Imagine people falling for this alt right MLM scam in 2019

[Anonymous No.12971218]

[Anonymous No.12971234]

>>12971218
Lol look at this poorfag cope. Sorry Ranjesh but prices ain't going down for you.

[Anonymous No.12971257]

>>12971218
>>12971234
Where do we buy this? Seriously, I can't find out.

[Anonymous No.12971300]

>>12971257
https://opensea.io/assets/azimuthpoints

[Anonymous No.12971334]

>>12971218
is scam?
i thought was good coin sir

[Anonymous No.12971392]

>>12971300
What kind of 4th dimentional assets am i looking at?

[Anonymous No.12971455]

>>12971392
https://urbit.org/primer/

[Anonymous No.12971475]

https://youtu.be/M04AKTCDavc

[Anonymous No.12971539]

[Anonymous No.12971629]

this looks like shit. a non-crypto start-up looking to do something similar to this but without a useless token is https://inrupt.com/

[Anonymous No.12971649]

>>12971629
Inrupt is an API gateway that Urbit has as a feature. Unironically stay forever poor.

[Anonymous No.12971651]

>>12971300
FUCK YES, thank you man. I've been waiting for this for at least a year.

Also lol at you faggots thinking the most important intellectual and technological achievement of one of the most important (though unintentional) architect of the alt-right, developed over fucking 18 years or something, is a scam.

[Anonymous No.12971657]

>>12971475
>>12971455
4 billion planets circulating supply. Each star, which i guess is a planet, is auctioning off for $5k. $5000 × 4 billion =$20 trillion. Why would anyone invest in something with a market cap this high already?

[Anonymous No.12971668]

>>12971651
Be wary of street shitters listing planets at star prices. Also if you don't get the $5k star then contact Jeremy directly, don't buy that 50 ETH one.

https://jeremytunnell.com/2019/02/07/i-have-urbit-stars-for-sale/

[Anonymous No.12971678]

>>12971455
Exchanging one scam for another

top kek

[Anonymous No.12971680]

>>12971657
Stars are not planets, retard. Stars spawn planets. There are 65k stars max. I recommend you spend at least 2 weeks reading up on this project before you say something retarded like that again.

[Anonymous No.12971696]

>>12971680
and why would someone use those "stars"?

remember second life?

[Anonymous No.12971710]

>>12971680
You seem like you're well read about Urbit. Do you have any concerns about Curtis's departure? Or is Urbit developed well enough at this point that you're confident it will grow of its accord now, without his involvement? I have heard a rumor that the reason for his resignation was an irreconcilable difference with the VC backers and Thiel.

[Anonymous No.12971733]

>>12971710
He's gone? Welp. That's it then. This is now a scam like Cardano.

[Anonymous No.12971754]

>>12971733
Maybe read his own reasons for the resignation instead of acting like a little shit.

[Anonymous No.12971759]

>>12971710
It's actually a good thing that he left. People have been avoiding Urbit like the plague because of his reputation. Galen is more than qualified to run the show from here. He's also decided to change a lot of the weird ass nomenclature that Curtis made for things.

This is my second time hearing this rumor about Yarvin and Thiel. Where has this been circulating?

>>12971680
Read into the project. Stars are infrastructure nodes on this network.

[Anonymous No.12972022]

>>12971680
shut the fuck up you scamming nigger idiot

[Anonymous No.12972030]

lmfao
>MUH DIGITAL REAL ESTATE!

[Anonymous No.12972063]

>>12972022
>>12972030
Imagine missing one of the greatest moon missions of all time, a technology more groundbreaking than Bitcoin and Ethereum. And you call it a scam. Just lol.

[Anonymous No.12972124]

>>12972063
Most people don't have 5k to throw at muh digital land though

[Anonymous No.12972194]

>>12972124
As it should be. Stars and Galaxies are for white men, not street shitters.

[Anonymous No.12972213]

>>12972194
Good luck dumping your bags on someone then

[Anonymous No.12972234]

>>12972213
Ty sir.

