders will keep holding until actual adoption.

>> No.14724241

>>14723503
you nulinkers are going to get absolutely assraped when the next green dildo hits. Sell low, buy high retards.

>> No.14724251

>>14724240
Also send ambulance I appear to be having a stroke.

>> No.14724262

>>14724240
So "sell the news" now also includes "sell the highs".

My god, you need to let go of this "buy the rumor sell the news" shit, it's completely taking over your entire thinking process.

>> No.14724270

>>14724168
There is 3 of us arguing actually. We have ids on /biz/ newfag

>> No.14724273

>>14724181
The whole phrase is about doing the opposite of what everyone else is doing so yes, a big green candle after an announcement is a signal to sell the news. You are embarrassing yourself.

>> No.14724282

>>14724240
I'm not the other guy you're arguing with. There just happen to be two anons who think you're a dumbass

>> No.14724290

>>14724273
>a big green candle after an announcement is a signal to sell the news.
Listen to yourself.
"The news was bought so that means you have to sell the news now after the news was bought, which means people sold the news even though it was bought".

Stop letting this "buy the rumor sell the news" thing take over your entire brain.

>> No.14724306

>>14724270
Im obviously talking to the 2 retards that im quoting, bitch.

>> No.14724343

>>14724262
It's not a rule I follow. I am a link marine who's never selling.
I'm explaining to you the meaning of one of the fundamental principles of day trading.
>So "sell the news" now also includes "sell the highs".
It means "good news will create a mini-bubble so you will be able to sell at a good profit there."
I don't get how this is a hard concept.
Selling does not usually mean market selling, it's usually decided in advance. Many people thought "if these rumors are true I will be able to sell LINK at x5+ profit" and put sell orders accordingly.
>>14724282
We. Have. Fucking. IDs. For. A. Reason.
My first post here is >>14723968
Idiot.

>> No.14724362

>>14724343
>It means "good news will create a mini-bubble so you will be able to sell at a good profit there."
That's not "selling the news" though.

That's "selling high", after the news was bought.

>> No.14724397

>>14723503

It is when the devs hold 65% of the token supply.

>> No.14724414

>>14723503
Is it normal to fud a token this much? What's the point? Fuck off

>> No.14724418

>>14724306
You quoted me you absolute bell end

>> No.14724436 [DELETED] 

>>14724414
I'm not fudding, read the thread.

It's just baffling to me that Link's price always plummets by like 50% after major good news, on like a tenth of the pump volume.

>> No.14724459

>>14724414
I'm not fudding, read the thread.

It's just baffling to me that after each major good news pump, Link's price always plummets by like 50% on like a tenth of the pump volume.

>> No.14724478

>>14723503
they were fake "marketing" partnerships, and the product is not decentralized, so YES. It was all Bullshit.

>> No.14724483

>>14724418
I did and you are one of two retards that I quoted which is why I said 'both'. Are you unable to count to two (2)? Lmao

>> No.14724485

>>14724362
>That's not "selling the news" though.

>That's "selling high", after the news was bought.
Buying the news, unless you manage to do it in the first 5 seconds before anyone else has, is a bad idea.
If you bought the LINK news 2 days after they landed you'd be in the red now.
This is why the advice is not "buy the news".
The advice is to sell the news because that's when you can grab a nice profit.
If you are late, the price will bleed out because the FOMO unleashed by the news is always short lived.
Are you trying on purpose not to understand? Am I talking to a troll? Too drunk to tell.

>> No.14724507

>>14724485
>Buying the news, unless you manage to do it in the first 5 seconds before anyone else has, is a bad idea.
Not really.
If the news is good enough, the price may never go as low as your buy-in, even if you do buy the middle of a green dildo after good news.

But anyway, that's not the point.
The point is that "sell the news" does not apply to Link, as all news from these past weeks was always massively bought.

>> No.14724520

>>14724343
you are a redit shitter. Im surprised no one has called you out for it yet

>> No.14724590

>>14724362
>muh semantics
Dude this is fucking embarrassing. Do you understand the phrase “sell the news” is different than “sell the news immediately otherwise even if you sell 60 seconds after the news is realeased you’re not selling the news. Ha I got you in a technicality I’m 13 by the way.”

>> No.14724616

>>14724590
This isn't semantics.
The news was always BOUGHT.

Stop trying to shoehorn the one stock saying you managed to remember into everything.

>> No.14724626

>>14724507
>The point is that "sell the news" does not apply to Link, as all news from these past weeks was always massively bought.
You noted yourself that the price is slowly bleeding at low volume even if the news get bought massively.
I'm just explaining why, repeatedly.
That's how speculative markets work.
We will most likely stabilise above $2 but day traders who bought at 1.50 and sold in the 3.5 to 5 range made a killing.
Until actual adoption (not just announcements, but network use and staking) LINK remains a speculative asset, subject to the most basic speculative asset rules.

>>14724520
dilate

>> No.14724645

>>14724626
>You noted yourself that the price is slowly bleeding at low volume even if the news get bought massively.
>I'm just explaining why, repeatedly.
Yes, but "sell the news" doesn't come into play.

>> No.14724649

>>14724616
The phrase is not meant to tell you what everyone in the market will do. Yes most people buy the news but how long did that last?

