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In 2019? I’ll be leaving the internet as a whole behind. The internet as a tool to avoid anxiety and other uncomfortable thoughts is a destructive crutch. I’ve also become comically socially isolated because the internet allows me to distract myself for hours and hours each day while I’m alone. I went months without speaking to others at one point, this simply wouldn’t be possible without the internet as I would’ve went completely insane.

Who else is leaving the internet behind? If you think there’s something you’re going to find on this site that will make your life better, I’ll save you thousands and thousands of wasted hours: you won’t. There can be helpful advice on here but most of it is bullshit from other people with issues just as bad or worse than your own. It’s time to let it go.

If it makes you feel any better, the internet as a whole has become shit and is rapidly becoming worse. Almost all traffic is centralizing around a few shitty sites and the culture on those sites is absolute shit. Endless thought terminating cliches (black women GIFs, Twitter “clapbacks”, rampant censorship of anything but bizarre ass backwards views of how things work (on the internet everyone has a mental illness, on the internet black women are considered wise sages when in reality they are the fattest dumbest group etc.), a rising “meme culture” which is just comparing two things using an image template, whores posting their asses next to inspirational quotes, it’s all just a sad and depressing place. None of this stupid shit even matters in day to day life either, we both know that this is all a huge waste of time in the end.

It’s time to let it all go. Who else will be leaving for good soon?

>> No.12239265

>>12239257
See you in Jan 1th sirs

>> No.12239271

speak for yourself anon. i haven't interacted with people in 1 1/2 years.

>> No.12239278

>>12239257
Not gonna make it

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>>12239257
dumping

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>>12239257

good luck anon, best wishes for your internet free future

>> No.12239293

>>12239265
I’ve already successfully left other sites. It’s not easy but I know I can do it. I need to get off the internet for good.

>>12239271
After months of little to no interaction the first time I spoke to someone and we both laughed was like pure bliss. The rush I got just from making someone smile was enough to keep me motivated for the next week at least. Just from one conversation. I can’t insgine what years would be like.

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>>12239287
God speed, and good luck to you.

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>> No.12239310

>>12239257
Today was my first time using 4chan in almost a year. I've learned tons of useful information here, and had great times but it does suck you in and mostly wastes your time.

As for the rest of what you wrote ... That's limited to unhealthy parts of social media and the internet, you don't HAVE to use 4chan and twitter or whatever. You can just read the blogs that have valuable information pertaining to what you're interested in. You can just avoid the negative crap and stick with the productive sources and mediums of information.

Also using 4chan doesn't mean you have to be an obese NEET that never goes outside.

>> No.12239312

>>12239257
I was offline from June through November, it was great. No home internet, no smartphone, just a library card for when I needed to do some online chores or get books/DVDs.
Pros: broke internet addiction, didn't see porn for six months, went from NEET to part time wagecuck, spent my free time playing guitar, learning auto repair, reading, watching classic films, having game nights with friends, and exercising.
Cons: the transition period is jarring, I found myself staring at the wall in the morning trying to figure out how to use my newfound time. Also it really weirds people out if you tell them, getting a gf would be tricky if I wasn't permanently tfwnogf
I'm only online because my parents are visiting for Christmas and reconnected it for the month. I'll be offline all of 2019 brother. We will work wonders.

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It's tough because I waste a lot of time shitposting here but learn a lot of stuff too. I don't use social media and all that shit is annoying. I donno. I'd like to quit the internet but I've grown up with it, so it's a part of me.

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>> No.12239369

>>12239278
Maybe not, but I at least have to try.

>>12239292
Thanks brother

>>12239294
>>12239304
>>12239313
Thank you. The fear of others has held me back for all my adult life. I can’t let it happen any longer.

>>12239312
That’s great to here. Just about everyone I’ve ever known in life, no matter how gay, how ugly, how poor, has had a girlfriend. I’ve literally never come across someone who can’t get a single girl. Just continue working on socializing and putting yourself out there and you’ll make it.

>>12239310
I agree man, but it’s been years of time wasted on the internet and nothing productive has ever come from it. Some theoretical person with great discipline could only use the positives of the internet, but I know myself well enough to say I can’t. It’s not for me.

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>>12239369
>Some theoretical person with great discipline could only use the positives of the internet, but I know myself well enough to say I can’t. It’s not for me.

That's true. Well in that case go do it anon you're not getting any younger, take as big of a break from the internet as you can and we'll still be here a year or two from now. Your self-control and discipline might be much better by then.

