/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.13875081]

These edgy retards are holding the crypto market back. The sooner we rid of them the faster we can have mass adoption

[Anonymous No.13875134]

Yeah it's those fucking libertarians and ancaps, they're the ones with the real power here. Definitely NOT globalist shitstains who are directly, financially threatened by the potential of a decentralized currency.

[Anonymous No.13875147]

>>13875081
Nah it's Keynesian fags and socialists that want to control monetary supply that are destroying the space

[Anonymous No.13876030]

>>13875134
you dumbass don't seem to understand what libertarianism is. Libertarians want corporations to have 0 regulations and absolute control. Bankers and mastercard and all the largest corporations love libertarianism

[Anonymous No.13876047]

>>13875134
don't forget Soros

[Anonymous No.13876081]

>>13876030
Is that why they're spending millions of dollars on Ron Paul and the libertarian party and not Barrack Obama and John "Tumor Brain" McCain? Banks love big government and deficit spending and who better to back than people like George Bush and Hillary Clinton?

[Anonymous No.13876097]

>>13876081
the only reason they don't like rand and ron paul is because they are anti-war. The rest of their beliefs are 100% corporate approved

[Anonymous No.13876114]

>>13875081
no but faggots like OP are holding humanity back KYS faggot bitcoin will succeed with or without your cucked ass onboard

[Anonymous No.13876197]

>>13876030
Naivete. The post

[Anonymous No.13876205]

>>13876197
>no counter argument
t.30 iq ancaptard

[Anonymous No.13876260]

>>13876205
Well you didnt give an argument in the first place just straw manned libertarians.

[Anonymous No.13876285]

>>13876260
just because you don't like the argument doesn't mean its not an argument. Don't libertarians promote 0 regulations for corporations? aren't bankers and financiers and mastercard corporations? therefore, libertarians want bankers and financiers to become more powerful. You are too dumb to even make a counter argument

[Anonymous No.13876318]

>>13876285
Corporations are government entities that allow people not to suffer personal losses when a company loses value and have nothing to with libertarianism.

[Anonymous No.13876359]

it wasn't very libertarian like to bail out the banks and subsidize workers wage for corporations making billions of dollars in profit
it's almost like the free market would have fixed our problems

[Anonymous No.13876362]

>>13876030
No, it doesn't. Corporations wouldn't exist in a hardcore libertarian country as there wouldn't be trademark rights. Commerce would be done person to person with individual responsibility. Educate yourself before talking

[Anonymous No.13876374]

>>13876318
>Corporations are government entities
>Corporations wouldn't exist in libertarian country
imagine being THIS dumb

lolbercucks are so dumb they don't even understand how their ideology or even reality works

[Anonymous No.13876398]

>>13876362
there are two types of libertarians. The one kind are wealthy corporatists and the other one are edgy 12 year olds that are angry because their mom entered their room without permission. Guess which one are you

[Anonymous No.13876412]

fuck mass adoption
fuck your bags
fuck niggers
fuck kikes
and MOST OF ALL, fuck jannies
there's no point to crypto if normalfags like you don't lose their shirt

[Anonymous No.13876495]

>>13876398
Ad hominem. Cope harder, low IQ govcuck

[Anonymous No.13876516]

>>13876495
its ok seething lolbercuck, one day you will grow out of your teen loltard phase

[Anonymous No.13876526]

Daily reminder the reason you are poor is central banking and government intervention in the economy.

Daily reminder that socialists and corporatists are faggots.

[Anonymous No.13876540]

>>13876516
>>13876398
Imagine actually being a central banking bootlicking corporate whore.

Just IMAGINE.
Why are you even on this board?

[Anonymous No.13876554]

>>13876374
>>Corporations are government entities
>>Corporations wouldn't exist in libertarian country
>imagine being THIS dumb

The corporation is literally a statist creationist.

[Anonymous No.13876566]

>>13876285
>Don't libertarians promote 0 regulations for corporations?
No.
What kind of retarded strawman argument is this?
We simply want them to play by the rules everyone else has to.
We want to take away their statist monopolies.

[Anonymous No.13876581]

>>13876554
*creation

[Anonymous No.13876598]

>>13876566
>we
speak for yourself faggot. I want 0 regulations

[Anonymous No.13876607]

>>13876540
private banks hate the central bank. The central bank is the only institution that regulates commercial banks. Without the central bank, the private banks could have unlimited 0% fractional reserve banking because there would be no reserve requirement law, without the central bank, the private banks could charge any interest they want, they could use outright do usury of 100% interest rates and make you their eternal slave

>>13876566
>We simply want them to play by the rules everyone else has to
but libertarians are against regulation, therefore they are against rules.. do you even understand your ideology? I think you don't

[Anonymous No.13876612]

