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I can't actually tell if this coin is a scam
The concept works but the man behind it and the pajeets. Speak otherwise. Why wouldnt people just buy Xmr?

>> No.14080854

>>14080848
>The concept works but the man behind it and the pajeets
>Why wouldnt people just buy Xmr?
imagine being this retarded

>> No.14080858

>>14080848
im not even convinced the concept is any better than bch

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>>14080854

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>>14080848

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>> No.14080965

Who was scammed by CSW or BSV? One real example please

>> No.14080966

>>14080848
>The concept works
no, storing trash data on the blockchain is retarded
there are no incentives for someone to pay high fees to store a song or a high res picture on it
enjoy permanent bloatware

>> No.14080979

>>14080854
It has no infrastructure and none of the first to market advantages that bitcoin core (and the superior Litecoin) have. It has no atms, it has no advanced options etc, it has no usage. Its a scam being bought into by a bunch of retards who didnt do enough research to find out the application he was granted didnt require an actual verification that hes not applying fraudulently and they just rubber stamp everything..

>> No.14081114

i just feel like its at a cheap price. and that its going to go up to like $1200 AUD by the end of the year. i dont care about whats behind it. im just here for the profit.

>> No.14081135

>>14080979
wow congrats youre even more stupid. keep holding charlie lees bags lmao

>> No.14081137

>>14081114
hello fellow ausfag

>> No.14081161

>>14081137

hello from 3802.

>> No.14081171

>>14081161
3350

>> No.14081272

>>14081135
refute what he said dumbfuck

>> No.14081546

>>14081272
nah I'd much rather see all you morons get rekt lmao

>> No.14081565
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>>14080848
https://www.coindesk.com/multiparty-computation-cryptocurrency-security
>zero-knowledge proofs
>keyless wallets
https://www.coindesk.com/g20-reaffirms-it-will-apply-expected-tough-new-fatf-rules-on-crypto

>> No.14081576

>>14081565
>https://www.coindesk.com/g20-reaffirms-it-will-apply-expected-tough-new-fatf-rules-on-crypto
tldr?

>> No.14081579

>>14080848
it's not a scam, sir, it's a very legit coin that will put the whole internet on the sidechain which is very needful by the masses, please buy now

>> No.14081583

>>14080858
Its the same concept as BCH.
- big blocks
- fast

Only difference is BSV wants to suck government cock while doing it

>> No.14081587

>>14081583
>and this is a good thing

>> No.14081605

>>14081583
There are also rumours that the BSV team doesn't understand what it's doing, they're just blindly following the orders of an insane and technically incompetent man.

>> No.14081639

>>14081605
The reluctance to innovate is retarded.
With avalanche and other updates BCH 0-conf tx will be so much more reliable than any other coin and you can spend it without revealing your stack to everybody. And its integrated in tons of payment gateways so you can already buy so many products online with it.

Meanwhile BSV insists v0.1 was perfect and privacy is for criminals

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>>14080979
>>14081272
bsv has actual usecases which are infinite and undiscovered yet - see unwriter and what that dude has been doing since bsv release
btc has digital meme gold and nothing else going for it except it's bloated value (which will come down substantially)
ltc is btc testnet so its equally as useless
nchain are aggressively expanding in all directions, my sister graduated with a phd recently and has been contacted by them even.

>> No.14082186

Xmr is centrally controlled by which makes it open to inflation and censorship.
BSV is decentralised and permissionless with a protocol that will be locked down to stop (((devs))) exerting control over the network.
It follows the original bitcoin design to the letter and continues the original chain, no other coin can claim these two properties. It's also the only coin capable of scaling up to meet global demand, again no other coin is doing this.
Don't give into all the social media based smears, do your own research from the source (nchain) and gauge it from there.

>> No.14082197

>>14081951
bsv is winning the hearts and minds of academia with its boundless opportunity for innovation. lets not forget all the patents

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>>14082186
BSV is a fork of the BCH ABC client with a bunch of tiny changes and one big caveat

>> No.14082307

>>14080848
>I can't actually tell if this coin is a scam
Then you could as well throw your money in the trash because it's what is going to happen no matter what, retardo

>> No.14082311

>>14082222
nice digits, but scaling testnet had days straight of 128mb blocks. 2gb coming next month

>> No.14082330

>>14082311
>but scaling testnet
Is not real life.

>2gb coming next month
Good luck. Keep in mind that the BSV team is led by an pretentious incompetent man who can't code.

>> No.14082333

>>14082197

>muh patents
>think patents mean anything
>patenting OP_RETURN

you dumb pajeet

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>>14080848
ima shoot you if you buy

>> No.14082437

>>14081583
not exactly the same
bch concept: let's use bitcoin as cash get blocks big enough that we never hit tx ceiling and keep fees reasonably low!
bsv concept: let's dump all garbage on a full retard size global blockchain that only cloud providers can host what could go wrong lol?!

