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>be poor eurofag
>make barely 50k a year
>have friend in the same industry from the United States
>he gets recruited from a new company for 80k/year starting
>look up taxes
>he pays 12k less per year than me!
>sales tax 7% - I pay 19% vat on everything
how the fuck DARE you amerilards complain about muh economy, muh lack of jobs. I would literally kill to make whaat my buddy is making and hes like 6 years younger than me too WHAT THE FUCK. Im seriously considering getting a green card and moving over there. be a poor immigrant from shariah controlled europe and show you fat spoiled ungrateful cunts how its done. slam tons of poosay because muh sexy foreign accent and Im actually in shape unlike you lardasses. on another note, what is south carolina like?

>> No.12316169

>>12316143

>19% sales tax

My fucking sides

>> No.12316190

>>12316143
>ur friend gets sick
>goes to hospital
>piles 100k medical debt on top of 70k loans
>job fires him for not coming to work
>doesn't qualify for unemployeement because not showing up 2 days in a row is an acceptable reason for companies to fire someone
>starts begging on street corner for spare change
>gets shot by illegal immigrant gang member

>> No.12316196

>>12316143
Effective tax in the US is 82% and we have no social benefits, the homeless run fill my parking lot, I run a large reseller.

You're welcome. There literally isn't anywhere nice anymore.

>> No.12316202

Im from Spain, In the last 5 years the 99% of the engineers i meet in every company in my city recieved a compensation from 6k to 14k (annual).

and you recieve 50k!!! where are u from?

>> No.12316207

>>12316196

America is good if you’re in the top 10, maybe 20%

Yurop if you’re in the bottom 80-90%

>> No.12316210

>>12316190
he gets health insurance from his job, costs him like 200 a month or something. I pay 700 USD per month here for health insurance.

>>12316196
>Effective tax in the US is 82%
you wot m8?
yeah Ive seen tons of homeless people in the US but here in europistan we have muslims and other shitskins leehing off the welfare state and getting paid to shit out kids. at least you fags get to make some money

>> No.12316218

>>12316207
that may be true but Im literally top 5 in my field (very specialized industry) and make shit money. meanwhile some fucking HR lady makes almost the same money as me even though I make my company millions but here its all about muh equality and not rocking the boat.

>> No.12316220

>>12316143
Stop being a cuck move to america and buy an AR15 faggot

>> No.12316226

>>12316202
islamit republic of germanistan

>> No.12316227

>>12316207
Good how? I can go to a nice restaurant and have sex with more people? I can't drive my German car fast. I get audited every year with threats of going to jail if I fucked up.

I don't see why anyone thinks that they have an real rights. The top .001% that can have multiple passports and court governments have some actual freedom but no one else does.

>> No.12316230

>>12316143
>be eurocuck
>wife gets raped by muslims
>she likes it and gets aids
>she files for divorce and child support
>have to pay $6000 a month for halfling kids of hers
>she dies but not soon enough
>keep paying support to her cunt mom and unrelated kids forever
>pray for own death
>"no", says Allah
>"le kek" says Allah

>> No.12316242

>>12316210
If you can't go back to work after you get sick, you're fired and lose your insurance you mong

>> No.12316243

>>12316218

Then leave. There’s a reason none of the FAANG’s are from Europe. It’s a great place to be if you’re mediocre

>> No.12316252

>>12316143
Nothing is stopping you from becoming an American today

>> No.12316256

>>12316202
People in Spain work less than 3 hours a day.. so you can't really compare it to other countries (exception being Greece and Italy)

>> No.12316260

>>12316190
>anon gets sick in EU
>goes to the hospital
>hospital is full because of welfare colectors and old people - muh "free" healthcare
>he dies
death and taxes indeed

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>Be American
>Have the chance to train for a 100k a year starting job
>instead opt for SCIENCE
>stay in school forever being poor
>europoors complaining that they'd rather be trained slaves instead of embellishing knowledge

>> No.12316264

>>12316242
why is everybody so obsessed with health insurance? I have never been to the hospital in my life, I never go to the doctor, I pay all my dental assignments out of own pocket. if I ever get seriously sick I could return to germany and would be taken care of anyway. and if I pay less taxes I can actually save some money and take care of my own bills. but here in Germany they steal everything and give it to niggers and muslims. you amerilards really need to start appreciating what you have going on over there.

