Global Warming

[Anonymous No.14306463]

Is there any way to bet on global warming ? Very few people are taking it seriously, yet it's very real. How can I make money on that? What should I invest in? Ideas, etc?

[Anonymous No.14306485]

buy lifevest stocks

[Anonymous No.14306503]

>global

It's a plane

[Anonymous No.14306510]

>>14306463
wait for Augur v2 and create long term markets about temperature anomalies or sea level rise

[Anonymous No.14306512]

>>14306463
Merchandise for fridays for future protesters.
Give paid talks about how climate changes the world and what you can do to counter it. (target the already green and medium high wealthy people). Tell them to consume less plastic and bring toothpaste in a jar or some shit.

Make an app that tracks peoples movement via GPS and tell them what their co2 print would have been with walking,bike riding, car, train , bus, airplane. Then sell the data to advertisers.

I dont know there is plenty of ways to milk these idiots.

[Anonymous No.14306514]

>>14306463
short Florida beachfront real estate
no but srs, the seemingly ob. thing to do would be to pick somewhere with shit weather (like Bong) and work out how 'being warmer' would change that, maybe more tourism/vineyards ? etc. But irl, GW actually means 'more extreme' so, our Bong vineyards would get wrecked and tourists drowned anyway. If predictions true, guess areas with extremes anyway (Murican Tornado Belt, etc) prob totally fucked as well

[Anonymous No.14306519]

>>14306503
>plane

It's a plain

[Anonymous No.14306563]

Invest in weapons, remote land, fresh water, and canned food.
Humans are terrible at understanding how profoundly things can change in a small amount of time. In less than 100 years Berlin has gone from glorious height of the German nation, to bombed to hell, to postwar reconstruction and the Berlin wall, to anarchic wasteland, to bohemian paradise.
By the same token people think "Oh everything is fine it will continue to be fine" but we're just seeing the first cracks start to show. Mass extinction of insects which cause an extinction cascade up the food chain. Feedback loops like methane trapped in permafrost. Charts like pic related which any biztard should be able to understand. Reef death and the total collapse of edible fish stocks.
It could only be a couple of years for everything to go from "wew we are having a hot summer this year" to "the entire global food system has shut down, 90% of the world can't be fed, there are now a billion climate refugees, and nearly all the arable land has been rendered sterile."
Get your fucking ducks in a row and get an escape zone far, far away from civilisation, while you still can.

[Anonymous No.14306564]

buy land in areas that will become habitable when the ice caps melt, like lots of places in northern canada will be commercial hubs in 40 years

[Anonymous No.14306597]

>>14306564
>northern canada
good fucking call actually.
the residents of Michigan will probably invade at some point to obtain drinkable water tho

[Anonymous No.14306603]

>>14306463
CO2 tax scam

[Anonymous No.14306616]

>>14306463
Live in the first world, preferably up north. US doesn't count.

[Anonymous No.14306629]

>>14306519
It's plane

[Anonymous No.14306677]

>>14306463
You must be burger OP
Everyone else takes global warming very seriously

[Anonymous No.14306697]

>>14306677
You must be Pajeet, senpai. Everyone else speaks English correctly.

[Anonymous No.14306704]

>>14306677
that's what redditor's unironically belief

[Anonymous No.14306705]

>>14306463

Do you mean global cooling?

[Anonymous No.14306706]

>>14306564
>buy land in areas that will become habitable when the ice caps melt

I heard that gw makes hot places hotter and cold places colder. It doesn't make places with mild temp. more attractive to live.

[Anonymous No.14306716]

>>14306697
Krishna

[Anonymous No.14306732]

>>14306603

[Anonymous No.14306736]

>>14306706
the chart pretty much says everything is getting hotter except a few parts in the ocean
invest in boats

[Anonymous No.14306743]

>>14306563
you realize our planet has been warmer before? or that all the co2 from oil and coal has been in the air before? stop falling for lunatic leftist paranoia.

[Anonymous No.14306756]

>>14306743
You realise that our planet has never had 8 billion unsustainably resource consuming humans on it ever before, right?

[Anonymous No.14306782]

>>14306736

Yeah but the storms (currents?) prevent hot air from warming certain areas making them even colder.

>>14306743

Emission levels were higher in the past but the absorption was adequate. Nowadays it's becoming more and more unbalanced.

[Anonymous No.14306783]

>>14306463
climate shills.. I don't know.. by climate coin or something.

[Anonymous No.14306803]

>>14306463

Here in EE we're having droughts more often than ever. Thinking about investing in water somehow.

[Anonymous No.14306807]

>>14306756
so what? you want to murder them now? is that your goal? do you realise that more people means more wealth? because more creativity and more work being done? just because you can't think of a solution doesn't mean no one does. or do you still hold on to the belief that london will drown in horse manure by the year 1985? fucking dooms-day cultists. why don't you just off yourself if you think the future looks so bleak.

[Anonymous No.14306814]

>>14306463
Stack up on the water suppliers.

[Anonymous No.14306823]

>>14306743
lmao the absolute state of the retards here is unbelievable

of course that CO2 has been in the air before, but it's been accumulating in earth's crust via decomposition and chemical processes over millions of years and we're releasing it within only a few decades

surely this won't have any effect right? rofl

[Anonymous No.14306846]

Someone redpill me on Climate Change. I feel like it is just some Jewish scheme to control global energy policy but I really have no fucking clue.