>he relies of the force of others to defend his property

absolutely cucked

[Anonymous No.13876622]

>>13876607
>% fractional reserve banking because there would be no reserve requirement law

who cares? just don't do business with an entity you don't trust you retarded cuck

[Anonymous No.13876632]

I want all that I have the power to conquer or death

[Anonymous No.13876637]

>>13876622
>just don't become a slave bro haha just run away

[Anonymous No.13876668]

>>13876637
>I don't want to be a slave therefore I need a master to protect me hurr durr

retard

[Anonymous No.13876701]

>>13876637
the government makes us all salves
you're naive to think they're working in their constituents interest
the central bank isn't even controlled by our government or regulations

when private banks act retarded they just get bailed out with out taxes instead of fail
the 250k FDIC insurance isn't real
people need to be knowledgeable about their finances or they won't have any
If you really think everything is fine with how the government and banks run things you're a total retard
these problems are not going to be fixed from within the corrupt system
less government is the only solution

[Anonymous No.13876707]

But OP, libertarians and ancaps are huge supporters of the illegal gambling industry. Aren't gambling and online casinos the key to mass adoption?

[Anonymous No.13876728]

>>13876668
>only the evil government can make you a slave. good and gentle corporations would never do that!

moron

>>13876701
both the government and corporations can make you a slave. the whole point is to have a balance, check and balances between them. This is why ancaptards are just as dumb as commies

[Anonymous No.13876762]

>>13876598
milton friedman was a keynesian-lite faggot
read mises nigga

>>13876607
>private banks hate the central bank.
LMAO
Why would they hate an organization that literally prints money out of thin air and gives it to them?
Are you truly this brainwashed?

>The central bank is the only institution that regulates commercial banks.
Holy shit you're brainwashed.
They "regulate" them by giving them free money?
The federal reserve was literally created by banking interests.

>Without the central bank, the private banks could have unlimited 0% fractional reserve banking
WRONG
Fractional reserve banking is a form of fraud and would be strictly illegal in a free market.

>but libertarians are against regulation
We're against government intervention outside of basic laws protecting life, liberty and property.

>therefore they are against rules
LOL No.
Why are you so dumb?
Do you just believe strawman arguments and memes about us?

Libertarians want courts, judges, contracts etc etc.
Why do you brainlets think libertarians want corporations to just kill and rob us blindly with zero reproductions?

[Anonymous No.13876772]

>>13876701
>when private banks act retarded they just get bailed out with out taxes instead of fail
THIS

Yet these fucking LEFTISTS and LIBERALS support this form of corporate fascism.

[Anonymous No.13876787]

>>13876728
>good and gentle corporations would never do that!
How can a business make me a slave?
I don't have to work for them.
I don't have to do business with them.
If they aggress against me it would be illegal in a free market.

[Anonymous No.13876803]

>>13876762
a really dumbass? why don't you open your own bank then, you will just get free printed money! In fact, why other corporations even exist? why don't they all become banks and get dem free printed money? I mean, its just free money right?

[Anonymous No.13876816]

>>13876728
> good and gentle corporations would never do that!

Oh no! I feel raped by them offering me goods and services that I can choose to buy! HOW EBIL!!! OH THE HUMANITY! ... you're a moron. move out of your mother's basement you loser.

[Jordan Belfort !!/mTXNhdlCsi No.13876817]

>>13876787
>illegal in a free market
By definition a free market means that is completely legal

[Anonymous No.13876825]

>>13876803
>why don't you open your own bank then
because
a) I don't give enough of a shit
b) Thanks to the government you love so much, it's almost impossible to do so without a fucking massive ton of capital and political connections
Thanks to your ideology, the banks have a monopoly.

>you will just get free printed money!
If I had a bank I literally would get free printed money. It would be "loaned" to me as virtually zero interest.

[Anonymous No.13876829]

>>13876787
why would it be illegal? if there is no government nothing is illegal

>>13876816
>oh no the evil government protects me from violence and fraud!! oh the humanity!!
grow up retard kiddo

[Anonymous No.13876831]

>>13876728
so it sounds like we both want an honest system
I just think we can't get there with a corrupt authority
99% of people are incapable of making financial regulatory decisions
I think if the free market allowed companies to fail and honest ones to succeed we would have a better idea on what works

I just can't see how the government's checks help
look at the bitlicense and other crypto bills that upper government officials and big exchanges pushed
this killed competition, secured profits for big players, and gave the author of bitlicense a lucrative job in the private sector as an advisor
what started with good intentions of a system of checks and balance made the situation a lot worse

[Anonymous No.13876840]

>>13876817
>By definition a free market means that is completely legal
No it's not you gigantic fucking moron.
The free market means the law protects life, liberty and property.

If someone aggresses against me, this is illegal and they will go to jail/get fined etc.

