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12817145 No.12817145 [Reply] [Original]

WEEK 3 DAY 4 of looking for a wage slave job & only getting 'we will call you'' ''we're full'' or outright hateful rejection


>man fuck this shit if dont find or get something ANYTHING by next week friday im gonna take my last few tabs of LSD & walk into the sea fuck it ill try harder next rounds


and yes i tried everywhere from construction
flipping burgers scrubbing toilets to garbage man FUCK IT the system is saying im not compatible so FUCK IT

>> No.12817168

>>12817145
Bohoo baby can't find a job by just sending some emails with resume's.

Why won't they hire me he wined on 4chan.

Tell us what you actually tried and what you studied.

>> No.12817173

>>12817145
Hey, can we make a discord out of this?
job finding discord, I will do my best to maintain it right. I think a consensus or status queue will be reached if we all contribute to fine-tune the way you apply.

I will start the initiative, join me at discord gg/JWjTHqA first ten are my partners.

>> No.12817199

>>12817145
Would that work as a suicide method? I’m guessing the timing is important.

>> No.12817285

Get over yourself. I've been out of job for more than a month. The places I interviewed for didn't even have the decency to call me and let me know.

Even though they said they will call me.

>> No.12817313

>>12817285
>"THE place"

nigger try going to 25+ places 7 interviews 4 say they'll call you back & still getting reject im over myself i admit i fucked up my like & i admit defeat its allmost time release my soul into the sea & rest

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>>12817285

>> No.12817374

>>12817313
>>misquoting someone just to appear more desperate than them
ISHYGDDT

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>>12817145
you might not be cut out for working

Options
- crypto
- NEET bucks
- start your own business like over the internet or something
- collect cans and beverage bottles and turn them into recycling for $$$

>> No.12817529

mods i caught u snitching police showed up

>> No.12817541

>>12817145
i actually applied for garbage man and they told me i needed construction experience. lol this shit is done. boomers wrecked this country.

>> No.12817779

>interviewed two places 3 weeks ago
>they're both still "in the interview process" but sent me an email letting me know "they haven't forgotten about me and are still keeping me in mind"
>nigga I have rent to pay, either hire me or don't
>got phonecall yesterday for a place that pays MORE and wants someone to start on Friday, that I'm actually qualified for
>recruiter says "they aren't going to do much in the way of interviewing, they just want someone to start immediately"
HR are fucking retarded and this modern absolute CANCER of jobs taking 2 months to yes/no you is CANCER. You got a need, I got a need, we can fulfill each others' need, let's go, real nigga hours none of this five rounds of interviews bullshit.

>> No.12817907

>>12817145
learn how to use meme arrows first

>> No.12817935

>>12817779
they will tell you it's over only when they signed the contract of the chosen person. Until then you're on hold.

>> No.12817941
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12817941

You should consider yourself blessed. This should be the motivation for you to stick it to these cuckwage companies and start your own business. Though you will miss out on short term income, on the long run you will be way better off building something of your own.

Wagcucks are at the forever mercy of their employers and have little negotiation options, even if their skills are "in demand". Wagecuckery seems safe, when in reality it isnt, you can be fired at anytime your employer feels like it.

People who own their personal businesses, even if its small, are way more wealthy than a wagecuck, even if the wagecuck earns more.

>> No.12817965

>>12817779
>>12817145
I've been searching for around 3 months, its the same for me. I'm starting my own business and I realized how much better off I'll be once I have something to call my own.

Wagecuckery sucks. You'll be much better off. In fact the best thing to do is build multiple streams of income. I'll have my small business and do freelancing on the side, and perhaps another kind of business.

Benefits are another overblown marketing tool. I pay for my own health insurance and it really only costs me $350/month. In the grand scheme of things, its not that much. And I live in a high tax state.

Once I move out of here for a red state, I'll be much better off.

>> No.12817980

>>12817941
>looking for job to have money
>"just start a business anon, youll miss out on short term income"
How the fuck does one just open a business, specially when you need to make a LIVING? Do you have any idea just how extremely risky and difficult starting a business is and how much capital it can take? What do you do in the meantime? Live in a car and eat canned beans? People are out of touch with reality it seems.

>> No.12818004

> People are out of touch with reality it seems.
Are you sure? That doesn't sound like the /biz/ I know.

>> No.12818021

>>12817980
>How the fuck does one just open a business, specially when you need to make a LIVING?
It depends on your personal situation. I have enough money saved up to do so. I mean if you need money in the short term, then yea, you'll have no choice but to wagecuck. Even if its a part time gig being a server, you'll have to make ends meet.

