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Nearly all of you bizlet serfs have had the wool completely and utterly pulled over your eyes

I bet nearly all of you didnt even realize this even exists

http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm

You really think some con man like Craig Wright single handedly made bitcoin in his basement? Fuck no, CIA/NSA had the best of their cryptographers, mathematicians and programmers create bitcoin. Why? Because they wanted control of the financial market and to be able to track and record all transactions, which bitcoin fulfills. Bitcoin isn’t anonymous you fucking idiots.

If you say CIA created bitcoin on bitcointalk org you’re permabanned and your post is deleted.

The elite have successfully used their CIA/NSA dark program officers to create the first one-world currency. And /biz/ bought it hook, line, and sinker. Now I’m not saying that there isnt money to be made, there is money to be made. But keep in mind that you’re playing their game and that they are the rule-makers, referees and coaches of said game. They are the mega whales and hold nearly all the coins, granting them the capability to dump or pump as they see fit. They simply dumped last Christmas to let their friends accumulate more during the bear market.

Their creation of bitcoin has hit a shit ton of birds with one stone
1. Easily fund their own dark programs
2. Track every transaction with ease
3. Establish foreign usage, opening avenues to acquire information internationally
4. Promote globalism through all nations by urging them to use the same currency
5. Undermine and protect against the inevitable US dollar fiat ponzi scheme

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>>12182211
Does anyone even remember the original Silk Road shutdown? How they closed and then apprehended sellers and buyers with ease? Thats because they all used bitcoin.

They looped in gamers, drug dealers and then normies in less then a decade, duped the entirety of them into buying bitcoin and other trashcoins.

Why? Well if the reasons above arent enough to make you see the light let me tell you something about malleable psyhicals.

While all you plebs bought bitcoin and, correspondingly other trashcoins at near top or even the very top they have been accumulating and hoarding Rare Earth Metals, precisely Silver, the 2nd most robust and versatile commodity on the planet aside from oil itself. Silver is a finite resource but its used more and more every year. The market cap of fine .999 bullion silver is literally 1/2 of the crypto market even after the christmas dump and where we are now. Roughly $16 billion worth of said silver is mined by all the silver miners in the world combined and that number dwindles yearly because silver is an above ground resource and we’ve already found most of it.

JP Morgan has been accumulating ludicrous amounts of silver because they know its true value. Back in 1980 silver reached $50 an ounce, when global debt was only at $10 trillion. Now in 2018, we have a global debt of a whopping $247 trillion.

Ted butler, the leading researcher upon REM market manipulation had been calling out JPM for decades. His estimation of JPM’s silver holdings is 800 million physical ounces. But biz NEETs will disregard claims of an man 1000x their net worth and knowledge whom has been tracking and analyzing the market daily for decades.

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>>12182284
$50 x 24.7 = $1,235 = silvers TRUE value.

The rate of silver to gold mined is 1:9 so why is an oz of silver at a whopping 1/86 price of of the ounce of gold? Simply because they want more of it while its still dirt cheap.

JP morgan acquired a company that’s priority was to short silver, keeping the price low by throwing worthless fiat into paper silver ponzis whilst performing spoofing trades. When JPM realized the short position was unviable they took a different route, maxing out their own position by accumulating the biggest vault of physical silver in the history of mankind. Remember, you don’t own it unless you can hold it. At this point in time, silver is valued at $14 an ounce, meaning you can get it for a $1.50 above that spot price, give or take shipping/manufacturing costs thats about $16 an ounce RIGHT NOW that you can buy on trust online silver markets. But regardless, half of you cement level IQ retards will inevitably delude yourself into thinking you know better than billionaire bankers.

Now, what is my guidance on this entire predicament? I’d throw 30% of my assets into BTC/ZEC/LINK and the other 70% into silver, primarily current year American Silver Eagles directly from trusted distributors or the US Mint. Back when silvers spot dropped off to $9/oz, ASE’s were still trading at $16/oz. Thank me later idiots.

