Median net income

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Median net income Anonymous Mon Dec 17 04:56:08 2018 No.12143740 [Reply] [Original]

>The median net income of the German population in 2017 was 1666 euros per month

source:
https://www.boeckler.de/wsi_50933.htm

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 04:59:22 2018 No.12143758

Yeah and you pay $400 a month for a 1 bedroom apartment. That costs about $1000-$2000 a month in the USA. Also your cell phone and insurance and food is cheaper. About the only thing more expensive for you is gas "petrol" and electronics, which you don't need every month so who cares.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:09:38 2018 No.12143818

>>12143758
>Yeah and you pay $400 a month for a 1 bedroom apartment.
I live in the cheapest corner of the country and your statement barely holds up.

> Also your cell phone and insurance and food is cheaper.
No. Mobile internet is probably the most expensive in the world here.

>About the only thing more expensive for you is gas "petrol" and electronics, which you don't need every month so who cares.
True if you never go anywhere cause you're too poor, you don't need a car. Good logic m8.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:09:49 2018 No.12143820 >>12143758 you forgot that we can drink water from the pipe

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:12:09 2018 No.12143829

>>12143818
>I live in the cheapest corner of the country and your statement barely holds up.

I live in a 500.000 population city and I pay 470€ for a 2,5 room apartment

the only expensive cities are munich and other incest places where nobody without mental illness would want to live anyways

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:12:19 2018 No.12143830 >>12143820 yeah if you want water that's hard as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:13:37 2018 No.12143842 >>12143818 how much is your internet bill? I know German girl, her apartment is $400 or 450/month, I forget which, and it's 1 bedroom

>>	Space Mon Dec 17 05:13:51 2018 No.12143846 File: 44 KB, 559x547, 1417999123001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] God, I hate my cuntry. Everything is low income/wage dumping here. Fuck everything in Germany.

>>	Space Mon Dec 17 05:15:47 2018 No.12143853 >>12143829 So it's shitty Hanover then. Good for you, faggot: Gathering from your rent you're living not exactly in the city, but in the belt.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:16:11 2018 No.12143855 >>12143842 Home internet is like 30€ but mobile you get like 2gb for that. To every apartment you can add a 13th rent for heating/water by the way. >>12143830 That depends on the area.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:17:10 2018 No.12143859 Doesnt matter where you from or live, as long there is money, then u been controlled like sheep by rothschild aka kikes

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:18:29 2018 No.12143865 >>12143859 You realize money existed before the Rothschilds you dumb fuck? Wow this anti banking propaganda really developed a life of its own.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:19:34 2018 No.12143871

>>12143829
>I live in a 500.000 population city and I pay 470€ for a 2,5 room apartment
I live in the countryside and even here you wouldnt find an apartment that cheap. its pretty much 10 € / qm2 then add all the extra fees, water heating, electricity (some of the highest cost in europe) plus we have the highest tax burden in the EU after belgium. but hey at least we are wealthy enough to feed half the third world and big business clocks record earnings every year, even though wages have been stagnant since the 90s. god bless germany.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:20:11 2018 No.12143875

>>12143855
I have unlimited mobile and it's $90 in JewSA

I don't have TV or internet, since I use hotspot. But my mom tells me she pays $130 a month for TV and internet.

>>12143865
>he doesn't know about the Babylonian Magick Money System
Rothschilds didn't invent it but they certainly used it

>>12143846
Shut up whiny faggot it's way more expensive in the US

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:21:15 2018 No.12143877 >>12143871 >to feed half the third world and big business clocks record earnings every year, even though wages have been stagnant since the 90 the entire West m8

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:22:29 2018 No.12143885 >>12143830 you can send your water in , to test it. even stiftung warentest proves that most waters from the pipe are even better than overprices mineralwasser scams.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:22:34 2018 No.12143886 >>12143740 Netto junge? Oder brutto? Annegret wirds schon richten

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:24:07 2018 No.12143891 >>12143886 >Netto junge? Oder brutto? THE MEDIAN NET INCOME I'm outta here. Avoid Germans like the plague.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:24:20 2018 No.12143892 >>12143853 10 minutes from the center, not hannover lel

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:25:58 2018 No.12143902
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>>12143877
germany is in a league of its own m8, were the richest economy in the EU, money is flowing like crazy yet actual private wealth is among the lowest in europe. were being taken to the cleaners like no other country and of course german cucks are fine with it because "Muh fair share, muh roads, muh infrastructure". i hate this shithole of a country with a passion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:26:47 2018 No.12143905 >>12143886 >net income >nEtTo oDeR BruTtO? perfect example that the arabs which come to us are problably much more educated than german potatoes who are already here

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:27:29 2018 No.12143910 I live in munich but I get a western salary. Even 'expensive' munich is cheap for me! feel bad for all the 30-60yo postmen/checkout chicks though.. fuck that :(

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:29:04 2018 No.12143916 >>12143902 the first time you need to see a doctor in another country you will come back to this "shithole" i promise

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:29:54 2018 No.12143921

>>12143818
>No. Mobile internet is probably the most expensive in the world here.
Do you even know any other prices? obvs its not the most expensive in the world, are you on crack
see https://www.androidcentral.com/us-mobile-data-prices-among-most-expensive-world