>Do you have any idea just how extremely risky and difficult starting a business is and how much capital it can take?
I've already done the calculations. There are low cost, low overhead small business options that you can take, thats what I'll be doing. At the end of the day, you gotta do what you gotta do. I have to make this work, its MY BUSINESS. It will work because if not, I starve.

>What do you do in the meantime?
In the meantime I bust my ass to make my business work. I work harder than I ever did working for someone else. The great thing about owning your own business is that you begin to truly understand time management. Every minute counts, so when I work, I really do *work*.

You just seem to be making excuses. Starting a business is hard, but its not impossible. You need grit and determination. But you dont always need huge amounts of capital. Hell you can just search for "low overhead small business ideas" and you'll get a bunch. Especially with the internet now, theres no excuse not to start one.

>> No.12818062

>>12818021
I hope you have a really good plan that the normies will eat up.

>> No.12818100

>>12817965
I'm pursuing non-wagecucking income but it will take months before I see a dime, if i do at all. Got bills in the meantime. Seriously I'm disillusioned with wagefagging, I took on all this college debt for the promise of 50k starting and 70k after 2 years or so, with great benefits and all this jam. It was all a lie. The pay is dirt, more like 30k starting, and no benefits ever from permanent "contracting". It should be illegal, companies just use it to dodge legal obligations to pay PTO and other bennies. Honestly the worst is that they're so pretentious about it, like you should get on your knees and put your forehead to the ground for the opportunity to sell hours of your day for peanuts. The pay is so low it's insulting, and they expect you to grovel and beg for it. It's all bullshit. They wave a nickel in front of your face and expect you to jump through nine hoops of fire and then thank them for it and name your first child after them.
If work was you work, you get paid, it wouldn't be bad at all. It's all this bullshit that gets me seeing red. Let me tell you, unskilled jobs like waiting for restaurants, blue collar, there's none of that shit, and they pay just as good if not better.
They get you in by the promise "keep it up and in 5 years it will pay off and you'll get that six figure dream job with 2 weeks paid vacation". It's all a fucking con, that never comes around, the team leads were underpaid and miserable, the managers are underpaid and miserable. Where's the payoff?
>>12817980
This is also valid. 99% of businesses take a huge investment, that requires a loan or a wealthy buddy, and a year of labor before you can even start operation. 90% of new businesses fail.
There's freelancing and consulting, but the income is unreliable and it's bullshit, clients are the worst most uncommitted wishy washy jewy little fags imaginable. Spend more time getting clients than actually doing the work.
Wagecucking sucks but alternatives are difficult.

>> No.12818187

>>12818100
Well its either wagecucking or owning your own business(es). What would you rather choose?

You're talking to a guy who took down 150k of college debt. I had no idea at the time, no one told me, I just a young fool.

>They wave a nickel in front of your face and expect you to jump through nine hoops of fire and then thank them for it and name your first child after them.

Welcome to wagecucking!

>99% of businesses take a huge investment, that requires a loan or a wealthy buddy, and a year of labor before you can even start operation

Not true buddy. You need to start small. Start small, low overhead, low cost. Half of the battle is having a good website someone can browse. I'm a member of a special business forum and I'm being mentored. It's not that hard as you make it out to be, just have realistic expectations. I dont expect to be making big bucks anytime soon, but you need to keep at it and have perseverance.

>> No.12818207

>>12817145
just find some job in construction lol

>> No.12818210

>>12818187
>Special business forum
>Being mentored
Well there ya have it.

>> No.12818226

>>12818210
Its for small businesses....I won't advertise it here cause I dont want to make it look like I'm a shill. My message is that starting a Small business is difficult but not impossible and alot of people just give up half way through. Just keep at it and have perseverance. Start small. There are plenty of businesses you can start for less than $1k.

>> No.12818257

>>12818226
I can't stand this idea that you should just Google small businesses for under $1000. You should start a biz doing something you know very, very well. Starting a $1000 small business in an industry you know fuck all about is a quick way to lose $1000.

>> No.12818266

>>12818187
>have realistic expectations
I'm on a current venture in something creative, basically it's drawing porn, expecting 800/month passive revenue in 4 month's time if I finish the work within a month or two. So probably double that timeframe. Zero overhead. BUT no guarantee and no money for a good while.
>young fool
iktf. I didn't even want to go to college, parents forced me then shrugged their shoulders when I had a ton of debt and no job.
I'm just so disillusioned. If I had never gone to college at all and just worked my own shit as I had intended I'd be far better off now. But they make it feel like YOU have the problem if you aren't grateful to work for 3/hour more than a burger flipper makes to do some soul crushing eye-straining load of shit job that's high volume slaggery and be grateful for it. I'd do the work if it was all straight forward hand shaking but the absolute arrogance of these niggers to expect me to crawl like a worm for their viewing pleasure. They barely pay you enough for you to eat and pay rent, and they act like they're being so generous about it all. I'm just so done with it. I'd do the work for the pay, but I'm going to keep my pride, thanks, so now I have to hustle and try to come up with cash out of thin air instead.
The bootlicking expectations have gone too far. I'm not putting up with that shit. I'll sooner live out of a car than do so. Load of faggotry and mutual ballwashing.