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>>12239257
I only use 4chan while pretending to work in my wagecage

>> No.12239385

>>12239369
Oh I had a gf of many years, it ended in betrayal. Now I'm like someone who got bit by a dog, I know they're not all bad but can't forget the pain.

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>> No.12239399

>>12239257
I won't ever leave the Internet behind. But I'm going to limit the amount of time I spend online. I made a list of different shit I want to do offline along with how many hours to spend on it.

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>>12239403

>>12239399
That's what I said in 08'.

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>>12239313
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>>12239424
yea im not reading these reddit caps

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>>12239440
/dump

From the bottom of my heart OP, find your way back. There is no hope for the great lot of us here.

>> No.12239462

>>12239257
I know what youre saying op but if I were you id stick around to see what crypto does in a financial/inflation crisis. We seem to be right on the threshold of finding out if crypto can adopted and leaving now would be selling the bottom ao to speak. Golden bull run greatest trasfer of wealth in history is not a meme if it gets adoption

>> No.12239466

>>12239452
those were sad and gave me bad feels

still got 3 left

>> No.12239469

can't
fucked up 2017 too much by staying offline for the most part. still recovering

>> No.12239470

>>12239257
How will I trade?

>> No.12239473

I work in a factory for 12 hours a day and am on call pretty much 24/7. I have a family to support and will probably work this job till i die. 4chan is the only person I can talk to.

>> No.12239485

>>12239470
Call your broker

>> No.12239561

>>12239432
Just trading one egotistical pursuit for another. The self doesn't grow, only the ego grows. The ego is what causing suffering by causing attachment to external illusions. Only awareness is true, and through awareness, the present is joyfully experienced without conditionality, and from a good present comes a great future. Don't be ambitious, be joyous, be present.

>> No.12239562

>>12239257
You're right but internet is a basic necessity you can't really live without it anymore I think just because of the fair share of digitalization we had in society for basic services.

Just quit watching porn and quit 4chan(nel)

The times that I have been completely isolated from the world has been some of the greatest times. Its great to live in a small world again where you don't hear about bullshit thats happening in places of the world that aren't even relevant to you. I've gone without news for over a year now and its great not being informed on anything, you're litterly missing nothing at all. It's always the bad shit they report anyway.

>> No.12239616

>>12239265
This. None of you niggers is ever leaving.

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>>12239257
Goodbye fren. I'll come with you though. Perhaps we will meet someday on the other side.

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Knowledge is power.

Read the book "The Shallows" by Nicholas Carr to get an understanding behind the phenomenon of Internet addiction. A good community is https://reddit.com/r/nosurf

Second, start taking steps now to rid yourself of porn and masturbation addiction. You can read how to recover from porn and masturbation addiction over at https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/quitting-porn/

>> No.12239691

>>12239304
>my mind is filled with stories that never happened. I didn't live my life.
Fuck.

>> No.12239715

>>12239257
You think cutting things out of your already empty life will somehow improve it

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>biggest library of human knowledge ever created

>this tard wants to remove it from his life

>> No.12239727

good luck OP. the internet is unhealthy for normies, so you're making the right choice
not using the word as a backhanded insult. most posters here are normies, and in their typical quest to be different, cling to a "special" identity. but they're not special, and their denial hurts them
you will unironically make it OP

>> No.12239734

>>12239473

Real talk.

>> No.12239745

>>12239257

Yes. The 4channel changes have finished it off, and honestly since the jannies have no intention of cleaning up the paid shills and /leftypol/ raids, I'm out. Time to go to cripple full-time, this was the last board I was coming here for anyway.

>> No.12239755

>>12239745
Does it have a /biz/ that's active?

>> No.12239795

Lmfaoooo

>> No.12239808

>>12239724
Knowledge of what exactly? The vast majority of the internet is porn, games and other assorted mindless entertainment. Perhaps 0.5 percent of it has any value at all.