>> No.14082503

>>14081639
>v0.1 was perfect and privacy is for criminals
This is true except you have no idea what privacy is. A little hint: Privacy is not the same as anonymity. Bitcoin has the former, but not the latter. You can learn more about this in the following articles:

https://craigwright.net/blog/bitcoin-blockchain-tech/privacy-versus-hypocrisy/
https://craigwright.net/blog/bitcoin-blockchain-tech/bitcoins-privacy-model/
https://craigwright.net/blog/bitcoin-blockchain-tech/we-dont-want-to-lead-with-anonymous/
https://craigwright.net/blog/bitcoin-blockchain-tech/profiting-from-privacy/
https://craigwright.net/blog/bitcoin-blockchain-tech/shades-of-black/

>> No.14082540

>>14080966
>there are no incentives for someone to pay high fees to store a song or a high res picture on it
So then how the fuck will it be bloated with trash data if no one will pay to put trash data on it moron?

>> No.14082552

>>14082540
Aussie man bad, pajeet

>> No.14082582

If anyone is genuinely interested in learning about BSV, here we have a brand new video by one of its two biggest devs, Steve Shadders: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p6Eb0JCz6E

He talks about the roadmap, how Bitcoin got from 1mb to 32mb to 128mb and how it will soon scale to multiple Gilgamegs and then Terramegs.

>> No.14082597

>>14080848
Xmr is a shitcoin

>> No.14082601

>>14082582
Even the devs in BSV are dressed like grown ups

>> No.14082670

>>14082503
>craigwright
Can't code, opinion discarded.

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>>14082222
Vitalik on BSV.

>> No.14082765

>>14082732
never liked pedoskelly much but i have to agree with him on the dumpster fire thing.

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>>14082732
Can't wait to see his COPE when all the legit erc20 tokens bail on his shitcoin for tokenized.

>> No.14082918

>>14080848
because all the government has to do to ban privacy coins is make a law. xmr will be delisted over night from every major exchange.

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>>14080966
Just read an article from CSW....in 2015 he managed with his australian research corp into high density storage to build a server rack that could hold 70PB (70.000 TB , 70Million GB). So his argument was that if you put 6 of them in a standard cabinet you could store data for a node that gets 1TB Blocks every 10minutes...like this dude is not so far off. He just scales so high its far off from normies levels. Pic attached

>> No.14082943

>>14082933
You could store that daa for a year. A terrabyte node would need one cabinet per year, thats quite small.

>> No.14082944

>>14082866
this I am so sick of all these retards, scammers and conmen running their mouth. I wanna see this entire space get nuked. getting filthy rich is more like an added bonus.

>> No.14082968

>>14082503
>Everybody you transact with knowing your balance is privacy.
>t. Craig

>Privacy is not the same as anonymity.
Perhaps. Everybody you transact with knowing your balance is not privacy either.

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>>14082933
>read an article from CSW...
>read an article from CSW...
>read an article from CSW...
Stop this NPC talk. CSW doesn't understand a shit. He's a PR talking head.

>> No.14082977

>>14082222
>muh consensus
>muh propagation
it's literally designed to be centralized and ran in a datacenter. bitcoins decentralized beginning was only meant to bootstrap it's adoption. satoshi even said himself. datacenters is where it would end up.

>> No.14082989

>>14082732
This stupid kid Vitalek knows literally nothing. ETH is shit tier tech and only afloat for dubious reasons

>> No.14082999

>>14082976
I recommend you checkout thecaseforbsv.com , there’s some background info/material on csw and his companies linked

>> No.14083014

>>14082989
At least he can code which is already one step above CSW

>> No.14083027

>>14080979
Keeps me bullish knowing this is the knowledge level of the typical anti BSV poster

>> No.14083061

>>14082976
lmao these people still don't get it. they keep talking about nodes and decentralization. my god. they are so far off base it's not even funny.

>> No.14083064

>>14082999
He just addresses BTC's potential future issues and then finishes it by saying "this all of course stands to question if BSV can deliver or if its just a pipedream that will never be realized ". Nothing groundbreaking, the same old story

>> No.14083076

>>14082976
Don't read Aussie man. Aussie man bad

>> No.14083095

>>14083061
decentralization is not the goal of crypto it's the way to achieve a trustless permissionless system.
you can shit on it all day but there is no other way known to us that works.

>> No.14083138
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The truth is, CSW is a marketer. He's good at producing catchy sales pitch, but bad at producing actual ideas.

>> No.14083153

CSW is a genius and a troll. His contemptuous personality is an intelligence test. He's doing everything he can to turn people off, because he knows it will succeed despite what you or anyone else thinks of him or those stinky pajeets

If you're so turned off by him that you ignore everything good about it, then you failed the intelligence test.