[Anonymous No.14306870]

>>14306463
What bugs me about the whole thing is that NWO elites openly announced they'd be using environmental problems to unite the people and seize power.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_First_Global_Revolution

and in general the politicians asking for more money and power to solve global warming are the same who brought us many of today's problems. It's probably not all made up but it's being abused.

You can buy remote land, but in times of crises you cannot expect any country to honor ownership, especially from foreigners. There's also too much unpredictability in general. So maybe make as much as you can using conventional means for now (crypto, etc.), then rebalance later.

[Anonymous No.14306883]

>>14306807
>do you realise that more people means more wealth?

Wealth that hasn't been distributed fairly for what, 20 years now?

>because more creativity and more work being done?

We still don't know how automation will change the economy by taking away so many jobs. Necessity may be the mother of inventions but only to a point. Displaced, starving masses won't come up with long term solutions.

[Anonymous No.14306899]

>>14306846
The red pill is that it's happening, emissions are still rising. Large amount of methane is being released from melting permafrost which is a much more powerful greenhouse gas in the short term.
The red pill is that we can't stop it, it's going to get much worse but we have some say about how bad it gets. But realistically we're looking toward the upper range of warming scenarios.

[Anonymous No.14306921]

I know it's real. Here in KY over the past several years I've noticed that the "Winter" months have changed from cold/snow/ice time of the year to just a few slightly cold days and very little snow. Now you can walk around outside in a damn T-shirt in January.

The overall temperature/seasons has turned into this; Heat and Rain. No fall and very little winter.

[Anonymous No.14306976]

>>14306846
There is no redpill, its ogre

https://m.timesofindia.com/city/chennai/why-chennais-water-crisis-should-worry-you/articleshow/69899842.cms

Pajeetland is without monsoons this year, ppl are literally without water. Kuwait might see temperetures above 62 degrees this summer, its already 55 there now.
Southern and central Europe will became Desert, everything around equater becames unhabittable

I think we might not make it in the end frens

[Anonymous No.14306990]

>>14306976

[Anonymous No.14307004]

>>14306976
Now the monsoons are failing and record temperatures in the subcontinent. Hundreds of millions live in the Ganges and Indus basins who rely on glacial run off, that will also fail at some point.

[Anonymous No.14307006]

>>14306846
Basically the goal is to consolidate all nations under common law + moral system in a world government akin to UN. This agenda is clearly stipulated in public documents released by the Club of Rome, which according to wiki consists of: "Club of Rome consists of current and former heads of state, UN bureaucrats, high-level politicians and government officials, diplomats, scientists, economists, and business leaders from around the globe."

as to how the scam is perpetuated? look at the last millenia of history and realize nothing fundemental has changed psychologically for mankind. And that there's a distinction between the kind of science that makes the circuits in your cell phone work and the kind of science that tries to predict the economy

[Anonymous No.14307020]

>Buy land in siberia

[Anonymous No.14307023]

>>14306976
>>14306990
Czech Map projection

[Anonymous No.14307049]

>>14306976
>>14307004
>>14306990

[Anonymous No.14307086]

>>14306976
without wishing to delve into cliches and all, however..

[Anonymous No.14307109]

>>14306846
Illuminati will have the whole planet and its monkey population controlled in the next 30 years and there is nothing you can do about it anymore because the train departed 20 years ago.

You happy with your red pill?

[Anonymous No.14307127]

Unironically: space travel.

[Anonymous No.14307129]

From what I've read looks like we'll be at around 4 degrees of warming by 2050 - 2055.

[Anonymous No.14307136]

>>14306463
>Positive investment opportunities are limited and oversubscribed at the moment. Just look at BYND.
>However, if you're looking for things to short, Insurance companies are already doing the research for you.
>Identify industries that are no longer insurable. Identify banks that are still providing them with loans. Identify CDOs with a high proportion of this kind of debt. Short these.

[Anonymous No.14307162]

>>14306563
Search global greening. You will find information on the NASA website

[Anonymous No.14307170]

>>14307109
Yes, confirms my suspicions. So the elites that polluted this country with their corporations will use the problem they created to demand more and more from the proles. God the future looks bleak.

[Anonymous No.14307184]

Climate change deniers here just prove how much people don't want to believe that it's real. You'd rather buy into some conspiracy about NWO/Jews/UN than accept what has been proven to be real so many times.

[Anonymous No.14307218]

>>14307184
Show me a single prediction for climate change that has been accurate. Like all the glaciers being melted in 10 years bullshit that happened through the 90s

[Anonymous No.14307226]

>>14307218
B...but

[Anonymous No.14307244]

>>14307218
Wrong preditions does not mean that it is not happening

Also. Just open your eyes. This summer is gonna rekt a lot of ppl

[Anonymous No.14307246]

>>14307170
no the elites that polluted the world by increasing its population to +8billion within 100 years.

[Anonymous No.14307253]

>>14306706
Yes, (((climate change))) makes everything worse. It's not warming, it's not cooling, it's literally the end of the world and if you don't start acting like a good goy it's going to be extra bad.

[Anonymous No.14307344]

>>14307218
The last five years have been the hottest five years on record. If you believe the skeptics, I don't know what to tell you. There's surely a bsv shill thread right now looking for people just like you.

[Anonymous No.14307391]

>>14306463
>Is there any way to bet on global warming ?
Just stick will crypto if you want to deal in manipulated markets!

[Anonymous No.14307506]

lol this shit wont effect me one bit and I dont care about any of the third world dum dums that dont get their precious rainys and die

[Anonymous No.14307612]

>>14307506
Though you'll suddenly be bothered when hundreds of millions of climate refugees turn up I expect.