[Anonymous No.12972252]

>>12972194
Is this similar to skycoin just more indepth? Skycoins produce coinhours. They are both trying to make the new internet yes? We should hold both then.

[Anonymous No.12972265]

>>12971218
Blood and virtual soil!

[Anonymous No.12972301]

>>12972124

This is why urbit will ultimately fail in the end sadly

Unless there's a steady market for stars and a years-long downward pressure so plebs can get in on it, everyones gonna feel burned since they're the chump buying planets instead of issuing them

[Anonymous No.12972349]

>>12972301
Can urbit stars/ planets not sell on an exchange with charting or high volume?

[Anonymous No.12972366]

>>12972252
This predates skycoin. To be completely honest I would not recommend anyone buy address space without doing very extensive research into it.

[Anonymous No.12972379]

>>12972349
They're trading on an exchange right now, with very low volume. These are not fungible assets and are not intended to change hands often.

[Anonymous No.12972399]

Is this open source?

[Anonymous No.12972400]

>>12972366
Why? Is it not as simple as buying an asset, waiting for it to gain value, tgen selling it for 100x original purchase price in an auction?

[Anonymous No.12972472]

>>12972400
This project is 17 years in the making and is very difficult to understand. I have been reading about it daily for the last 8 months and I still don't know shit. I cannot in good faith advise anyone to blindly throw $5k into it.

[Anonymous No.12972518]

>>12972379

65k stars is a lot, and most of them will be unlocked in the next ~4 years from what I remember, so I expect a decent amount of inflation just from galaxy owners and people who bought too many stars (of which I know a few people, including the guy who introduced me to urbit). I don't see anyone spending more than $10k for one if/until it sees actual use. Hoping to see some below $750 or so in the next year

[Anonymous No.12972574]

>>12972518
Bruh if they ever get that low I'm buying like 10 more of them. A handful of fatfingered spergs pumped the price on OpenSea.

[Anonymous No.12972638]

>>12972518
I'm letting you know now though that 2018 galaxy buyers paid $1M each, although their expected returns are not based just on the stars they can spawn.

[Anonymous No.12972736]

rundown on this project? looked into it a year ago but their youtube videos don't explain anything

[Anonymous No.12972752]

>>12972736
nvm i see they've redesigned their website and have included a primer

[Anonymous No.12972841]

holy fuck this is beautiful. 5k for personal server seems a little steep though will look into it further thanks op

[Anonymous No.12972867]

>>12972841
End user addresses are much cheaper. It's going to be a few years before this becomes usable for normies though.

[Anonymous No.12972880]

>>12972867
You can buy a planet for .25 ETH on urbit.live but you're probably going to want to host it on a cloud service and will eventually be paying subscription to infrastructure nodes for packet routing, peer discovery, updates etc

[Anonymous No.12972903]

this is where the 'jobs' of the future will be. Monetization of data is now doable due to dlt and smart contracts, but something like urbit makes it a definite reality. Just like how 200 years ago no one could've dreamt that you can make a living off livestreaming games, decades from now you could earn UBI levels of income by monetizing your personal, financial and maybe even biological data

your personal server becomes effectively a literal planet waiting to be mined.

[Anonymous No.12972934]

and all these data will become food for the surveillance system that the entire tech industry is currently setting the foundation for - digitization of economies through sc and dlt, algorithmic data analysis (brain), computer vision and navigation (eyes), and robotics (body)

[Anonymous No.12973182]

bingo

[Anonymous No.12973256]

>tfw can't figure out if this is some insane, astrology cult shit or just 30 years ahead of its time

[Anonymous No.12973276]

I read their website and I still have no idea what it does that's so revolutionary. And it reads like some Scientology recruitment ad or something

[Anonymous No.12973283]

>>12973256
¿Porque no los dos?

[Anonymous No.12973293]

>>12973276
Maybe read into it a bit more than just the website? There are fucking endless resources on this.