>> No.14083155

>>14083095
what you are describing is anarchy amd money laundering facilitation. this is not the future of crypto. government will shut you down with the stroke of a pen. decentralization is a myth anyway. if you take out enough nodes it's no longer decentralized. also when that happens how will you trust your precious anonymous anarchist money then? lol.

>> No.14083176

>>14083138
32 mbit or mbyte? seems like he just moved the goalpost cause nobody measures blocks in bits.

>> No.14083202

>>14083155
>what you are describing is anarchy amd money laundering facilitation.
no
>decentralization is a myth anyway.
you can't possibly be this retarded.

>> No.14083218

>>14083153
Interesting explanation, but no. CSW actually, genuinely doesn't understand half of the stuff he's spewing.

>> No.14083221

>>14080965
You obviously

>> No.14083237

>>14083221
kek

>> No.14083242

>>14083176
Csw is wrong it takes actually an hour 10 as the guy said. 56k is 56kbit that equal to ~7kb/s at best. So csw was 100% wrong on his claim there but a lot of people get that wrong, its not so uncommon. Its just a fucktard marketing jew trick that they named it 56k where in reality its 7k (kilobits vs kilobytes).

>> No.14083246

>>14083153
jesus this amount of cope... you need a shovel for that?

>> No.14083286

>>14083242
the problem is that the unit of measure is ambiguous MB is the unit for megabyte and Mb for megabit, k can mean 1000 anything but usually it's bits when comes to modems.

so there is no way to actually objectively tell who is right or wrong, but by usual convention craig is a fucking retard either by not knowing conventions or not knowing math. also personal experience you have to divide kbits with 10 not 8 in practice.

>> No.14083314

>>14083286
They sold 56kbits modems back in the 90ies, that was the fastest you could go without a digital line. So the reference is likely toward that.

>> No.14083334

>>14083314
i know i had one... way before i had internet. we played doom on that shit had to configure the modem at commands from a fucking paper manual.

>> No.14083346

>>14083153
The mouth breathers don't get every time he says something sensational like "Greg Maxwell is funding ISIS!" "I will sue you!" and "we will help the government", it gets crypto's twitter celebs angry and fired up and suddenly everyone is talking BSV and a few people with an open-mind will take the time to actually read up and listen to what Wright says and he has alot deeper stuff in his lectures than just a few inflammatory statements. It's genius marketing.

>> No.14083368

>>14082503
Nobody is buying shit if the seller is able to know you have a lot of money in your wallet. Too risky

>> No.14083395

>>14083346
>It's genius marketing.
it's literal poo marketing. about as genius as smearing poo on peoples cars and then offering them cleaning products. fucking pajeets!

>> No.14083405

>>14083395
It worked for Trump, how many faggots on twitter seethed and cursed him on twitter during the election and yet he won? No publicity is bad publicity.

>> No.14083434

>>14083405
sv has zero publicity aside from you pajeets nobody ever talks about it. all of my coworkers heard of bitcoin but couldn't fucking tell a fork from an other or list you 5 altcoins.

>> No.14083446

>>14083405
I believe the closest thing to Trump in crypto is McAffee.

>> No.14083475

>>14083434
>zero publicity
>every crypto celeb throthing at the mouth
Talking about normies is irrelevant, most normies still don't even know WTF Bitcoin is beyond "I heard it's a scam" and "it's internet money or something". However newbies who get on robin hood do see a cheaper Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin SV and that influences their buying decisions. Why buy a $8k Bitcoin when I can get something else called Bitcoin for $200-$300?

>> No.14083487

>>14082670
>>craigwright
>Can't code, opinion discarded.
wow, the brainwashing is strong in this one

>> No.14083511

>>14083475
>every crypto celeb
who the fuck do you think listens to them?

>> No.14083523

>>14083446
They are about to kill his ass to make room for the stiifler.

>> No.14083527

>>14083487
he is right tho satoshi was obviously an accomplished and prolific coder evident from his work and communications. this tech illiterate boomer faggot pretender is a joke.

>> No.14083566

>>14082968
Why do you try to argue that Bitcoin is not private when you don't know what you are talking about? You gives off a weird dishonest vibe. I gave many articles you can read to learn something, but it is obvious that you have already made up your mind and don't want to be confused with facts. Sad. Many such cases

>> No.14083571

>>14083511
Look, we can argue all day about who knows about what, but I know from experience the most hated coins go to the moon, the level of hatred for Ripple, Ethereum and Cash from these same twitter fags was all the same and look where they are now. Bear in mind alot of these same twitter fags who tell you not to buy BSV are secretly buying themselves, these people exist to manipulate the sheep and pump and dump on them, you don't think they'd be lying about their allegiances either?

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>>14082976
>Please goy, don't read anything from aussie man bad
Said the nervous blockstream kike for 100th time this day

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>>14083583
Said Creg's submissive femboy.

>> No.14083639

>>14083566
I can't detect an argument in your post.
Explain for a brainlet how it is private if I pay my friend back 5$ and he can see with 2 clicks that my spending wallet has 50$ and the savings wallet I funded it from has 10000$.
He will also see which exchanges I'm using and which addresses I spend to other than his.