[Anonymous No.14307703]

>>14306603
Yes, invest in CCX (Chicago Climate Exchange). Its primary investors are "Generational Investments" (which you may want to investigate their other investments, which are also good scams).
The basic concept of CCX is an exchange to match carbon credit seller and buyer. JPM has estimated that this is a 1.4T yearly market...so even if CCX is only earning .1% per transactions, there is lots of profit to be made for running a simple boutique exchange.
GI's primary shareholders are David Blood (ex-Goldman Sachs) and Al Gore. Good old Blood & Gore.

[Anonymous No.14307878]

>>14306463
In the big short movie the guy who predicted the 2008 crash, after making billions during that crash he quit investing in stocks and started trading investing in water or something.

Water is the answer.

[Anonymous No.14307910]

>>14306463
ON NO ONE WHOLE DEGREE IN 50 YEARS HOW EVER WILL WE SURVIVE AAAHHHHHH ITS LITERALLY HALF A DEGREE HOTTER IN CALIFORNIA NOW THAN IT WAS IN 1959 AAAGGGHHHHH

HALF. A. DEGREE.

[Anonymous No.14307933]

>>14307910
Vegetation will be affected big time and you are an idiot.

[Anonymous No.14307964]

>>14306463
https://www.savingthegrace.com/blog/2018/7/25/why-michael-burry-of-the-big-short-is-investing-in-water-put-your-money-where-the-water-is

[Anonymous No.14307982]

What is the solar minimum?

[Anonymous No.14308004]

Real talk, buy land in Greenland. Possibly icy land if it's even possible. People will move there in flocks as soon as it melts.

[Anonymous No.14308042]

>>14307933
explain. idiot.

[Anonymous No.14308069]

>>14306803
It won't stop raining in east usa

[Anonymous No.14308089]

>>14307933
AHHHHH I KNOW RIGHT ITS LITERALL 50% OF ONE WHOLE DEGREE HOTTER. AHHHHHH IF THIS CARRIES ON THEN IN 200 YEARS IT MIGHT BE SLIGHTLY NOTICEABLE ON A COLD DAY WITHOUT A JACKET AAAHHHHHH. AHHHHHH I AM FREAKING OUT.

AAAHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.14308113]

>>14308089
God you're a literal brainlet. Even just a few degrees more can radically change an ecosystem.

[Anonymous No.14308146]

>>14308113
Very true.

[Anonymous No.14308150]

>>14307910
California? - Isn't that the state that keeps catching on fire?

[Anonymous No.14308152]

>>14308069
too much rain = pay a carbon tax
not enough rain = pay a carbon tax
perfect rain = not perfect somewhere else = pay a carbon tax

[Anonymous No.14308165]

>>14308089
You realize this is on average, and the problem are the extreme peaks that cause this shift in averages?

I wish they had schools in america too

[Anonymous No.14308183]

>>14307184
>implying it isn't kikes

[Anonymous No.14308241]

>>14307218
This. I used to drink the koolaid, I watched Al Gore's movie, seemed like serious business. None of the shit they said would happen within 10 years happened. They are still going on about how the whole world will end in just 10 more years. The solution? Taxes out the ass for the west, 3 billion in china and india can do whatever the fuck they want. Maybe it's a real problem, but it been hijacked by chicken littles and tax-and-spend politicians. Now, I don't think anything caused by climate change is worse than what the politicians will cause fighting it.

[Anonymous No.14308248]

>>14308165

>mfw its discovered that the sensation of 'getting hotter' is perfectly correlated to obesity epidemic.
>mfw fat-asses under 80lb fat blankets concoct elaborate theory that earth is ending to explain why they sweat walking up the stairs.

[Anonymous No.14308251]

>>14308113
>>14308165
AHHHHHH ZERO POINT FIVE DEGREES. AAAAHHHHHHHHH. I SET MY THERMOSTAT UP AN EXTRA DEGREE BY ACCIDENT AND NOW MY SHOES ARE MELTING AND MY GOLDFISH EVAPORATED OH GOD I CANT STAND THIS ZERO POINT FIVE DEGREE INCREASE OH GOD ITS SO HOT AAAHHHHHHHHHHH LITERALLY HALF A DEGREE HOTTER AAAHHHHHGGGGGGG

[Anonymous No.14308265]

>>14308251
please call 911 right now and request emergency euthanasia

[Anonymous No.14308274]

>>14306705
are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.14308296]

>>14306846
You should formulate your beliefs based on facts, not on feeling.

[Anonymous No.14308300]

>>14308251
I feel pity for you.

[Anonymous No.14308321]

>>14306743

it boggles my mind that there are people this retarded out there

[Anonymous No.14308339]

>>14308265
I CANT CALL ANYONE MY PHONE HAS MELTED, LITERALLY MELTED AS THE AVERAGE TEMPERATURE OF MY APARTMENT HAS INCREASED HALF A FUCKING DEGREE OH GOT THE DOOR HANDLE HAS GOTTEN SO HOT ITS STARTED TO GLOW AND THE WALLS ARE SMOKING BECAUSE ITS NOW HALF A DEGREE HOTTER IN HERE THAN IT WAS HALF AN HOUR AGO AAAAHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.14308367]

>>14307982
Solar minimum is when the solar activity (sun spots) decreases to a minimum, slightly reducing the amount of solar power emitted. This occurs in roughly 11 year cycles.

There is also something called a 'grand solar minimum', where this 11 year cycle is disrupted by a much longer cycle. The last time this occurred was in the 17th century. A grand solar minimum would slightly decrease the temperature of the planet, however the maximum cooling predicted is around 0.3C (significantly less than the warming predicted by climate change).

