/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.12761238]

>apple iphone good
>starbucks coffee good
>movado watch good
>personal chauffeur good
>capitalism bad

[Anonymous No.12761242]

[Anonymous No.12761260]

It is not her job to act like she wants others to act.

[Anonymous No.12761271]

Because you can't like anything if you don't like capitalism! Seriously just go and live in he woods.
Better to be a cunt than a hypocrite am I right?

[Anonymous No.12761273]

>>12761238
It's fun to watch the manufactured love and hate for this woman to seep in public conversation. You people are too easily manipulatable.

[Anonymous No.12761286]

>>12761238
She's not saying capitalism is bad, just that American citizens need to benefit more from the success of their companies and products. It's a reasonable ask when unemployment will skyrocket in 10 years thanks to based automation.

[Anonymous No.12761300]

[Anonymous No.12761302]

>>12761238
To be honest, in a socialist country a politician would have all that and more.

[Anonymous No.12761316]

>>12761302
In a socialist country none of those consumer products world exist numbnuts.

[Anonymous No.12761324]

>>12761316
I met a couple of ministers when I went to Cuba, all of them had iPhones and all the good shit. Citizens were starving but politicians were living the high life. Honestly, if I didn't have the means to make that kind of money in capitalism, I would 100% be running as a socialist candidate like AOC. Come on man, everyone wants the good shit.

[Anonymous No.12761338]

>>12761324
Yes, but those products were developed in a capitalist country and exported to a socialist country. I think you’re missing the point entirely.

[Anonymous No.12761342]

>>12761300
Is this real? I don't believe that Amazon doesn't pay federal taxes

[Anonymous No.12761359]

>>12761273
One politician is getting this much press and these idiots just line up to give their opinion.

If she's getting pushed it's because she's a manufactured wedge issue and people need to be distracted.

[Anonymous No.12761361]

>>12761300
>Implying all that money wouldn't go straight to welfare niggers or lost in the military industrial complex

[Anonymous No.12761368]

>>12761286
>their companies
wrong

[Anonymous No.12761377]

>>12761238
People like here will destroy this country by hating people who they assume hate them back, voting for things they don’t understand, and providing free squallar to people who need guidance and opportunity. Forgive them lord, they know not what they do.

[Anonymous No.12761386]

>>12761338
You don't need to build the good shit to have the good shit.

[Anonymous No.12761389]

>>12761271
kek keep coping. You anti capitalist fags are the biggest hypocrites there are. Gulags for all of you when the communist utopia you envision becomes a reality.
>muh free gibbs
>muh ubi
>muh bar tender failed economics grad "politician"

[Anonymous No.12761417]

>>12761342
Of course. Except it's not billions in profit it's billions in revenue. I'll leave it as your homework to figure out why that matters and how that makes it so they legally don't have to pay tax. (Hint: look into 'expenses')

[Anonymouse No.12761419]

>>12761238
> creature comforts are hypocritical
Fucking wot lol

[Anonymous No.12761423]

>>12761238
>tfw no commie shitskin gf

[Anonymous No.12761434]

>>12761417
you brainlet, Amazon has a revenue way higher than 11.2b holy shit what a monkey

[Anonymous No.12761442]

>>12761238
Regardless of her personal economic status she's making the argument that money distribution in our current VERSION of capitalism is out of whack and is causing our country to enter third world status, which is fucking true. And she doesn't care if she winds up paying higher taxes as a result and can afford less Movado watches or whatever the fuck.
>Billionaires really NEED their billions though. It's sooooo hard to maintain a lifestyle with an iPhone and a watch and a driver with less than $20MM... ugh! Then how will I ALSO fly private jet to the Maldives and continue to pay my 20 person staff at my chateau?
Fuck off, OP.

[Anonymous No.12761452]

>>12761434
Wrong.

[Anonymous No.12761468]

>>12761238
t. brainlet

[Anonymous No.12761482]

>>12761238

>brown girl bad

[Anonymous No.12761484]

>>12761300
>>12761342
>>12761417
>>12761434
https://youtu.be/vC5x9rIIdAc
They don't really make a profit.

