When is this PIECE going to moon?

[Anonymous No.13595776]

[Anonymous No.13595873]

Never, apparently. Idiots like we two will sit on the sidelines with our ETH bags while BTC maximalists throw rocks at us from their moonbases.

[Anonymous No.13595900]

>>13595776
Right after you sell and FOMO into btc's top at about 8000.

[Anonymous No.13596011]

>>13595776
sorry fren, bitcoin's rallying to it's ATH before ETH breaks $200.

[Anonymous No.13596024]

Shut your pie hole and wait for serenity, or continue flapping your beak and help with the project.

[Anonymous No.13596032]

From what I understand as a brainlet, we have to wait for the new higher btc floor before money moves into eth and alts...

[Anonymous No.13596034]

These bags. Feels bad, man.

[Anonymous No.13596040]

>>13596024
Lol

[Anonymous No.13596045]

>>13595776
It will be over $250 in 6 hours. Straight up 100% for sure

[Anonymous No.13596050]

>>13595776
Don’t worry it’ll go.
It’s still fueling for launch.
Accumulate now.
$500 minimum end of June

[Anonymous No.13596061]

>>13595873

Are you kidding me? BTC gets attacked the most on here with BCH / BSV etc, that shit happens every single fucking day. Tether, binance hack, etc are all blamed on BTC (even though tether could be used to buy ETH and the binance hack also affects ETH in terms of liquidity).

I rarely see a thread attacking ETH.

The reason ETH is not up is because the only purpose of ETH is ICOs. Any real dapps like crypto kitties will crash the entire network.

You're literally bag holding a coin where the creators printed 72 million ETH for themselves and their investors (which means right now they hold more coins than has been ever mined on ETH). You don't know the ETH supply a year from now and you sure as hell don't know what that supply cap is. Whatever VB says goes.

[Anonymous No.13596080]

>>13595776
eth needs PoS to truly moon and flip bitcoin. Anything before PoS is noise.
PoS comes partially later this year, but full eth 2.0 probably in late 2021

[Anonymous No.13596083]

Now ICOs are dead it has no demand. Why would it pump? Even if it did pump, the projects you so recklessly give all your ETH to will take the opportunity to dump

[Anonymous No.13596084]

>>13596061
eth is not bad but its not btc either. it has a future and at least "a good one"

[Anonymous No.13596095]

>>13596080
I can't believe people that think the rich should get richer by doing nothing is a good model

jesus christ

>>13596084

Sure, if you think so. I personally disagree that people would store any wealth in it. The economic model simply makes no sense.

> You're literally bag holding a coin where the creators printed 72 million ETH for themselves and their investors (which means right now they hold more coins than has been ever mined on ETH). You don't know the ETH supply a year from now and you sure as hell don't know what that supply cap is. Whatever VB says goes.

[Anonymous No.13596100]

>>13596095
stakers are paid for securing the network.

[Anonymous No.13596159]

>>13596100

You're not securing the network. There's no hashing or anything done. How does putting money in make the network secure?

Proof of work - doing billions of computations per second, forcing miners to build better and better systems to protect the network, get rewarded.

Proof of stake - Put money in. Hey look I put money in, the network is now secured! Thanks, now I get more money.

Ok buddy. Good luck with that.

[Anonymous No.13596187]

>>13596159
if you attack the network your stake is deleted (slashed). If you're offline too much you start to lose money (but much less than an intentional attack).
It's a decentralized version of an arrangement as old as civilization in which a contract is guaranteed by some assets (eg. surety bond).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surety_bond
>Proof of work - doing billions of computations per second, forcing miners to build better and better systems to protect the network, get rewarded.
labor theory of value is wrong

[Anonymous No.13596200]

>>13595776
Soon

[Anonymous No.13596229]

>>13596061
> The only purpose of ETH is ICOs
Shut the fuck up you dumb nigger. Chomp on some byte code you worthless faggot.