>500MB of data costs $85 in the U.S., compared to $24.10 in China and $8.80 in the U.K
and like 5-8 euro in germany

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:31:35 2018 No.12143929 >>12143740 Ich griech zwaadausn raus für drei dooch ärbät, länger mooch i einfoch net machn. Serguz!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:32:12 2018 No.12143932 >>12143902 Sounds EXACTLY like America. At least you have healthcare and education. We are also only 40% white with zero culture. So you're slightly better than us but well on your way!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:32:50 2018 No.12143934 >>12143905 I am arab you idiot

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:33:02 2018 No.12143935 >>12143921 and dont come with some retarded telekom plan with included iphone for 90euro per month thats not the average nor the minimum

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:33:29 2018 No.12143939 >>12143916 Die wengstn wissns ze schätzn, bleed senns olla, bleed wie die nocht finster, oba über die necher schändn.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:34:07 2018 No.12143941

>>12143916
>muh healthcare
ah yes, the war cry of the German cuckold. last time I went to the dentist the waiting room was full with somalis, everybody getting their teeth fixed for 4k a pop, courtesy of the German taxpayer. no wonder you have to wait months for an appointment.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:34:31 2018 No.12143944 >>12143934 kys cunt

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:35:12 2018 No.12143948

1360€
>500€ rent for 42m2 outer city belt (includes garbage disposal
>100,- train ticket (for commuting)
>60,- electricity
>35,- internet / phone (download 2mb/s upload 0,4 - 1gb free phone internet, 1h free telephone)
>17,50 state tv license (forced I dont even have a tv)
= 647,50 left for food fun and hygiene

Most of the time I end up with +50-100eur a month. Its allright I guess, but I wish internet would be better and the trains would come on time. Also public healthcare fucking sucks, dont even start thinking about dentist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:35:20 2018 No.12143949 >>12143944 Deine mutter

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:38:17 2018 No.12143958 >>12143948 Wie old bistn du zipfl? Host a gscheita Ausbildung? Wie viel stund schaffstn die woch? 13..€ wieso stehstn dofür auf?

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:39:09 2018 No.12143965
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>>12143941
>moved to a new city
>hello doctor? need appointment
>ok come next week pls
>too early? ok come in two week pls
>hello anon this is marie i am your dentist
>see you next year

pic related is my dentist.
no muds, no turks, no arabs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:39:13 2018 No.12143966 >>12143740 More than half the population doesn't work, they are either children, senior citizens, wellfare-recipience, or enrolled in some educational program. So the median German doesn't have a 9-5 job.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:41:15 2018 No.12143977 >>12143965 i have no idea where you live where you can get such a cheap apartment and have no nogs and arabs but its certainly not any desirable part in germany.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:41:25 2018 No.12143979 >>12143740 Probably same in Belgium. Rent: 800€/month Electricity + gas: 100€/month Food: 400€/month Cellphone + internet: 80€/month You can barely have a car with that, living on your own that is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:41:51 2018 No.12143981 >>12143740 >1666 Eehh

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:43:05 2018 No.12143985 File: 24 KB, 289x300, mussolini.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12143948 >but I wish internet would be better and the trains would come on time Don't know about the internet, but there is a solution to the train problem.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:46:45 2018 No.12144001 >>12143966 they aren´t in the calculation, this is the "single working person" stat. there are seprated "household" statistics.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:47:25 2018 No.12144004

>>12143958
Sehr geehrter Herr Bayer, ich bin ein IHK geprüfter Hotelkaufmann mit einer 40h / Woche und stehe für 12,- € Brutto jeden morgen um 5:00 Uhr auf, um für die Immigranten und anderen Sozialhilfeempfängern in Berlin ein menschenwürdiges Leben zu ermöglichen.
Ich leide unter starker Depression.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:50:34 2018 No.12144016 >>12144004 Kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:53:33 2018 No.12144029 >>12143977 "real" arabs aren´t a problem in germany. i only hate: north africans turks roma gypsies eastern europeans. libanese "original" arabs from saudi arabia or even syria are 99% well behaved and integrated. most likely to be nice: iranians.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:55:11 2018 No.12144040 File: 90 KB, 720x571, Benito-train-window.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12143985 arrives on time Heh...nothing personnel kid

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:55:13 2018 No.12144042 auch für die viecher aus afghanistan sollte gelten: heimreise statt einreise

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:56:23 2018 No.12144050 >>12144029 Fuck you sand nigger parasite

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:58:21 2018 No.12144061

>>12144029
>"original" arabs from saudi arabia or even syria are 99% well behaved and integrated.
uh yeah again, maybe in bizarro germany where you live, where rent is cheap and there are no foreigners. in the germany I live in moroccans, afghans, syrians cause tons of trouble.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 05:59:54 2018 No.12144066 >>12144061 therefore i recommend deportation of these

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:01:14 2018 No.12144077 File: 47 KB, 500x500, tumblr_np35aeaB7R1uudk2uo1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Be anesthesia nurse in germany >make around 30k a year >CRNAs in the USA make around 170k >tfw the europoor meme is true