[Anonymous No.14308401]

>>14308367
AAAAHHHHH NOW ITS 0.3 DEGREES COLDER IN MY APARTMENT AND EVERHTHING IS COVERED IN ICE. I CANT FEEL MY FINGERS AS ITS LITERALLY 0.3. DEGREES COLDER AAGAGGGGGGGHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.14308461]

>>14307878
Underrated. More info on water investment needed

[Anonymous No.14308493]

>4.5 billion years old
>5 ice ages
>countless meteor showers
>muh plastic bags and carbon
We have like 70 years of recorded weather and probably 30 of that is accurate. That isn't enough to predict or conclude anything. The solar cycle is 11 years long and a single flare from the sun can change the weather dramatically for weeks. You summfag redditors are dumb as fuck, glad you are here to buy my bags though.

[Anonymous No.14308513]

>>14306463
Just invest in the dumb fuck carbon tax market like all the other rich faggot elitists are doing, you ain't gonna stop the climate from changing. This is way bigger than us pig-monkey ants living on the surface.

[Anonymous No.14308527]

>>14308461
well...these investments were the rage during the obama globalhomo era......nestle was buying up lots of the fresh water production for pennies on the dollar.
the problem is these investments require all sorts of laws to effectively enforce their profit, which is why you started seeing laws being passed in CA like "setting up a barrel on your property to collect rain is illegal"
In places like north america, fresh water is never going to really be an issue. Frankly who cares about places like Africa, etc? How could you even securitize your investment?

[Anonymous No.14308581]

>>14308527
>>14308513

https://www.savingthegrace.com/blog/2018/7/25/why-michael-burry-of-the-big-short-is-investing-in-water-put-your-money-where-the-water-is

[Anonymous No.14308587]

>>14308493
This, honestly. Climate's gonna change and do whatever it wants. The people at the top probably already realized this and are doing exactly what OP is thinking; cashing in on idiots.

Unfortunately, that also means involuntarily turning everyone into an 'idiot' through carbon tax laws. There will be a day when they propose a carbon footprint tax and force everyone to pay in for the air they breathe, despite the fact that it doesn't do fuck all to "save the environment". It'll just go to line some politician's pockets while they're probably exempt from the same carbon footprint law they force on everyone else.

[Anonymous No.14308665]

>>14307933
>Vegetation will be affected big time
Yeah with all that extra CO2 plants are loving it and growing better than ever (besides those times there was even more CO2)

[Anonymous No.14308687]

>>14308581
This doesn't require too much. They're already fucking up Cali's water laws to essentially secure a monopoly on almond production. They don't really need much else at this point, just use 'climate change' to enact some weird, fucky laws and secure access to a market nobody else will be able to compete in.

It's smart, even if it's incredibly underhanded and dishonest.

[Anonymous No.14308764]

>>14307612

AR15s will be out at that point. No more white altruism if we get cornered with nowhere to run. That will be the day if the rope.

[Anonymous No.14308820]

>>14307612
>climate refugees
If the climate is going to change dramatically, giving Al Gore money to turn down the thermostat isn't gonna solve any fucking problems, dude. The sun's doing this to us, not CO2.

[Anonymous No.14308838]

>>14308820
Why do you think it's the sun? Did you not read my previous post?

[Anonymous No.14308875]

>>14306463
its just a stupid hype - the media, leftists,women and children circlejerk each other for. Nothing will eventually happen, we have too little impact anyway.

[Anonymous No.14308908]

[Anonymous No.14308911]

>>14306514
>GW actually means 'more extreme

This is a meme. There is absolutely no logic nor evidence behind this claim. None-at-all. There wasn't "more extreme" weather back when the globe was 5-10 degrees warmer than now. Meaning back when we weren't in an ice age.

[Anonymous No.14308913]

If you think of the human hivemind as a sort of meta-intellect then the conservative part is the part that literally cannot compute the behavioral changes required by the reality of a changing climate. It requires a certain conceptual flexibility and imaginative capacity which is, among other things, a product of intelligence.
So don't get into too much of a rage when you run into the obstinate shitheadedness of conservatives on this subject, because it is literally too difficult for their brains to process. It would be like getting angry because you can't play GTAV on a Nokia 3310. It's simply computationally impossible.

[Anonymous No.14308915]

>>14306743
>all the co2 from oil and coal has been in the air before

lol...

LOL!

For starters, think about the time frame anon, the time frame. Just for starters.

[Anonymous No.14308941]

>>14306563
>Feedback loops like methane trapped in permafrost

Then why wasn't the earth an inferno back when that methane was not trapped in perma-frost and was in the air?

In reality nothing will change. You doomsayers are always wrong, always.

[Anonymous No.14308982]

>>14306899

Truth: Nothing will happen, just like nothing ever happens with these motherfucking doomsayers.

[Anonymous No.14308994]

>>14306883
>Wealth that hasn't been distributed fairly

LOL you communist faggot.

[Anonymous No.14309015]

>>14306743
its dumb fucks like you that make preventing climate extinction so improbable.

[Anonymous No.14309016]

>>14307049

More baseless predictions that will never come true.

[Anonymous No.14309018]

>>14308994
nothing wrong with communism. The problem is in how it has been implemented in the past. It could work now thanks to modern technology.