>> No.12239811

>>12239745
The fact that /biz/ isnt autistically moderated by power hungry janitors is one of the best parts about it. Kys reddditor

>> No.12239901

OP i know that feel. been working on some sort of explanation of this myself...basically there's a recursive loop between the type of person you are, and the websites you visit. replace "websites you visit" with behavior, food, etc. You are what you do. You are what you eat. You are what you consume. If you're a frustrated person filled with hatred and angst, then 4chan will naturally ensnare you over time and you'll end up shitposting along with us every day. that's how it happened to me. call it "nihilism" or "cynicism" or whatever, but we both supply it to each other and feed off it. supply and demand. this is one of the few sites that we can vent and say shit that would get us banned or fired in real life (if i had a wagie position that is). as for the useful information, like many have pointed out, you need very good reading skills to filter out the 10,000+ garbage threads and posts to find the 1 or 2 insightful posts. i feel like the golden age of /biz/ is over, or at least on a long break, for now. browsing and taking /biz/ advice serious (buy btc, buy eth, buy fucking antshares, etc.) would've been lucrative in the early 2014-2017 run. now it's basically a place to shitpost just like other boards. if you didn't short the fucking dec 2018 dump in stocks, or buy puts, or if you didn't buy and short btc and other shitcoins at the right times, then it's basically too late now. there's really not much left for now...there might be new shit later but right now it's feeling quite bleak for 2019. so yeah, i think it's a good idea to take an internet break, specifically away from "hateful" sites if you no longer want to be that type of person. i come here to relax and joke but many times i end up getting mad online.

>> No.12239907

Honestly, Youtube is worse than 4channel

watching videos you want to watch is fine in koderation, but aimlessly clicking videos to find something interesting is literal brain cancer

>> No.12239916

>>12239452
thanks for the dump, read and re-read many of them. reminds me of that one /tv/ screengrab about how anons are just going to /tv/ to discuss how much money jews are making on movies, or if they take a slight loss when something flops. its all a pointless waste of time. we come here to socialize but we end up somehow getting pulled into useless drama, or caring about useless shit like how much profit kikes are making. if you want to live a happy and healthy life, go out and do stuff. start your own business. improve your health, etc. you already know that's what's "good". if it makes you a normalfag, so be it...

>> No.12239975

>>12239907
>4channel
Oh yeah why am I here again?

>> No.12239983

why would i leave, i have nothing else in my life

just wagecucking and sleeping

>> No.12240012

>>12239395

This one has been posted before and unironically it has helped me tremendously.

>> No.12240022

>>12239257
why ? because someone else told you ?
>orange internet bad
do what you want faggot and not what other people consider normal or fulfilling. And what are you gonna do instead, go live in the woods ? Internet is the only fun thing in my life, without it I would've blown my brains out a long time ago

>> No.12240027

>>12239452
good dump

>> No.12240151

>>12239452
Nice dump. This was one of the better ones as well

>> No.12240172

>>12239452
Now that I think about it how come you know this and believe it enough to save and dump here? Add to it Anon. Hope you figure it out. Merry Xmas.

>> No.12240183

That’s cool but real life is Unironically pretty shitty so I’ll stick to this for now

>> No.12240225

>>12239257
Now see this caliber of post is the reason i could never quit biz for good. as long as enough of you smart anons don't follow through with the perennial goodbye to shithole i wasted my life on posts.

>> No.12240278

>>12239304
This is some deep shit. Thank you for that. I need to do stuff! Go gym and lose weight

>> No.12240341

>>12240278
>>12239257
I already did the self improvement meme 2 years ago. Didn't do anything. As bad as being a NEET/Hikki is, work is far, far worse.

Read the the long version here:
>>12215938

>> No.12240365

>>12240341
Oh come on, I remember reading that thread. I think you're over exaggerating.

You seem to be alot more braver and have balls than most of us.

What work do you do?

Go volunteer for your LOCAL town or local area.

>> No.12240390

>>12240341
>Inb4 I already said I tried and used to volunteer.


That's the point. You quit everything too easily. Just because nothing happens in a few weeks, doesn't mean you stop and quit.

Keep at it and going on and on. Perseverance is key

>> No.12241036

>>12239257
>If it makes you feel any better, the internet as a whole has become shit and is rapidly becoming worse.
this is unfortunately very true. I pretty much grew up on the interwebs and been online since the 90s. Its all going to absolute shit. Ive been reading a lot more books lately since tehres simply no more interesting shit to be found online.

>> No.12241084

dont be so dramatic this shithole is still pretty great just cut it down to 1hr per day or something

>> No.12241258

>>12239257
the internet teaches u everything, i laughed way to much on 4chan

>> No.12241273

>>12239257
>>12239257

Cashing out all my shitcoins and leaving this place forever

>> No.12241278

>>12239292
my wife

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>>12239257
You need to find a balance and I bet just limiting your internet usage to hour a day would be much more beneficial. The positive side of this is you don't relapse into your old habits when you finally get online and learn to discipline yourself. Completely cutting yourself out of the best invetions humans have ever created doesn't seem like a viable solution.