[Anonymous No.12973316]

>>12973276
it's like a mesh between database systems and personal computers, but decentralized. Like a decentralized world computer, with its own OS, SSD, apps, etc. Theres still a fair bit I need to digest but so far it feels like something that fits right into the 4thIR 'data is the new oil' meme

[Anonymous No.12973354]

>>12973276
>>12973256
it's not 'revolutionary', just a different way of doing things. On a different timeline this could've been how the first computers would've looked like

[Anonymous No.12973355]

>>12971759
>Where has this been circulating?
Silicon Valley.
I think it would probably be smart for any anons wanting to buy this to wait a couple months for FOMO from the launch of the Azimuth market to subside. As everyone has pointed out, it will take years for Urbit to get to a point where it can reach mainstream adoption (if ever) and supply will continue unlocking. It's not like Urbit has tons of interest right now outside of NRx circles, true computer geeks, and more rarified crypto speculators. I genuinely want this to suceed tho. Somebody spin up a star for the real /biz/heads to migrate to Urbit..

[Anonymous No.12973417]

>>12973355
>It's not like Urbit has tons of interest right now outside of NRx circles, true computer geeks, and more rarified crypto speculators
I definitely fall into the third category.
>Somebody spin up a star for the real /biz/heads to migrate to Urbit..
Someone on /pol/ said they would drop invites for planets when this becomes more usable. I definitely won't be touching my star until I know how to use it, might be another year or so of studying this shit.

[Anonymous No.12973989]

too poor to afford a star. Will planets appreciate in value?

[Anonymous No.12974046]

>>12971392
it's best described as reification of Jewish schizophrenia.
>>12972063
they just changed names for pr

>3. Fort allocation - digital feudalism

>Lords are only one class of fort. A fort is always an atom.
>It is classified by the size of that atom:

> >= 2^64, < 2^128 : wolf (wild fort)
> >= 2^32, < 2^64 : pawn (civil fort)
> >= 2^16, < 2^32 : lord (civil fort)
> >= 2^8, < 2^16 : earl (civil fort)
> >= 1, < 256 : duke (civil fort)
> == 0 : pope (trivial fort)

[Anonymous No.12974071]

>>12973989
Not really, unless you camp on some good names that you think will be in demand. There are going to be ways to monetize your planet but that will require extremely high IQ early on. Planets won't be considered a scarce resource for at least 50 years.

[Anonymous No.12974159]

>>12972841
>5k for personal server
You aren't buying a server, you're buying a domain.
It's almost exactly like paying for a ipfs name, if that would make sense, except instead of page in html and js everything is written in 'nook'. That's all urbit is. There's no secret. It's literally a product of an insane mind.
Nook is a language that defined '1' as false and '0' as true which is different to literally every programming language in existence. Why? Because it was designed by a schizophrenic Jew.

Urbit is what happens when you have a Jewish version of Terry Davis (TempleOS) - instead of giving his insane creation for free he's monetizing it, because of course.
Terry > Moldbug

[Anonymous No.12974200]

>>12974159
Yarvin has left the project and whatever it turns into it is now out of his hands.
>>12974046
I have no problem with digital feudalism, as long as I'm on top. Fuck normies and fuck this degenerate society.

[Anonymous No.12974215]

>>12974200
It doesn't matter that he left as he designed everything.
If people actually understood that they're literally buying a domain name for the equivalent of ipfs with state, but with an insane esoteric language nobody would look at this twice.

[Anonymous No.12974220]

>>12974215
It's an address space, that isn't a secret whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.12974230]

>>12974046
Is that greentext Curtis's original naming scheme? It's far more Moldbuggian than muh stars and planets.
>it's best described as reification of Jewish schizophrenia.
That is a good way to understand it desu. Gavin is there to put the Silicon Valley sheen of altruism onto Moldbug's little reactionary experiment against the entirety of the web as it exists today.