>> No.12316280

>>12316227

Go to a private track if you want to drive fast. You’re not gonna go to jail for tax evasion unless you do it on purpose or really fuck up somehow.

America is fucking great if you can make at least six figures. Being blue collar or an office peon sucks though

>> No.12316289

>>12316280
>America is fucking great if you can make at least six figures
and how hard is that to make for you fags. a trucker or prison guard can make six figures. here in germany maybe some doctors make that much money.. MAYBE. my uncle runs the entire building department for an entire German state and he gets to take home like 5 grand, thsi country is a fucking joke.

>> No.12316302

>>12316289

Not terribly hard but still only about 1 in 10 murricans make 100k+

>> No.12316309

>>12316302
but half of your people are niggers and spics so they dont really count. in other words 1/5 white americans makes 100 grand you should be thanking the lord for your good fortunes every day.

>> No.12316332

>>12316256
true these spaniards are lazy as fuck, even 16k annual is still too much pay for them.

>> No.12316355

so amerilards please enlighten me. Whats south carolina like?
can you really walk down the street with an AK47 and smoke a blunt of legal medical marijuana? do they still hang niggers from trees there? holy shit it sounds better the more I think about it

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>>12316143
America is only good if you make 7 figures or more. Other than that you're just falling for propaganda and memes. A lot of this country has turned into 3rd world status.

Why do you think trumps slogan of "Make America Great AGAIN" was so popular?

Please don't tell me you learned about america by watching Hollywood movies or from viewing traveling brochures.

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>>12316143
But at least you got free healthcare, right? Your poor American friend probably has to pay 1.5% of his income towards health insurance each year.

>> No.12316537

>>12316143
19% vat?? Dont complain dude, here it is 24%

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>>12316468
>Please don't tell me you learned about america by watching Hollywood movies or from viewing traveling brochures.
no Ive actually been there before and have friends and family who live there. Im guessing youve never been to yurop though

>>12316479
DELET!!!!

>> No.12316554

>>12316537
germany has the second highest taxes in the EU and the lowest private wealth per household. we are literally a nation of cucks even lazy spaniards and greek have more money than us

>> No.12316591

A €50k job in the EU is equal to a 100k job in the US

you have to factor in buying power, food, insurance, taxes and other shit

>> No.12316609

>>12316539
Yeah never been to europe. Also the south is filled with blacks too. Maybe some spots where its a majority white but they're far and few. and out of those few spots most of them are filled with white trash crack heads. so yeah, its not the same country it was 70+ years ago.

>> No.12316642

>>12316479
Lol we‘ll talk again when you get your face bashed in through a car accident, your child is develops leukemia or you toss a nog trying to steal your wallet off a balcony because you turned around in surprise.
Insurance isn‘t necessary for a flu or a sprained ankle, you know?
Have fun without

>> No.12316643

>>12316609
true the niggers are a real problem. but they are spreading in Germany too plus we have all these fucking muslims and turkroaches

>> No.12316650

Germany has better, cheaper healthcare, better education, better culture, better job security, and is amazing compared to muttmerica in almost every regard. There are millions of people in the world that would KILL to live here.

And you wanna trade all of this for a bit more money? Get the fuck out of Germany then, piss off idiot

You'll come crawling back like you auswanderers always do.

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>>12316643
Yeah, You're not safe anywhere. Welcome to the current year.

>> No.12316668

>>12316650
There are millions of people in the world that would KILL to live here.
yeah and we are allowing them all in to live off wealthfare. you sound like the typical German cuck Im trying to get away from.