Do you even know what a free market is?

[Anonymous No.13876842]

>>13876762
>read mises nigga
read him yourself.

[Jordan Belfort !!/mTXNhdlCsi No.13876855]

>>13876825
That's not how it works anon
The money banks loan comes from checking and savings accounts along with other financial instruments and they do indeed pay interest on it

[Anonymous No.13876864]

>>13876829
>if there is no government
We don't support no government.
We want a government that enforces the laws.
This is what a free market is.

Also if you are talking about anarcho-capitalism, there IS law, it's called polycentric law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycentric_law

Read up what you're talking about before you spew your autism.

>>oh no the evil government protects me from violence and fraud!! oh the humanity!!
But they don't do that, they ENFORCE violence and fraud.

If they only protected me from violence and fraud we would have a free market by definition.
But I guess you don't want that since you're a cuck.

[Anonymous No.13876881]

>>13876829
> the evil government protects me

yeah, it doesn't. the so called safety offered by governments is in fact a barrier to obtaining wealth for the masses so that their rent-seeking cronies are safe from competition,

[Anonymous No.13876891]

>>13876855
>That's not how it works anon
That's exactly how it works.

>and they do indeed pay interest on it
An extremely small amount, it's basically nothing. They make PROFIT from this virtually free money away so essentially they get a fuckton of free money.

[Jordan Belfort !!/mTXNhdlCsi No.13876907]

>>13876840
>free market
>with government intervention
>free
In a free market all the anti-competitive practices that cause monopolies to form are completely allowed as is collusion and industry blackballing
Free =/= fair, you need reasonable regulations for fair otherwise there's literally nothing stopping companies like Facebook from just selling your SSN to credit card companies

[Anonymous No.13876916]

>>13876864
>We want a government that enforces the laws.

speak for yourself faggot.

[Anonymous No.13876924]

>>13876864
>>13876881
so why ancapism never existed anywhere? your dumb utopian dream literally can't exist. You might think on paper sounds good and everyone will be free but what will happen is that each corporation would become like a mini-government with their own private armies competing with each other while poorfags like you are in the middle. Ancaps and commies are literally just as dumb, their retarded utopian fantasy only works on paper but never actually works in real life

[Jordan Belfort !!/mTXNhdlCsi No.13876935]

>>13876891
>An extremely small amount
They pay market rates
>They make PROFIT
Duh, by charging more interest on what they loan out than on what they borrow. That is how ANY kind of business works, you sell for more than you buy.

[Anonymous No.13876953]

>>13876907
>>with government intervention
Holy shit you're an idiot.
When people speak of "government intervention".
They are speaking of intervention outside of the usual enforcement of contracts, property rights etc etc.

How fucking stupid are you that you don't know this?

>the anti-competitive practices that cause monopolies to form
Everyone knows these are a myth though.
inb4 muh standard oil and debeers bs

>reasonable regulations
These regulations just cause monopolies and corruption even if they are intended to be fair.

[Jordan Belfort !!/mTXNhdlCsi No.13876967]

>>13876864
>a government that enforces the laws.
>This is what a free market is.
Anon...if it isn't self-regulating it isn't a truly free market. A free market is literally defined by UNRESTRICTED competition between private business

[Anonymous No.13876975]

>>13876924
>so why ancapism never existed anywhere?
HHAHAHAHAHAHA
I'm not even an ancap but yes it actually did exist many places in history.
Medieval Iceland
Medieval Ireland
Many periods and areas of the american midwest in the 1700s and 1800s.
Neutral Moresnet

>what will happen is that each corporation would become like a mini-government with their own private armies competing with each other while poorfags like you are in the middle.
I'm not an ancap but ancaps have written books debunking this and the fact these places actually existed must tell you something.

>>13876935
>They pay market rates
Which is literally dictated by the central banking you fucking idiot.

>Duh, by charging more interest on what they loan out than on what they borrow.
No shit, this doesn't change the fact the fed basically gives them free money to play around with.
Fucking idiot, get off /biz/ if you're this much of a corporate shill.

[Anonymous No.13876981]

>>13876924
>so why ancapism never existed anywhere?

idk, maybe because authoritarianism is way older than 18th-century liberalism? maybe try answering your questions yourself before showing off what a utter moron you are.

> literally can't exist

because when there's no cop around to enforce the law everyone instantly reverts to a violent barbarian, right? get a grip

>each corporation would become like a mini-government

so they ... compete for the good will of the people? literally havin to become the best government they can be to stay afloat? literally what happens when there's no monopoly? kill yourself.

>Ancaps and commies

you're a commie

[Anonymous No.13877004]

>>13876967
>if it isn't self-regulating it isn't a truly free market.
A free market does NOT mean no laws and no governance.
Nobody believes in your retarded strawman dude, you're just digging yourself a deeper hole for yourself here.