[Anonymous No.13596254]

>>13595776
Meanwhile I'm waiting for the piece BTC to freaking send, 2 hours later...

[Anonymous No.13596258]

>>13596187

You have to recognize ETH devs & investors printed 72 million ETH for themselves. They hold majority stake. You must remember ETH did not start as a fair system. It was and still is, tilted towards ETH devs & investors. This is especially important when you recognize that ETH devs changed the rate of ETH token generation, with such ease. Therefore, you cannot know ETH's supply a year from now, how much ETH will be generated, and you cannot know ETH's supply limit.

That itself is crazy. No sane person with capital would store their wealth in such a system.

In a PoS system, the majority always wins. That means the majority holders right now, are ETH investors & devs. If it goes to PoS right now, ETH investors & devs can stake their coins, giving them full control over the network as they hold the majority. They will clam the 49% (aka you, and all coins that have been mined) are attacking the network because they control the majority consensus. Since they claim you are attacking the network, your stake is slashed and all bases belongs to them.

It is absolutely insane. If ETH had a fair start (where ETH supply started at 0, I'd say collusion described above is much less likely). But that's not the case. Before any blocks were mined, there were already 72 million ETH, generated from nothing.

Logically, PoS can have a chance after ETH investors & devs only hold like 20-30%. That means ETH supply needs to be at least 216 million ETH. Since the devs already purposefully reduced the ETH supply, this is not likely to happen any time soon so they are strengthening their grip on the entire network.

Look at the fucking economics of how this coin is setup. It's not fair and it's not in your favor.

[Anonymous No.13596298]

>>13596258
>You have to recognize ETH devs
>They hold majority stake
That's true for newer coins but ethereum foundation was nearing bankruptcy at some point, making them sell a lot. Many devs publicly sold nearly everything (eg. Vlad Zamfir sold ~100% of his initial stake for single digits, leading to his eternal butthurt).
>investors
that's true for every coin by definition
>and you cannot know ETH's supply limit.
it's irrelevant once PoS goes live, because whatever the inflation is you're going to earn it + fees
>They will clam the 49% (aka you, and all coins that have been mined) are attacking the network because they control the majority consensus. Since they claim you are attacking the network, your stake is slashed and all bases belongs to them.
brainlet tier conspiracy theory

[Anonymous No.13596332]

i literally went all in on eth when btc was at 5k and im literally at a loss right now. wtf i should be up like 400 bucks

[Anonymous No.13596351]

>>13596061
Could you be anymore braindead? This sub 80iq pajeet fud is making me fucking bullish on this. You literally know nothing. Get out from the echo chamber you dumbcuck

[Anonymous No.13596368]

>>13596298

> brainlet tier conspiracy theory

It is not a conspiracy, that's by definition how the network will function. Majority consensus always wins and that's it. There's no "proof" of "work" needed to come to that conclusion.

Also, just because someone sold doesn't mean they didn't buy. You cannot assume they never bought back.

Anyway, just my 2 cents and opinion. No one reads this board anyway and the price won't move depending on what I post. In my opinion, there are fundamental flaws. You're welcome to trade this coin all you want and make way more money I'll ever have. My only recommendation is to not store your wealth in it.

[Anonymous No.13596376]

>>13596368
Love seeing shit like this. You know nothing either lol. Fuck

[Anonymous No.13596399]

>>13595776
Right after Bitcoin.

[Anonymous No.13596421]

>>13596368
it's brainlet tier because even if devs owned majority of coins such an action would destroy their value
>You cannot assume they never bought back.
I can because their butthurt about speculators never went away. It's enormous.
It's the reason the pow inflation cut was so mild and so hard to attain. Eth inflation is still higher than btc's, although by less than 1 percentage point.

The only eth dev that still owns a lot is vitalik, and not surprisingly he is the sole voice for low inflation and capped supply (idea appears to be shelved) with every other dev wanting higher inflation.