>> No.12818268

>>12818257
>Starting a $1000 small business in an industry you know fuck all about
There is something called "The Internet" where people can share information and learn. Not saying you'll be a complete wizard, but you can at least get a good basic understanding of what you're getting into.

>> No.12818282

>>12818266
also don't ask how drawing porn is passive revenue.

>> No.12818321

>>12818268
> A bit of googling will prepare you to compete against people who likely have decades of experience doing what you want to do
Sure, and you can play Powerball because someone has to win. It's a stupid fucking idea.

>> No.12818322

>>12818282
I have an etsy business that I'd be willing to sell. All 5 star reviews, makes $30 bucks per sale minimum and all you do is trace drawings from a book. Made $2500 in 2017. I'd include all the supplies and passwords to the site.

>> No.12818384

>>12818321
>A bit of googling
Like I fucking said, it takes hard work and more than just a google search. But there are plenty of tutorials and introductions on youtube to small businesses. You won't become an expert but you'll get a foundation. You can usually pay a few hundred for a more premium experience too.

>> No.12818388

>>12818322
Why couldn't I just make my own etsy with my own shit, genius? You can't even sell a pen.

>> No.12818489

>>12817145

Netflix animation is hiring.

>> No.12818493

>>12818388
you will never have shit

good luck with your porn retard

>> No.12818573

>>12817980
you cant it's a meme perpetuated by rich fags that actually have capital to start their own business.

>> No.12818588

>>12817145
If an uneducated nigger can do it you have no chance. Go get a certification in something.

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>>12818493
>blocks your path

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>>12817145
You have to show you are an aggressive go-getter. Call everyday. Follow the HR women on social media and leave her gifts on her car. Write her extra cards and deliver them to her home. Did you send her a Presidents Day card? It's not too late to turn this ship around, fren.

>> No.12818712

>>12818604
Stop. Barashit is disgusting. westernshitpigs ruin yaoi. I have no problem with homo content but I'm not doing disgusting bara.

>> No.12818793

>>12817145
Move to south Florida: there is an excess of available jobs. Fags like you are just too big of pussies to get on a bus and go somewhere new.

>> No.12818805

>>12818712
I honestly have no idea wtf you are talking about.

>> No.12818840

>>12817541
Why don’t you just develop skills you faggot. Or just be the nigger you are and collect welfare, fuck if I care.

>Niggers: “Aww mane, crackaz always holding a nigga down
>You: “FML boomers have ruined the system, fuck the Jews”

Maybe you’re just a nigger and it’s your own fault...

>> No.12818857

Teach yourself how to code u dipshit nothing else matters in this economy. youtube, w3schools

>> No.12818895

>>12818793
elaborate? I've heard some rumors

>> No.12819020

>>12818857
Thanks for this anon. You got anymore sources like these you are willing to share?

>> No.12819061

I got 2 follow up interviews and then a follow up e mail explaining the person responsible is traveling. Now I got an email saying they are changing things around and will need to wait a few weeks to get an offer. Am I fucked?

>> No.12819062

>>12818895
It’s not a rumor: there is endless construction projects, an enormous medical industry, retail opportunities, insurance, restaurants, etc. It is very easy to get a job here within 24 hours: skilled or unskilled.

>> No.12819140

>>12817145
I don't know what the fuck happened to you entitled zoomers assuming that college was the golden ticket to a perfect life. Jesus Christ it's no wonder you don't get hired if you display even an inkling of the attitude about employment that is in your post. Your resume would go right into the garbage if it hit my desk.
Nobody wants to hire people straight out of college. Go get some experience, in anything. Not in your field of study? Boo fucking hoo. Go carry some buckets for a construction company ffs and understand what work actually is. Learn to take instruction and criticism like a man, and expect less. Nobody's going to pay you your dream salary from the get-go. Fuck I worked at Subway for 9 months after college before I got into my field. It fucking sucked but it payed the bills.
But in all honesty you should just take a bath with your toaster because you've clearly been steered toward failure by our gibsmedat society.

