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Say good night, Wagies, and say hello to the future of warehouse labor. That's right, your replacement is here, and it's got a THICC booty to throw around!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iV_hB08Uns

>> No.13158533
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>>13158529
Here's a closer view
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>> No.13158541

I drive the semi that transports those packages

I'm 24 and I'll bet my eternal soul my job never get automated in my lifetime

>> No.13158551

>>13158529
The entire Yang Gang will be buying these. I wish Boston Dynamics would go public and let people invest in their science.

FUCK warehouse wagies. They should have learned to Code like the real intellectuals do.

>> No.13158556

Theyre so slow. This will never catch on.

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>>13158541
>I'm 24 and I'll bet my eternal soul my job never get automated in my lifetime
Ohhhhh sweetie. Sweetie. Oh no.

>> No.13158569

She cute

>> No.13158582

>>13158541
The semi drives itself now

>> No.13158585

>>13158556
1. It's nearly fast as a human being, and can improve.
2. It can work constantly, 24/7 with no breaks.
3. Cheaper, more efficient in the long run than hiring people.

It's objectively going to happen, and it's happening because it's the more economic option in the long run. It's 100% objectively guaranteed to happen within a few years.

>> No.13158586

>>13158529
>>13158533
>>13158551
>>13158567
https://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/industrial-robots/robotic-dreams-robotic-realities

>> No.13158590

>>13158541
Your job is probably going to be the first

>> No.13158594
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>>13158541

This

The only people who actually think robots are going to eliminate the workforce are people are trust fund babies and podcast hosts who've never worked a labor job in their entire life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzlsvFN_5HI

>> No.13158597

>>13158569
*sucks air through teeth*
Damnwhereshekeepallthatbootydoeshecu

>> No.13158624

>>13158594
>The only people who actually think robots are going to eliminate the workforce are people are trust fund babies and podcast hosts who've never worked a labor job in their entire life
Kek. Imagine being this fucking delusional. It's already being done. There is a multi-trillion dollar global profit incentive for these technologies, and they are already existing and in development.

I love the amount of COPE from people resisting the future. It's ok, you can just wait and watch as it becomes the new paradigm and billions of people are put out of work over the next century.

>> No.13158629

>>13158585
>3. Cheaper, more efficient in the long run than hiring people.
There is no way that robot is currently more cost effective over its lifetime than a 3rd world human worker.

>> No.13158646

>>13158624

>being this underage

People have been saying the same crap you are since the late 70's - early 80's, kid. Look how much technology has improved in the last decade and compare the labor situation now to 2009.

>> No.13158655

>>13158529
>stacking that shit so high

not a good idea, will fall over and then dumb robot has to pick it up again.

t. warehouse worker

>> No.13158662

>>13158585
>It's objectively going to happen, and it's happening because it's the more economic option in the long run. It's 100% objectively guaranteed to happen within a few years.

Watched the video. I would love to be the one guy to be in control over all of these machines for maintenance. It legit looks like a fun job and it replaces so many low IQ people.

>> No.13158666

>>13158529
good thing I didn't dedicate my life to lifting boxes and learned something useful

>> No.13158667

>>13158529
holy fuck can you imagine the aroma with your nose in that caboose

>> No.13158673

>>13158629
>when you thought robots would make labor so redundant we could all just live in hedonistic bliss
>in actuality it's created a world where human labor is so cheap that as long as the government isn't regulating it or giving people money to live (and they won't, as they're also run by business) you will compete for jobs with low pay and low quality of life.

>> No.13158680

>>13158662
>tfw high IQ but not high enough to code

>> No.13158697

>>13158673
thats where UBI comes in.

>> No.13158700

>>13158529

OP thinks all corporations have a million + dollars for a robot replacement and plus the engineer to code the robot and fix / replace parts of the robot if it ever malfunctions.

OP is fucking stupid and didn't think this post through.

>> No.13158706

>>13158697

UBI will never happen either.

>> No.13158714
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>>13158529
f off I need this job

> muh memeatlas

>> No.13158721

>>13158541
I work for DOD project that is doing exactly that. Sorry dude.

>> No.13158742

>>13158706

It will happen and you will be the guy that say's "WTF I LOVE UBI NOW!"

>> No.13158753

>>13158529
Slow as shit, but they'll presumably get faster and they can work 24 hours. Looks like it would be a whole annoying thing to get them to do anything other than moving exactly those sized boxes, 1 at a time, from one spot to another spot 10 feet away.