[Anonymous No.13596436]

>>13595776
once you sell

[Anonymous No.13596439]

>>13596229
The funny thing is, with crypto going bull again and facebook allowing crypto ads again.. We might see another string of ICOs.

Although I think some progress will be made on Ethereum this year, and as more and more normies get involved in the market, they will see ETH as the holy grail. It actually does something besides being a public ledger.

[Anonymous No.13596442]

>>13596399
All major alts will also start their pump including scam coins like XRP, XLM, TRX, BCH, and yes even BSV.

[Anonymous No.13596468]

>>13596442
bsv is neither on binance nor coinbase, it's not going to pump.

[Anonymous No.13596483]

>>13596254
Its honestly more evidence of clown world that BTC is still thought of by so many as the #1 currency. It can't do anything but be currency, Ethereum can serve as currency and be used to do other things.

ETH is actually closer to digital gold than BTC is. Gold has some utility, other than being used as a currency. ETH has some utility other than being used as a currency. BTC does not. I would much rather be holding something that has some type of utility, even if that utility is just running online casinos/ICOs/blockchain games.

[Anonymous No.13596505]

>>13596468
It probably will pump sadly. This is crypto we are talking about, remember people bought the "dip" on Bitconnect.

[Anonymous No.13596512]

>>13596421
did the DAO fork hurt it's value?
who's going to be able to even validate such a bloated shitcoin (if it ever gets a real dapp)
right now the miners decide who gets to run a validating node and all you idiots are running pruned non validating nodes
you won't even know how they're fucking you it's a disaster

[Anonymous No.13596569]

>>13596512
2.0 coming soon. You’ll kys in a few years for being so delusional.

[Anonymous No.13596585]

>>13596512
>did the DAO fork hurt it's value?
it was a mistake in hindsight, but at the time people believed that up to 15% of all eth supply was at risk of being stolen.
When Parity lost enormous amounts due to the bug in their multisig contract, tried to force a bailout and failed.
>who's going to be able to even validate such a bloated shitcoin
All the lies you heard about enormous blockchain are false. The blockchain itself is smaller than in bitcoin at 75GB. A full node which puts everything into a database needs 162GB (Parity).
https://etherscan.io/chartsync/chaindefault

Eth 2.0 is going to sync much faster there's going to be state rent, meaning storing data is going to cost something per unit of time.
>right now the miners decide who gets to run a validating node
what?
>and all you idiots are running pruned non validating nodes
if you mean a light node, it's a much safer equivalent of electrum and only one option. It's easy to sync a full node.

[Anonymous No.13596698]

putting half my check into eth every week as long as it stays around these price levels.

im not going to have much USD but the jews want you to hodl usd

[Anonymous No.13596762]

>>13596698

same ETH can stay below $200 for a while as far as I'm concerned lol

[Anonymous No.13596769]

Btc to ATH = 260% gain
Eth to ATH = 800% gain

Choose ur gainz

[Anonymous No.13596800]

>>13595776
it's up 100,750%. you are a late adopter.

[Anonymous No.13596805]

>>13596024
>just wait for serenity...
>2 years later
>just wait for serenity
nice clusterfuck dev process you have there

[Anonymous No.13596810]

>>13596050

[Anonymous No.13596817]

>>13596298
And this time he has to sell 0xbtc too thus allowing it to rise thousand fold.

[Anonymous No.13596824]

>>13596080
>PoS comes partially later this year
no anon, that is pure delusion... and don't go pointing to that random slapdash testnet written in the absence of a finished spec, that shit is a complete fucking joke and should not even have been made. it's just a marketing ploy to trick retards into thinking that POS is close.