[Anonymous No.12761498]

>>12761238
I hate this retarded boomer meme. It wouldn't be possible to to exist without consuming. That doesn't mean that capitalism is good. There's just no ethical consumption under capitalism.

[Anonymous No.12761507]

>>12761389
False dichotomy retard. Socialism isn't the same as communism. And I'm not even really defending her. She's a moron who doesn't even know what socialism is. If anything, she's a social democrat, not a democratic socialist.

[Anonymous No.12761513]

>>12761507
socialism is communism lite, faggot kys

[Anonymous No.12761519]

>>12761484
also note (IRS) allows businesses to carry net operating losses (NOL) forward 20 years. So likely AMZN is reducing current operation gains with losses resulting in zero tax liability.

[Anonymous No.12761529]

>>12761519
That and capital expenditures are the main reasons, along with transfer pricing policies. In curious to see what their GILTI and FDII liabilities (if any) are. I haven't read their 10-K.

[Anonymous No.12761532]

>>12761519
This too complex for the socialist brainletts to understand.

[Anonymous No.12761546]

Enjoy your next democrat candidate for presidential elections.
It’s hilary clinton’s clone, and her campaign already started.
another kikes pawn to destroy america.

[Anonymous No.12761561]

Socialists like AOC are identical to the anti-Janny posters of biz.
They intentionally destroy the infrastructure they thrive on just to attempt to show they are on top. That they care the least, and therefore are on top of the social hierarchy.

The shitposters of politics

[Anonymous No.12761566]

>>12761238
Rent Free

[Anonymous No.12761573]

>>12761377
Based and Christpilled

[Anonymous No.12761586]

>>12761386
Idiot, he's saying that it's the freedom of not having a state controlled everything that led to people wanting to invent new shit instead of wasting away dreaming off better days like you are doing

[Anonymous No.12761595]

>>12761519
Can someone explain this to a total brainlet please?

[Anonymous No.12761605]

>>12761238
>movado watch

How do you know what brand watch?
Are you a faggot or something?
Tell us the brand of her dress now you faggot

[Anonymous No.12761618]

>>12761595
If you're in a taxable loss for a year, you can carry it frward to offset future taxable income. Historically you've been allowed to carry them forward for 20 years. Since tax reform, losses generated in 2018 onward do not expire and can be carried forward indefinitely.

[Anonymous No.12761623]

>>12761442
She wants the entire world to be on renewable power by 2030. Currently, the US has about 10% of power by renewables..

I studied Chem Eng., and I co-authored quite a few research papers on the topic of renewable energy. The current status of the industry is literally the alt-coin white paper market. Pajeets put forth a research paper that is filled with buzzwords and ridiculously poor mathematics and assumptions.

It would be our wet dream if all of US was powered via renewable in a decade. It just isn't happening, for a long long time... But feel free to tell me it is possible if we "really push for it".

Not even from the US so I couldn't care less, just find it amusing

[Anonymous No.12761636]

>>12761623
Other countries seem to be able to go forward quite well with renewable energy? Doesn't this screw with your theory?

[Anonymous No.12761641]

>>12761623
>>12761636
meanwhile russia keeps building new nuclear power plants, laughing at the entire world as they literally drown themselves with electircity for pennies

[Anonymous No.12761664]

>>12761636
Nothing is as simple as it seems. Nuclear energy (france as an example) is very potent. In fact, In Canada, nuclear energy powers most of Ontario.

The issue is, a significant portion of mechanical equipment rely on petrochemicals (diesel generators, gasoline vehicles, diesel trucks). To say we will replace ALL of these with electric or some renewable energy vehicle in 10 years, is quite ridiculous. We will need oil regardless while we make the transition, and that won't happen in 10 years.

I do agree though, it is possible, but not in a decade. Heck, I would prefer it

[Anonymous No.12761678]

>>12761238
Wow got anymore hot boomer takes, bro

[Anonymous No.12761695]

>>12761664
Yeah if we do have a break down of civilization what happens to those nuclear reactors though?