4/10 for now. Would not buy.

>> No.13158755

>>13158529
THE GIRL. IS. THICC.

Who the fuck designed that booty? Which autistic physicist calculated the twerk angle and booty mass, or the forces exerted on dat booty hinge?

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>>13158541
>>13158721
Just to show you proof.

>> No.13158772

>>13158714
That is one RARE WageJack

>> No.13158786

>>13158541

>I'm 24 and I'll bet my eternal soul my job never get automated in my lifetime

Yikes man....yikes..

>> No.13158797

>>13158786
I've already proven him wrong. He doesn't realize he needs to start working on his resume.

>> No.13158810

>>13158646
It's going to happen. We have the technology now. It was around in the 70s and 80s.

>> No.13158829

>>13158700
There was a time when corporations couldn't afford a computer as well

>> No.13158853

>>13158706
why wouldn't it happen?

>> No.13158858

>>13158680
>>tfw high IQ but not high enough to code

You wont be coding these machines. They use neural network AI which is a black box that is a learned behavior.

At most you will be playing this like a video game and replacing parts as they break down. I am convinced these machines can be maintained by a 100 IQ person very easily.

>> No.13158859

>>13158810

We do and there is still a labor

My job (medical lab tech) was supposed to be be fully automated 20 years ago and every place is short-staffed. Radiologists were supposed to be gone 10 years ago as well. Today? Shortage

>> No.13158865

>>13158721
>the government achieving anything

>> No.13158871
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>>13158556
>this 'car' thing is too slow, expensive and requires more maintenance, this shit will never replace horses!

>> No.13158910

>>13158529
I'm a FedEx driver and the robots are coming for my job! Actually, I'll probably be retired before these things have any noticeable effect my position

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKEp3LsYoE8

>> No.13158931

>>13158910

Cool. So now Jamal can take my package before it even reaches my doorstep

>> No.13158937

>>13158910
what if niggers crack him open?

>> No.13159000

>>13158529

Everyone is so concerned about automation using this robot and whether it'll succeed or not that nobody is asking the real question: Can I modify it to mount an onahole in its rear and program it to tweak up and down on my dick until I fill its mechanical bowels with my nut?

>> No.13159052

>>13159000
That goes without saying anon..... That goes without saying.....

>> No.13159103

>>13158541
nice bait you got going there
that being said vote Yang and secure the fucking bag already

>> No.13159121

>>13158853
Because outside of threat of armed insurrection (which won't happen, even if the government doesnt succeed in taking our guns) they don't have to, and the rules of economics only apply when us peasants try to start getting our hands on any real money.

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>>13158541

>> No.13159226

>>13158594

It's already happening faggot

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-36376966

>> No.13159273

>>13159121
so why they pay welfare and other gibs but wouldn't pay UBI which is almost the same thing?

>> No.13159278

>>13158533
>>13158529
>>13158594
what if it needs to move an irregularly shaped package?
what if it needs to move a 100kg parcel?
what if it needs to get something off the top shelf?
what if it collides with another robot and they get tangled and can't recover?
what if the bottom of a box tears open and shit falls out all over the floor?
what if the address of the parcel is handwritten written slightly illegibly?
let's be honest, running these off battery power isn't feasible, so let's say they run power cables down from the ceiling- what if these get tangled?
what if they need to do a biometrically complex movement?
The people who should be scared of automation are ironically the paper pushers at the office who think that tradie jobs are actually at risk

>> No.13159336

>>13159278
> what if it needs to move an irregularly shaped package?
> what if it needs to move a 100kg parcel?
> what if it needs to get something off the top shelf?
> what if it collides with another robot and they get tangled and can't recover?
> what if the bottom of a box tears open and shit falls out all over the floor?
> what if the address of the parcel is handwritten written slightly illegibly?

Every single one of these problems is easily solved.

> The people who should be scared of automation are ironically the paper pushers at the office who think that tradie jobs are actually at risk

Nah, physical labor is fucked. You could not come up with even one issue that isnt either already solved or solvable with extremely simple solutions.

