Who /5AM/ Here?

[OP No.12144826]

Pretty sure this is the most appropriate board to pose my dilemma.

While I used to be one to whine about "the evils of the 1%," I'm starting to see why such a massive disparity in human equality exists. I have friends who, like me, are very motivated to succeed. Or so I thought. One, like me, graduated from college with high honors. He's in a graduate program now. The other was on track to, but had to leave for financial reasons and has yet to return after two years. She's working at a very low wage job and, frankly, does not deserve to be there. It seems she's very close to giving up on going back to school when she was killing it while in there.

I suggested that we all get up at 5AM like all those CEO's and business moguls do. I was met with fierce opposition that, frankly, surprised the hell out of me. I thought they'd take a little convincing, I understand that's very early, but their argument boiled down to, "I simply don't want to." I was appalled and it took a lot of willpower to hold my tongue and not destroy friendships.

Does anyone have friends willing to do what it takes to be extremely successful? Or are we all out here lone wolfing it? It seems, unfortunately, that the percentage of those willing to do extreme work is exactly that - 1%.

[Anonymous No.12144951]

>>12144826

You know who else wake up at 5AM?

Farmers.

there goes your enlightenment.

[Anonymous No.12144962]

4AM master race

[Anonymous No.12144975]

>>12144826
>>12144951
>>12144962

Kek. 3:30AM alpha Chad here.

[Anonymous No.12145029]

>>12144975
what time does the Serg get up?

[OP No.12145039]

>>12144951
And it's a damn good thing cuz, you know, we'd literally starve to death if they didn't.

I understand this is 4chan, but this is also biz. Motivated people lurk everywhere and I know there's at least one person here who shares my sentiments. I'll wait for your reply; you know who you are.

[Anonymous No.12145057]

>>12144962
>>12144975
>>12144826
Pathetic. Unironic 2:30 Ubermensch here.

[Anonymous No.12145066]

>>12145057
6 PM here

[Anonymous No.12145070]

>>12144826
I go to sleep at 10 AM fren

[Anonymous No.12145101]

>>12144826
I'm only doing that if I'm motivated in the first place. No problem waking up earlier though.

[Anonymous No.12145105]

>>12144826
I get up at 7 AM. But usually do 12-14 hour days and go to bed at 1 AM. So 5-6 hours of sleep. Not enough of sleep but it takes skills to pay the bills they say..

[OP No.12145236]

>>12145101
Thanks for the reply. I guess I have a lot more motivation than most. I was "on my own" at 22 with my girlfriend, but after we broke up she kicked me out. I lost my job after getting depressed over it, etc. I'm better now, but now I'm living with my mother who I can't stand, there's four kids in the house, and I want out of here as fast as possible. That's plenty of motivation on my end. Maybe that's the issue; everyone's so damn comfortable where they are they have no reason to change it or improve themselves.

>>12145105
No point in paying bills if you're not alive to enjoy the fruits of your labors. Do you work a low wage job? Can you work on a promotion? The place you living at too expensive? I'd downgrade if I were you. Save money on rent and use that to invest and afford a nicer place later.

[Anonymous No.12145258]

>>12145236
I'm living on my own. Zero appetite and my relatives talk to me as if I should pursue my dreams lmao
I have no dreams left

[Anonymous No.12145307]

>>12144826
Theres nothing particularly important about the time of day you wake up, if your competition wakes up at 10am youll have an advantage over them waking up at 9am, 8am v 7am etc.
The 5am thing was to beat the commute and rush hours, yes it took great motivation that had a knock on effect throughout the day but its boomer tier advice that only has its place if youre working for a large company in the center of a city.

[Anonymous No.12145316]

>>12145029
Before McDonald's stops serving breakfast. But just barely, and he makes a scene if they refuse him for being a few minutes late, then orders 200 uniquely customized Big Mac's just to spite them.
This happens about every other day.

[Anonymous No.12145343]

>>12144951
Just woke up 5:30am, no alarm clock, ate breakfast and taking a dunp right now

[Anonymous No.12145366]

>>12144826
Why would you be so upset about other people not wanting to wake up at the same time as you that you would need "a lot of willpower to hold my tongue and not destroy friendships"?

[Anonymous No.12145410]

>>12144826
>>12145236
lmao you sound like a fag
ofc you are alone
"OOOOOh my friends won't wake up at 5am with me waaaaaaaaaah!!"
lmfao faggot
just woke up here
it's 8am btw

[Anonymous No.12145438]

>>12145366
"EEEEEEGHRRR JAMIE DOESN'T WANT TO BE SUPER SUCCESSFUL WITH MEEEEE"

[Anonymous No.12145450]

I wake up at 7 M-F and typically between 8-9 on weekends. I’m busier and make more than anyone I know my age, yes getting up at 5 and hitting the gym before work as opposed to after would probably be cool but completely restarting my sleep schedule is a pain in the ass and I’m still as productive as I need to be.

[Anonymous No.12145473]

>>12144826
You have to be somewhat psychotic to be so driven by money.

[Anonymous No.12145485]

Normies simply can't imagine a lifestyle of singular devotion to an objective beyond the limits of their woefully inadequate imagination.
Those normies who, through desperation, attempt such things, are quickly met with the stark reality of hardship, and shortly thereafter sink back into their pit of inadequacy.
To actually wake up at 5am and dedicate your time to virtuous pursuits you have to have discipline, and the most efficient way to enforce discipline is to draw up a plan, a routine of sorts, when you are in the right frame of mind. Then, when your mind is racked by weakness, you can stay true to your pre-determined path for the day. If you leave things to the willpower that can be mustered in the spur-of-the-moment then you will quickly find yourself regressing to first procrastination, then wilful sloth, and finally a return to the comfort of weakness.