[Anonymous No.14309021]

>>14308913
>t. big boy

[Anonymous No.14309031]

>>14306463
>make post assuming gullible warming is legitimate
a thread died for this

[Anonymous No.14309038]

>>14306846

It's a fucking certainty that it's real and humans are causing it. Doubting it is the same as doubting that smoking kills, evolution is true etc.

As for impacts, it's harder to say, but currently it's happening at a rate quicker than the predictions have said. We're talking most of the middle east, parts of africa uninhabitable because of heat. Bangledesh covered by the ocean, possibly India affected by lack of water, possibly brazil affected by loss of water especially if they cut down the rainforest. So you know that refugee crisis that you've been hearing about lately? Multiply that by 1000.

My personal opinion is that unless we crack cheap energy to power CO2 removal from the atmosphere, modern civilisation is finished.

[Anonymous No.14309040]

>>14307244
>Wrong preditions does not mean that it is not happening

Yes it pretty much does. You can't keep crying the wolf and expect people to believe you.

[Anonymous No.14309067]

>>14308838

Because the warming has always preceded the rise in CO2 levels, not the other way around. Thats why.

[Anonymous No.14309070]

>>14306463
Water ETF

[Anonymous No.14309071]

>>14309040
lmao, in that exact analogy you use, the false predictions eventually DID end up happening retard....

[Anonymous No.14309074]

>>14309018
>nothing wrong with communism
that's a yikes from me dawg

[Anonymous No.14309090]

>>14309038
Where are you living? Do you have a place in the country already set up? As soon as link moons that's what I'm going to out profits into, but unsure where in EU to go (got UK & EU passport)

[Anonymous No.14309094]

>>14306463
invest in paper straws

[Anonymous No.14309099]

>>14309067
Okay then so what has caused the warming so far? Because it's not the sun (that has been debunked). Even a grand solar minimum would only account for a cooling of 0.3C.

[Anonymous No.14309101]

>>14309038

>Seriously thinks that CO2 is the driving force in climate change

anon... I

[Anonymous No.14309113]

>>14309074
sorry i was being ironical.

[Anonymous No.14309120]

>>14306743
Holy fucking brainlet

[Anonymous No.14309124]

>>14306846
Data supports human contribution to global average temperature rises but alarmists put too much stock in their projections. That’s two different kinds of data, one more reliable than the other. Local Weather is hard enough to predict much less global climate patterns

[Anonymous No.14309135]

>>14309099

> Because it's not the sun (that has been debunked)

The same thing that caused the warming multiple times before during this last ice age of course.

[Anonymous No.14309136]

>>14309124
Global climate patterns are much easier to predict than local weather patterns.

[Anonymous No.14309146]

>>14309136

HAHHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA

WEWE LAD!

Phew! You must be getting some of that 472 billion dollars that go in to this shit a year.

[Anonymous No.14309151]

>>14309038
>happening faster (present tense)
>examples: all future tense
>in other words, our doomsday we've been predicting for 20 years is totally happening right now, just wait until they evacuate the middle east.

[Anonymous No.14309163]

>>14309136
Yeah, especially the farther out the prediction is.

[Anonymous No.14309174]

>>14309135
That is related to the tilt of earths orbit, not the sun directly. It should be obvious why CO2 lags temperature in that instance.

It's important to understand that CO2 is not directly responsible for the predicted warming. CO2 alone only accounts for a small warming. However this warming triggers a positive feedback loop with various systems (the primary one being increased water vapour). As the planet warms, permafrost melts releasing more CO2 (hence why CO2 lags temperature in the past).

What humans are doing is quite different to past events, since we are pumping CO2 into the atmosphere before any major warming, but it will have the same effect.

[Anonymous No.14309208]

>>14309136
I can prove that you are wrong. The proof is the letter "S"
Climate science is awash with many "models" instead of "a model"
If global climate was predictable there would be a single provable model, however you cant

No other hard science has this fundamental problem...only your quasi-religious "man hurt mother earth / original sin" garbage.

[Anonymous No.14309270]

>>14309208
All hard sciences employ the use of various models and approximations for different applications. Almost no problem can be solved exactly.

Also you seem misinformed on how science works. No model can be 'proven', in the sense that no matter how many predictions match with experiment, you can never be sure the next one won't contradict the prediction.

[Anonymous No.14309338]

Easy.

Buy cheap ass land in Alaska or Siberia, Canada. Just somewhere cold and cheap. Will be worth shitloads in the future. It's a super long position tho.

[Anonymous No.14309348]

>>14309270
>, you can never be sure the next one won't contradict the prediction
then your model doesn't work

Ok non-science brainlet.
There is a single accepted model for "gravitational acceleration of mass near earth surface" which is g = 9.807 m/s2
This has predictive power and there arent 20 different competing "models" only one.

[Anonymous No.14309388]

>>14306463
>Very few people are taking it seriously, yet it's very real.

[Anonymous No.14309418]

>>14309348
That's not a model, that's a theory. Big difference.

[Anonymous No.14309432]

>>14309348
That's cute, you must have only gone through Physics 101? There are loads of corrective factors depending where on the earth's surface you are, among other things. The choice in corrective factors is the discrepancy between models.

[Anonymous No.14309463]

>>14309418
heh...so then why would we trust climate science which is barely at conjecture stage?

[Anonymous No.14309541]

>>14309463
Think of it this way. At a fine grain level, all of earths climate obeys simple classical laws. However, everything is so interconnected, to create a large scale 'model', you need to account for an obscene amount of variables. Since it's intractable to consider EVERYTHING, you make certain approximations/simplifications by discarding stuff that shouldn't matter too much.