[Anonymous No.12761711]

>>12761641
Nuclear energy does have drawbacks, it is intermittent (not easy to control the reaction output). Ontario is a good example of this:

https://business.financialpost.com/commodities/energy/use-wasted-excess-electricity-to-power-economic-growth-engineers-urge-ontario

https://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2014/01/20/ontario_paid_1_billion_to_dump_excess_electricity_in_2013_ndp.html

>>12761695
Another drawback on nuclear

[Anonymous No.12761717]

>>12761695
desu nuclear reactors have fucked up even without a civilization breakdown.
cheap energy tho

[Anonymous No.12761737]

>>12761717
Isn't Japan basically destroyed because of Nuclear Energy?

[Anonymous No.12761741]

>>12761711
>paying to dump electricity
oh wow its almost like canadians are braindead subhumans!
meanwhile eastern slav slum countries excess energy is given for FREE to everyone to use, see ukraine, giving free electricity between something like 2AM and 5AM in a 3 hour window

[Anonymous No.12761770]

>>12761741
The issue is the electrical grid congestion. Think of it like a tank of water, if you have little to no demand (output) for the tank, but you keep filling it, the tank will overflow.

It's the same concept here, when you start a reaction (nuclear), it will keep supplying energy, and you can only dampen the effect. If there is no demand to accept that electricity, then you need to get rid of it. Nuclear is inflexible like that

[Anonymous No.12761777]

>>12761316
3 out of 4 items in ops list are from socialist countries

[Anonymous No.12761779]

>>12761695
You can't be hung up on technology failures of the past. Just because some ford pintos caught fire in the past doesn't mean we need to halt car use completely. control rods can be designed with enough poisons to render a fuel matrix impotent.

[Anonymous No.12761780]

>>12761711
they should start some big dick mining operation using that wasted energy lol

[Anonymous No.12761790]

>>12761779
Yeah but we're heading for a environmental breakdown, possible collapse of civilization.

[Anonymous No.12761801]

>>12761711
>>12761717
>>12761737
Look for entries on company's doing stuff thorium/molten salt reactor related massive increase across the board compared to PWRs, 100% passive safety no meltdown and walk away safe, uses nuclear 'waste' as fuel, other fuel is plentiful thorium, small and able to be assembled on assembly line style reactors are possible (current ones are nearly all bespoke and massive), has only 1-2% waste - inside that waste is medical grade isotopes and RTG fuel (for deep space probes) both are in short supply. What ever country has them first will have a massive edge. Main reason US can't mine 'rare' earths is due to regulation prohibiting thorium being dug up so could also be short Chinese rare earths to hedge the play if US gets MSRs first or something, watch regulation in that area.

[Anonymous No.12761808]

>>12761770
yes i understand that, that's why in eastern countries where nuclear is dominant, you have offers that basically state "in the middle of the night, when electrical consumption is at its lowest, we offer you FREE electricity to use"
since, like you pointed out, it is cheaper to simply give it away for free for a couple hours instead of going through hoops
yes you are right, in a catastrophic event where suddenly the power consumption of the industrial and private sector drops by 50%, all that excess nuclear energy will be an issue... however at that point i am sure you are dealing with far bigger problems than that
canada PAYING to dump electricity is just a "lol fuck you no free stuff for you!" move by the companies towards the consumers

[Anonymous No.12761854]

>>12761808
I see your point, but at the end of the day demand is demand, it varies. I do agree that instead of giving it away (or paying people lol), they should find a way to utilize this energy.

Gotta say im liking the discussions in this thread >>12761801

>>12761779
this guy knows his nuclear

[Anonymous No.12762037]

>>12761273
Okay I'll bite. Who is manufacturing the love and hate any why?

[Anonymous No.12762080]

>>12761238
She likes capitalism as long as she can siphon as much as she can from it into our bloated and corrupt federal government. Not sure why she made such a big fuss about the Amazon HQ, typical NIMBY shit I suppose. Long Island City is a post-industrial shithole outside of the gentrified luxury highrises popping up.