[Anonymous No.12145506]

>>12145039
But while their work is essential in some sense, they don't end up as rich Randian ubermensch.

Generally speaking those Musk types are a combination of rare genetics and massive amounts of semi-legal stimulants.

[Anonymous No.12145563]

>>12145473
why? If money is power and freedom then it is absolutely most logical to be driven by money. One could even argue that people with no money has no free will, because they do not have the mental fortitude to cultivate the discipline required for success

[Anonymous No.12145592]

>>12145506
He's a fraud you dumbshit. He's a jew and he sells dreams to stupid goyim like you.

[OP No.12145644]

>>12145307
>Boomer advice
I wouldn't say so. A lot of ancient Greeks spew a lot of wisdom that's still relevant today. The age of the advice doesn't matter. Solid advice is solid advice I think.

>>12145343
I'm proud of you, semi-anon. Haha.

>>12145366
I guess I was just upset to learn they weren't as motivated as I thought they were. And learning that I might be alone in my struggle was sad. It would be much more fun conquering the worldwith friends. They're still friends, obviously, but my opinion of them kinda sank a bit. I guess friendship will come during the journey and not beforehand. Having people by my side, sharing their concerns, struggles, advice, etc would be awesome.

[Anonymous No.12145670]

>>12145592
Overhyped? Yes, but he still bootstrapped reusable rockets and made the top electric car company.

If it still hurts your feelings, sub in Bezos or Zuckerberg for that metonymy.

[OP No.12145783]

>>12145450
I suppose the results of your actions are much more important than the time of day they take place. Good job on your success. I think if you took the time to wake up earlier, though, you'd have a lot more time to compete your plans. I guess the idea of the 5 AM wake up is to get ahead of the competition.

>>12145473
Not money, but success. I have a lot of things I want to accomplish. Being a better person morally, to other people, being at the top of my career field. Money is just a nice bonus that follows from improving my life in these areas.

>>12145485
I like your enthusiasm. While I'm not as pessimistic of the human race as you are, I agree with a lot of your conclusions. Even if I'd try to word them differently.

>>12145563
Yep. Freedom comes from sacrifice, and to get you must first give. No one understands the kind of work these people who built great companies on their own have gone through. (Excluding recipients of handouts and rich daddies who tell them exactly what to do.)

Nice discussion guys. It's hard to keep up. That's s good thing.

[Anonymous No.12145882]

>>12145066
Drumpf wakes up at 5 unironically

[Anonymous No.12146089]

>>12144826
>>12144951
>>12144962
>>12144975
It's not about the hour you get up, it's about discipline.

[Anonymous No.12146101]

>>12145783
If you aren't as pessimistic, then you must surely enjoy the luxury of relative isolation and the company of like-minded persons. Were you to see what I saw, then I am positive that your pessimism would equal mine, perhaps even surpass it.
The truth that I have uncovered, through years of struggle, is that people don't want to be uplifted. They want to be gifted with the spoils of war, but lack the courage to fight for it.
I see all of life as struggle. All of life is competition. Everything can be deconstructed and, in this exposed state, bent by your will. You can say that it shouldn't be like that, that we should build up treasures in heaven and forsake the madness of the hunt, but my imperative is to conquer. Why? Because if only one other like me exists, then I must take this course of action or suffer to be worse off than they. That I cannot allow.
Tell me, OP, what other steps have you taken to fulfil your destiny? What puts you above the herd?

[OP No.12146404]

>>12145882
>He Who Must Not Be Named
REEEEEE

>>12146089
Agreed. Not being willing to get up at the same time every day shows a lack of it, though.

>>12146101
>Enjoy the luxury of isolation and like minded people
Nope, quite the opposite. I'm at home with my mother and her "fiance" - they'll never get married, it's been thirteen years. My optimism strangely stemmed from them though. I hate them so much I'll do whatever it takes to ensure I don't grow up like them.
>People don't want to be uplifted
I know that much. I'll keep searching though. I understand that perhaps people as motivated as me might equal about 1% - I'll meet 200 people with the sole purpose of finding the two.
>What puts me above the herd?
Graduating with honors. Studying several hours a day for my GRE. Not being discouraged by my friends' lack of participation, but still going on to meet others similar to me. Not succumbing to the negativity that constantly surrounds me, but instead using it as motivation to be the person I know does right. To name a few. Oh, I've also worked at a high-paying job before I graduated. The one I unfortunately lost from being depressed.

My question to you sir/ma'am - Where does your motivation stem from? It's not all hate, is it? Giving yourself a worthy and morally sound goal will make you much more likely to see it through.

[Anonymous No.12146627]

>>12146404
>where does your motivation come from
I have had the good fortune to have had a hard life, and to be witness to the mistakes of many others.
I have to warn you... going down this path is not ideal. You will drive a wedge between yourself and others, and become indifferent to the tragedy of the human condition. The void will come for you before you know it. It's a lonely path, OP, but it's the only path to the top.

[Anonymous No.12146719]

>>12144826
You’re projecting onto them

[Anonymous No.12146772]

>>12144826
The short of it all is that yes, even though many people are lazy, wealth distribution that we see today has nothing to do with that
In a system of free actors like the West, the natural progression of wealth will follow the 80/20 ratio or there will be societal upheaval, whichever comes first
We've even seen worse wealth distributions in America in the last 200 years, so this is not a new thing

I'm not a commie, but this is just going to happen until we find the mechanism or mechanisms that are causing this particular situation and fix them with new law

[Anonymous No.12147042]

>>12144951

You say that like it's a bad thing