Shills will proceed to shill their trashcoins at you, derail this thread or just flat out call me a LARPer. But shills, let me ask you this, whats the LARP part? Im not bragging or gloating about anything. All I did was merely lay out the truth and offer guidance upon the time to come. Shills hate nothing more than the truth. Fiat will die sooner than you think, don’t hold their fiat bags for them.

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Start stacking before this entire ponzi is unveiled with unprecedented levels of green and corruption.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/06/ex-jp-morgan-trader-pleads-guilty-to-manipulating-metals-markets.html

Its all slowly but surely coming to fruition, They can’t keep the fraudboat afloat for much longer.

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Bumping for visibility

>> No.12182796

thanks for the info

>> No.12182826

>>12182211
i don't mind i'll come along for the ride.
more circumstantial evidence are the winklevoss twins - they were connected to Facebook and if you look into it there were so many holes in the story of its founding and CIA backing behind it too.

the CIA reused them as frontmen for bitcoin too.

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Actually, NSA created bitcoin and craig wright worked for them. There is a deep state hidden war between the NSA and the CIA. The CIA does the bidding of the Rothschilds and affiliated families, politicians and ultra rich, and the NSA is largely patriotic, but more pragmatic than idealistic.

The bilderberg group owned AXA, with CIA plants, created blockstream in order to propel bitcoin on the trajectory of ultra small blocks, where all but the ultra rich will effectively be priced out of generating and send bitcoin to their own wallets, and creating payment channels, while banks use bitcoin as a digital gold and settlement currency, allowing regular citizen to "open accounts" with them with "deposits" denominated in bitcoin that are fractional reserve phantoms. Settlement transactions being largely done through either LN or a sidechain blockstream creates that has similar properties of not being censorship resistant.

They want to trap bitcoin in a 2.0 system of banking where regular people never have cryptographic control of their "assets", just like today.

NSA is doing a 6D chess play of some sort via proxies. Some individuals involved in major forks of bitcoin are a part of this. I won't make a claim as to what exactly this play might be.

>> No.12183667

>>12182796
No problem
>>12182826
Based
>>12182896
Based

>> No.12183692

>(((they))) control the bitchainz n blockchodes markets

>> No.12183723

>>12183692
Precisely goyim

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>> No.12184841

They are actively trying to slide the fuck out of this thread

>> No.12184927 [DELETED] 

The way I see it, they don’t control it - but that’s the point - ensuring no one has control in my opinion is better than trying to remain control of something

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>>12182896
Exactly. Hold your own private keys and you'l be set.

>> No.12185089

>>12184927
They have the majority of coins son

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>>12182211
Thank you based anon for dropping knowledge and confirming gut instinct.

>> No.12185191

>>12182211
literally the reason i bought it

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Have a bump /biz/

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>>12185162
>>12185191
>>12185594
Based

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>>12185620

>> No.12185915

>>12182896

>The CIA does the bidding of the Rothschilds and affiliated families, politicians and ultra rich, and the NSA is largely patriotic, but more pragmatic than idealistic.

This is accurate enough for me to confirm that you have definitely worked with members at these agencies. I was a crypto sec specialist working on SGX. This accurately describes both agencies.

>> No.12186112

>>12182211
I agree with most of what you say. I have read that NSA outline for crypto currency in the 90s. You also have to consider that on top of all the things you listed there will eventually be use of the blockchain, but just likely not bitcoin or any crypto in existence will be used as an end game currency. It's basically a test.

>> No.12186161

is there any documented proof of any /biz/ actually making money? seems like trading this shit is the equivalent of gambling at the casino. do a couple of people hit the jackpot and does the casino plaster it on billboards to show winning is possible? sure, but 99.99% of the rest of us lose. the only winners are the middle men taking their guaranteed cut of both losses and gains

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This is something I've suspected as well. There's no way powers that be would allow shit like this to usurp their power. The government can shut down anything if they deamed it threatening enough. Look at what happened to online gambling in the US.