>> No.13159352

>>13158551
Have I got some good news for you then: SFTBY
is the over the counter ticker for SoftBank, the company that now owns boston dynamics. Price is at a 2+year low

>> No.13159354
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>>13159278
>what if it needs to move an irregularly shaped package?
it automatically goes to its service booth and install the fitting adapter for it

>what if it needs to move a 100kg parcel?
calls another robot for support

>what if it needs to get something off the top shelf?
warehouse of the future is already configured that the robot can reach everything

>what if it collides with another robot and they get tangled and can't recover?
doesn't happen

>what if the bottom of a box tears open and shit falls out all over the floor?
cleaning robot gets called automatically, then cleans the work area and robots resume their work

>what if the address of the parcel is handwritten written slightly illegibly?
gets automatically send back where it came from or send to a station with 1 human worker who makes the final decision

>let's be honest, running these off battery power isn't feasible
multiple batteries that can be switched automatically at the service booth, robot switches battery when its empty and runs long enough on the fresh one til the first is charged again

>what if they need to do a biometrically complex movement?
they can do backflips nowadays

>> No.13159370

>>13158529

How to long Boston Dynamics?

>> No.13159382

>>13159354
>doesn't happen
stopped reading there. if you're going to shitpost make it either subtle or overt. none of this "i'm only pretending to be retarded " shit you got going

>> No.13159412

>>13159382
Robots have all sensors and know exactly where other robot workers are and what tasks they perform.
They wouldn‘t just run into each other.

And if it does and they are fucked for some reason than you got warranty and insurance covering that.
No matter how your try to twist it a giant warehouse could easily be operated by 3/4 people to resolve small problems while rest of the workers are robots.

>> No.13159415

>>13159354
>>let's be honest, running these off battery power isn't feasible
>multiple batteries that can be switched automatically at the service booth, robot switches battery when its empty and runs long enough on the fresh one til the first is charged again

Also robots will work in the dark using infrared so the warehouses even save on electricity

>> No.13159437

>>13159415
People in these giant warehouses already work in the dark, not all sections of the warehouse have permanent light on.
Only when people walk in there.

>> No.13159477

>>13158541
Automated Semi trucks are the first on the list LMAO

>> No.13159479

>>13159382
It seriously wouldn't happen. Its just as likely humans would do the same thing.

>> No.13159501

>>13158662
This right here is the right approach to have a job when automatization hits

>> No.13159533

>>13159336
>physical labor is fucked
if you think machinists, mechanics, various repairmen, power line guys, railroad builders, general construction, and welders will get automated more than they now, you're an idiot and have never done any work like that. only extremely simple aspects of those jobs can be automated; i.e. an auto welder that can lay a bead and roll to the side slowly, and even then that causes more problems than it fixes generally. imagine a scrap block of wood on the floor- the worker steps over it or kicks it to the side, while the robot gets stuck on it and malfunctions, causing thousands of dollars worth of problems. Just the other day on /diy/, someone posted photos of 3 feet of weld gone wrong because an autowelder's nozzle got jammed, and it took human workers a whole day to fix it. this can be improved upon, sure, but it's this difficult just to automate literally the simplest task on the job.

>> No.13159543

>>13158594
take a look at these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf7IEVTDjng
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRj34o4hN4I

>> No.13159545

also, botting is against the rules and you WILL get banned

>> No.13159549

>>13159533
The point is a job that takes many people now will take less people in the future.

>> No.13159555
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>>13158762
>drives on open land
>in hostile lands
>pedestrians can be run over
>Truck so big anything can be run over
The roomba made housewives a thing of the past

>> No.13159578

>>13158529
Another thing worth mentioning about this is that automation solves a hell of a lot of problems from a political and social standpoint. Building robots and advancing automation is infinitely more effective than gunning down a bunch of innocent people in a church for example. If you want to deal with immigration then the robots completely destroy a need for them as well. It makes it super hard to deal with on any political platform pushing for diversity. Sub 90 IQ humans will be flushed out by natural causes as these machines completely make them redundant.

And when push comes to shove, the robots can be used as an infinite army to eradicate any sub 90 IQ uprising. And anyone who doesn't like it gets added to the list of people who will be targeted by the same machines. Pol doesn't need national socialism, just need a bunch of people building robots and making the technology available to everyone, not just corporations and the wealthy.

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>>13159278
excuse me

>> No.13159724

This robot is slow as fuck. It's A LOT cheaper to hire 5 new americans than spending money on this piece of shit. I have to agree with >>13158594 the only people who believe in LE AUTOMATION meme are retarded neets who never set their foot in a warehouse or any real job.
t. warehouse manager

>> No.13159749

>>13159724
>This robot is slow as fuck.

It works 24/7 with no breaks.

>> No.13159764

>>13158529
I can build a pallet faster than this on hour 7 on day 5 of my work week when i am exhausted. They are still a long ways off

>> No.13159767

>>13158541
Too obvious bait.