A free market basically means either the state or a polycentric legal order(ancap) enforces private property, contracts, liberty etc.

Without this enforcement mechanism, it is NOT a free market by definition.

>UNRESTRICTED competition between private business
lmao according to your retarded made up definition, a company that has members of another company killed is a perfectly fine action in a free market

Stop posting retard.

[Anonymous No.13877005]

>>13876975
>medieval shitholes
>wild west desert shitholes

>>13876981
>instead of getting raped by a single government, its better to get raped by multiple smaller governments!
cucktard

[Anonymous No.13877008]

>>13876881
based

[Anonymous No.13877041]

>>13877005
>>medieval shitholes
Shitholes?
They were extremely peaceful era in human history.
LOL Why are you so mad at reality?

>>wild west desert shitholes
Desert?
The midwest in america is a desert?
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Also, no these eras were actually peaceful and productive, the wild west is literally a holywood myth.
https://www.amazon.com/Not-So-Wild-West-Economics/dp/0804748543

[Jordan Belfort !!/mTXNhdlCsi No.13877051]

>>13877004
>retarded made up definition
Nope, go take a basic microeconomics class
>a company that has members of another company killed is a perfectly fine action in a free market
Who's putting up strawmen now? Killing other people is not a market action.
It would be perfectly fine for one company to price the other out of affording to buy labor, such as when Starbucks drives local cafes out of business and then buys out their location. In fact, this is exactly how they took over Seattle's Best Coffee.

[Anonymous No.13877054]

>>13876975
>implying any of those places ACTUALLY had ancap law
you must be 18 to post here. ancaps are peak delusionists like niggers who think they are descendants of egyptians, there's no objective proof to corroborate any of the retarded conjecture they spew, they literally believe MUH COMPANIES can fix anything, which is funny because ancaps don't believe in moral obligations so it's hilarious they think MUH COMPANIES are morally obligated to fix or do anything for society that doesn't benefit them personally.

ancaps are objectively subhuman niggers as they argue exactly the same

[Anonymous No.13877055]

>>13877005
So far you've debunked nothing and just proven what a fucking bootlicker you are.

Imagine posting on /biz/ and supporting central banking.
AHAHAHAHAHAH FAGGOT

[Anonymous No.13877080]

>>13877041
your only example of ancapism existing is some medieval shithole? this is how you know you lost the argument

>>13877055
you are a bootlicker too, you just lick corporate boots. Do corporate boots taste different from government boots?

[Anonymous No.13877092]

>>13877005
only white genetics can function in a free libertarian society
as the west is invaded with subhumans we will lose more and more freedoms and rights

in china or some jewish bagel shop they will sell you plastic or gutter oil food to save a few cents
whites are the only demographic that votes for less government and more freedom

[Anonymous No.13877103]

>>13877051
>go take a basic microeconomics class
AHAHAHAHAHA holy shit
You're actually ADMITTING you got your definition from a bunch of shit eating neo-keynesians with fancy hats.
I bet you enslaved yourself financially to get this faggots to lecture you too HAHAHAHAHAHA

>Who's putting up strawmen now?
Not me because it's what you actually implied.

>Killing other people is not a market action.
According to you, it's "UNRESTRICTED competition"

>It would be perfectly fine for one company to price the other out of affording to buy labor
Yes, this would be fine in a free market.

Do you actually understand what a free market means you low IQ pleb?
You need an entity to enforce the law thus enforce contracts.
Without that you don't have a market, you have barbarism.

Thanks for admitting I was right though.

[Anonymous No.13877110]

>>13877005
>monopoly is better than competition because that way the outcome is better for the consumer

you realise that apart from showing off an astonishing amount of ignorance regarding the most basic market principles you're argument boils down to "we need governments because otherwise there would be governments and governments are tyranical and evil". holy shit, you have stockholm syndrome. get a grip you fool

[Anonymous No.13877115]

>>13877054
>>implying any of those places ACTUALLY had ancap law
I am implying it because they unironically did.
You would know this if you read some books some time in your live you dumb child.

http://royhalliday.home.mindspring.com/history.htm

[Anonymous No.13877128]

>>13877092
another delusiona lolbercuck that doesn't understand how his ideology works. Corporations love shitskins for cheap labour, it is corporations that are pushing for more immigration

>>13877110

you realise that apart from showing off an astonishing amount of ignorance regarding the most basic market principles you're argument boils down to "we don't need governments because corporations can be better governments, but governments are tyrannical, thats why we need even more of them". holy shit, you have stockholm syndrome. get a grip you fool

[Anonymous No.13877138]

>>13877080
>your only example of ancapism existing is some medieval shithole?
No, large portions of the United States, entire massive countries during the middle ages for literally over 1000 years.
LOL Look at this kid trying to downplay this after he got BTFO.