>> No.12819161

>>12817145
Should've learned some skills anon.

t. comfy software dev

>> No.12819181

>>12819140
>Nobody wants to hire people straight out of college. Go get some experience
>no one wants to hire you
>just get experience brah
>but no one wants to hire you to get that experience so you need to get experience in order to get experience in order to get experience so you can someday get hired for a job so you can get ex...wait
Good advice, grandpa.
>no one wants to hire you right out of college
Hilarious because baby boomers and x'ers all had that. 50k starting no xp needed. Now you need 5 years experience, it's 30k starting, and cost of living is 10x as much. I wonder why "zoomers" all complain? They must just be lazy.

>> No.12819190

I work in sales I make more than the average bachelor's degree in my state. Majority of my day is playing on my phone (which I get an okay hourly for) any time I'm actually working I also get comission on top of my hourly. My job basically gives me a bonus to incetivize me to do my job.

>> No.12819240

>>12819181
This is the reason why all boomers deserve a sock in their fat mouths.

>> No.12819244

>>12819190
What do you sell anon?

>> No.12819258

>>12819244
Cell Phones it's easy as shit and grossly overpaid just gotta not be a total sperg. If I really tried and felt like actually working I could prolly make about 6 figures.

>> No.12819268

>>12819181
>grandpa
I'm 28 you fuckin twat.
Stop playing the victim card. It makes you look so weak. Employers can see straight through your plastic smile when they look at your paper-thin resume. They know what you're thinking and it makes them sick.Go deliver some pizzas. It's not below you. Or just vote in Andrew Yang and scrape by on $1000/mo. Maybe then you'll at least stop complaining.

>> No.12819278

>>12817980
It is a meme started by 18 year olds who think you just make an LLC and can sit on the beach in Thailand making 300k passively.

>> No.12819304

>>12819258
This guy gets it.
Good friend of mine slings sell phones. Was so good at it that he got a job at corporate and makes more money than I do. Guess what? He never went to college. I suppose he's part of the global elite that is oppressing all of you college grads, right?

>> No.12819323

>>12819304
Yea if you don't suck and you get a job at corporate you make more than basically any college grad outside of a select few.

>> No.12819335

>>12819181
>Got a non retarded degree
>Got a gubment job paying 60k a year to sit on my ass all day with no experience
>11 holidays off a year
>Will probably be able to retire at 45 and collect big fat taxpayer checks if I want to
>This faggot can't even get a job at McDonalds

Lmao fuck zoomers. Maybe you retards should have picked up a fucking book instead of playing fortnite and watching twitch streams all day.

>> No.12819350

>>12819335
Oh yea I forgot to mention 401k full benefits and 25 days of PTO a year.

>> No.12819468

>>12817145
Have you tried the unemployment office?

>> No.12819574

>>12819335
>if I'm complaining about the job market I must be unemployed or have a shitty arts degree
Try again.
>>12819268
>just give 'em a firm handshake and be enthusiastic about wanting to clean their asshole with your tongue
Fuck off.

>> No.12819678

economy is fucked

anybody else telling you otherwise is extremely privileged without realizing it. Trust me im doing everything right, follow every piece of advice, applied to over 200 jobs a year.

Its fucked man, dont let them convince you otherwise. If you dont have a network of employed friends you better buy some kneepads because life is going to SUCK

>> No.12819745

>>12819678
>If you dont have a network of employed friends

this is how most people get jobs & you are competing against nepotism when applying for these

>> No.12819783

>>12818187
which website builder do you suggest? currently with a buddy developing website for our design & build business.

>> No.12819820

>>12819678
I just don't understand WHY it's so fucked. Everything feels dead and it's like all the opportunity has evaporated and there's no advancement options ever. Pay is dwindling down lower and lower. Am I crazy or is anyone else seeing this?

>> No.12819906
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I've been out of college for 9 years, none of my tech jobs have lasted more than 7 months, and in between I have had repeated years of unemployment where I did no work or nothing but walked dogs.

Five weeks of applications, 19 applications total, and just got my offer this morning. Software Engineer II, full stack position. $80,000, 70% matching 401k, and 7% bonus. Free catered lunches.

Keep looking, OP. Applying for jobs is the worst thing, but you'll find something. I thought I was screwed and suddenly, bam, there it is.

>> No.12820131

I've been out of gradschool for about a year and a half. Luckily I only used scholarships and have zero debt.

I worked 2 unpaid internships so far and am still looking for paid work.

Are job fairs worth it? Thinking about going to one of those sometime and see what it's like.