>> No.13159780

>>13159724
5 new Americans could steal from you, they will take unnecessary long breaks, they will get sick, they will need vacation, they will take smoke breaks, they will sabotage your business if they don't like you etc.

a Robot isn't just automated work, it also removes risk from your business and makes it more profitable.

>> No.13159792

>>13159764
you need to sleep, eat,drink, shit
the robot never stops.
it also costs less than your tired ass.

>> No.13159834

>>13159749
Even then it's still slow as fuck. It took 10 minutes to stack that pallet, whereas 1 human will do the same job in 2 minutes. So in the end it works 3 times longer at 1/5 the speed, which means it's efficiency is ~60% of a human.
>>13159780
>durr I don't know what CCTV is HURRRRR
>what are interviews DURRR
>OMG background checks? what are those?
yea neet, I get it. Work at a real job for a day, then get back to us with your valuable opinion.

>> No.13159835

yup it's over for the vast majority of the warehouse wagie workforce. They'll keep a 1 or 2 around though to hit the robots with a broom when they start malfunctioning.

>> No.13159856

>>13159834
they can run more than one of these at a time, you know this right? Also they don't have to pay the robot overtime, or give them any kind of break whatsoever.

>> No.13159886

>>13159856
They're giving out these robots for free right? Electricity is free too right?

>> No.13159901

warehouse jobs are safe for at least another 20 years minimum. it won't affect anyone working currently.
single sku is partly automated already, like the coke warehouse. but multi-sku is a meme, robots need to be adopted, and then the entire supply chain needs to be redesigned to be robot friendly.

>> No.13159978

>>13159886
what happens to the price of technology as time goes by? surely it increases, anon.

Give it a couple years and the cost of these will be low enough to justify running a whole fleet of them.

>> No.13160015

>>13159834
>durr I don't know what CCTV is HURRRRR
you need a guy watching this shit to figure out that they sabotage your business or don't work right which means higher costs for you.

>what are interviews DURRR
with a Robot you dont even need interviews. so HR is obsolete.

>OMG background checks? what are those?
a waste of time, a Robot never needs background checks.

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people that think automation is a meme, or impossible, etc are so fucking stupid its incredibly. Reminder - The first ever flight was only 116 years ago. The first iPhone was released only 12 years ago. Within a decade, robots such as Baxter will be perfected and jobs like what is in the video will be gone.

>> No.13160087

>>13159978
>couple years
it hasn't even reached mass production stage yet, you dope. you'll need to find a manufacturer, probably out of china first

>As bill of materials is between 10,000–100,000 USD, there is really high tech inside. Low estimate if the most expensive components are off the shelf, high estimate if everything is custom except things Boston Dynamics can't make inside.
>It would be also a bad purchase if you hope just to buy it and play fetch. Demos are carefully staged, and probably these robots can't work in real environment without a team of engineers able to program and maintain it.
>If it ever becomes a product, it will likely cost more than 100,000USD each, considering how much similar robots are priced.
>Perhaps after 2–5 years of first market entry, they will drop in price, with some smaller versions costing around 10,000USD.
>Though is highly unlikely these robots will be ever sold by Boston Dynamics, it is a research center, not a factory. So it will likely be mass produced and sold by another company, which has greatly paid for the intellectual property.

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>$50k per robot
>robot breaks down
>no trained mechanic available for months
>that will be $20k plus tip

>> No.13160133

>>13158853
Jews and Boomers.

>> No.13160169

>>13160105
>he doesn't know about RaaS (Robot as a Service)

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>>13160067
Also not to mention that a robot does not get sick, does not take breaks, does not make mistakes, doesnt need time off, does quit, etc and on top of that costs the employer nothing in terms of government employee premiums like unemployment services

1 robot can work the same as 3 employees in a day (3x8 vs 24 hrs). Baxter, for example, is about 25k usd. If it woks at only 1/10th the speed of a human, 3 robots = 1 person.
75k to replace 1 person. After that savings is given back you have free labour.

>> No.13160357

>>13158551
i hope waging dies. then UBI will have to be implemented or else there will be french revolution 2.0. except in the US with automatic weapons.

>> No.13160419

>>13160087
This is a good post. The robots need a lot of work, and the amount of investment required to replace a standard warehouse worker with a terminator probably won't even be worth it, given how much adaptability a warehouse jerk needs (surprisingly), when there's cheaper solutions (conveyors, etc) that reduce payroll without a $100k+ per unit price tag.