Clearly ancapism has existed in history and now you're buttmad you got proven wrong.
Stay forever mad.

>you are a bootlicker too, you just lick corporate boots.
TOP KEK
You literally want to print money out of thin air and give it to corporations.
I want to abolish the corporate entity entirely.
Get a load of dat projection.

[Anonymous No.13877151]

>>13877138
yes tard we get it, shitholes in ancient times were """"ancap""", somalia is also ancap

>You literally want to print money out of thin air and give it to corporations.
nice strawman tard

[Anonymous No.13877163]

>>13877128
we went over this 40 posts ago, corporations are protected by government as well allowing them to grow as big as they are
walmart and amazon doesn't work when the employees and USPS are directly subsidized by our taxes

[Anonymous No.13877165]

>>13877080
>Do corporate boots taste different from government boots?
Of course they do.
A government can literally force you to do things against your will.
A corporation tries to sell you something aggressively.
Oh no.

>>13877128
>another delusiona lolbercuck that doesn't understand how his ideology works.
kek you've been so btfo in this thread so far and you're still all high and mighty
pathetic

>Corporations love shitskins for cheap labour, it is corporations that are pushing for more immigration
Actually they're just responding to market demand.
It's the universities, public schools and leftists that are pushing this. Corporations are just trying to cater to these people who make up a large portion of the population now unfortunately. Corporations didn't used to do this.
Yet you don't agree with abolishing that stuff because you're a cuck.

[Anonymous No.13877178]

>>13875081
You literally bought bitcorn at $20,000 from ancaps that bought it at $1 and think you're smart and they are the problem, lmfao

[Anonymous No.13877181]

>>13877163
doesn't work without* the employees and USPS directly subsidized by our taxes
they shut down all the mom and pop shops through unfair government aided businesses practices
not to mention all the tax loopholes they jump through as well

[Anonymous No.13877183]

>>13877110

you're the idiot believing corps would form governments. I'm just saying that then the outcome would be better than what we have now.

For what I believe is that every function the government provides the free market can do better, cheaper and most importantly optionally for you. You're free to become a financial dairy cow for jamal and ahmed if you so like, I just think the decision to do so should be voluntary.

[Jordan Belfort !!/mTXNhdlCsi No.13877193]

>>13876975
>Which is literally dictated by the central banking you fucking idiot.
Nope. There's a few things which determine interest rates.
The Federal Reserve sets the fed funds rate, which affects the rate when banks lend to each other. Banks have to keep a certain amount of their cash "in reserve" and when they're short must borrow from other banks at this rate. The "prime rate" is usually a few points above that, and typically what you get with variable interest loans.

|Investor demand for treasury bonds determines long-term fixed interest rates for things like car loans and mortgages. Logic here being, why would I loan you $20,000 for a car at 2% over 5 years if I could get a treasury bond for 3% over 5 years with less risk?
This isn't affected at all by the fed funds rate.

Then there's the credit card market, which is a very different beast altogether. Revolving credit has the highest interest rates, because the risk is so high and the lending period extremely short. That is why CCs make most of their money on the swipe fees charged to businesses and payment gateways rather than directly from customers.

[Anonymous No.13877196]

>>13877151
>shitholes in ancient times
This is hilarious.
You were absolutely CERTAIN no examples of ancapism existed IN HISTORY(you said history you faggot) and now that you got proved wrong you're backtracking.

Of course living standards were much worse EVERYWHERE during the middle ages.
This has nothing to do with the argument.
Ireland was actually fucking stable during this time which couldn't be said for the rest of the world.

>nice strawman tard
It's not a strawman when you actually support central banking and claim they're "regulating banks"
ahahaAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.13877199]

>>13877115
>he thinks because there weren't enough people to enforce the laws of a kingdom or country that the society was ancap
you should probably learn to read before you suggest reading books to people

[Anonymous No.13877202]

>>13877178
based

[Jordan Belfort !!/mTXNhdlCsi No.13877213]

>>13877103
How stupid are you to translate "competition between businesses" as "murder is legal guys!"

[Anonymous No.13877218]

why do ancaps get so butthurt when you point out the objective fact that ancap has never been practiced in society and never will and that it's a pipe dream in their head lmao fucking cringe

[Anonymous No.13877226]

>>13876362
They have all the money, you think everyone would magically get their resources?

[Anonymous No.13877232]

>>13877178
THIS
lmao

>>13877193
>There's a few things which determine interest rates.
>The Federal Reserve sets the fed funds rate, which affects the rate when banks lend to each other. Banks have to keep a certain amount of their cash "in reserve" and when they're short must borrow from other banks at this rate. The "prime rate" is usually a few points above that, and typically what you get with variable interest loans.
The rate that banks pay the federal reserve isn't exactly the federal reserve interest rate but it's CERTAINLY connected to it.