[Anonymous No.12762092]

>>12761546
She can't be the next candidate as she won't be 35 until the 2024 election.

[Anonymous No.12762098]

>>12761507
>she's from the democratic people's front of judea not from the judean people's front

>>12761442
>the rest of the world can fuck off the only important thing is that my politicians and welfare recipients stay in the 1%

Can't wait for the government to collapse to buy a couple choppers from the military and start giving economically illiterate tankies free rides

[Anonymous No.12762110]

>>12761484
they also hire a shitload of people

[Anonymous No.12762129]

>>12761238
>movado watch
please explain this for fellow eastern european anon

[Anonymous No.12762144]

>>12761801
this reminded me of the ecat.
i was following the tech like 10 years ago. everything was going smooth, media coverage, peer reviewed public trials at various eu universities etc. then the creator moved to the us to register the patent and since then i've never heard any news about it. at least the website is still there (ecat.com)

[Anonymous No.12762160]

>>12761238

i know this is /biz/ and 4chan which is the home of /pol/ so anything that has to do with government help or taxes to help the less fortunate in society get up is blasphemy, and i may be asking a lot here. But can you idiots stop being brainlets for 2 fucking seconds

[Anonymous No.12762176]

>>12762080
>Not sure why she made such a big fuss about the Amazon HQ
It has the appearance of regulatory capture. So her argument seems to be there is no net benefit to society. But she can't explain it except in a incoherent socialist way.
I do think there was benefit by the way. Just speculating.

[Anonymous No.12762199]

>>12762110
Not in New York city.

[Anonymous No.12762211]

>>12762160
Can you stop making us poorer and stop supporting leeches for 2 fucking seconds? Why is it that brainless sheep have this compulsive need to support politicians that make the world much poorer than it could be?

[Anonymous No.12762225]

>>12761238
SOCIALISM DOES NOT WORK IN AMERICA. Get it the fuck out. Capitalism works. The Federal Reserve System is sucking the country dry. The Rothschilds and their bloodline is to blame. The meeting at Jekyll Island kicked their plan into gear. If yos tnaw uocialism, you mix it with a capitalism in a hybrid, Nordic Model type economy.

Still, America is fucked until people stop depending on the state and figure their lives out themselves. I'm talking taking care of themselves better, eating better, being more wise with their earned income, and investing time and money into the right sectors.

[Anonymous No.12762228]

>>12761238
If she didn't have those things you would be mocking her for being a poorfag. We know the game now Gramps. This whole capitalism meme is done.

[Anonymous No.12762258]

>>12762228
Since she is a socialist her and all her cronies will have those things. Everyone else will have to dream of those things.

[Anonymous No.12762273]

>>12762228
>1 billion people lifted out of poverty in the last 25 years thanks to free trade
>1 billion people that now buy mercedes cars, iphones, levis jeans, samsung tvs, have healthcare, go to college, go on holidays abroad, etc

Yeah capitalism is clearly done because art majors working in starbucks don't make $20 an hour..

[Anonymous No.12762325]

>>12762273
Almost of that is because of China, a literal Marxist state that is still planning on establishing socialism by 2050.

[Anonymous No.12762331]

>>12761238
dumb fucking cunt who capitalizing on uneducated masses

[Anonymous No.12762345]

Women were a mistake

[Anonymous No.12762359]

[Anonymous No.12762393]

>>12762325
Yes, China truly is a shining example wealth redistribution, union rights, high factory pay, and safe working conditions.

[Anonymous No.12762472]

>>12762160
Can you fucking kill yourself in 2 seconds?

[Anonymous No.12762524]

>>12762325
The Chinese government didn't do shit brainlet, all chinese growth was because of foreign investors and foreign consumers, that is because of free trade brainless tankie

[Anonymous No.12762582]

As economy turns down socialists will gain more vote. I would not be surprised communists win next elections in usa it would be fun to watch the shit show

[Anonymous No.12762598]

>>12762582
Trumpards are the true socialists. Yellow revolutionaries, bringing socialism in everything but name, as a true revolution should've happened.
Not under champagne socialist and university students suffering from Unwarranted Self Importance syndrome.