>> No.13160441

>>13159555
you don't understand how hard it is for autonomous vehicles off road. If it can drive safely with no roads, it can do anything. Yes, it will stop for pedestrians. Truck is smaller than your average 18 wheeler.

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>>13159545

>> No.13160502

>>13160419
>>13160087
in the future you don't own the robot, you rent it via smart contract.

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I would cpu mine graft on all of them.

>> No.13161334

>>13159533
Even if you are correct, everyone will run to those fields and they will be paying third world wages in a few years

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>>13158541
>I'll bet my eternal soul

Done and done. See you in hell.

>> No.13161370

>>13158529
combine with this and you only need like 3 people working at the warehouse. 2 robot managers and repairman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLVCGEmkJs0

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>>13161370
>this is the intended environment of the wagecage
That'll be our generation's steampunk, won't it? A future that never quite came to pass.

>> No.13162002

>>13159578
Putting it like that, this is probably for the very best in humanity's overall evolution. Low IQ genes need to be eradicated ASAP. I've always thought we should just offer them some UBI equivalent in exchange for voluntary sterilization.

>> No.13162021

>>13159834
I mean, you don't have to pay the robot, you don't have to give the robot any time off, ever, you don't have to interact with the robot on a personal basis, you barely have to manage it except from a technical perspective, you don't have to worry about it getting injured, needing leave, etc. etc. etc. The simplification of the process alone would have me considering how to optimize a warehouse model to take full advantage of automation at the very least.

>> No.13162102

>>13158541
>he doesn't know Walmart is building driver-less trucks already.
Truck drivers won't exist anymore in 10-15 years tops.

>> No.13162122

>>13161447
how to long natsoc/historicism?!

>> No.13162316

>>13158541
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnkUO4EDhbw

the only thing standing between you and unemployment is writing the regulqtion, which is under the way, the tech is here already

>> No.13162455

>>13158594
>>13159278
>>13159724
>>13159901

I'm not really surprised palet packers and warehouse prison guards can't see further than dick
We won't go from no automation to zero humans in one swoop.On ypur level, of course you don't see everyone terminated all at once . What you don't see is permanent positions which aren't renwed after retirement/termination, temp contractors volume sliced , etc... You guys already process 5-10 times more volume than warehouse workers in the 70s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udr0OOxmPbc
this is not some startup or a university showing their new shiny toy.this is DB Schenker, a global logistics heavyweight, it's a fully operating plant processing 40k items a day with a 10th of the workforce required for that volume without robotic infrastructure

Automation is not some pie-in-the-sky will it happen or not. it's here already, it's been here for a while, and its not stopping anytime soon, you just don't have the perspective

t.EMEA supply chain director
every year when preparing budgets we base projected workforce on current available systems,
it's not a matter of "what if [insert specific situation]" humans are only doing what robots can't adress, and year after year, developments eliminates new areas that require humans
it's litteraly trouble shooting, and humans are a patch, not the mainframe

>> No.13162514

>>13160173
>does not make mistakes

They will make mistakes from bad AI, misaligment, and malfunctioning sensors.

>doesnt need time off

Complicated machines need periodic maintenance.

>> No.13162601

>>13158629
"currently"

These types of technologies get better and better, sometimes faster and faster, which is essentially exponential growth in efficiency.

Look at solar power. That shit was exponential growth starting from a very small base so it got dismissed for the longest time. But the fact that improved faster and faster meant it took very little time at all in the grand scheme of things to compete with coal.

>> No.13162607

>>13159901
>warehouse jobs are safe for at least another 20 years minimum.
"Coal power is safe for at least another 20 years minimum"

>> No.13162613

>>13162514
>They will make mistakes from bad AI, misaligment, and malfunctioning sensors.
These things improve over time.

Good ai can probably make up for the other things you mentioned.

>> No.13162642

> The only people who actually think robots are going to eliminate the workforce are people are trust fund babies and podcast hosts who've never worked a labor job in their entire life

eh I worked a summer at a food factory about ~7 years ago (surprisingly mostly boomers doing the temp jobs), basically doing pallet packing or moving boxes from one ballet to another, loading machines with new labels or boxes, and making sure they were working correctly (label machine applying correctly, boxes taped correctly, weighed correctly, etc). Maintenance people will not be out of a job until AI progresses far further than it is today though but a lot of those general temp jobs can be automated away.