If the federal reserve was abolished, real interest rates in the economy would be much higher.

I'm still right and you're still wrong.

[Anonymous No.13877237]

>>13877163
if corporations are protected by governments why don't we have 0% corporate tax? let me guess, corporations love to be taxed right? yeah, they must be loving giving away money to the government, right tardboi?
>>13877196
ancapist still didn't exist in history, unless you count complete lawless shitholes as ancap. If you do then sure they existed, and they were all shitholes

>>13877165
exactly dumbass, and in ancapism corporation would have their own armies thus force you do things against your will. same boot, different colour

[Anonymous No.13877238]

>>13877213
let's not pretend you retarded ancaps think lawlessness and the ability to do whatever you want because "morality is objective" isn't a cornerstone of being a subhuman ancap nigger

[Anonymous No.13877262]

Ancap is utopian.
It denies human nature.

God, king and country.

[Anonymous No.13877263]

>>13877199
>>he thinks because there weren't enough people to enforce the laws of a kingdom or country that the society was ancap
Holy shit lol you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and are throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.

There were plenty of people to enforce the laws in Medieval Ireland and they DID enforce the law.
It was called polycentric law.
Nice strawman retard.

>>13877213
>How stupid are you to translate "competition between businesses" as "murder is legal guys!"
Why don't you ask yourself this? You're the one that implied it.
I simply called you out on your bullshit.

>>13877218
I'm not an ancap but why you people get so fucking mad over the fact ancap has existed many times in history and was quite successful?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycentric_law

[Jordan Belfort !!/mTXNhdlCsi No.13877267]

>>13877238
I'm not the one arguing for ancap, dipshit
>>13877232
>rate that banks pay the federal reserve
That isn't what I stated at all anon
>If the federal reserve was abolished, real interest rates in the economy would be much higher.
Based on...?
Even if it was, what exactly do you think that would accomplish?

[Anonymous No.13877282]

>>13877238
that's why we have religion

this is the typical liberal ideology of banning guns and enforcing laws because they're so broken as human beings they would shoot people act like niggers

[Jordan Belfort !!/mTXNhdlCsi No.13877288]

>>13877263
>You're the one that implied it
Uh, but I didn't? Is this how you people operate? Make an assertion then claim it's the other person who said it? Is this what Trump's internet has come to?

[Anonymous No.13877304]

>>13877262
>human nature is boot licking

dude, just because women won't give you the time of day doesn't mean everyone suffers from feeling of inferiority.

[Anonymous No.13877306]

>>13877237
>ancapist still didn't exist in history
But it did.
Those places LITERALLY had polycentric law which is exactly what ancapism is.

>complete lawless shitholes
Ancap isn't lawless. It's extreme enforcement of laws.

>If you do then sure they existed, and they were all shitholes
The places I mentioned when you take in account the era they took place in, were not shitholes, they were actually much more decent places than the rest of the world.

[Anonymous No.13877308]

>>13877263
polycentric law has nothing to do with ancapism. Polycentric law exists in unions and federation in which local law competes with federal law. in ancapism there are no states

[Anonymous No.13877318]

>>13877267
>Based on...?
The fact the federal reserve has been artificially suppressing interest rates for far over a decade now?

>what exactly do you think that would accomplish?
The banks would all go bankrupt and the economy would restructure itself.

[Anonymous No.13877324]

>>13877306
>Those places LITERALLY had polycentric law which is exactly what ancapism is.
no its not >>13877308

[Anonymous No.13877340]

>>13877304
Hierarchies will always form.
Local governance always form in times of anarchy.

Rejecting the Logos always leads to death, Jew.

[Anonymous No.13877342]

>>13877288
>Uh, but I didn't?
But you did.
You claimed that a free market basically means no laws and businesses can do whatever they want.
I corrected you and you're still buttmad about it.

> Is this what Trump's internet has come to?
Holy shit please go back to plebbit.
Why are you leftists even on /biz/?

[Anonymous No.13877359]

>>13877340
>Jew

have sex

[Anonymous No.13877364]

>>13877308
>polycentric law has nothing to do with ancapism.
All of the major theorists of anarcho-capitalism based it on polycentric law.

Why are you just lying at this point?
Kill yourself.

>Polycentric law exists in unions
lol what it has nothing to do with unions
it's literally a legal order for a massive community
nothing to do with unions at all

>in ancapism there are no states
You don't need states for law.
See polycentric law.

[Anonymous No.13877382]

>>13877282
Subhumans have no inner morality.
Their behaviour is externally-enforced.

r-selected filth, that lot.