[Anonymous No.12762601]

Anons, why shouldn't I invest everything I have into molten salt reactors?
also how do I do this
Should I buy Thorium related companies?

[Anonymous No.12762613]

>>12762598
Trumptards are too dumb to be socialist. If you're right wing and anti establishment your options are fascism or voting for the establishment.

[Anonymous No.12762620]

>>12761623
negotiation 101, you push for your best possible pie in the sky moon lambo scenario and you make your political adversaries compromise and settle to give on the attainable goals you actually wanted all along.
It only sounds extreme because democrats are nothing but controlled opposition since bill clinton, they're paid to lose and cry about "muh big bad republicans" while getting their campaign donations from exactly the same corporations as the republicans.

[Anonymous No.12762632]

>>12762613
The masses that bring revolution are too dumb to understand academic socialism. Yet they deliver it without that understanding.
This is the essence of Marxism.

[Anonymous No.12762643]

>>12762598
>Trumpards are the true socialists

You make absolutely no sense. By definition socalists who want more taxes will likely win next elections, and i will enjoy the shit show. Trump voters on average have much larger wages so ofcourse they vote with their wallets. As economy turns down however, you will have larger pie of paycheck to paycheck people and student loans etc. when you will turn the tide to socialism following european model

[Anonymous No.12762646]

>>12761300
Amazons rev was 218 Billion in 2018. if there was no profit (required for no corporate taxes) then that 218 billion circulated through the economy. Every wagie they paid paid taxes, every box they bought paid for wagies in box companies, etc. etc.

Try to squeeze corporations for taxes in the digital age and they'll move their tax HQ into belize, ruining your little "plan"

[Anonymous No.12762662]

>>12762643
>By definition socalists ...
Your straw-man definition. Marxism revolution doesn't deal with ideology. It deals with social dynamics making radical change necessary. Trump brings that, or will.

[Anonymous No.12762682]

>>12762662
Im arguing with a pseudo-intellectual kid clearly. Go back to pol please

[Anonymous No.12762696]

>>12762646
Make them do it then, and get their fill of pajeets there too

Tarrifs used to be the main funding tool for the government

[Anonymous No.12762699]

>>12761286
>implying she thinks this
She isnt capable of any level of high order thinking

[Anonymous No.12762706]

>>12761417
Amazon reported $10.1 billion in net income for 2018 and $232.9 billion in revenue. They didn't pay any federal income tax on that because they have a large deferred tax asset from previous reported losses. I'm not saying that's a bad thing - they pay a ton of local taxes and their employees pay a ton of taxes and contribute to the economies in which they live - but I am saying you're trying to be smug about something you're absolutely wrong about.

[Anonymous No.12762724]

>>12762706
How about talk needing less tax money and less government instead of blaming people not paying enough taxes

[Anonymous No.12762732]

>>12762682
>Talks about 'socalists'
>projecting this hard

[Anonymous No.12762733]

>>12761507
>She's not a social democrat, she's obviviusly a socialistic democratulist!
Socialists of all kinds sure do love semantics

[Anonymous No.12762737]

>>12761271
it's endlessly perplexing college commies like you are more materialistic than i could ever be. i don't have anything op listed, i genuinely don't care about anything op listed, yet i like plenty of things
i know the rationalisation you're making in your brain right now: "you're lying, faggot"
this is the essence of socialists: they're despicable characters at their core, but the desire to believe we're good people is innate to every human. in order to cope with his own wickedness, the socialist must create a mental construct in which everyone is even worse than him

[Anonymous No.12762749]

>>12762643
>Trump voters on average have much larger wages
Dem money comes from massive entities like WalMart and Google, Rep votes come from places like Penn. and the Great Lakes.

[Anonymous No.12762762]

>>12761561
what an incredibly jewish post. showing the middle finger to jannies is based

[Anonymous No.12762768]

>all these boomers freaking about AOC and muh communism like it's the 1950s or some shit
Young adults in the US only hate capitalism because they can't afford housing, healthcare or education. There is no revolution coming.