[Anonymous No.13596849]

>>13596805
delay is the sole reason why eth is so low, everyone expected hybrid pos in 2018.
If you look at eth 2.0 development there are several independent teams and it's all going much better
>>13596817
I forgot that shitcoin existed. Those bags must hurt
>>13596824
>written in the absence of a finished spec
the spec is basically finished, official finalization date is end of June
https://github.com/ethereum/eth2.0-specs/tree/dev/specs/core
It's virtually certain beacon chain is going to launch in 2019, hybrid PoS was way more chaotic and development closed. Beacon chain alone is completely independent of the current network, only later a connection is going to happen (2020 probably)

[Anonymous No.13596852]

>>13596061
>whatever vb says goes
which isn't all bad, he's accountable and would get got if he fucked things up

[Anonymous No.13596903]

Ethereum has already won.

ERC-1404 token is lit. It'll crush almost all STOs.

Ethereum will be nsassively scalable in the future. With smart contracts

It's already over. Bitcoin is on a good run. It's does that from time to time.

ETH will have a trillion dollar market cap by 2022.

[Anonymous No.13596981]

>>13596061
>I rarely see a thread attacking ETH.
every thread about eth attacks it
>sharding was supposed to be 2017 but now it's 2021
>vitalik said 100m coins max

only comfort is that everything supporting eth is in english, like eea and microsoft, chinks don't get that it's actually backed to do something, they just buy tron/eos and other centralized shit that's the 'next eth'

think eth stands to benefit the most from crypto acceptation

[Anonymous No.13597191]

RRRRRRRRRRRRRRight now

[Anonymous No.13597198]

>>13596903
komodo is good also

[Anonymous No.13597212]

>>13595776
The fact it's not rising at all suggests to me what we're seeing isn't renewed faith in the market and the BTC rise will lose steam.

I have $12 in ETH so i don't care about it though.

[Anonymous No.13597214]

>>13597191
HOLLLLLYY FUCCKKKK you aren't kidding

[Anonymous No.13597215]

>>13597212
It's popping HARD right now, looks like it's ETH's turn

[Anonymous No.13597221]

Its our turn

[Anonymous No.13597239]

EriK Voorhees jsut made public bet eth outperforms btc till nerd of year.

Price allready 8% up

Get rekt fags

[Anonymous No.13597243]

>>13597212
Are you new to crypto? During bull markets there is a continuous push and pull between bitcoin mooning while alts crater and bitcoin plateauing while alts moon
I dont think its really surprising that btc was first to move for the start of the rally

[Anonymous No.13597248]

https://twitter.com/ErikVoorhees/status/1126917451289993217

>https://twitter.com/iamDCinvestor/status/1126957043787677696

[Anonymous No.13597249]

vitalik buTREN pumpin eth like he pumps that iron

[Anonymous No.13597261]

$1500 in August
$2400 in December
$10000 in 2020

[Anonymous No.13597265]

>>13597248
What a slimy pajeet. Makes an assertion and immediately weasels out when called on it.

[Anonymous No.13597278]

>>13597243
Nope. First got in (in a small way) 2014. I know they don't follow 1:1 but eth usually lags BTC somewhat closely and I'd have expected to see a lift by now.

[Anonymous No.13597329]

>>13597265

What did you expected from btc maximalist+pajet lol

People like him made me use head and step out of btc echochamber 2017

[Anonymous No.13597404]

>>13597265
he agreed to a different one later, that eth/btc won't be above 0.075 within a year even once

[Anonymous No.13597410]

>>13597329
this buterin guy is a fucking loser-retard who accidently stepped into gold with eth. i wouldn't give a shit on any of his opinions that arent purely tech/coding related. he's propably a full of shit bullying victim, just look at his physique. dude has likely never even pounded pussy or humiliated someone in a physical fight lmao. people
like that heavily lack some crucial real-life insights and skill no money can ever buy.

[Anonymous No.13597424]

>>13597404
> literally weasels out of two different positions
Goddamn i hate pajeets. Next year he'll say he had meant ETH won't be 75x BTC.

