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13332032 No.13332032 [Reply] [Original]

If he signed a message from block 1 all hard drives containing the bitcoin blockchain would explode.

>> No.13332035

>>13332032
He wont. Because he cant.
Pathetic.

>> No.13332051

>>13332032
>>13332035

How would him having keys to the genesis wallet prove that he created bitcoin? It wouldn’t.

>> No.13332056

>>13332051
It would prove that he had access to the genesis blocks. He would likely have many keys.
Only satoshi would likely have that.

>> No.13332076

>>13332051
You don't need to prove it in a court of law to affect the market. You just need to prove it in the court of public opinion, which is all that matters in crypto.

>> No.13332077

>>13332056

Are you retarded? Literally having keys doesn’t prove anything. Keys couldn’t be given away, stolen, etc. that does not prove you created the fucking mechanism the keys operate.

>> No.13332087

>>13332076

I would argue that a court judgement would carry a lot of weight in the public opinion. I’m get your point but it’s not accurate.

>> No.13332099

>>13332087
Depends. Did the court judgement change public perception for Jusse Smollet? OJ Simpson? Michael Jackson? People trust courts only as long as they give sane rulings.

>> No.13332105

>>13332077
Hypothetically speaking, how would the real Satoshi prove that he's the one who created Bitcoin?

>> No.13332127

>>13332077
Having the keys would prove it to me. Doing idiotic legal shit instead of clever cryptography shit proves the opposite.
Satoshi would do clever things not normie court shit.

>> No.13332131

>>13332032
what matters is the price

>> No.13332142

>>13332127

So IF CW was proven to be Satoshi. Explain to me what would happen. And if he was proven to be a fraud, again, how would that change anything?

>> No.13332150

>>13332142
The price will skyrocket

>> No.13332151

>>13332142
If he were satoshi I would likely already be following him. Because he isn't, he is doing dumb shit and trying to get attention.
At this point, if he signed the genesis blocks, I would buy BSV and start up a node.
He won't.

>> No.13332157

He can sign any time he wants to. He won't because sòyim zoomers demanded he do it. Don't like it?

STIFF

>> No.13332159

>>13332151

You’re retarded. After seeing how idiotic CW is and then proved he was satoshi, you suddenly support him?

>> No.13332180

He already signed it to Gavin's eyes only and the only thing that exploded was his wallet.

>> No.13332193

>>13332105
signing is a good start showing early unpublished prototype code and development details maybe testimony from trustworthy people that were secretly involved.

>> No.13332196

>>13332159
i wouldnt i would dump my btc and buy eth

>> No.13332197

>>13332180

Can someone explain what happened here to me? Did he say he signed to Gavin, or did he give him some other satisfactory proof that could be falsified? How would Gavin not know whats going on? Why doesn't he defend Craigs claims?

>> No.13332201

>>13332180
$signiture never forget that creg is a bamboozling fraudster

>> No.13332202

>>13332159
There are plenty of devs that I have known that were antisocial as fuck and did things differently. Some of them had amazing insights and were prolific creators.
Satoshi is a prolific creator. If he were antisocial and angsty I would forgive that.

>> No.13332207

>>13332196
>>13332201
You're one weird shitskin.

>> No.13332208

>>13332197
he signed in a private controlled seance with a script that would verify whatever he wanted.

>> No.13332229

>>13332208
He didn't sign, he reused a signature. He was caught red handed pulling the same stunt again and in public.

>> No.13332242
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13332242

>>13332207

>> No.13332244

>>13332208
That's what I'm saying though. Wasn't Gavin watching? Wouldn't it be 100% obvious he was trying to fool him? Did Gavin not try to verify the resulting signature himself? It seems like him pressing a button on a computer and a huge green checkmark would not be satisfactory. He must have been using non standard tools instead of something as simple as like a pgp command line, is that not a red flag to Gavin? I have to admit Gavin in this was a wild card for me when I first heard about it and fuck it still makes no sense. Is he not a respected programmer?

>> No.13332268

>>13332244
he is a conman he is working his victims for many days charming them seducing them distracting them, and hard to spot that one letter difference if you just glance at the script.

>> No.13332272
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>>13332244
i know gavin. met him at london bitcoin meetups back in the day. gavin is perfectly happy to let craig claim he is satoj. gavin is protecting the real satoj. if everyone believes creg is satoj then no one is looking for the real satoj. just go on bitcointalk and look at the threads. it's obvious who satoj is. but no one is going to tell a newfag. just try asking.

>> No.13332279

>>13332272
that is also possible but gavin later said it's also possible he was bamboozled by creg (like many people before him)

>> No.13332289

>>13332279
>"I believed him, but it's possible I was also bamboozled"

t. gavin

>> No.13332304

>>13332289
it's what creg does tone vays the despicable manlet who is a total bitcoin maximalist and calls all other coins shitcoins especially cash was totally taken off his feet and charmed when he met creg. just think about it, this guy is probably a world class psychopath. in person he can convince you the sky is purple. what he can't do is produce any credible proof to his involvement in bitcoin development or sign publicly.

>> No.13332305

>>13332202
he's just a vocal smartass tho, even if he was Satoshi I would have to consider if him creating Bitcoin was just a lucky break,

>> No.13332312

>>13332242
oh man, you're a dyslexic shitskin ain't you?

>> No.13332335

>>13332312
they call this an argument around where you live?