[Anonymous No.12762772]

>>12761238
Socialists are parasites. They love their comfy lifestyle but hate those built it. Demonizing capitalism and white straight males in the most horrific ways is necessary to remove any moral qualms about robbing them through taxes.

[Anonymous No.12762774]

> in order to cope with his own wickedness, the socialist must create a mental construct in which everyone is even worse than him

I think it all comes down to money. A socialist suddenly turns to trumpster once his income goes up. If you work for government and your salary is tax money from others you probably too vote for democrats. Thus, when the pie grows large enough you will have more people wanting to gain from taxes and less payers

>it's endlessly perplexing college commies like you are more materialistic than i could ever be.

This true, college commies often very materialistic by heart thus comes the envy and anger for right wing voters. Same thing happened in nazi germany with jews and nazis (the leftists)

[Anonymous No.12762775]

>>12761300
How many wagie cagies make their living off Amazon? All their income is taxed middle class. Fuck off corporate tax isn't a solution to shit. Liberals just like to look at large amounts of money and figure out ways for the government to grab it. Are you gonna audit my depreciation claims on my cages? Fuck off pie in the sky retard this isnt your civics field trip to DC

[Anonymous No.12762776]

>>12761777
>socialist

China is NATCAP

[Anonymous No.12762784]

>>12762768
>can't afford housing, healthcare or education.
>There is no revolution coming.

[Anonymous No.12762789]

>>12761238
Cock-nose Cortez.

[Anonymous No.12762808]

>>12762768
>>12762784
Lel edge

[Anonymous No.12762812]

>>12761300

>she thinks federal taxes pay for schools and firefighters

Those are local taxes.

She literally doesn't even know where tax dollars go.

[Anonymous No.12762830]

>>12762784
If they really start getting radicalized the US government will just start handing them gibs like they did in the 30s with the New Deal. It would be trivially easy for the US to implement some kind of universal health insurance program if they really wanted to. They could fix the housing issue by building projects and of course the education problem could be addressed simply by forgiving all current student loans and tying future loan repayment to income like they do in other countries.

[Anonymous No.12762836]

>>12761238
iphone is made in communist China, so I don't see a problem. I hope you're not using it though, that would be hypocritical of you

[Anonymous No.12762853]

>>12762812
ya the US Dept of Education definitely doesn't exist. fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.12762869]

>>12762830
Here's a more likely scenario: deep state allows for a civil war to happen and uses the unrest as a pretext to remove everyone they don't like in the government and install people they do like instead. Also they'll use it to expand their powers, for "safety". They're not afraid of your revolution. Who are you kicking out? Figureheads, you're not kicking out the real rulers who give those figureheads money, you don't even know the names of those people. Go ahead and kill each other to replace one pawn with another, see if the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds care

[Anonymous No.12762890]

>>12761300
Money Amazon would save through tax breaks is its own money, not that of "the public."

Schools, firefighters, infrastructure, and healthcare can and should all be paid for and provided contractually by private companies, and do not require a government monopoly funded through extortion.

[Anonymous No.12762901]

>>12762733
They're tw very different things. Social democrats support capitalism. Social democracy is popular in Scandinavian countries. Democratic socialism cannot coexist with capitalism. Socialism is workers' ownership of the means of production. It really annoys me how people like you won't even try to learn about opposing ideologies. You should at least know what you're critiquing.

[Anonymous No.12762918]

>>12762836
Despite its rigid social moores China isn't communist in the slightest

See >>12762776 dumbo, they are in Reaganomics mode sans illegal immigrants, niggers and outsourcing so their standard of living has been increasing rapidly in every metric as a result

[Anonymous No.12762945]

>>12761238
perfect example of how she isnt an actual threat to the status quo. She herself cannot get rid of capitalism's materialism's control over her own life.

[Anonymous No.12762952]

>>12761300
All those big tech jobs payed income tax on their paychecks.