Yes I will use a wallet with mnemonic and receive on different addresses but he will still be able to see part of my holdings and if I ever combine holding in the future he will see that as well.

Explain to brainlet how this can be considered private.

>> No.14083655

the only case you need to not trust blockstream is this. look at the facts.

did satoshi want bigger blocks? yes he did
did satoshi Invision centralized datacenters? yes he did.

btc is not what satoshi had in mind.

>> No.14083703

>>14083639
Add to this, If BSV succeeds it will also be public which on-chains apps I interact with and my salary and.........

>> No.14083707

BSV PAJEET SHILL
KYC WALLET KYC KYC
FEMBOY! SUBMISSIVE FEMBOY!
FRAUD FRAUD FRAUD FRAUD
BAD MAN, VERY BAD MAN, LIAR!!!!
FRAUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAA
DON'T BUY DON'T READ DON'T THINK
YOU IDIOT

>> No.14083728

>>14083639
If you don't know about the privacy aspect of bitcoin after 10 years, you are so far behind it hurts my heart to think about. What's worse is you try to fool others into thinking bitcoin is not private. I'm not here to hold your hand. I supplied you with many articles from Satoshi where you can learn about the subject. Don't expect people to spoonfeed you when you act like an obnoxious know it all guy that is clearly lacking in his knowledge

>> No.14083765

>>14083728
Nice argument. Make sure to only send BitCoin to people you trust 100% not to use a chainexplorer I guess.

>> No.14083989

>>14083728
it's private but not anonymous.

>> No.14084019

>>14083989
Its not even private. You outlaw shuffling means your wallet is public.
Craigs solution is you should split your coins on many different balances and this should be automated in wallets. Its a good idea to combine with proper shuffling but on its own its still not private. Chainanalysis can detect these patterns

>> No.14084112

>>14083368
it wont be used directly. bitcoin credit cards will become a thing. no one will see your stack.

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>>14081583
crypto needs to work fully within governments if we want a bitcoin-at-scale world.
you don't need to like it but it's a fact that amazon, best buy or walmart won't ever support a crypto deemed illegal by a government.
don't let your feelings block the path to the end goal.

also, BSV is dedicated to become as close to the original bitcoin as possible. so even if craig "wants to suck government cock" BCH or BTC really isn't much different.
when it comes down to it the biggest differences are that BTC wants to (pretend to) scale off-chain and BCH wants to be able to update the protocol even if it breaks old stuff.
meanwhile BSV takes the approach that bitcoin needs to be stable (not break old stuff) because we are running out of time and can't afford constant changes.

>> No.14084425

>>14084112
powered by chainlink.

>> No.14084440

>>14084421
So far BCH didnt break old stuff

>> No.14084642

>>14084421
>crypto needs to work fully within governments
no crypto doesn't need governments doesn't need central authority and doesn't need trust to function. that's the point you retarded boomers faggots! you just don't get it. there is nothing in sv that makes it any more legislation friendly than bitcoin anyhow. so it's a rather moot point.

governments care about only one thing having the entries and exits under surveillance. for now that means exchanges. end of story.

>> No.14084807

>>14084642
which of course means the next conflict zone will not be coins but dexes.

>> No.14084962

Imagine stealing someone's identity, then launching a fork of a fork of bitcoin and calling it your (stolen identity) "vision".
How sick in the head do you have to be.
And imagine the kind of groveling subhuman who promotes this conman and even buys this coin, knowing that every OG bitcoin whale has free stacks ready to dump when the price is right.

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>>14080858
BCH actually follows what Satoshi said about scaling. Satoshi said that BitCoin could scale as adoption grows. BSV is trying to force scaling in hopes that adoption will happen after that. BSV is backwards.

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>>14084962
those same whales have bch and btc so your argument is invalid
>>14085027
yes brainlet, with uncapped block size the scaling will happen with demand and the increase in usage
very low iq in here

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https://twitter.com/roryhighside/status/1138008235279994881?s=09
2nd coming of jesus confirmed

>> No.14085292

>>14083707
please buy. I need to dump these 200+ forked coins on someone lmfao.