>> No.13332356

>>13332335
he's probably the infinity plus 1 guy, who is in everything thread saying the same shit with nothing to contribute.

>> No.13332422

>>13332305
well two things about this
1 the myth of satoshi being a genius is completely blatantly unfounded, everything he used to put together bitcoin was already researched and published about a decade before 2009. basically bit gold was almost exactly like bitcoin sans the hashcash pow bit (also prior researched and published), it was just never implemented. if anything satoshi was doing the heavy lifting a meticulous coder doing a lot of testing and debugging and writing code.
2 creg can't code to save his life calling him a dev is an incredible slight to devs around the world.

all in all btc was not a stroke of genius it was hard meticulous work by an actual dev with the mindset of a creator not a twitter primadonna.

>> No.13332437

>>13332304
tone vays is also pro creg because he sees it as a social attack on forks and alts. perfectly happy to boost cregs popularity because it suits tones agenda.

>> No.13332449
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13332449

Does anyone have clown-Craig saved?

>> No.13332451

>>13332437
doesn't suit his view on bitcoin and why bitcoin is the only important crypto. creg attacks that notion directly.

>> No.13332464

>>13332451
no he doesn't he just claims to be satoshi badly. no one takes him really seriiusly. but certain useful idiots do. creg is controlled opposition for some people.

>> No.13332478

>>13332242
>>13332268

This scripts error would not produce a verified result though. He would need to switch out the public key not the signature. If he isn't Satoshi he could never sign any file that will verify against a known Satoshi public key.
Even after admitting he could be bamboozled hes still confident which seems off. You don't lightly glance at the script that confirms Satoshi's identity. Plus all this stuff with Dave Klieman and his estate and the lawsuit and supposed legal trust that will release the remaining Bitcoin to Craig in the future. Very interesting stuff. Hes obviously a hell of a conman and it seems like hes constantly doubling down; I can't wait to see whats next.

>> No.13332483

>>13332464
>he just claims to be satoshi badly
actually he claims first and foremost that the despicable curry poo coin sv is the ""real"" bitcoin. creg is the kind of guy that doesn't understand what bitcoin actually is. he doesn't understand consensus, he is the my way or the highway sort of cuck that absolutely loves central authority.

>> No.13332487

>>13332478
>This scripts error would not produce a verified result though.
unless there is a variable declared already before running the shell script named $signiture... which proves it couldn't have been an accidental typo. it is deliberate fraud 100%.

>> No.13332507

>>13332478
>He would need to switch out the public key not the signature.
no he claimed to have signed with his private key and verified it with a known public key. if he replaced the public key the whole point would be moot not to mention it would be too obvious. he had to replace the signature for one he made with his private key. then he carefully deleted the fraudulent signature.

>> No.13332508

>>13332487
I get its a naming error, swapping a signature out. But I'm just pointing out that wouldn't work; it would be swapping the public key out. He can't generate ANY signature that will verify against any message and a Satoshi public key. Once you swap out the public key, you sign the file normally and boom a valid signature. Did you write that script meme because it just wouldn't work. Hes probably a fraud though, and this is one way he could have done it.

>> No.13332598

>>13332508
>But I'm just pointing out that wouldn't work
yes it would creg reused old signatures and got caught doing it this is well documented.

>> No.13332605

>>13332508
and yes you could do it by replacing either the public key for a self signed signature or replacing the signature with a difference previous valid signature (not valid for the file in question obviously that's the slight of hand here) while pretending you are checking the sig on your file. it wouldn't work in a public demonstration this requires a controlled setting and creg only ever successfully "signed" in private on a machine he controlled.

>> No.13332611

>>13332605
sorry forgot to add: but if any tool outputs the public key or hash you would get caught immediately if you replaced the public key.

>> No.13332642

>>13332051
>>13332077
Him NOT having the keys pretty much proves he is not Satoshi.

God you're retarded.

>> No.13332653

>>13332642
This. And Creg wants ppl to believe hes Satoshi so bad that IF he had the keys to genesis block he would have already used them by now just to prove it to ppl.
But claiming he is Satoshi was never about anything other than pumping a fork of a fork scam BSV.

>> No.13332662

>>13332642
it does tho satoshi told everyone repeatedly never to delete wallets ever even if there is nothing on them never lose your private keys! he would have multiple backups especially of the genesis key which is so important as it is part of the codebase and the ultimate governance whip. no.
doesn't sign when he gains much and loses nothing with signing -> can't sign (occams razor bitch)
can't sign -> he never had the keys
he never had the keys -> he can't possibly be satoshi
it's not hard it's just logic.

>> No.13332697

>>13332662
Read my post again.

>> No.13332707

>>13332697
sorry i thought you were ironic or quoting my mistake!

>> No.13332927

>>13332605

Wrong, you don't know what you're talking about do you lol

>> No.13332928

>>13332707
Oh look it's the "Craig Wright should just sign with a key there is no reason he shouldn't" namefag

>> No.13332939

>>13332928
>Craig Wright should just sign with a key there is no reason he shouldn't
This.

>> No.13333000
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13333000

Doesn't matter if he is Satoj or not as long as he delivers.

>> No.13333096

>>13332356
dude so are YOU

>> No.13333173

>>13332127
>coming to a conclusion on the personality of a man from a whitepaper and less than a hundred forum posts
Wew lad. I’m not even a CW shill, but you’re retarded, sir.

>> No.13333527

>>13332229
so why hasnt gavin said anything to this point?