Sure shit goes wrong all the time at these factories, machines fuck up constantly but it's all solvable problems. I estimated this factory spent roughly $4.2 million a year on no skill temp workers like me, and at least 90% of the positions could be automated away. Instead of having 3-5 general temp people per production line they could cut it down to 1 person maintaining 3-5 lines. That's a potential ~$3.8 million in savings every year if they made the transition. Not sure how much these kinds of automated machines will cost but at some point the price will be worthwhile and those jobs will be gone.

>> No.13162658

>>13162514
>Complicated machines need periodic maintenance
Will get better over time.

>> No.13162671

>>13162316
Don't these things use other kind of camera systems like infared or something that would be more useful than a normal camera? I remember a self driving car got in a accident a while back by driving into the side of a semi whose white side blended in with the bright sky that day and it just crashed into, the first thing I thought was "why the fuck did it not also have an infared camera?"

>> No.13162713

>>13162671
you are right
there are a lot of different ways to go about it, using different systems alone or in combination, also a plant is a controlled environement and allows much more options than systems for driverless vehicles on the road
infrared, motion sensors, mainfraime grid management (individual robots don't " see" or detect anything, tehre are no sensors, but a central software that manages moving parts so they dont collide)
there are a lot of different systems
The biggest push right now is for systems that don't require cameras, because that means outside of maintenance, operations can run in the dark, which is millions saved in energy costs alone

>> No.13162714

>>13162613

Look at the Boeing fiasco. The engineers didn't even have the common sense to see why constantly pointing the airplane's nose downward would be a bad idea. If the best engineers of today can't even create simple automated systems that don't fail catastrophically in stupid ways, how would they even be able to create more sophisticated systems?

>> No.13162718

>>13162713
pretty sure the army of robots is still going to require the electric energy saved by keeping the lights of

>> No.13162724

>>13162714
>>13162714
>best engineers of today
>Boeing

Nope

The best engineering students go where the money is

Somehow I doubt the field of aviation engineering or whatever it's called was ever paying better than others for any decent amount of time

That whole industry's engineers are probably quite mediocre

>> No.13162731

>>13159764
If you work 8 hours a day, a robot process more than you in 24 hour as soon as it reaches 34% percent of your speed
the robot is expensive, but on top of what >>13159792 said, it deosn't represent any social security, unemployment, etc costs built in your salary
Plus workers are a fixed cost, robots can be files as deprecitaing assets, and this depreciations can be deducted from EBITDA (it's the A for amortization)

>> No.13162745

>>13162718
of course, but tight now we have both costs robots+lights, beacause although robots handle 70-80% of volume, the do so in an environment which must be suitable to humans

>> No.13162812

>>13158541
transporting packages between the warehouses on short distances will eventually become fully automated

>> No.13162961

>>13159278
Cars will never replace horses.
What if it runs out of fuel? Can it graze onto some hay and keep going?
What if it gets offroad? Can it jump over logs and pits and stones?
Can they automatically avoid obstacles?
What if 2 cars crash? Ppl will be injured in a metal box.

Thing is, warehouse of the future may not replicate that of today. Today they are tailored for ppl, tomorrow they will be comfy for machines

>> No.13163053

>>13158541
Need not worry. Basic income will be adopted.


>>13158529

>> No.13164118

>>13158662
Smart anon. This guy understands the job automation "issue".
Eliminate the workforce? Absolutely not. Greatly reduce it by automating very redundant jobs? DEFINITELY.

>> No.13164141

>>13158680
>high IQ
>can't code
Pick one brainlet

>> No.13164145

>>13158529
Why does it need to have such sexualised movements?

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>>13159724

>new americans

>> No.13164227

>>13160067
>>13160173

it it makes shitskins stop coming in its a good thing

>> No.13164241

>>13162455

automation replacing workers is a meme. the tractor displaced millions of workers and things only got better

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>>13164227
Said the shitskin

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fucking lulz at everybody seeing how sexy these robots are

>> No.13164401

>>13162714
>>13162724
You should lookup who actually wrote that Boeing software and where. Hint: it wasn't Seattle.