There are retards who use the government's failure in enforcing Prohibition, drugs, prostitution, etc. as reasons why crypto would evade gov't control. Those are different because the gov't can't possibly surveil every physical location. However, on the internet it's a different story. They easily track down anyone on the web because the web is controlled by ISPs which answer to the gov't. Anyone who's running a crypto node or service, they can find out quickly and can shut it down at will if they choose to do so.

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>>12186112
Ye.

>> No.12186236

>>12182211
>5. Undermine and protect against the inevitable US dollar fiat ponzi scheme

i was following you until you went full retard with this last point. the US is by far the most stable and reliable nation in the world for the financial elite to park their money in. the fundamental right to property cements that fact and obligates the government to protect it. there is no "inevitable" collapse until a nation more powerful than the US emerges. no, china and russia aren't capable of doing shit their entire economies rely on western consumption

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>>12186236

>> No.12186316

>>12186299
IBM lads.

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>>12182211
The whistle would've been blown by now, if there was a conspiracy.

>> No.12186392

>>12186378
>There are always people willing to sacrifice their livelihoods and freedom to blow the whistle on the government.

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Launching a news site early next year with local and somewhat regional stories to be published everyday. Carved out a niche topic already. Thoughts on starting a one-man news business in an information saturated world?

>> No.12186423

>>12184841
>4 other posts
>Sliding

Fuck off silver shill.

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>>12186404
There's a small news site run by a handful of people whom all call themselves Tyler Durden in every post, like in Fight Club. I don't remember the name, but they're supposed to be very good, one of the best. You should start there.

>> No.12186913

Yeah, btc is obviously compromised now. There is literally no way to go from fiat2btc without kyc on any exchanges nowadays

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>>12182365
>BTC/ZEC/LINK
replace ZEC with XMR dummy

>> No.12187099

>>12186188
>what is monero
>what is koviri which is developed to combat this exact phenomenon
while XVG and ZEC are pajeeting you guys, monero is actually playing 9D chess

>> No.12187116

All you faggots are acting like the cia and the nsa have the most elite programmers and mathematicians known to mankind. They are a tiny fraction of the overall intelligence that reside in the everyday population who you will never hear about and have no interest in joining a three letter agency. These are the people that will use the cia nsa own weapon against them.

>> No.12187119

>>12182211
Nigger

>> No.12187130

>>12182698
What is the image you posted?

>> No.12187141

>low key silverbug shill with paranoid conspiracies
What rhymes with mage?

>> No.12187152

>>12182365
Good post. I dont think youre a larper, I think youre a deluded bagholder. Pms are way overpriced compared to industrial value.

>> No.12187178

>>12182698
bumping for volitility

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>>12182896
>I won't make a claim as to what exactly this play might be.
I think the playbook is calling for the Ultimate Bait & Switch

<ahem> <ting-ting>
>be Satoshi Nakamoto(s)
>invent distributed open source PoW encrypted ledger
>patiently sit back and watch it moon and then moon some more
>chuckle to yourself as the “smart” money takes interest
>nod knowing the “smart” money would pile in droves to drive price down
>watch as normies and massive energy consuming mining ops get rekt while institutional interests consolidate the lion’s share of all circulating BTC for muh next grand rally
>smile for a moment and take a deep breath
>stare piercingly at the faces of high finance as they realize they’re left holding massive bags of tulips as Satoshi Wallet unleashes it’s fury on an already capitulated market.

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>satoshi was female
the final cryptocurrency redpill

>> No.12187394

>>12187215
Satoshi got his head knocked off by Mike Tuson in the basement of a TiggaHwona brothel my nigga.

>> No.12187745

>>12186236
lel, delusion epitomized, fiat isnt backed by anything, they just keep printing more and more until its useless, its all a ponzi. >>12186378
Implying people would destroy their lives and potentially get suicided to leak gov secrets to a surplus of goys that would either disregard or not believe saix leaks?
>>12187116
Because they do yoou absolute brainlet, they pay the most through slush funds >>12187119
Nice try slider
>>12187141
Low energy shill
>>12187152
>deluded bagholder
>pms are overpriced compared to industrial value
>good post
top kek, the 4chan neet who knows better than billionaire bankers
>>12187178
Based
>>12187215
Based

>> No.12187764

>>12182422
>They can’t keep the fraudboat afloat for much longer.