>> No.14085303

>>14085195
too bad there is no demand for fake bitcoins

Bitcoin Cash (BCH)
BitcoinX (BCX)
ABitcoin (ABTC)
Bitcoin Hot (BTH)
Super Bitcoin (SBTC)
Bitcoin Platinum (BTP)
Bitcoin Oil (OBTC)
Bitcoin World (BTW)
Bitcoin Stake (BTCS)
Bitcoin Faith (BTF)
Lightning Bitcoin (LBTC)
Bitcoin Cash Plus (BCP)
Bitcoin Silver (BTCS)
Bitcoin Uranium (BUM)
Bitcoin Top (BTT)
Bitcoin Pizza (BPA)
Bitcoin File (BIFI)
Bitcoin God (GOD)
BitEthereum (BITE)
Bitcoin Smart (BCS)
Bitcoin Ore (BCO)
Bitvote (BTV)
Bitcoin Interest (BCI)
Bitcoin Rhodium (BTR)
Bitcoin Atom (BCA)
Bitcoin Private (BTCP)
Bitcoin Hush (BTCH)
Quantum Bitcoin (QBTC)
Bitcoin LITE (BTCL)
BitcoinClean
Bitcoin Lunar (BCL)
Bitcoin Prime
Anonymous Bitcoin (ANON)
Bitcoin ABC (ABC)
Bitcoin SV (BSV)

>> No.14085306

>>14085195
why did you post a selfie?

>> No.14085342

>>14085303
reminds me of all the altcoins created in 2012-13.
If litecoin is succeeding, SURELY feathercoin will work too! It's even lighter!

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>>14085234
Haha, that's epic. I wonder it it's connected to his dance the night before

>> No.14085418

>>14083153
dunning krueger

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Pls buy satoj sirs
The needful

>> No.14085593

>>14085343
imagine the unwriter even more autistic than this spastic cunt.

>> No.14085633

>>14085593
Oh man, I can't even begin to imagine. It's probably a reason for his anonymity

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>>14083368
>He doesn't know you can have multiple wallets

>> No.14085796

>>14085775
dumb frogposter
you just follow the trail of transactions

>> No.14085944

>>14083434
BSV is Bitcoin.

>> No.14086015

>>14085944
in your dreams only

>> No.14086076

If a coin was destined for success would you need street shutters shilling it?

>> No.14086147

>>14080979
What does not having ass to mouths have to do with anything

>> No.14086151

>>14084019
That's the whole point of Bitcoin. Fully traceable ledger. Where you go wrong is not understanding the pseudonymous nature of it. You can detect all these patterns through chain-analysis sure, but it requires you know the person behind an address first. If I take the example from here >>14083639 where a friend you paid $5 and now you know his entire history, that is a fallacious conclusion.

He doesn't know that the wallet that funded your wallet also belongs to you. It could be your dads wallet who gave you some bitcoin. It could be your employers wallet who gave you a salary. It could be a wallet from an app that made a payout. It could be anyone. When you go more than 1 step away, it becomes even more dubious. So unless you have investigative resources to unmask every wallet in the chain, you don't know who owns what, it could be anyone in a commercial chain. This is privacy.

>> No.14086181

>>14084440
They broke nakamoto consensus with centralized checkpointing. So a rogue developer can just smash shit like this into the code of the global financial system fucking with everyone's money... that is crazy and completely unacceptable when you think about it.

>> No.14086207
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>>14084440
incorrect, you have to rewrite old parsers to take into account the new ordering of transactions in blocks. originally in bitcoin tx A had to occur before tx B if B depends on A, no longer so in Bitcoin Cash. originally you could parse a block from first byte to last byte and halt when an unknown UTXO is encountered, no longer so in Bitcoin Cash.

>>14084642
for bitcoin-at-scale it must work within legal frameworks, if you don't get it you don't get it. the end goal is to replace fiat and bitcoin won't replace fiat if a government made it illegal. it'll keep existing and keep working in that country sure, but if that's your dream than it's different than mine.

>> No.14086214

>>14085796
Read here dumbo

>>14086151

>> No.14086244

>>14086207
>for bitcoin-at-scale it must work within legal frameworks
let the legal framework adopt to use and popular demand you fucking servile bootlicker!

>> No.14086248

>>14082330
It doesn't matter who it's lead by

>> No.14086271

>>14086244
>let the legal framework adopt to use and popular demand you fucking servile bootlicker!
What is this aggressiveness I see so often in core coiners? Someone care to explain?

>> No.14086276

>>14086207
oh and bitcoin won't replace fiat anyhow. that is simply not in the cards. bitcoin will be an alternative payment system for everyone the legal one let down. and in return it will keep the lawful money in check. because the moment the ones running the money press think about defecting they will realize there is a gun pointed at their temple.

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>>14086244
the world doesn't work like that.

>> No.14086293

>>14086271
called righteous wrath really
>>14086280
it will

>> No.14086295

>>14086276
then you don't want bitcoin-at-scale so then i know why you are arguing for a non-legal crypto

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>>14086293
maybe long after you and i are dead but who knows if there's even a need for an economy in the far future

>> No.14086365 [DELETED] 

>>14086295
i'm realistic 10% adoption mostly speculative in the west and an escape vehicle to everyone that their shitty government and central bank let down is the most realistic scenario. paying for coffee with bitcoin is cool as fuck but not the main point. you could pay for your coffee with gummy bears or food stamps or in sms... or whatever. inconsequential. bitcoin is very special in that you can take total control of your wealth and finances. it is also quiet unconscionable. you fags love the boot because you zoomers have this image in your head that it only steps on those that deserve it. if only you opened a history book you would know it's not that simple.