[Anonymous No.12974237]

I've been digging into this for about a month but my impression is that it is still a solid year away from being anything usable. In fact I think Galan said that himself during the previous meetup in SF. Also there is practically a monopoly on the stars currently for sale on opensea, so be wary of whoever is shilling it right now. Long term, the possibilities something like this presents for the future are very interesting. OP's fud is thinly veiled considering no one would have even mentioned this without his pathetic excuse for a thread. It's like being at a party and suddenly one guy is accusing everyone besides him of being a faggot. Personally I think it will be a couple years before this has any sort of traction aside from a very small cult, simply because it fundamentally shifts a lot of things the current internet takes for granted. Also Yarvin's autism is ahead of its time so Galan needs to find a way to make all this more appealing to the mainstream. Personally I very much like the idea of owning your own data and monetizing it at your discretion.

[Anonymous No.12974242]

>>12974230
Yes, the nomclature was originally far more autistic and feudal than it is now.

[Anonymous No.12974262]

>>12974159
Now I will freely admit that I don't have the IQ to really grok what Urbit is, but you're fucking retarded to think Yarvin/Moldbug can be reduced to a Jewish Terry Davis.

[Anonymous No.12974266]

>>12974242
Nomenclature*

It's obvious that neoreactionary philosophy is inherent in Urbit's design. That's part of why I like it so much.

[Anonymous No.12974271]

>>12974220
>that isn't a secret whatsoever.
Really? So why didn't you correct >>12972841 ?
>>12974230
>Is that greentext Curtis's original naming scheme
yes
https://github.com/mbrubeck/urbit/blob/master/Spec/urbit/3-intro.txt

2. Fort structure

If you are a normal user of Urbit, you are a 'lord.' The
identity of a lord is an arbitrary 32-bit atom.

For memorability, this number is mapped invertibly to a string
that looks like this (10 randomly generated examples):

@lazwik-paztid
@fimvak-givrif
@gowran-sawtol
@serzil-fibzan
@pimcon-sowces
@sawwip-febcif
@gavmop-nibcaf
@fawcid-fibmof
@dozcog-natbef
@letted-fected

This generator could probably be improved. But compare the
memorability of @gavmop-nibcaf to 164.218.21.33 - let alone
a single decimal number, like a Facebook ID.

Thus, a path in the fort @gavmop-nibcaf might be:

/@gavmop-nibcaf/usr/lib/php/doc

For casual use, we capitalize the fort: Gavmop-Nibcaf. It's a
strange name, but a name. We have lots of neurons for
remembering names. Not so many for remembering IP addresses.

Why can't you pick your own name? Because, with 32-bit global
identities, we can build a decentralized namepace. It's not
as memorable as it could be; it's not as decentralized as it
could be. But it's *adequate* on both these vertexes of Zooko's
triangle, and of course rock-solid on the third (security).

[Anonymous No.12974272]

>>12974237
>It's like being at a party and suddenly one guy is accusing everyone besides him of being a faggot.
Baby's first day on 4chan?

[Anonymous No.12974281]

>>12974271
I literally responded to him by calling it an address.

[Anonymous No.12974318]

>>12974262
>Now I will freely admit that I don't have the IQ to really grok what Urbit is
it's not complicated.
It's a server that's supposed to have all your data - ie. your pc.
Then you set access rights on different things: this data can be accessed by that program, this can written by that program, this data can be downloaded by that server, this api can be called by everyone in group x.
These servers are addressed by generated string names, which are being sold.

All these things are possible for 60 years and can be trivially done on any multiuser system.

What's complicated is the bullshit part, ie. the implementation and description. Bullshit is 99% of urbit which is why it looks so confusing.
>but you're fucking retarded to think Yarvin/Moldbug can be reduced to a Jewish Terry Davis
in the context of urbit, it's a perfect description

[Anonymous No.12974320]

One thing I'm curious about is who owns zod? Is it Tlon or Curtis? Because a couple weeks ago a whole bunch of galaxies popped up on the market, but during the meetup Galan sounded like he was distancing himself from any more sales to avoid regulatory attention for that sort of thing. He said they wouldn't even offer up the email list from previous star sales for market making purposes. So it must be some of Yarvin's that are up for sale? But in his exit post he said that all of his galaxies were locked into time released contracts? Is he dumping a bunch via proxies?