[Anonymous No.13877384]

>>13877263
>Polycentric law
>slightly libertarianism
>not ancap
keep moving that goal post you fucking subhuman nigger no matter how much you scream about ancap existing in history it hasn't

[Anonymous No.13877391]

>>13877364
>theorists
exactly, your utopian fantasy only exists on paper and not reality. that is why your only examples of that happening in real life were extremely isolated places hundreds of years ago

[Anonymous No.13877400]

>>13877359
Get baptised.

[Anonymous No.13877401]

>>13877359
kys shlomo we're going to genocide all of you rats before the end of the century, we've eradicated 99.999999% of your neanderthal ancestors, finally get the holocaust you've been crying about

[Anonymous No.13877429]

>>13877384
>keep moving that goal post
but I'm fucking not lmao
polycentric law is literally anarcho-capitalism

the two competing schools of anarcho capitalism murray rothbard's school and david friedman's school both state this

what a coping retard holy shit

>>13877391
>exactly, your utopian fantasy only exists on paper and not reality.
What do you mean?
It existed many times in history,
Medieval Iceland
Medieval Ireland
Many periods and areas of the american midwest in the 1700s and 1800s.
Neutral Moresnet

Are you just going to lie and claim these places didn't exist?

>isolated
LOL IRELAND HAD POLYCENTRIC LAW FOR 1000 YEARS
C O P E

[Anonymous No.13877431]

The lies surrounding the creation of money and Banks are one of the deepest rabbit holes you can enter. Once discovered life is never the same I wish I had remained in blissful ignorance regarding the con but once discovered you can never go back. It is one of the most deep betrayals and cons on the general public that most people cannot believe
its true - but sadly it is. If the populace woke up from their slumber there would be blood on the streets by morning.

[Anonymous No.13877443]

>>13877308
> in ancapism there are no states

theoretically there can be states. as long as you grant a right to disenfranchise / there's no violation of the nap, you can do as you please.

I mean when there are people paying for living in celebration, florida there's a certain chance that lots of losers will choose to live in onlywhitefolkallowed, ontario

you can offer the whole package with salutes in the morning and other cult like activity like swearing alliance to a flag

[Anonymous No.13877456]

>>13877401
you already tried. now look at what you have become, goy

[Anonymous No.13877459]

>>13877391
>>13877384
>>13877267
I have to go now.
This is my last post ITT

[Anonymous No.13877461]

>>13877429
>im not an ancap but i'm going to keep doubling down on this objectively false claim that slightly libertarian society was actually ancap

kys you subhuman nigger, as I said before you are one because you argue like them.

[Anonymous No.13877476]

>>13877429
none of these existed. there are no even text or actual evidence from those places that era to even prove that. How about an example in modern history with actual written evidence about it?

[Anonymous No.13877507]

>>13877456
>already tried
good meme the holohoax never happened
>kike haven't had real power for all of history
>have power for 70 years
>thinks history doesn't repeat itself
you rats are so scared, gen z already hates jews. can't wait until israel is overrun with sand niggers and all your women are raped and beheaded

it's gonna be great i hope you don't take the ez way our and kill yourself before the hangings

[Anonymous No.13877514]

>>13877476
>everyrhing I don't like never existsted

I bet you do not even believe in atlantis

[Anonymous No.13877527]

why'd you delete that comment you rat golem? you know what's coming

[Anonymous No.13877534]

>>13877507
based

[Anonymous No.13877538]

>>13877507
>you rats are so scared, gen z already hates jews

ever heard the phrase wishful thinking? also "being a loser with no girlfriend"? common, everyone can tell you're failing at life. stop embracing the ideology of social outcasts dude. noone's at fault for you being a loser but yourself.

[Anonymous No.13877566]

>>13877538
>everyone can tell you're failing at life.
we're the early adopters of bitcoin most of us are young and wealthy and our numbers are growing

[Anonymous No.13877570]

>>13877527
because typo didn't make it clear I was talking about what happened to the white race in the time from the end of the second world war till now.

[Anonymous No.13877571]

>>13877538
yeah it's pretty wishful thinking to believe israel is going to exist by 2050. poor attempt to shame, the golem hates that which he could never be, a real sentient human. you know what's really shameful? the fact jews have lower iq than slavs lmao

[Anonymous No.13877584]

>>13877566
you're not who I was talking to you imbecile.
also kek, you're not wealthy. you're literally clinging to a get rich quick scheme.

[Anonymous No.13877600]

>>13877570
>he thinks the kike elite haven't destroyed their fellow jew too
lmao oh sweetie, you must be struggling with israels 22% and growing arab population.

pic related, even the rothschild jewess' have been blacked lmao cope harder

[Anonymous No.13877621]

>>13877571
>you know what's really shameful? the fact jews have lower iq than slavs lmao

fun fact: I'm a slav, not a jew. but hey, just so you don't feel that bad: I really don't care about group identity. Also I know my IQ. So good luck trying to shame me with that.