>> No.14086380

>>14086295
i'm realistic 10% adoption mostly speculative in the west and an escape vehicle to everyone that their shitty government and central bank let down is the most realistic scenario. paying for coffee with bitcoin is cool as fuck but not the main point. you could pay for your coffee with gummy bears or food stamps or in sms... or whatever. inconsequential. bitcoin is very special in that you can take total control of your wealth and finances. it is also quiet unconfiscateable. you fags love the boot because you zoomers have this image in your head that it only steps on those that deserve it. if only you opened a history book you would know it's not that simple.

>> No.14086381 [DELETED] 

>>14086271
They are kikes and a threat to their narrative is a direct threat to their power - this is why they lash out. You must understand that the key to them having global power is binding the masses in a form of mind and thought control matrix of strict ideological control. If they lose control of the narrative and truth is allowed to flourish, they will all end up in ovens before the end of the year. When they FUD and shill on boards like this to protect their systems, handlers, owners and financiers, they are indirectly fighting for the survival of their race.

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>>14085303
You forgot the one variation of Bitcoin that makes sense and works just like Bitcoin, but it's for Ethereum. No central owner that mined 1 million bitcoin, no ico, no pre-mine. Same type of hasing algorithm and can interact with smart contracts. A PoW token (the first ever) that is just as scarce as the original bitcoin. It's taking the standard of Bitcoin, but bringing it to a platform that inevitably will continue to scale. Rome wasn't built in a day and neither was the internet.

0xBTC is the best alternative to the original Bitcoin protocol. No worries of a 51% attack. This board will continue to strike it down like it's a bad idea. It's the best form of Bitcoin out there.

>> No.14086450

>>14086381
wrong it's just when people try to rape mutilate and twist out of shape everything crpyto is about while pushing their idiotic memery and retarded agenda it's not that hard to lose patience after a year or so of it.

>> No.14086467

>>14086442
crap i did forgot about that one...

>> No.14086580

>>14083571
It's b8 m8

>> No.14086602

>>14085234
This makes me more convinced that BSV is BitCoin and (less importantly) Craig is Satoj. Look at all these fucking Twitter morons memeing at burger moneyforehead. Watch the original video Ryan posted, he's very self aware.

The monetary gains are going to be enjoyable, but I can't wait to watch these retards eat crow.

>> No.14086765

>>14086181
BSV is entirely governed by nChain. BCH actually has two competing implementations: ABC and Bitcoin Unlimited. BSV revolves around the wishes of one man. BCH is actually focused on following the protocol as intended.

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>>14085195
BCH actually has an adjustable cap size. The ABC part stands for "Adjustable Block size Cap". BCH will scale along with demand. BSV is forcing huge empty blocks that they are now seeking to fill with other data.

>> No.14086896

>>14086878
BCH wants wormhole protocol and centralized checkpoints. theyre also dead fucking broke and begging for developer funds.

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>>14086765
Can you lie more please? BSV is locking the down the protocol so NOBODY can change it. In fact they are the only team in Bitcoin who does that.

>BCH is actually focused on following the protocol as intended.

Just a flat out lie. Then why did they add schnorr, CTOR adding dev checkpoints directly into the protocol and working on shit like Avalanche, stuff that has no fucking business being in the Bitcoin protocol? They are subversives, just like Blockstream.

>> No.14086942

>>14086896
>BCH is one team
>what is Bitcoin Unlimited
That's where you wrong, kiddo

>> No.14086965

>>14086931
>BSV is locking the down the protocol so NOBODY can change it.
nChain can and do change it on a whim. Besides, their "chief scientist" doesn't even understand the low level of it.

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>>14086965
False. Also their chief scientist is literally Satoshi Nakamoto, the person who invented Bitcoin to begin with.

>> No.14086987

>>14086896
>BCH wants wormhole protocol
frankly only ever talks about that is sv cucks, never heard of it from any cashie.
>>14086931
sv added useless new opcodes and cp to the mix too, so whatever. the thing the bch devs did with block compression is pretty damn awesome and i'm saying that as an avid btc supporter.

>> No.14087000

>>14086981
>I quote that guy's posts extensively, so I must be him
I'm afraid you don't understand how it works.

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>>14086981
bullshit

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>>14086987
>avid btc supporter

You might as well have told me you are brain damaged, but thanks for confirming that.

>> No.14087028

>https://coingeek.com/ira-kleiman-unable-to-prove-anything-except-dr-craig-wright-is-satoshi/
OH NO NO NO

>> No.14087034

>>14086987
Just look at ABC git, Amaury will break malleabiöity with the next update because "payment channels" aka 2nd layer segwit shit

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>>14086878
http://archive.is/dEZ35
Those checkpoints just hinder attacks. Satoshi is the one that first added checkpoints. Congrats on being slow though, tranny faggot

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>>14087000
I understand exactly how it works. Craig Wright is Satoshi by law, and there is literally nothing you can do about it.