Actually you start of making a lot of approximations, and gradually you add in additional complications over time (hence why the predictions get better as the model improves). If the model converges, that's good.

It's not like we can come up with a 'general theory of relativity' type theory to perfectly explain earths climate. That's not how this works.

[Anonymous No.14309606]

>>14306743

>co2 from oil and coal has been in the air before

What if I say that no?

It's kinda geology conspiracy theory, but I trust it.

The thing is, that inside Earth is not just an iron core. It's a silicium hydrogen saturated core wich under the extreme pressure turns into a special state of matter called "metal hydride". It's contains an extreme amount of hydrogen literally dissolved into the metal, acting like a hydrogen accumulator.

The trick is, that such a battery is stable only under the extreme pressure: when pressure lowers, the hydrogen releases and goes all the way up to space. But during that way it reacts with any carbon it meets. Chalk, limestone and rarely organic - all reacts with the released hydrogen and turns into oil or methane.

Just do the math. Methane (CH4) has 4 H atoms per 1 carbon. Free hydrogen is extremely light element and it evaporates into space really fast. Where one can get such amount of hydrogen to suchurate all those carbon?

Also, there is a phenomenon that oil and gas are not totally non-renewable. There are a lot of stories that abandoned deposit starts to seep again when the time passes. It's impossible under the orthodox geology and can only be explained by hydrogen influx going from the inside and carbon hydrogenation.

There are some reports from Hawaii that people saw huge surges of flaming hydrogen.

It's a really interesting and backed up theory that explains a lot in geology and has incredibly intriguing consequences like Expanding Earth theory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJfBSc6e7QQ

The bottom line regarding to the thread, that no, the carbon that we release when burn oil/methane, is mostly new to the atmosphere due to its abiogenetic nature.

[Anonymous No.14309615]

>>14309541
>At a fine grain level, all of earths climate obeys simple classical laws

I don't disagree. At the fine grained much of it is nearly quantum level uncertainty literally....a gamma ray burst from space can affect cloud formation, which then creates a "weather pattern". Its the old "a butterfly flaps its wings in china and causes it to rain in florida level of interconnection."

That being said. Why then should we try to tax society 30% on such obviously unknowable / unprovable psuedo-science? (aka who is profiting from this?)

[Anonymous No.14309678]

>>14309615
>At the fine grained much of it is nearly quantum level uncertainty literally....
Quantum effects are statistically washed out for these purposes, they can be treated purely classically.

And it's hardly psuedo-science. We are literally observing the planet warming, ice melting, sea levels rising etc.

[Anonymous No.14309729]

>>14309678
>planet warming, ice melting, sea levels rising
yet you have no predictive capability, nor any scientific proof that giving CCX $40 per carbon credit will have an effect on that...or how much it will even rise in next 10 yrs.
This is literal "pay your temple coin to placate mother earth or risk her wrath" level of scamming.

Now there are true reasons for supporting climate change taxes...mainly that it will help starve off large portions of your beloved niggers and gooks. But thats a different story.

[Anonymous No.14309730]

>>14309018
>it wasn't real communism, guys! it'll be different this time, bro, we wont starve again
>haha c'mon it'll be fun
Yeah fuck off, pinko

[Anonymous No.14309741]

>>14306463
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uRkUMlj3Os8
See this video and find a hardcore denialist to make that bet against you. If global warming would be fake they'd win every single time but in reality they would get asolutely rekt. The guy os a physicist and debunks a lot of shit ranging from delusional crowdfunded products to rabid tesla fanboyism

[Anonymous No.14309769]

>>14309729
We do have predictive capability, and it is improving constantly. The basic mechanisms are well understood (the most significant feedback systems etc.), the difficulty is in predicting exactly what the effects will be, but by common sense nothing good can come from rapidly teraforming the planet.

[Anonymous No.14309794]

>>14309769
>We do have predictive capability
now you're just resorting to lying

[Anonymous No.14309801]

>>14306697
more gooder*

fag

[Anonymous No.14310007]

>>14309741
>THUNDERF00T!!!

[Anonymous No.14310077]

>>14309794
Even putting this aside, we understand enough to know that pumping Co2 into the atmosphere will warm the planet. It's just simple conservation of energy. You don't think we should just continue, business are usual, until we 'perfectly' understand every detail right? There's a popular phrase for this mentality.... the dumbest experiment ever conducted.

[Anonymous No.14310093]

Maybe if they mass sterilized third worlders to match the negative growth rate first worlders already have and they stopped importing this surplus of retards to boost their own declining populations, they would accomplish much more than with the idiotic measures they are trying to push.
>b-but muh more people bring more weath and innovation
Look you fucking retards no amount of magic science wishing (where is cold fusion by the way? 10 years ago it was "almost done") will solve waste disposal problems, water problems (desalinizing produces horribly toxic waste by the way) and energy problems.
Get it through you thick skulls, retards. The only option is to tie the fucking foreskin of the animals that lack foresight enough to adjust naturally their birth rates.
Not sending them gibs so they die naturally more would be cheaper though.

[Anonymous No.14310148]

>>14309741
The hoax is that rising temperatures are going to murder your mother and you better pay your carbon tax, open your borders, and move into a cuck shed otherwise it will literally be another shoah. Not a chance given that rising temperatures could be fine or even better than currently.

[Anonymous No.14310191]

>>14309769
Dude the IPCC model that everyone feeds their data into only takes into account uv radiation and completely neglects all other wavelengths as well as incoming particles. For example, this model will show a cooling period during solar flares because uv radiation drops and it’s mainly x-rays hitting us. Does that make any sense? That the amount of solar energy entering our system is LOWER during a flare?