>> No.13164462

>>13162714
being this bluepilled
it was not fiasco but a purpose
in the future (or probably happening even now) glowniggers will threaten politicians to off them on flight

>> No.13164523

>>13158594
>The only people who actually think self operating looms are going to eliminate textile workers are aristocrats and businessmen who have never worked a labor job in their entire life

>> No.13164560

>>13159856
not to mention no unions, lower safety barriers, no insurance, no hazard insurance, and subtract the people required to administer such aspects, less middle management, less supervisors, less security, less shrink, no attrition rate, more effective active worker rate, less need for workforce management, less need for payroll, less climate control

>> No.13164653

>>13162642
This was me at a distribution warehouse. MOST of the positions could easily be automated and I knew days were numbered there. In fact, used to be a fella at the end of each line that would wrap each pallet. Within the 6 months I worked there, every single one of these guys was replaced by an automated wrapping system with a bunch of cameras. The guys they replaced were only paid 8/hr. Must have been quite the savings for it to be worth it.

>> No.13164718

>>13159724
>this windows 95 computer is slow as fuck, no way it will ever replace office workers
>these automatic arms are slow as fuck, no way they will ever replace a floor full of assembly line workers
>this cotton gin is slow as fuck, no way it will ever replace a field full of niggers
this is how retarded you sound

>> No.13164743

>>13159533
Dubs of truth. People here dont realize the amount of problem solving that takes place in even a warehouse workers brain and how difficult it is to perform that in a robot.

>> No.13164765

>>13159479
Humans are actually more likely to bump into each other than a system of robot workers specifically designed to avoid collisions, this should be obvious

>> No.13164816

>>13164718
> calculator /PC wont replace mathematicians
just like niggers went off field and automotive industry boomed
imo we will see such middle ground result
low level jobs will be replaced
few higher tier occupations will emerge

>> No.13165238

>>13158673
Its crazy how cheap labor is. With no minimum wage laws most mcjobs would be paying something like 3-5 dollars an hour in the US. Huge surplus of workers mostly due to vast numbers immigration (much bigger than officially stated).

>> No.13165288

>>13165238
people in their ivory towers think automation is the be all and end all.
those with some experience in blue collar know that there in fact, many industries which would not exist without cheap human labour

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>>13165288
Things are not much different now than they were then.

>> No.13165457

>>13159278
cope

>> No.13165663

Can't wait till McDonalds and Burger King start putting these their restaurants.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVGd6B1nhlw

>> No.13165690

>>13158529

Those shits take forever to move a few boxes, wtf?

>> No.13165725

>>13160357
T. Neet living with mommy who rages when he sees well dressed people driving nice cars and riding premium cunt

>> No.13165929

>>13158829
Afford =/= Need

>> No.13165939

vote yang and buy btc so we can escape this wage hell

>> No.13166869

>>13158541
>wat is TSLA

Dude. Come on

>> No.13166880

>>13158700
>believes there will be anything left other than multi-billion megacorps in the years to come

This thread is either full of chum or full of chumps

>> No.13166913

>>13159354
Pretty much this. "Robot Caretaker/Supervisor" is the job of the future... Until the moment robots become more expensive than humans and we go full Elysium with robots becoming the supervisors

>> No.13166914

>>13158541
jesus man, you're looking at 10 years, 20 years tops, before the job is completely dead.

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>>13158697
>believing ubi will ever happen

>> No.13167091

>>13159273
UBI is not going to happen. Western nations are in a huge amount of debt, and UBI would almost certainly cause a catastrophic rise in debt, followed by infaltion and recession.

Automation has dramatically increased working conditions and quality of life in the past, and now it doesn't. This is because our governments are now so large, that any rise in technological and economic productivity is immediately absorded by the state and wasted.

You don't need UBI, you just need to stop printing money and stop having the government steal your wealth. Just think about what percentage of the money you earn is being wasted by the state.

>> No.13167102

>>13158700
They'll just get more cheap loans and then have the engineers as Indians.

The goal of all this is to kill and eradicate as many whites as possible, not being able to afford some robots won't stop them

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>>13166940
It has to if we can ever expect to colonize other planets, we can't be stuck expecting human labor to lift of us and us wealth explodes exponentially with robots increasing workloads humans could never have hoped of achieving the old way, we will need to find a way to work a system of taking the increased productivity and making sure it benefits someone, because we'll get to the point where you'll have billion robots say just excavating mines across 3 different planets with zero human involvement, who is supposed to take all that cash? Like 1000 different people? An industry that would make 10x what every combined industry on the planet today would make just take the money and only benefit certain people while everyone else just looks and stares and twiddles their thumbs? When you have the amount of productivity going on with that kind of unbalance of wealth vs human population it becomes obvious that the excess wealth needs to be used to benefit humans or else robots are just working for themselves, it makes no sense not applying some kind of system that takes from robots work and gives it to humans, it's the natural progression of human evolution into working for ourselves to having things work for us, not to mention by then genetic engineering will have hopefully turned most of the human race in non-nog give me dats that can actually use that wealth beneficially as opposed to just dying in crack dens like sub-humans

>> No.13167243

>>13167147
All you need to do is to stop having the government steal your wealth. People are paying for $50,000 dollar missiles just so some ZOGbot can blow up shit, or having to pay for some fat greedy nigger to push out their 4th kid.