[Anonymous No.12762955]

>>12762918
>China isn't communist in the slightest
Yes anon the country were the communist government legally owns all land is totally not communist. You've been brainwashed into saying that, retard. Imagine if Americans realized that their biggest trade partner after Cold War is a communist country. Very easy to spread disinfo to Americans, they're dumb as shit. And then that disinfo just spreads around the world. Nobody questions it, it's common knowledge that's "it's not REAL communism". Well real communism doesn't exist does it. USSR wasn't communist either. Just more communist than others.

[Anonymous No.12762971]

>>12762129
pricey, seen as status symbol by some

[Anonymous No.12762981]

>>12761271
you don't need the newest iphone, in fact you don't need anything more than an old nokia from 2010. smartphones aren't a necessity
you don't need overpriced shitty coffee served by wagies, i'm sure there are cheap alternatives that taste the same

[Anonymous No.12762984]

>>12761260

[Anonymous No.12762999]

>>12762869
What sides would be at war with eachother, genius?

[Anonymous No.12763008]

>>12761377
Just turn the other cheek, g-y.

[Anonymous No.12763041]

>>12762955
Are biggest trade partner is not dirt farmer ass- hand wiper mainland China, it's places like Shenzhen, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Niggbo Gookzoo, and Bangdingow

[Anonymous No.12763117]

>>12761238
kek

OP is a cis-gender male identifying objective truther

[Anonymous No.12763136]

>>12762955
You say I've been brainwashed but you're the dumbass projecting your moronic boomer value system on me like I give a shit whether one of our main trading partners are [adjective] or not (LOL FAGGOT) with that non-sequitur. China isn't communist for having state-run enterprises any more than the US or fuckin' Britain is, especially when over 4 million private firms are being created there every year, and China's pre-Trump tax rates were until recently substantially lower than that of the US.

Do you think they'd be doing half as good as they are today economically if they were still under Mao or a committed Maoist's boot? No, they'd continue on the same economic flatline they'd been on for the 75 years prior to the Deng reforms.

[Anonymous No.12763150]

>>12762901
>Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark
>no minimum wage

>Sweden privatized social security

Hey you might be on to something libtard fren

[Anonymous No.12763166]

>>12761271
It must suck being emotionally conflicted between your materialistic desires, on the one hand, and your ideological disposition on the other.

Idiots like (you) are always the first to insist “do I say, not as I do”.

Just remember, you’re just as massive a hypocrite as Marx, the patron saint of bohemian trustfund hipsters and champagne socialists.

[Anonymous No.12763208]

>>12762598
Trumpers and socialists are both populist
Both rant about bullshit with pie in the sky solutions like giant walls or giant free stuff. Both groups have weak understanding of economics. Only a genius libertarian ancap candidate will save us... Robo Ron Paul 2.0

[Anonymous No.12763438]

>>12761300
>to the pot
free weed anyone?

[Anonymous No.12764123]

>>12762646
You realize that already happens, but it's usually Ireland right?

[Anonymous No.12764146]

>>12762901
I was just riffing on how those who often uphold what they call "Socialism" as a whole are so pedantic about what it /means/
Some use the 'original' definition of Socialism to be communists, some mean they just want a welfare state, some are like ocasio-cortez, asf.

[Anonymous No.12764147]

>>12763208
>Only a genius libertarian ancap candidate will save us
>still thinking in terms of ideologies
It's sociology/group dynamics all the way down

[Anonymous No.12764274]

>>12761300
top kek, imagine thinking that Amazon contributes nothing to society and that they are "taking" from people.

[Anonymous No.12764301]

>>12764274
This. Bezos is far more important to the functioning of society than your average Joe. Without him Amazon deliveries would cease.

[Anonymous No.12764317]

>>12764147
ideologies are really just principles that you make decisions off of. There's nothing wrong with having a set of principles which you follow.

[Anonymous No.12764439]

>>12764301
>Without him Amazon deliveries would cease
He stays up late at night to follow every single order, track it and encourage the mailman to deliver it?

[Anonymous No.12764616]

>>12761271
she's being incongruent desu

[Anonymous No.12764665]

socialists will never win

[Anonymous No.12764700]

Shitlibs are going berserk lately because they know we are like 2 crises away from right wing death squads full of millenials and zoomers trained in the art of urban combat and fortification building by years of Minecraft and fortnite.