It is semantics because you can sell the news a few days afterwards but you’re a faggot retard waste of space so you can’t think critically

>> No.14724674

>>14724649
>The phrase is not meant to tell you what everyone in the market will do. Yes most people buy the news but how long did that last?
Stop squirming.

News comes + massive green candles follow = the news was bought.

End of story.
Anything that happens after that, comes after that.
"Profit taking", "selling high", "low-volume pullback", etc. whatever you want to call it, it IS NOT "selling the news".

>> No.14724691

>>14723707
The smart money bought the rumor and is still holding because the “news” that has been released is not the reason we bought in the first place. You haven’t seen anything yet anon...hope you didn’t release your ducks and your one chance at financial independence.

>> No.14724861

>>14724674
Dunno what to tell you.
Any trading advise is about reducing risk or increasing profit.
"Sell the news" is both.
It claims that a speculative asset's price will rise with news and bleed after them. Holding when there are no rumors is a risk. Selling at the height at the news mania is profit.
Hence, the advice is the way it is.
If you are arguing that selling the news is not the reason for the bleedout, well, yes. Duh. The market doesn't know how to trade, doesn't manage risk, doesn't take profit. And the market doesn't follow advice.
The reason for the bleedout is that LINK is a speculative asset that had a bunch of good news.
Selling the news is a way to profit and not be left holding bags. It's a rule followed by a small fraction of traders.

>> No.14724930

>>14723503
if the news are bought by special interests to spam the idea that "the world isnt going to be the same way it used to be no no no" but its actually just a json parser ETH price checker fetched by a centralized network of oracles, yes it can go into a death spiral. what a surprise

>> No.14724943

>>14724861
>"Sell the news" is both.
Stop being this retarded.
The news was bought, every time.

>> No.14724987

Link just got overpriced. September will probably push the price up again, but until we get a major announcement, or actual adoption link is just going to pump and dump.

>> No.14725003

>>14724930
not to mention that the devs are literally exit scamming by cashing out 700k links every week or so
>b-b-but they need funding
$32 million dollars in ETH@300USD that mooned to 1200USD and you find they need funding after 2 years? if they need funding then they are mismanaging the funds.

>> No.14725006

>>14724987
>Link just got overpriced
Compared to what?

>> No.14725016

It is going back to $2. Buy then brainlet.

>> No.14725063

>>14724943
>The news was bought, every time.
When there's buyers there's sellers.
People bought 0.17-1.00 and sold 1.00-5.00.
The news got bought and the news got sold.
There was also a lot of buying and selling based on charts instead of rumors and news.
At the end of the day some are in the green, some are in the red and some are back in USD.

>> No.14725085

>>14725003
>$32 million dollars in ETH@300USD that mooned to 1200USD and you find they need funding after 2 years?
You retard, that 32MM USD they raised in ETH during the ICO was cashed out immediately.
Fucking lmao.

Also, see >>14723558
Try to hide your newness better.

>> No.14725096

>>14725063
>When there's buyers there's sellers.
omfg stop being retarded you moron.

Just because SOME people sold, doesn't mean there weren't massive green candles in response to the news.
The news was bought.
Period.

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>>14725003
> what a scam, $32 mil would cover the operating costs of a top tier dev team + support staff trying to solve the oracle problem without a revenue stream for 2 years
> pffft WHY WOULD THEY CASH OUT when they're actively expanding their team to meet demand?

>> No.14725146

Do you think we can dump down to <0.19 because I have exactly 1,900 in my bank account?

>> No.14725184

>>14723682
Yeah that whole ‘bye’ thing came off as really flamingly homosexual

>> No.14725226

>>14725096
Thanks for the trolling but it's getting boring now. We've all seen that greentext, you're not fooling anyone.

>> No.14725234

>>14724861
>Selling at the height at the news mania is profit.

yeah, you just never know when that is until after the fact you fucking moron

>> No.14725256

>>14723503
Guwys! hodll! it'll be $1000 EOY they're not dumping they just need $32 million to pay their employees! It's not a scam! Just read the whitepaper! not alot in it so its quite a quick read anyway

LINK MARINES UNITE!

>> No.14725326

>>14725256
I’m accumulating in this dip while faggets like you have your thumb up your bum. I accumulated sub $1 while fags like you fingered your bhole and I’ll be accumulating at $10 while your fist is jammed up your bsnatch.

>> No.14725423

Does anyone remember when it touched 1.48 and then dumped down to .84 and got people to sell into the bottom?

That's what's happening now

>> No.14725428

>>14725226
>people buy the news
>"look people sold the news!"
This is you.

>> No.14725504

>>14725326
Okay lol upload some pics of the yacht party once you're all multi millionaires haha

>> No.14725585

>>14725504
Okay upload pics of you wrist deep

>> No.14725631

>>14725428
Anon, I...
Do you know what buy and sell orders are?
Have you actually ever traded any crypto on any exchange?
>>14725234
So you stagger your sell orders and if the mania doesn't reach your optimistic sell orders, you still sold the bulk of your stack around the top and then just dump the rest at whatever the price is when you can be bothered. Buy low, sell high. Simple as.

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14725648

hey faggots, its me. miss me? ahahahaha picc related. 2.20 usd end of this week.

>> No.14725741

>>14725631
wow i never realized it was so easy thank you anon

just sell the top guys

t. sold after google