>> No.13167267

>>13167243
Corruption exists, things are bad, are we just supposed to not dream about where we need to be in the future because of that? We either tell ourselves we're to corrupt and fucked as a species to ever hope for progress and the ability to shoot for the stars, or we say fuck it and try anyway and try and have some hope for the future, maybe by then we won't be paying for $50,000 dollar missles, have some fucking hope.

>> No.13167289

>>13167267
You're talking about stealing other people's money, I'm talking about not stealing other people's money

>> No.13167308

>>13167289
What is considered other people's money though if say, some people make robots that mine caves in Mars, and 200 years later they are still mining and all the humans who made them are dead? You don't think in long term, you don't think in terms of the collective, and that kind of thinking is fucking us over, we need to let get of just our own worries and how we see things in terms of "don't take my stuff" and think in terms of "how is the human race going to get by, grow and expand into the future?"

>> No.13167401

>>13167308
The human race is going to get by and respecting people's rights and not by stealing people's money

>> No.13167510

>>13158567
it literally says
>based autonomous driving solutions
it's ogre

>> No.13167626

>>13167401
Maybe if you want to live in the 1900s for the next thousand years

>> No.13167642

>>13167626
which isn't going to work by the way because we've probably fucked the planet to the point where our only option is to try to accelerate forward in order to build the tech/leave the planet and try to fix the mess in contrast to going back and hope we get good at preservation, and we won't as long as chinks and niggers exist, only genetic engineering could change that burden into an asset and only increased productivity will change the human race on that scale and only UBI will work to achieve the grand scale with the aid of automation, it's all a giant loop of moving forward so we can save ourselves.

>> No.13167656

>>13167642
that said we're in the worst position to implement it now, countries that actually have their shit together like Japan with tons of savings on average per family is in a way better position, us with boomers saving jack shit are in the worst possible position, but still I think we have to go for it anyway, because the opposite choice is just staying as we are and just killing ourselves in smog, garbage and natural disasters with no alternative tech to save us

>> No.13167667

>>13158541
LEARN TO CODE

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>>13167656
You guys on /biz/ should know better than anyone that the value of money and what is defined as theft is relative, I keep thinking this thread is on /sci/ so I'm arguing with people trying hard to make it on their own, but it's a very in the moment method of thinking that's not doing anyone else any favors, or even you were you to live beyond 100 years, which yeah you probably won't but you should still guide your decisions as if you did

>> No.13167698

Remember robots dont pay taxes this shit aint gonna fly

>> No.13168174

>>13167698
ever heard of Smart Contracts, TEEs, IoT?
Robots will absolutely pay taxes.

>> No.13168223

>>13162658

>Will get better over time.

So we'll suddenly invent a perpetual motion machine and start turning lead into gold efficiently? Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about, because eliminating the need for maintenance for complex machines is even harder task.

>> No.13168238

>>13162745

You should take in to account that eventually you'll be taxed for robot labor the same as you now get taxed for human labor.

This is bound to happen.

>> No.13168260

>>13164401

Then imagine who is going to write the software for those robots. Hint: it won't be Seattle.

>> No.13168286

>>13165349

>Believes that the pyramids were built by some retarded slave niggers

Bad example.

>> No.13168291

>>13158551
>85 IQ pajeets working a literal bug person job
>intellectuals

>> No.13168314

>>13168174

>Robots start paying taxes for work, just like how humans have to

Suddenly robots don't seem so lucrative anymore.

>> No.13168377

>>13168314
the robot is still hundreds of times more efficient than a human and still extremely profitable.

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>>13159103

>> No.13168394

>literal retards keep saying secure a bag

>> No.13168484

>>13159555

this is wrong, old woman should be most killed

>> No.13168521

>>13167698
cars don't pay taxes either, right?

>> No.13168537

>>13159000
it's got a sucky vacc mouth too

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13168541

Fuck robots, when do we get sick-ass exoskeletons?

>> No.13168646

>>13158680
>>13164141
You don't need a high IQ to code. Why would any intellectual person be attracted to typing tedious shit into a computer all day long?

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>>13159000