[Anonymous No.12974331]

>>12974266
Nice. A good Moldbug essay for you to read if you haven't already: https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2007/05/antisingularity/

[Anonymous No.12974334]

>>12971218
KEEK

[Anonymous No.12974338]

>>12974320
Those are Tlon's galaxies. Curtis has several thousand planets to be unlocked over the next few years but no galaxies; galaxies have governance rights that he has relinquished.

[Anonymous No.12974345]

>>12974320
Also don't expect any more star sales from Tlon. They are selling galaxies to richfags with accredited investor status now. Selling Stars is too much like an ICO.

[Anonymous No.12974350]

>>12974262
see this description from urbit primer:
>Your Azimuth identity, or planet, can launch 2^32(4 billion) child identities, or moons. That should be enough for your lights, your fridge, your 3D printer, and your swarm of farm robots. Own a factory? Sure, that too.

Sounds complicated. What it actually means is creating the equivalent of linux's group and user: eg. if you configure nginx, it's best to run it as 'www-data' user (name is arbitrary) with separate access rights, for security and maintenance.
"Azimuth identity" would be user with sudo rights.

[Anonymous No.12974368]

>>12974350
The issue is that the average person does not know anything you just fucking said. Urbit is supposed to be easy to use.

[Anonymous No.12974386]

>>12974368
>urbit
>easy to use

[Anonymous No.12974388]

>>12974318
>What's complicated is the bullshit part, ie. the implementation and description. Bullshit is 99% of urbit which is why it looks so confusing.
Right, so presumably you have some decent programming knowledge and have looked at Hoon and Nock, etc., which I don't have and haven't done, but I have trouble believing yarvin would go through all those years of inventing a new language purely for vanity's sake, without it yielding any fundamental benefits for the Urbit system that current internet architecture lacks. I have only evaluated Yarvin's work as Moldbug, i.e. his work as an uncredentialed sociopolitical historian, which has convinced me that he is at least a historical genius, in terms of inventing a theory that has shaped all of subsequent NRx thought and into which you could fold the alt-right too, and then by transitive logic have just assumed his technical work, which he has spent more time and capital on, would be equally impressive. I generally try to pay close attention to people who are demonstrably far more intelligent than the vast majority of people. And Curtis is one of those people.

[Anonymous No.12974407]

>>12974386
It should be in the next few years. The entire point is that anyone should be able to run it on AWS at some point.

[Anonymous No.12974424]

jewish scam? 1 star 5k for something not usable for decades. biz never change. will buy 1 start < 1$ in few yrs. this shit not gonna use by anone.

[Anonymous No.12974432]

>>12974424
Nice try Hanjit but work on your English. It might be overpriced but you will never, ever, EVER get a star for $1. You might get lucky and pick up a planet at that price.

[Anonymous No.12974440]

>>12971300
>https://opensea.io/assets/azimuthpoints
where did it say 5k nigga? all I see is less than 50$ offers or less some

[Anonymous No.12974441]

>>12974388
>of inventing a new language purely for vanity's sake
it depends on how you define 'vanity' but that's pretty much it. It's his perfect language that should be the basis on everything - according to him, obviously. It doesn't actually do anything better than existing solutions.
https://moronlab.blogspot.com/2010/01/nock-maxwells-equations-of-software.html
>far more intelligent than the vast majority of people
intelligent people have a tendency to overengineer just because simple solutions are boring. Urbit is the single worst instance of that I have ever seen.

[Anonymous No.12974445]

>>12974441
>basis on
of*

[Anonymous No.12974451]

>>12974440
Those are planets. Filter it by price. Don't even buy one of these if you can't tell the difference.

[Anonymous No.12974468]

>>12974451
I bought btc, eth with out knowing what the shit they do back in 2015. now does this have potential ? are this similar to crypto ? where to store them?