>> No.12820188

>>12817145
I was in the same boat OP, if you're still here. Nobody believes me when I post about it, but I had 30 in-person interviews and didn't get a single job offer. Eventually, after years, and everyone I knew getting a job on their first or second interview, I got a job as a part-time cart pusher at Home Depot because they hire everyone who walks in the door for that job, and literally all of the other cart pusher are people who have mental retardation, insantiy, down syndrome, or untreated scizophrenia.

>> No.12820254

>>12820188
>what kept you from eating a bullet not trying to shit on you but what could you have seen in your future tto make you keep going because just thinking about the levels i may have to lower myself for not a really good reward i want to already give up

>> No.12820491

I joined the local Freemason lodge just to make connections.

>> No.12820493

>>12820491
Tell us more.

>> No.12820526

>>12819820
Because you have to compete with all these illegal immigrants now

>> No.12820604

>>12820493
The brothers there all seem really nice. Many have their own businesses or are high ranking in well-known companies or government agencies (this is in the D.C. metro area). I'm still in the process of getting to know all of them so the only thing I've gotten out of it so far is free dinner before the meetings.

>> No.12820620

>>12820604
Don't you have to be invited or related to one?

>> No.12820635

>>12820620
No. Nowadays you just have to express interest via email and they'll call you, tell you to attend the next dinner and stuff.

You have to keep attending events for a longer period of time if you don't know any Masons or aren't related to any beforehand. But it shouldn't take any longer than 6 months.

>> No.12820659

NOT
ECONOMICALLY
VIABLE

>> No.12820719

>>12820659
thhen fuuck it ill just cause as i can since im not
ECONOMICALLY
VIABLE

fuck the world let it burn

>> No.12820748

>>12820659
then fuck it ill just cause as much pain as i can to the system since im not
ECONOMICALLY
VIABLE

fuck the world let it burn

>> No.12820808

>>12820254
It doesn't matter how low you are, when you've actually got that loaded pistol in your hands it's extremely hard to go through with it if you're sober.

>> No.12820991

I'm honestly thinking of quitting my wagecuck job and doing car detailing. How brainlet is this? I actually enjoy the work

I think I'd start with washing, paint/headlight restoration. Then move into interior detailing and engine bay cleaning. Good idea or nah?

>> No.12821061

>>12819906
No joke it took you 9 years to get "the good job". That's fucked

>> No.12821080

>>12817173
bump

>> No.12821089

>>12821061
9 years ago was 2010 / 2009, so maybe the recession got him. So many professional career paths rely on you getting a job straight out of college, and if you don't for whatever reason it takes years to recover and get back on track with that starting job.

>> No.12821663

>>12819304
He actually is

>> No.12821686

>>12817145
Might as well give up. Nobody is hiring right now.

>> No.12821702

>>12819678
They will realize when the everything bubble pops

>> No.12821834

>>12820604
>>12820635
What the hell do they even do, what are they about? How does it benefit you, like will they hook you up with a good job or what?

>> No.12821918

>>12817145
How about instead of writing a bunch of emails you go out and actually step in the building. I do that, and right now I have 3 different jobs wanting me to work with them, I dont even know which ones to choose.


If you want FAST employment go to a Randstad or Temp Agency office and tell them you want a job, you will literally be working the next day.

>> No.12822063

Just walk into the king's office, give him a firm handshake and ask to take over the country. Worked for me.

>> No.12822412

>>12822063
Literally what Queen Wilhelmina did.

>> No.12823646

>>12818266
got any examples?

>> No.12823835

>>12822063
i did that, but i got portugal. sucks.

>> No.12824329

>>12818100
Can you tell me please how you plan to make money in the future? Like what exactly will you do?
I see things 100% the same as you do!

>> No.12824413

>>12818266
Dude, I fucking love you!
You're speaking 100% out what I'm thinking. Jesus Christ, I didn't know those people still exist.
I was on a job interview a few days ago and told them straight away what I thought. Obviously I didn't get the job, but I kept my pride. I surely won't kiss some asses from HR and tell them that it's my dream to work at their shit company.
I worked blue collar before. There was no such shit.

>> No.12824483

I just lie on my resume, all there's too it, exaggerate my work, and the amount of time. Just got my associates, so I'll be looking at banking jobs as a teller with my pizza Hut and college bursar cash handling experience. From 8.20 to 13 hr, worked the jobs for 1 year, lied and said I worked 3 years

>> No.12824775

>>12819062
nigga its hot as hell and humid

>> No.12825150

>>12817529
What state are you in?

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>interview today in london

>> No.12826153

>>12818021
t.MJdemarco

>> No.12826507

>>12821918
>How about instead of writing a bunch of emails you go out and actually step in the building.
Does this actually work? Why would it be more effective?