>> No.12316709

>>12316642
The odds of your bullshit scenarios happening are quite slim. I'll take my chances and enjoy the benefit of having more disposable income for a bigger house, nicer car, investments, etc.

>> No.12316710

>>12316650
This guy gets it. But I‘m sure OP wouldn‘t have the balls to move anywhere. Deep down he knows that he‘s living in one of the safest places on earth and he‘s only trying to please the /pol/ tards who have never even set foot on this glorious land.

>> No.12316715

>>12316662
It's usually pretty obvious where the niggers are. Any nigs you encounter outside of major southern cities, including DC, are usually functioning humans. Mestizos are what you need to worry about. They devalue a whole neigborhood faster than you can say "burrito." Also, Somali refugees are a major fucking issue if he wants to live in MN or Maine.

>> No.12316740

>>12316710
nigga I already lived in Eastern Europe and South East Asia. what have you done with your shitty live? americans might be retarded fatties but the smug european cuckery is even worse. you fags are jerking each other off while everything our ancestors bled for is going down the drain.

>> No.12316743

>>12316709
>bullshit scenarios
>I‘m a fat American who has never even heard of statistics
Holy shit you‘re retarded. But have it your way. Good luck playing darts blindfolded, maybe you‘ll get a bull‘s eye, who knows? More probable than dodging all the possible insurance cases for 80-100 years.

>> No.12316768

>>12316554
spaniards work harder than you for a fraction of what you lazy nazis make.
not to mention all the social programs and neet money you faggets have. fuck off kartofel.

>> No.12316777

>>12316768
>hard working spaniards
lol good one

>> No.12316778

>>12316743
You can't even produce said statistics to your bullshit scenarios. Keep coping, Yuropoor.

>> No.12316796

>>12316650
>There are millions of people in the world that would KILL to live here
Yeah, kill the natives.

>> No.12316838

>>12316642
Most functioning Americans have health insurance faggot. Only 8.6% don't. The ones who aren't niggers of that 8.6% made a conscious choice not to have insurance. The rage and fury over insurance is a fucking scam by these companies to receive further subsidy from the government, kind of like how they do in Germany.

>> No.12316898

>>12316778
It seems like >>12316743 assumes, as most easily fooled poors do, that Americans have no fucking insurance whatsoever when less than 10% of the millions of people living in the US are uninsured. As a comparison, niggers comprise ~12% (quickly declining), and there are people living here who have never seen a nigger in person in their entire lives. I only know people 3rd-4th hand who have had to pay medical bills at all, and I know nobody who is uninsured.

Keep shilling for insurance company subsidies though.

>> No.12317085

>>12316591

>europoors honestly believe this

>> No.12317094

>>12316143
>T. Buttmad poo in loo

>> No.12317131

>>12316143
Do it. Amerimutt girls love foreign European men. They'll let you nut inside them and you can marry them and become us citizen

>> No.12317153

>>12317131
no joke I was in the US last year and had several hot girls hit on me in really blatant way. that never, evver happens to me back home.

>> No.12317460

>>12316260
You burgers got at least this shit correct.
In Europe old boomer grandma feels lonely so she packs her bags and goes to hospital to have a social contact and nurses to pamper her.

>> No.12317509

>>12316591
fucking where nigga
in Romania or Bulgaria, it's a baller status
But be a doctor in gerrmany
Make 4.000/ month
- 1.250 fucking taxes
- 1.250 rent
- 300 food
Wow fucking 1200 euros net, when you can have 800 by gibs alone.

>> No.12317520

>>12316260
Except the US healthcare system produces worse outcomes in addition to being prohibitively expensive.

>> No.12317588

>>12316264

>I'm guaranteed healthcare for life in my home country
>why are people who don't have that guarantee complaining

Gee i wonder

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>>12317153
das wundert mich nicht

>> No.12317609

>>12316355

You sound retarded so you'd probably fit right in. Consider Mississippi.

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>>12316143
You aren't citizens, you're subjects. The sooner you break these shackles the sooner you can compete and actually outpace America. Until then, kneel and kiss the ring, you plebeian peasant.