[Anonymous No.12974483]

>>12974451
scammer ? are you shilling this shit and trying to lure someone from biz. the higest offer for 5k bid is 10$ fuckking doller. you saying its work 5k, how?

[Anonymous No.12974484]

>>12974468
It has potential but not for at least 5-10 years. these are ERC 721 Nonfungible tokens. You own it on Ethereum (for now). They might move away from Ethereum at some point.

[Anonymous No.12974493]

>>12974483
>>12974468
I am not a scammer, I just told you not to buy one because you don't even understand what the fuck this is.

[Anonymous No.12974827]

>>12974493
So are planets like websites with domain names? Can i buy the www.ibm.com (or something like it) of planets?

[Anonymous No.12974854]

>>12974827
No. You can choose from a number of hierarchical deterministic names based on the name of the star that spawns it. A planet's name is a phoeneticized 8 digit hexadecimal.

[Anonymous No.12974861]

>>12974827
Https://Urbit.live has 10 stars to choose a planet name from.

[Anonymous No.12974888]

Fucking hell, you guys... "planets", "stars", "galaxies" -- do you realize how retarded and cult-like all of this sounds?

[Anonymous No.12974936]

>>12973354
In order to have urbit stars decentralized currencies need to exist. In order for decentralized currencies to exist you need the internet first so urbit stars definitely couldn't have been the first.

[Anonymous No.12974961]

>>12974888
Curtis Yarvin has a particular sense of humor like that.

Also, wasted trips, you brainlet.

[Anonymous No.12975010]

Why did goldbug leave

[Anonymous No.12975675]

130 IQ here.

The problem with Urbit it's that it is trying to ride the ''I will buy some planets or star in the hope to became like the people who bought bitcoin in 2008'' thing

Just tell me what are the advantages of Urbit compared to the internet thath there is heute (today)... what are they? Are there advantages?

Why someone in a not well known future should buy my personal server (star)?
For doing what that he can't do on the normal internet we have today?

[Anonymous No.12975836]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8578151

>"Urbit has a lot of odd ideas that take time to appreciate. However, if you do take the time to understand the motivation behind the design of everything from Hoon's appearance to the network protocol replacement for TCP to the vision for future social networks, you'll find some of the best and most complete computer science research done in decades in networks, systems, and functional programming. The essential idea is not an outlandish one - We need a new basis of computing and networking to build digital identities with, and 1970s system software is not up to the task."
>"It's unfortunate that ambition and a sense of humor can be misinterpreted as a joke today. For now, you'll just have to take my word for it that these guys are deadly serious and have the technical chops to back up their ambition. Future documentation and applications built on the OS should soon make that more immediately evident"

[Anonymous No.12975895]

>>12975675
urbit is not internet, it is in essence another facet of the decentralization meme but for personal data/digital identity - like having your own room or diary, but in the digital realm

[Anonymous No.12975912]

>>12975895
Seems like basically a personal cloud that you plug into applications so they don't get any access to your data or if they want to have to pay. Not just data but identity like if i wanted to plug into my bank account or something.

Seems a bit like holochain to me

[Anonymous No.12975950]

>A Gentle Introduction to Mencius Moldbug
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6LUjUbikkk

[Anonymous No.12975986]

>>12973276
>Scient
right, I have still zero clue what Urbit IS. Like ok, I get the namespace shit and plantes, but what benefit does it have? Why should I pay for it?

Why not just fork it and set up my own, like an email server?

That people can't explain something is usually a sign it's a MLM scam

[Anonymous No.12976042]

>>12975986
it's the same as why companies can't just set up their own chainlink

The 'planets' are the servers, you can choose to set it up solely for email if you wish

[Anonymous No.12977014]

>>12975986
Address space is finite to mitigate spam. You can totally fork Urbit if you want but literally no one will be using your fork, it'll be just you.

[Anonymous No.12977026]

>>12975912
Poprox has said that Urbit might eventually be good to integrate into Holochain apps to prevent sybil attacks.