>> No.14087072

>>14087045
ABC cuck regretting the checkpoints on the same day they are implemented as he realized it no longer gives them a claim to being Bitcoin

https://twitter.com/bsmith12251960/status/1063277772792102912

>> No.14087083

>>14086271
They are under the illusion the adoption of crypto will be some violent revolution and overthrow of the system with economies collapsing and the dollar going to 0 overnight rather than a gradual transition like the rise of the internet. Forgive them they are still under the age of 25.

>> No.14087094

>>14087072
Wrong. Satoshi is the one who added the checkpoints you fucking retards.

>> No.14087133

>>14087020
well at least i used to be it's a clusterfuck now but it is the only fork that properly adheres to the nakamoto consensus.

>> No.14087156

>>14087034
malleability is not a good thing. it's not the end of the world but dealing with it opens up a lot of possibilities in smart contracts.

>> No.14087167

>>14087043
>Craig Wright is Satoshi by law
oh that is definitely not how it works also not true btw.

>> No.14087196

>>14087094
lmao satoshi added checkpoints when there was literally no economic activity thus no security on the chain. There was also no protocol contention.

ABC literally added checkpoints UNILATERALLY during a contentious fork to ensure that THEIR version was overriding any majority hash challenge aka nakamoto consensus.

You are dumb as fuck

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>>14087133
Too bad the BTC protocol is not Bitcoin no matter how much hash you have, it's just a blockstream mutant dev project. Bitcoin is a protocol defined in the white paper, and BTC is not that.

>> No.14087312

>>14087259
it's the only bitcoin there is

>> No.14087314

>>14087196
Well it stops hostile liars like calvin who wish to centralize it beyond recognition
>>14087259
lol I guess none of them follow the protocol then. LTC has won the hash war!

>> No.14087321

>>14081951
>- see unwriter and what that dude has been doing since bsv release
you mean the guy who coded a calendar?

>> No.14087334

>>14082186
>Xmr is centrally controlled by which makes it open to inflation and censorship.
????
by ____ what? who? I think your pasta is missing something there buddy

>> No.14087351

>>14087321
>what is bitbus
hahahaha oh boy all you corecucks gonna get rekt so hard.

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>>14087312
The Bitcoin protocol doesn't have segregated witness and RBF.

BTC is not Bitcoin sorry.

>> No.14087380

>>14080966
https://www.bitpaste.app/tx/7bd18d899224f858375cb676d6782fc06392179987a6dbba081b1dc50420693f

Yeah stuff like this will never work. Why would any writer, artist, etc. not publish all their content like this?

>> No.14087458

>>14087353
btc is literally bitcoin you nocoiner late adopter cuck.

>> No.14087474

>>14080848
>the concept works
>another useless shitfork
>concept

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>>14087458
Cope harder you ponzi bagholder.

>> No.14087499

>>14085593
Craig is unironically unwriter

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>>14086380
i'm not a zoomer and if you think BTC is more unconfiscateable than BSV think again. as i said before BTC/BSV/BCH is very similar and all three are just as much confiscateable as the other. if the government hands you a list of UTXOs that you as a miner cant put in a block then you follow that list. miners co-op to not split the network and governments co-op with lists because that's how the world works. sure the funds are only frozen but they are still confiscated (blacklisted). no it doesn't matter if some african is running a full node or mining with 1 found block per 5 years.

>> No.14087538

>>14087156
Breaking malleability means that a parasitic layer can be built on top of L1 that will suck all value into itself and eventually L1 can just be killed. Bitcoin was designed to be resilient, that's why malleability is a feature

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>>14087458
>btc is literally bitcoin you nocoiner late adopter cuck.
Fooled by a ticker. You can't be this retarded? Riiight?

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>>14087539

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>>14087587
Saved

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>>14087513
>then you follow that list
to be clear, the reason why you follow this list is because your mining operation isn't invisible. it exists in the real world where there are real people with real guns that will shut you down if you don't step in line. meanwhile you have spent years setting up your mining business and have expenses in your life, you won't put your ass on the line to protect mr terrorist or whatever the government claims is the reason why the UTXO is blacklisted. if they even bother giving a reason.

and if miners outside the countries that co-operate with the blacklist decide to not follow it they will split off from the network, either becoming the minority chain or isolating the rich countries that you want to use bitcoin because it puts txs into your blocks.

it's just a fact. BTC/BCH/BSV is equally vulnerable to government control. BSV seems to be the only one that gets it though and, surprise surprise, it's the one with craig wright.

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>>14087636
Why is his backhead so big?

>> No.14087794

>>14080848
BSV is the patrician coin of choice for everyone who just loves to pay taxes for roads and EBT and wars and shit

>> No.14087864

>>14087539
it's not just the ticker btc is bitcoin for 99.9% of mankind. the problem is not with them but the 500 cuckoos that violently pretend it ain't so.