>> No.12241425

>>12241296

Yes, just think about all the enlightenment most of humanity is missing out on because they can’t read “BRAAAAAAAAAP” posts and get shilled into buying fake internet tokens

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>dont use 4chan for a week
>spend days outside
>other people are kind (even blacks)
>most women dont act like /r9k/ says
>normies in the park enjoying children and friends
>have never even seen a trannie or sjw

get out and make a life before its too late

>> No.12241501

>>12241474

Try living in a city

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I hate that I ever found this place.

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>>12239257
You are forever, don't you know?

>> No.12241644

>>12241637
*here

>> No.12241652

>>12241474
Where do you live? Please I need this. I live in MA between Worcester and Boston. Living is agony.

>> No.12241667

Many of these solid posts come from 2016-2017 era 4chan, where Jewish accelerationism wasn't even as strong as it is one year later.

Holy FUCK times were different just in the shitty Christmas movies we watch as nostalgia from 20 years ago.

>> No.12241678

>>12241652
Fuck. I have to move to upstate CT soon.

Please tell me I'll be ok

>> No.12241679

>>12239257
WE ARE THE 4CHANNEL MARINES AND WE ARE NEVER LEAVING. WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER

>> No.12241694

>>12241678
Avoid Hartford or any towns near Springfield, MA.

>> No.12241718

>>12239257
I won't lie I agree. Recently I've began reading fantasy books and it's so much more fun than any videos games I've ever played. I can't completely go off the internet cause I'm a student but I'm gonna cut down

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>>12239257
Good idea, i think ill stop browsing 4chan in 2019, but maybe visit /biz/ if theres a bullrun just for the fun of it. Im also tired of seeing cuck porn on every fucking board i go to.

>> No.12241755

I’m gonna limit my browsing to 1-2 hours a day in 2019 because this place can be quite toxic for your psyche due to crab bucket mentality mostly from incels, but as a white collar wage cuck with 5-6 hours of free time during a typical workday I can fuck off on mr.shekelburgs dollar and not feel bad about it. Gonna continue reading more e-books during the day as well but I don’t see a reason to leave. I’ve learned a shit ton of things from this site and don’t mind passing along the knowledge to other anons trying to make it.

>> No.12241836

>>12241755
It’s just wagecucks “passing on their “knowlege”” now. Time to leave

>> No.12241871

You can go to the internet most of the day but force yourself to do sport once a day outside. Best is going to the gym.

That is a good compromise.

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>>12239440
>As long as he can exercise his will, he does not care if the outcome is positive or negative

>> No.12241916

People always say they want to stop. No one understands what it is to stop.

Stopping doesn't let you undo things. It doesn't give you a second chance. When you stop, you simply come to a sudden halt. Now you're sitting there, silent, unmoving, in the middle of nowhere, with so many others just casually going past you.

That's not what you wanted, but that's what you asked for, and it's what you got after you complained enough times.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNDA-o9yJNw

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>>12241916
>Now you're sitting there, silent, unmoving, in the middle of nowhere
one day

>> No.12242062

im only 18 yo and i feel stuck in a loop

i either change myself or kms. dont want to be 40 yo with nothing to remember

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>>12239257
>In 2019? I’ll be leaving the internet as a whole behind.

i did this for a year some years ago.
still wasnt talking to anyone and was reading books instead being on the internet.

>> No.12242319

>>12240390
I did it for 2 years.

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>>12239257
>>12239287
>>12239294
>>12239304
Reading through these posts hit me in the feels. But although there are undoubtedly negative aspects of the internet and 4chan I'm not sure it's right to blame these things as the sole cause of your life not being the way you want it. I think there is a strong genetic component in people who tend towards a solitary lifestyle. I'm not a neet, I'm a failed normie: I have a wagecuck job, keep healthy and have friends but at the same time I share the neet feels of not being able to relate to relate to anyone in the real world and if I didn't have as much discipline I would go full neet and spend all my free time on here (I actually did this for about a year). For the majority of people it seems like they can't wait for the weekend to socialize and get drunk etc but for me that's the last thing I want to do and just feels like more work and effort. I can't relate to peoples excitement for these things and I can't relate to conversation topics revolving around gossip and what people are doing and who said what etc. I imagine when most people get messages on their phones they feel excitement and can't wait to respond (hence why they're always on them) but for me my heart sinks and I just think "oh fuck now I've got to respond". I feel like a total alien but talking to people on here makes me feel like a human and like I'm not mad.