[Anonymous No.13597430]

>>13597424
He literally didn’t weasel out of anything. He literally said from the start he’s going to make a bet on ETHBTC. Goddamn I hate racist keyboard warrior cumskins like you. Fucking all talk and cowering down like pussies every single time in real life.

[Anonymous No.13597435]

>>13597430
Btw this is coming from someone who does believe ETH will do well, but he literally didn’t weasel out of shit.

[Anonymous No.13597442]

>>13596040

[Anonymous No.13597444]

>>13597329
t. Racist whiteboi who shorted at 4k. Try next time idiot while I long 3k, close 6.5k, and am now buying ETH.

[Anonymous No.13597461]

>>13597410
imagine typing this

thank god I wasn't born a brainlet

[Anonymous No.13597462]

>>13597444
>>>/pol/
join your kind

[Anonymous No.13597464]

>>13597430
> subhuman: "eth and alts won't rise!"
> human: "i bet that eth gains more in percentage this year than BTC"
> mongoloid sentient crap: "no please not this year sir, how about it won't get half its previous ATH compared to BTC?"
> human: "okay, it will make half ATH this year"
> festering pestilence: "no sir pls it won't be half of BTC, it can bull run"
> forgiving saint: "not an ideal bet ill make it in the spirit of good sportsmanship"

[Anonymous No.13597466]

>>13597444
Whats your sell price for eth my indian fren

[Anonymous No.13597485]

>>13597466
1 drop of a aryan blood to complete the pajeet ritual of ascension

[Anonymous No.13597571]

>>13595776
Fuck this piece of shit scam coin and fuck Vitalik

Go all in Bitcoin and XMR

[Anonymous No.13597590]

>>13597571
Bitcoin and *BNB

You can trust coins with B in them.

[Anonymous No.13597598]

>>13597571
Also, take some LTC. It's the silver to Bitcoin's gold.

[Anonymous No.13597640]

bitching about cryptokitties clogging ethereum is the litmus test for dunning-kruger opinions about this
the gas market performed as intended during the initial rush. the network literally never slowed down or crashed. newbies letting their gas price autosuggested to 20 by primitive wallets got their tx stuck for a while, that's about it. worth noting at 100 gas price, ethereum transactions were still cheaper than bitcoin
no later than the next weekend, eth devs of all stripes came up with network improvements to drive down the costs and increase thoroughput
three weeks later, costs were back to normal
then for the following year and a half, regular improvements were made
hundreds of dapps have been running on layer 1. layer 2 solutions have matured through 2018, and some popular dapps seamlessly run millions of transactions there
ofc, if you're the average btc bagholding retard who gets your news from coindesk, you don't know that. more importantly, you don't WANT to know that. after king shitcoin has been gimped into a purely speculative tool for market manipulators, you have to cling to the store of value narrative for dear life. ignore all information, refuse to learn, stick to debunked talking points. bitch about the 2016 DAO while the 2018 parity bailout failed. complain about emission rate (that you call inflation, because it's a serious economic term and makes you feel like a serious man talking about serious money - even if any economist could tell you this is not what inflation means), even though by design ethereum emission rate naturally trends towards 0 as we approach infinity, not unlike bitcoin pow stretching decades - save for the fact bitcoin has no plans to deal with decreasing block rewards, except "the price will magically rise forever because deflation". cry about PoS being about the rich, when the minimum level of entry for bitcoin mining is an ASIC farm
bitcoin has swapped fundamental value for spiritual value. gl with that

[Anonymous No.13597672]

>>13597571

Was thinking about picking up some xmr seeing as its very low right now

[Anonymous No.13597682]

>>13597590
>buying chink coins
Anon I...

[Anonymous No.13597691]

>>13597404
>Vijay Boyapati
lmao he thinks a handshake is enough for a pajeet? he should have set up an escrow

[Anonymous No.13597697]

>>13597672
Monero is pretty much the only crypto that is actually being used and works, also it has one of the highest amount of active developers on Github.

It's pretty much more Bitcoin than Bitcoin.