The models pick and choose what data to include in order to get the “right” answer, and none of the predictions are accurate.

I really can’t understand this blind faith in the scientific community, when science should be rational skeptical inquiry. It’s like the people who poo-poo anti-vaxxers as science denialists when that same medical community is telling you boys can be born in the wrong body so we have to cut their dicks off. You are all too credulous towards people who obviously have an agenda.

[Anonymous No.14310231]

Heyo, explain this one away, faggot asshole warmists
http://www.oism.org/pproject/

[Anonymous No.14310271]

>>14308248
Underrated

[Anonymous No.14310323]

>>14310191
This chart is from Exxon predicting temperature rise in the 1970s. Look how accurate it is so far. Things would be better if everyone stopped being so fucking dumb on climate change. Literal children understand what's happening.

[Anonymous No.14310343]

>>14310191
Variations in solar energy can be mostly ignored, as on average solar output is remarkable stable. As I previously said, even a grand solar minimum (responsible for a mini ice age in the 17th century) would barely make a dent.

[Anonymous No.14310363]

>>14310323
wow, even the estimated Co2 concentration by ~2020 is accurate.

[Anonymous No.14310379]

>>14310077
double dubs checked:
>know that pumping Co2 into the atmosphere will warm the planet
Sure, but you are extrapolating all sorts of shit. the concept that this will represent some "runaway feedback loop" is totally unsupported by any historical evidence...CO2 has been much higher in earths past.
Further, does Co2 make plants grow? Do plants consume Co2...seems like there are natural checks and balances in place.
>in b4 but this time its different!
no its not, Co2 / temperature has been much higher historically and its all still here.

[Anonymous No.14310398]

>>14309018
> Modern technology would essentially guarantee the dominance of the inevitable leading 'party' over the people in ways previous examples of communist regimes could only dream
Uhh yeah, we know, which is why we're against it..

[Anonymous No.14310426]

>>14309038
>evolution is real
Anon that was maybe believable when Darwin first hypothesized but even the geneticist are having to cope. Why do you think the US govt is starting to acknowledge UFOs? They know there's not enough time for us to evolve into humans and something had to of helped us along the way..

[Anonymous No.14310439]

>>14309018
>nothing wrong with communism

[Anonymous No.14310453]

>>14310379
Also, we're nowhere near saturation limit for CO2 in the air or water. Plants are easily able to keep up.

The only thing we're getting is more plant growth over time. The actual warming is coming from the sun hitting the oceans for longer amounts of time due to lack of cloud formation, which is also affected by solar radiation.

[Anonymous No.14310489]

>>14310379
I don't think anyone is saying that the warming will end all life on earth forever... even if the worst predicted scenario plays out, humans will survive no doubt, but there will be a lot of chaos/shit to deal with.

[Anonymous No.14310503]

>>14310398
>>14310439

see a later post, I said it ironically.

[Anonymous No.14310519]

>>14310453
If this is true we would expect atmospheric concentrations of Co2 to remain relatively unchanged.

[Anonymous No.14310569]

>>14308911
But yes there was.

[Anonymous No.14310601]

>>14310519
As they have

[Anonymous No.14310612]

>>14309606
Anywhere to get more info on the origins of petroleum?

[Anonymous No.14310676]

>>14310601
It has increased by approx 40% since the industrial revolution.

[Anonymous No.14310713]

>buy land where it rains 30 inches a year
>one liter is 60 cubic inches
>every two square inches of land is a liter of water
>70 liters a square foot
>40 000 square feet an acre
>2 800 000 liters an acre
>have 100 acres
>have 280 million liters of water a year
>only cost me 75k
>.02 of a cent per liter of water
going to start selling to dirty no waters for $1/L

[Anonymous No.14310736]

>>14310676
Prior to the revolution, it was several factors higher than it is now.

CO2 isn't really a good metric in trying to measure the warming of the Earth, especially since the heat capacity of CO2 is less than a tenth of water.

[Anonymous No.14310756]

>>14310453
If plants were easily able to take up the CO2 it wouldn't be increasing. There's more CO2 than can be sequestered by plants. Otherwise it wouldn't be increasing in the atmosphere.

Since we release billions of tons of it every year it's hardly surprising.

[Anonymous No.14310768]

>>14308401
This nigger is right. Cloud floating over or random breeze coming? Prepare the doomsday bunkers

[Anonymous No.14310806]

>>14310756
It's not increasing, and like I said, CO2 shouldn't be used to try and explain any "changes", especially since you guys can't decide if the Earth is warming or cooling, so any change is attributed to manmade CO2.

It's fucking retarded. You're being played like a damned fiddle.

[Anonymous No.14310846]

>>14308941
Because methane isn't an element you fool.

[Anonymous No.14310864]

>>14310736
lmao no it wasn't. It was relatively stable for around 10k years until humans.

[Anonymous No.14310883]

>>14310806
What is your degree? You seem to think you know a lot of shit.

[Anonymous No.14310886]

>>14308994
Nothing wrong with communism other than a lack of logic and common sense. Nothing wrong with communism except was corrupt and traumatic to 99% of the populous 10/10 times.
Communism worked for native americans but they had a very sheltered society.

[Anonymous No.14310922]

>>14310883
More than you, at least

[Anonymous No.14310946]

>>14310864
>It was relatively stable for around 10k years until humans.