I don't know what my point is but >>12240341 seems like a bit of a blackpill truth. The self improvement meme won't automatically make you happy if you are one of these introverted 4chan type personalities then digging deep and forcing yourself to do basic normie things (keeping healthy, talking to people, not being a neet) then you might hate yourself less and at least your family etc won't be ashamed of you. If you have that empty no-emotion sort of feeling (it's not even depression I don't know what it is) then you might as well be feeling it whilst pretending to be a normie. Discipline>motivation

>> No.12242476

>>12242370
this >>12242137 is another example of my point. Stopping doing the things you enjoy doing won't magically make you start doing the things you wish you enjoyed doing. You have to force yourself to do normie things instead and chances are you won't magically enjoy them just by doing them. It's a blackpill for sure - some people just aren't sociable.

I suppose the best thing to do is to make peace with the aspects of your personality that you can't change and cultivate the discipline to change the aspects that you can: develop healthy habits, etc. - this means forcing yourself to do the things you wish you wanted to do even if you think they're ultimately pointless. Bonus: find a girl who is also anti-social and misanthropic (extremely rare - especially physically attractive ones) and bond over your shared sense of alienation from society

>> No.12242507

>>12242370
>>12242476
You see many posts on here from people who are too far gone - DON'T BECOME LIKE THIS. You can blame the normies for being dumb and like sheep or hedonistic or NPCs or whatever but they look at you and think lazy, loser, miserable, unhygenic, etc. It's too easy to develop defence mechanisms to avoid facing these criticisms: calling all women roasties before they get a chance to reject you, calling all normies dumb because they're not an enlightened depressed neet like you, etc. Even if it's true (it's not) there's no practical benefit of holding these beliefs

>> No.12242577

>>12242476
>>12242507
Problem is you can force your self to do stuff you don't want to do up until you realize you're not doing what you want and basically torturing yourself to meet society's expectations. Once the expected pay off of self improvement fails to materialize such as friends and a GF, you start wondering how much more time you can waste being a wanna-be normie.

>> No.12242589

>>12239257
OP you need to look up "how to become an hero" it will help i promise

>> No.12242636

ITT: Faggots who post screencaps of internet-sages telling them to leave the internet while other faggots join in the circle-jerk to agree; but we know they won't leave anyway.

>> No.12242658

>>12242636
>babby's first sage: Just get off the internet :^)
>enlightened sage: Get back on, it's worse out there.

>> No.12242907

I hope this thread comes in the archive forever. I am feeling more and more empty inside, abandoned my hobbies more and more and replaced them with TV, social media and mindless browsing. How do I get out of this circle? I feel like not all hope is lost because I still have some friends, can socially interact and am not 0/10 ugly.

>> No.12242926

>>12239384
are you me?

>> No.12243132

>>12242577
>you start wondering how much more time you can waste being a wanna-be normie.
yes but the alternative is worse IMO. I'd rather be a depressed wanna-be normie with hope than a depressed neet loser who's given up all hope, even if hope seems futile

>> No.12243162

>>12241652

Rural Florida

>> No.12243177

>>12241755

if you stay on the blue boards (4channel) its not that bad. the schizophrenia comes from the red boards

>> No.12243179

>>12239257
I'm just gonna stop watching porn for as long as I can

>> No.12243189

>>12239257
Sometime I don't visit 4chan for months but not more than that. It's a fun place

>> No.12243272

>>12239257
Good luck anon, the year i took off the internet was one of the happiest and most productive of my life. The withdraw symptoms last about 1-2 months before you stop thinking about it. if you can make it through those, you will very likely find yourself feeling as happy as people once were before the internet consumed us all. you'll eventually return because you need to use it for email

>> No.12243296

>>12239808
T.doesntreadtheIDW

>> No.12243438

>>12242370
ugly face

>> No.12243563

>>12239312
goddamn. Sounds like the dream.

>> No.12243621

>>12241836
Hey man the goal is to escape being a wage cuck and when I make it I’m sure I’ll have useful info for others trying to escape the cycle
>>12243177
It’s really not bad I just wish nerds would stop Thot-posting for attention and (you)’s so it’s easier to stay strong avoiding porn. We’re all gonna make it brehs.

>> No.12243916

>>12239257
I'm leaving it January 4th