They know they are about to be rounded up and mass murdered so yeah....of course they are freaking out. Rightly So!

[Anonymous No.12764728]

>>12761271
none of those expensive products would exist in her dream socialist state. either they would not be made or nobodybut the dictatorial leaders would be wealthyenough to afford them. you are one dumb faggot nigger

[Anonymous No.12764732]

>12761482

Not even going to dignify this with a (you). Jesus what a horrible attempt.

[Anonymous No.12764738]

>>12764665
because when given the choice, liberals would rather take their chances holding power with fascists than with socialists who demand they share.

[Anonymous No.12764755]

>>12764738
Socialists are losers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism_in_One_Country

[Anonymous No.12764762]

>>12761532
This also applies to personal income taxes. You can apply Bitcoin losses to reduce your tax liability, or any other losing investment

[Anonymous No.12764772]

>>12764732
and now nobody knows what you were responding to retard

[Anonymous No.12764783]

>>12761342
>I don't believe
and thats why you dumb fucks will keep voting like class traitors instead of doing your research and actually doing something to uncuck yourselves

[Anonymous No.12764784]

>>12764772
That is the fucking point you literal retard.

[Anonymous No.12764803]

>>12764783
I don't belong to any class you clueless faggot commie. You dont speak for me, we aren't "brothers" we share no demographic, and I would put a bullet in your hollow skull just for a laugh.

Fuck yourself, fuck your garbage ideology, fuck your history of failure and self inflicted victimhood. Die, idiot.

[Anonymous No.12764807]

>>12764784
i suspect have an room temperature IQ you ridiculous cunt

[Anonymous No.12764818]

>>12764807
I suspect you have that as well since you can't even form proper sentences.

[Anonymous No.12764832]

>>12764803
cool story bradley

[Anonymous No.12764942]

>>12764700
Dude check the polls. Boomers are the only non-cucked demo.

[Anonymous No.12765002]

>>12761271
lady, you wouldn't have anything other than bare necessities in whatever hell that roastie envisions.

[Anonymous No.12765006]

>>12763208
>genius libertarian ancap
>free market bros
Enjoy your scorched earth policy corporate overlords and their shit tier lowest cost to manufacture goods and services.

[Anonymous No.12765067]

Tankies are so easily triggered it's like deep down they know they're stupid but just can't accept it.

[Anonymous No.12765509]

>>12761482
>brown girl good

[Anonymous No.12765576]

>>12761507
even if socialiasm is her aim it would never be possible USA is too balkanize at this point to even try to implement a system that requieres the will of all people.
Spangler was right the german is the only race able to implement a real socialist state.

[Anonymous No.12765620]

>>12764274
Lefties think all wealth in the world is a fixed amount and some people or companies having more means they took more from the pot. They literally don't understand that for something to exist somebody has to work for it.

[Anonymous No.12765624]

>>12765067
tankies are cool, retards like cortez who uses socialism as a tool to increase capitalism are the real enemy.

[Anonymous No.12765637]

>>12761286
>American citizens need to benefit more from the success of their companies and products

If they invested they easily could.

[Anonymous No.12765821]

>>12762225
get a load of this tinfoil

[Anonymous No.12766032]

>>12761271
i want to put you in the dirt

[Anonymous No.12766099]

>>12761302
/thread

[Anonymous No.12766217]

>>12761300
>$0 for compulsory tranny indoctrination camps/rape buffets for jamal and mahmoud
>$0 for the latest conversion program to increase wamen firefighters to 50%
>$0 for iconoclastic jewish vagina art installations while gas mains explode and bridges collapse
>$0 for govt-backed 'research' conducted by affirmative actioned minorities with fake phds on how we should start every child on puberty blockers at birth
Wow damn, never knew amazon was this based

[Anonymous No.12766526]

Keep debating eternally. Or do something. Or at least read "Ascent of Humanity" to get out of that dichotomy of socialism / capitalism.