[Anonymous No.14311023]

>>14308875
We, the species that built the pyramids, caused millions of extinctions, fought wars over religious beliefs, take drugs and drink fermented water instead of being productivity to deal with the troubles of our minds, have assassinated leaders in our communities, created bombs that wipe out cites..... have no impact....

[Anonymous No.14311039]

>>14310922
lmao you dumb motherfucker

[Anonymous No.14311146]

We'll, if it's real, sell any oceanfront properties. If the celebs aren't selling their mansions, they don't believe it.

Now I HAVE noticed GOP talking heads stopped denying. So what's the carbon neutral "solution" that GOP is on board for?

>Nuclear

GEN IV is meltdown proof and eats nuclear waste as fuel. Gates is in, politicians are in, and no one is bad-mouthing it. Not even the guy who made the Chernobyl series opposes nuclear.

Put yourself in the mind of a lib. Which is more dangerous? Nuclear or Climate change?
Now put you in the mind of a con. Which is more expensive? Crap and trade, or retrofitting and expanding our nuclear infrastructure?

[Anonymous No.14311162]

>>14306463
Invest in Rosatom

[Anonymous No.14311175]

>>14311146
Nuclear is great for a country like the US. The US won't let the developing world use nuclear though because they might create bombs on the side.

[Anonymous No.14311184]

Buy water

[Anonymous No.14311457]

>>14310323
I agree with temperature rising man, but please don't say something like "literal children understand", children believe pretty much anything you tell them that's silly

[Titus, slayer of the jews. No.14311556]

>>14306463
Its funny that this chart starts with the 50s because in the 40s there was a huge warm period which is comparable to our today temperatures.

[Titus, slayer of the jews. No.14311732]

>>14307049
>There are people on this board that believe that +2°C is bad. And they believe so called scientists that do not get the weather right for 2 weeks.
>There are people on this board who believe there is no 400ppm limit for CO2 which is already reached.
>There are people on this board who believe sea levels will raise when the north pole melts. even though its shelf ice. LOL
>There are people on this board who do not know that there was a warm period in middle age that was warmer then today, and that there was one summer that was 16 month long in the middle age. And that the classic time period was even hotter.
>There are people on this board thatDo not know that George Soros invested in refugee NGOs, fridays for future while also investing in coal and real estate.
>There are people on this board who do not know we are living on the greenest earth since centuries.
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth/
>there are people on this board who do not know the Ice layers on the south pole are getting thicker every month.
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/nasa-study-mass-gains-of-antarctic-ice-sheet-greater-than-losses

Geee... seems like i found out why you guys are still poor. You do not read the whitepapers!

[Anonymous No.14311819]

>>14306743
brainlet

[Anonymous No.14312186]

>>14311819
beep beep boop, npc-friend

[Anonymous No.14312247]

>>14307910
Anon earth is a closed loop, it's not supposed to increase in temperature AT ALL, if this was normal then millions of year's would bring us to an unlivable environment.

[Titus, slayer of the jews. No.14312256]

>>14311819
>>14311732
>>14311556
Just read this. And start reading the actual raw data and not media filtered bullshit.

[Anonymous No.14312320]

>>14306743

The real salient point people always miss about this is the crops. We have enough food reserves to last maybe a month in the case of a catastrophic crop failure. There are seven key harvest every year. Three major crop failures would be enough to trigger the starvation of 3 billion people. Whereas in the past humans could hunt their food.

[Anonymous No.14312326]

>>14308042
Earth is system where everything affects everything. If it goes out of balance it's a bad thing.

[Anonymous No.14312339]

>>14308241
That's coz they don't beleive we have our shit together. It's happening now and if you live in a zone of heavy change you know it because unbelievable shit is happening.

[Anonymous No.14312341]

Short Bitcoin. Bitcoin is the greater contributor to global warming right now. Bitcoin needs to die in order for us to all live. Bitcoin will be the death of the earth unless we destroy it.

[Anonymous No.14312346]

>>14312247
>it's not supposed to increase in temperature AT ALL

ever heard the word 'ice age'?

[Anonymous No.14312362]

>>14308248
This is pretty funny.

[Anonymous No.14312772]

>>14310806
Atmospheric CO2 is increasing. That's proven, it's one of the most basic things to understand about global warming.
The earth is warming. That's decided. It was decided decades ago and is what's happening. Also proven.
These are all very basic facts about global warming.

[Anonymous No.14313381]

>>14309174
>However this warming triggers a positive feedback loop with various systems

This is not possible in a stable system. Feedback loop would quickly make the planet uninhabitable in one way or another. There is absolutely no logic why the feedback loop would suddenly stop when the temperature achieves a certain level.

[Anonymous No.14313541]

>>14312772
BRAINLETISM. OF COURSE we learned in school the basic mechanism of global warming, what's being disputed is the fucking relevancy of it at all in terms of grand scale solar + planetary motions + whatever else is on a cycle.
HURR DURR.. DOW JONES RISE FOR 40 YEAR , ALWAYS RISE FOREVER BEACAUSE OF COMPUTER??? :)))))

[Anonymous No.14313571]

>>14306463
>warming

it's been 50 degrees all week here in bumfuck no where Nebraska

[Anonymous No.14313582]

>>14306463
Beachfront real estate still commands a premium.

Rich people are usually better informed have better judgement than hippies like you.

[Anonymous No.14313782]

>>14306463

Buy stocks from renewable to clima friendly energy deliverers like vestas wind energy or NextEra energies in the US

[Anonymous No.14313833]

>>14310569

Nah, no there wasn't. If that was the case they should have seen weather around -100 to +100 degrees. That is pure shit talking.