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>>12316143

South Carolinian here. It depends. We have a lot, I mean A LOT, of niggers, but that's because niggers used to be for sale here. The store "closed down" per se but there's still lots of errant inventory causing trouble.

The living cost is insanely cheap. Low gas taxes, low food tax, and you can get an Antebellum historic property for less than ~$80 a square foot.

The beaches here are where they filmed the Forrest Gump Vietnam scenes if that gives you any idea of what the coast looks like. Low country food is also delicious -- you'll be a lardass like us in no time. If you like history there's Charleston so you can visit and feel like you're still in Europe if you'd like. Also while not in South Carolina, Savannah is nearby which is cool. Above us we have Charlotte so if you want to see a bunch of new money bankers from Ohio pretend they're rich and cultured you can be a part of that.

There are some shitty places and some nice places but if you're looking to be left the fuck alone and do whatever while living cheaply and near some beautiful beaches and mountains then the Carolinas are a good choice.

>> No.12319221

>>12316143
Did it never occur to you that there's a reason every person from Europe who was smart or ambitious left for America?
Your nations are unironically the leftover coward genetics of the people we didn't kill in the world wars

>> No.12319444

>>12316143
>>be poor eurofag
>>make barely 50k a year

Seriously you call yourself poor eurofag at 50k/year?
Also a Eurofag here and all i can expect straight outta college (or without is) $7k/year (Pretty much any low level office job)
If you fucking strike find a really great offer, you can expect $10k/year
Inb4 get degree; then still even with something like it IT Programming degree you can expect at best $13k/year and that is with like few year experience

>>I pay 19% vat on everything

I pay fucking 23% at everything, You invest money huh? fuck you pay the greddy and corrupt goverment 10%

Want fucking more? Even if you earn around $7k/year after taxes it is roughly $10k/year before taxes thats fucking 30% of what you earn going to goverment. Whats more the cost for employer is ridiculous $12k thats 42% of your money going to gov, and it fucking scales pretty much linearly.

You might say -but you have free healthcare. Yeah with waiting list to specialists like anywhere from couple months to OVER A FUCKING YEAR.

Social benefits? Only for some pathology hill billies, they can get social apartment and there is this new hot social project that fucked over our economy with huge budget deficit:
This idiots figured out it will be good idea to give 130$/mnth for every child in families with more than 1 kid (You can get that benefit for first child if you have small enough income) You guessed this produced more pathology hillbilly-rednecks who spend all of that for drugs and alcohol you can basically have 1/4 of what realistically can earn working hard.

As you might have guessed this cost our budget a lot, and government obviously took that money from small-medium sized businesses.


So this is how living in poland looks like, we would have been better of without independence after WW2 as a part of Germany...

I could have only it worse if I was born in fucking africa/India or other shithole...

>> No.12319538

>>12316143
Socialism is good though anon. Without socialism who would support all the sand niggers colonizing Europe right in front of your eyes?

>> No.12319628

>>12316264
We do. It's always poor eurofags on this board that bring up muh health insurance because it's all they have. Truth is if you have a halfway decent job you get a group rate that is a few hundred per month max. Mine is 100% paid by my employer. These scenarios of people getting sick and going into massive debt are extremely rare.

>> No.12319931

>>12316143
How’s that socialism working out you fucking Eurotrash?

>> No.12320821

>ivy league cs degree
>silicon valley job
>taxes and cost of living literally destroy 75% of my salary
>literally sleeping in the same room as my refrigerator
>all tech companies actively pajeetifying entire workforce
>bragging about building huge campuses overseas in investor reports
>either have to launch a start up, or get an mba to wage slave on wall street
if you only knew how bad things really are

>> No.12320921

>>12316650
have fun with your refugees replacing your dwindling population
>mfw average german IQ drops by 20 pts
at least the smart immigrants come to america creating emerald cities like silicon valley

>> No.12320930

>>12316143
Health care

>> No.12320933

>>12320821
>>either have to launch a start up,
and he finally gets it

>> No.12320940

>>12316190
>get sick in the UK
>go to NHS
>get put on 16 month waiting list because of all the fucking poorfags and immigrants exploiting the system

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https://youtu.be/FeNYjYA2lVg

>> No.12320983

>>12320821
Nice larping. If you actually had a Silicon Valley job you would be saving six figures post tax per year.