[Anonymous No.13877629]

>>13877584
get rich quick schemes are the only things kikes have ever created, don't be such a hypocrite you rate golem

[Anonymous No.13877639]

>>13877600
>he believes the world is actually controlled by someone

I've got bad news for you: you're really not that smart, boy

[Anonymous No.13877654]

>>13877621
>implying you can't be a slavic jew
>implying jews don't shape shift and pretend to be whatever suites their needs in any given moment
k

[Anonymous No.13877667]

>>13876554

Would corporations exist in a Libertarian society?

[Anonymous No.13877673]

>>13877639
>strawmaning the argument into "someone"
why can't you rats ever argue without using logical fallacies to disrupt debate?

[Anonymous No.13877686]

>>13877654
23andme says I'm only 4% jew, desu. I think that's the reason why I can't turn myself into a bear at will: just not jewish enough to become a shapeshifter

[Anonymous No.13877730]

>>13877673
>why can't you rats ever argue without using logical fallacies to disrupt debate?

honestly? because you people are just pathetic enough to fall for it. you can't imagine how much I'm laughing over here. Oh wait, given the shit you post you're probably used to being laughed at.

[Anonymous No.13877740]

I don't even know what we're arguing about anymore, but libertarian ideas paired with morality and religion is the meta society

fuck communists, governments, kikes, central banks, niggers, slavs, and jannies
I'm going mountain biking have a nice day

[Anonymous No.13877835]

>>13877730
>i willingly interject lies and false knowledge because i'm a surreptitious rat
i already knew that but it's nice to hear it straight from the golems mouth.
>you can't imagine how much I'm laughing over here
will you pretend you aren't jewish when we're lynching you in the streets?
>Oh wait, given the shit you post you're probably used to being laughed at.
ironic because people have hated and laughed at you kikes for all of recorded history and this brief 70 year period is the only time you've been absolved of being relegated to the most repugnant culture

for someone who claims to only be 4% jewish you're pretty adamant on defending your fellow subhuman rats

[Anonymous No.13877922]

>>13877835
>willingly interject lies
just because you struggle to find an argument against a fact does not mean it's a lie. usually it's just a sign that you are stupid. deal with it.

>will you pretend you aren't jewish

if showing you my huge uncat slav dick counts as pretending than sure as hell I will.

>at you kikes

again: there'd be way fewer kikes around if it wasn't up to you to decide who's a kike and who's not.

>defending your fellow subhuman rats

am I? the more you know I guess ...

[Anonymous No.13877983]

>>13877835
>>13877922

hey, answer. c'mon. don't you have anything to say about my jewish reddit spacing or are you afraid you might have angered the secret masters of this world?

[Anonymous No.13878099]

>>13877922
>just because you struggle to find an argument against a fact does not mean it's a lie.
why doe rat jews always say the opposite of what is actually happening? it's like when you're fellow rats call people kikes on /pol/ because they can only accuse their opponents of what they themselves do

objectively everything i've said is right, jews are neanderthal golems who are going to be genocided by 2050, you've only had real power and freedom for 70 years, the world has only accepted jews for 70 years, history repeats itself and gen z hates jews already, I haven't said anything untruthful while you've just been crying like the rat you are about your inevitable future

I hope you're excited for the arabization of israel, 22% and growing. jews fleeing europe from the sand niggers your elite kalergi kike have imported, it must feel weird knowing you're the same to them as we goys are.

sorry but I need to get back to work and order my jew rat slaves to be more productive, i hope you understand.

[Anonymous No.13878267]

>>13878099
> it's like when you're fellow rats call people kikes on /pol/

you're kidding me, aren't you? is this bait or do you really lack all ability for critical thinking and self reflection?

> jews are neanderthal golems
>objectively everything i've said is right

my sides.

> you've just been crying

my jews hurr durr muh gen z huurr golem ... ahahahahahaha kek you funny, mister.

>I hope you're excited for the arabization of israel

oh noes, I'm soo afraid ... please no mr. random stranger who obviously has teh p0wer to do anything, please no ... not muh israel ... noeoeoeohrewohtwiewor
ahhdahfdshsaha
kekekeke
you're such a loser. you don't even get that I don't care. I'm literally laughing about you and you do not sotp. PLEASE MOEARRRR

[Anonymous No.13878283]

>>13878099
>sorry but I need to get back to work
we all know you're unemployed. stop lying.

[Anonymous No.13878639]

>>13875081
I don't want mass adoption

I want mass tax evasion

Statists BTFO

[Anonymous No.13879061]

>>13875081
Hi

[Anonymous No.13879400]

gov = TTP
TTP = gone

[Anonymous No.13879807]

>>13875081
>Statists are ancaps now
makes you really ponder