[Anonymous No.13597698]

>>13597691
guarantee the pajeet crossed his fingers

[Anonymous No.13597752]

>>13597697
>Monero is pretty much the only crypto that is actually being used
imagine believing this

[Anonymous No.13597760]

>>13597410
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

[Anonymous No.13597767]

YASSS QUEEEN SLAY
wish i did this with my entire stack, oh well profit is profit

[Anonymous No.13597774]

>>13597767
breaking 190

[Anonymous No.13597782]

OP here yesssss it worked it's mooning!!

[Anonymous No.13597796]

>>13597752
Dogecoin has more transactions than 99% of cryptos

This doesn't mean that buying XMR right now isn't like buying Bitcoin when it was solely used on the deep web in 2011/2012.
Who the fuck accepts a meme coin like Ethereum on the deepweb?

[Anonymous No.13597800]

>>13597796
>Who the fuck accepts a meme coin like Ethereum on the deepweb?
tochka

[Anonymous No.13597802]

>>13595776
fantom chad reporting in.
eth is old tech, fantom will dethrone it and since it can use eth smart contracts it will be able to use chainlink oracles.
will be the kang in a few years

[Anonymous No.13597809]

>>13597802

[Anonymous No.13597903]

Should I trade my ETH for BTC and try riding this pump or should I just leverage trade ETH and hope it pumps into a BTC gain?

[Anonymous No.13597905]

>>13596061
>The reason ETH is not up is because the only purpose of ETH is ICOs. Any real dapps like crypto kitties will crash the entire network.
You're forgetting about Augur

[Anonymous No.13597907]

>had only 40€ in ETH

fuck being a poor neet, remember to wave once you lads reach the moon

[Anonymous No.13597911]

>>13597903
holy fuck we are breaking $3100
why are you asking for financial advice on a mongolian basket weaving forum?

[Anonymous No.13597947]

>>13597911
Because crypto is such a heavily manipulated market that any advise is pretty much equally likely to be good advice and I won't be able to buy a whole BTC for who knows how long since it started moving upward in spite of th Binance news before I could buy one.

[Anonymous No.13598048]

>>13597911
>holy fuck we are breaking $3100
uhh

[Anonymous No.13598049]

>>13595776
Soon just buy

[Anonymous No.13598069]

>>13597640

fucking based

>>13597802

All acording to 21y marketing menager on telegram

[Anonymous No.13598607]

>>13596061
This is why Ethereum needs a pure mined store of value instead of using ETH, ETH is supposed to be the gasoline for the network ffs...

[Anonymous No.13598646]

>>13596298
Vlad Zamfir is unknowingly lowkey shilling 0xBitcoin, "ETH is not money". You guys can't fucking deny that

[Anonymous No.13598674]

Imagine thinking eth is going to “moon” any more than it already did. BTC might keep mooning to 50k or something, but eth is done. It’ll NEVER be higher than 1k ever again. It’s a piece of shit

[Anonymous No.13598734]

>>13598674

[Anonymous No.13598740]

>>13598674
its a 18+ board, please leave

[Anonymous No.13598755]

>>13598740
but it is trash and for it to scale it has to sacrifice trustlesness, i'm still betting on the hype tho

[Anonymous No.13598964]

>>13597640
Absolutely BASED
Fuck Bitcone
Eth and its ecosystem is the future

[Anonymous No.13598989]

It already went 2x from $80. Get ready for another 5-10x this year.

[Anonymous No.13599175]

>>13596258
you say this but 100% of super rich store their wealth in fiat which is printed daily

[Anonymous No.13599188]

>>13596505
this is a wise clown world comment, anything is possible in crypto

[Anonymous No.13599225]

>>13595873
I''l be there with you frens getting justd by evil money skeleton

[Anonymous No.13599273]

>>13596903
I'm only worried about money skeleton's max supply changing policy
Also, their goal is not to build a deflationary token/currency but muh world computer