That's where you are terribly wrong. They can do it as long as they want. I bought silver like 5 years ago and all it's done is lose value because these manipulative fucks will never let it reach fair value. Precious metals are easily the biggest meme in the modern world.

>> No.12187776

Why ZEC?

>> No.12187793

>>12187130
Dont worry about it
>>12187764
Nothing lasts forever. Its only a matter of time before this scam is in the limelight, don’t let them discourage you, dont sell low so they can get more bang for their buck. REM’s are decade long investments, they are not for the inpatiently weak handed.

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>>12182211
>CIA/NSA
Thinking the CIA/NSA could pull this off.

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if you buy what scales you will be more wealthy than you can imagine

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“they” can neither confirm nor deny

sorry bizbros

be patient in crypto. don’t fomo. put (relative) tiny bits of fiat that you don’t need into good cryptos (top 10s for the love of god) when there’s blood in the street. average out your buys. just don’t sell any until the market is overwhelmingly retail and pumping. and even then don’t sell your whole bag.

the enlightened love you. but we are not here. goodbye.

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>>12187776
Development of the protocol started in the 80s. When the phoenix issue of the economist came out.

Zooko was part of the original digicash team

Hal finney followed the zero coin protocol Twitter right befre he died and tweeted looking for ways to add anonymity to bitcoin

Halfin is part of 'satoshi nakamoto'

You have big names like snowden and vitalik shiling it

Jp Morgan working on it since day 1

It has its own investment trust

NYDFS approved

Coinbase listing

Gemini listing

Z is the 26th letter

Saturn tilts at 26 degrees

Zcash has 26 transactions per second

the symbol is for saturn and it also is the symbol for NULL which means ZERO

10 2018 is also the last month btc was stable before it broke support

its also the symbol for PHI

the 21st greek letter

aka the golden ratio

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phi

21 million bitcoin

21 million zcash

21st letter

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>>12187776
Its zcash

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>>12182365
you can't spoof orders to manipulate prices long term. Spoofs are liquidity games in fast moving markets, typically HFT blasting orders and then pulling them before they can be filled to get a gap down before market returns to equilibrium.

>>12182698
get better graphics

>>12182896
you're an idiot. AXA is a middle market buy side player in any market. Some random venture arm invested $50m in Bitcoin. No one cared, including de Castries.

>>12184039
get fucked. Who taught you how to make charts? Log scale (done badly), x axis longer than time series duration implied by labeling, no titles. Honestly just accept that you're one of the noise people not the signal people.

>>12185162
you specifically should never listen to your gut

>>12185191
#ThingsBagHoldersSay

>>12185915
LARP

>>12186112
every institution thats employed more than 2 math/comp sci PhDs has published something on cryptography in the last 30 years. that's how publishing and iterative improvement of knowledge works.

>>12186236
>>12186378
only people with a vague understanding of reserve status reality itt

>>12186830
it's called zerohedge, it's not small you're just an idiot. It's a short and distort machine, gives advice about as good as the penny punters on ihub

>>12187099
biggest bag holder, rip

>>12187119
based

>>12187256
future is female

>> No.12187892

>>12187845
>>>
I like reading shit like this.

>> No.12187912

>>12182698
pic related is fantastic. Thanks.

>> No.12187966

I don't have enough tinfoil at the moment to make a hat for this amount of ....

>> No.12188011

>>12186392
this. Look what happened to the creators of the film that keanu's well known for.

See also chelsea m.

>> No.12188019

>>12188011
They were already fags though. Why do you think theres so much leather? Apparently even Switch was supposed to be a dude in the matrix and a girl outside of it

>> No.12188025

>>12187888
spoofs were just the tip of the iceberg, also you’re a massive pseudo-intellectual faggot