>> No.14087902

>>14087513
bitcoin is the only trustless permissionless publicly auditable ledger that is secure. there is no other. unconfiscatable is just one very important property it shares with thousands of shitcoins.

>> No.14087956

>>14082601
>Wears suit
>Says fuck multiple times in presentation

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>>14087902
that has little to do with anything. hashpower can flow over any day, doesn't change anything. and that's not even what i'm saying here, i'm talking about confiscation/freezing via blacklists, not theft via 51% attacks

>> No.14088084

>>14087978
>hashpower can flow over any day
yeah how does that not terrify you shitless?

>> No.14088150

guys, what happens if bitcoin core just takes the things from bch and bsv that actually work and makes sense
both would be dead within weeks

>> No.14088201

>>14088150
that's the other thing cashies don't understand... don't think it would happen but it esily could, or a new fork from btc something taking code from everywhere and leaving all other forks in the dust.

because bitcoin is not just code and tech. it's motherfucking consensus. on every and all aspects the idea the code the implementation the chain the price the rules the services everything.

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>>14088084
the fact that it doesn't shows that the system works, miners are more incentivized to keep BCH and BSV alive as backups and all hashpower you spend on BCH/BSV means hashpower you don't spend on BTC. current hashrate on BCH/BSV is roughly the same as BTC's hashrate at the end of 2016, which is still enormous and carries just as big of a cost. you need to set up something worth carrying out the attack as well, nothing guaranteed that anything comes out of it. especially if it causes the BCH/BSV price to plummet, then you've REALLY burned a lot of money for nothing instead of just kept on mining on BTC.

>> No.14088318

>>14088254
dude the top 2 pools effortlessly 51ed bch which has 3x the hashrate sv has

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>>14088150
that's a legit fear but core/blockstream are doubling down. something they can't just copy is adoption and the longer they wait to pull their heads out of their asses the less of a reason there will be to stick to BTC the day they do snap out of the current 1 MB mentality. if BTC suddenly becomes exactly the same as BCH or BSV why not just use BCH or BSV that have a head start on adoption, utility and stuff built on top of it? even the most dens person have to wonder why it suddenly is ok to scale to 2 MB after all these years of anti big block propaganda. besides, you can't undo the damage SegWit has done. the block weight mess is there and if devs have to choose between BSV/BCH or "exactly the same + SegWit", then they will choose BSV/BCH.

>>14088318
url to read about it?

>> No.14088663

>>14080848
no segwit = asicboost = bitmain runs the show
it's whatever.

>> No.14088834

>>14080858
no checkpoint
works at scale

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>>14088318
url or it didnt happen

>> No.14089174

>>14089116
you been out of the loop? it was all anyone would talk about here a week or two ago

>> No.14089187

>>14087513
neither coins can be confiscated
you are delusional if you think a blacklist can work

>> No.14089204

>>14088201
Economic consensus. Very different than a popularity contest.

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>>14089174
yes. so how about that url? you make the claim, you provide the source. that's how it works, don't expect people to start googling for every wild claim thrown at them. i'm off to bed but will leave the thread open for tomorrow, if you can provide a source i will check it out to see if it was an actual 51% attack or just the regular claims.

>>14089187
of course it can work. and if it can't then sure, neither BSV nor BTC can be frozen.

>> No.14089252

>>14086151
>This is privacy.
To be so woefully unaware of what statistical analysis and simple logic can achieve ... Wow! Have you NEVER heard of Sherlock Homles? Sorry bud, but I just sold my 100k

>> No.14089256

>>14083346
praise kek

>> No.14089259

>>14089242
nobody tell him.

>> No.14089320

>>14089242
you seriously can't use fucking google? how fucking lazy you are?
https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-cash-miners-undo-attackers-transactions-with-51-attack
https://news.bitcoin.com/honest-nodes-spoiling-a-theft-attempt-is-not-a-51-attack-bch-devs-detail/
https://cryptoslate.com/bitcoin-cash-reportedly-suffered-51-attack-transactions-reversed/
i was watching a movie.

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>>14080921

>> No.14089357

>>14089242
it can't dude
have you ever heard of coin mixers?
neither BSV or BTC can be "blacklisted", only a complete idiot would deal with questionable stuff and not mix his transactions
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cryptocurrency+mixers

>> No.14089603

>>14080848
>why wouldn't people just buy terrorist coin

>> No.14089652

>>14080848
It’s a scam by fraudstus faketoshi faggot fem boy

>> No.14090027

>>14089652
please bitch it's dr noproof fraudstus

>> No.14090047

>>14087499
not possible unwriter actually codes also craig is an asshole but not autistic like a school bus of aspies high on cocaine.

>> No.14090901

>>14080848
I genuinely hope bsv succeeds.

10 mil eoy boys, lets go!