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>>12316143
fuck off faggot

>> No.12321134

>>12320933
I'm networking every free moment I have, but so is everyone else

>>12320983
>saving six figures
>after taxes
>in silicon valley
boomer detected

>> No.12321177

>>12321134
Nope. I'm a zoomer. Born in 1998. Skipped a few grades.

>> No.12321216

>>12321134
Nigger, Silicon Valley fags are cruising around in Mercs and when they finally quit their jobs they move to Portland and pay for a $300k house in cash.

>> No.12321225

>>12320983
Ever live in NYC or SF? 3k a month for a non roach infested cuck closet. Plus a lot of compensation (can be >50%) tied up in equity that vests over several years.

>> No.12321253

>>12317520
>better all cause mortality rate in literally everything
>all the best ranked hospitals in the world with all the top surgeons
>yuropoors come here for treatment because their commiecare is shit and they're dying in droves when not being raped by Ahmed
Stay mad.

>> No.12321631

>>12321216
>>12321216
Starting pay for most engineers is like 120-200k. They can't afford the houses where they live so they usually roommate it or get condos.
They can't put down roots where they're living. If you look at it as doing your time to stack money then it's not so bad but they're basically FAANG peasants.

>> No.12321661

Also you yuropoors delusion about health insurance is pathetic. If you're a white collar professional you can get decent insurance here. If you're a wagie stay in EU. Quit working while you're at it.

>> No.12321707

>>12316218
HR is the biggest meme job of all time.
And they make you to do all bunch of stupid shit just to make their job look legitimate and useful.

>> No.12321716

>>12316252
Except being white

>> No.12321730

>>12317520
that's actually true and it isn't brought up enough

>> No.12321748

>>12317460
this happens in the US as well, but it doesn't get in anyone's way or impact anyone else's care thankfully

>> No.12321755

>>12321253
>>better all cause mortality rate in literally everything
except that's not true at all, the US ranked behind all of Europe when it comes to infant mortality rate on birth:
https://www.infoplease.com/world/health-and-social-statistics/infant-mortality-rates-countries
Stay retarded Americuck

>> No.12321879

>>12321755
Honestly I'd blame it all on obesity.
You can have the best doctors but if an amerilard whale is the patient you'll have a worse outcome.

>> No.12322371

>>12316252
Aside from the president being a no immigration guy.

>> No.12323548 [DELETED] 

>>12318120
sounds pretty good man, thanks.
charleston is actually where my employer has its office and it looks pretty nice. Im gonna fly out there in march and scope out the place.

>>12319444
>polefag whining
at least you dont have muslims. hitl0r offered you fags peace but you had to keep butchering germans and do the britfags bidding to get a war started. cant say I feel to sympathetic to your plight anon.

>> No.12323577

>>12322371
the company I work for works with the best immigration lawyers in the states and they brought in several people from europe already. but they tell me its a complete nightmare, the last girl (from UK) they wanted to bring in almost got denied because she was too educated having a university degree. meanwhile pablo just walks in over the border and pajeet and his cousins spam the hb1 lottery... yes its a fucking lottery and pajeets just fill up all the slots by applying in massive numbers. your entire immigration system is a complete shitshow I would have an easier time immigrating illegally and living off the grid than going through legal channels and paying my taxes.

>> No.12323596

>>12318120
sounds pretty nice man. might be worth it to work there for a couple of years to stack bread and then go back home buy a house or whatever.

>>12319444
at least you dont have muslims
also hitl0r offered you polefags peaace but you had to keep butchering germans and do the britfags bidding to get a war started.