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:03:19 2018 No.12144088 File: 51 KB, 340x568, 1543674367812.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I get 6140 before taxes as a developer in Berin Learn React and nodejs guys and stop complain

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:03:20 2018 No.12144090 >>12144077 why the fuck are you a male nurse?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:05:08 2018 No.12144106 but muh healthcare Even though I go to the doctor so rarely and am never sick because I take care of my body. But I get punished for it, and still have to pay these fucking gibs every month.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:05:10 2018 No.12144107 >>12144004 Ich denke Berlin ist das Problem hier.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:05:46 2018 No.12144114 >>12144077 >tfw no anesthesia gf to fall asleep with

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:07:17 2018 No.12144125 >>12144004 Und warum machst nan des, wennst scho selber sogst das dir des a ungleichgwicht des Gemüts eibringt. Warum magst dich nan selber zum affn und beschwerst dich dann a nu dast so bleed bist es zu machn.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:11:01 2018 No.12144150

>>12144106
>But I get punished for it, and still have to pay these fucking gibs every month.

you don´t have to pay it. it is your choice.
nobody stopping you to move to Mogadischu where you don´t need to pay taxes.

not to mention that the doctors who helped your mom to bring you out of her body got paid by your taxes.
fucking idiot break you leg and without taxes the doctor can charge what he wants..you would be the first crybaby
>b-but why soo much, it is only a leg!1111!!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:11:03 2018 No.12144151 >>12144125 Wat soll ig sonst machen du kloppa? Irgendwo muss die scheiß kohle ja herkomm und kündigen geht nicht sonst gibbet kein harz

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:14:41 2018 No.12144172

>>12144150
But I wlll never break a leg because I am not retard who works shitty physical labour and I don't do risky shit in general, you fucking retard.

>WHAT IF WHAT IF WHAT IF

None of the shit that you talk and that you could potentially name will ever fucking happen to you or me. Literally.

But keep giving your fucking money away for fucking nothing each month, you fucking retard.

You're only trading your entire life away considering in Germany you'll have to wagecuck until your 70s at some point.

Sure fucking worth it because I can at least go to a doctor if I get too old to wageslave, you fucking garbage wagecuck.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:15:10 2018 No.12144178

>>12144151
bewirb dich bei der polizei in jedem bundesland, bewirb dich bei der stadt/komune im umkreis, bewirb dich bei justizvollzugsanstalten , bewirb dich einfach überall als beamter.

wenn das nichts wird, geh ins handwerk.

hotel- und gastgewerbe ist ne einbahnstraße dass hätte dir vorher klar sein können einstein

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:16:48 2018 No.12144188 >>12144172 so why don´t you move your ass to a better country instead of crying rivers?

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:16:53 2018 No.12144189

>>12144151
Ziech wo anersch no! Such an besser bezohltn Job! Wo's waas denn ich, wo's a hotel Angestellter für möchlichkeitn hot. Auf alle fäll wird's so net zum "ive made it Boys" langa, do brauchst dann scho nu an"Side Hustle"
Ich geh mer etz an Leberkäs holn.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:16:56 2018 No.12144191
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>tfw live in Budapest
>earn double the median net income of the average german
>but work 10h a week instead of 40h for it
>and life here is 4 times cheaper than in Germany
feels good man

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:17:42 2018 No.12144197 >>12144191 how though?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:18:46 2018 No.12144204 >>12144197 I'm not a wagecuck working for Mr.Shekeltstein, but run my own business instead, that's how

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:21:03 2018 No.12144220 >>12144191 Des glabbt dir ka Mensch. Auf alle fäll net für a ungarischa firma, des konnst glei vergessn. Wie isn so dortn? Gell necher und kuttnbrunser findst dort wenich nä?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:22:54 2018 No.12144230 >>12144191 Looks beautiful, I want to go there and Prague one day. Heard the women are beautiful too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:24:32 2018 No.12144240 >>12144220 I never said I was german what the kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:24:33 2018 No.12144241 >>12144188 >lmao just leave who cares that your family lived on this soil for centuries and you have all your friends and relatives here fuck you. this country could be great but because of statist cucks like you we are all being bled dry

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:29:25 2018 No.12144271

>>12144241
so why is almost every country without major taxes such a shitshow?

if your family lived here for centuries , somebody for sure got hurt once and he paid nothing for the doctor, how about that?
how about the fact that your mother didn´t worked the time she gave birth and still got money ? how about that?

shut up and leave or stop crying rivers

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:31:04 2018 No.12144286
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>tfw making 1700 EUR net in Prague as a mid tier IT professional at age of 28
>have a comfy shitbox car, all the electronics and clothing I want, eating rib-eye steaks every day
>splitting rent with GF, saving 900 EUR a month

Prague real estate is getting expensive as fuck, and 45% income tax + 22% VAT keep the middle class poor, other than that it is quite comfy here with my income.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:31:43 2018 No.12144288 >>12143979 cut back on food, currently living on about 100eur food per month

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:36:34 2018 No.12144320 >>12144271 >hey, we steal half of your paycheck and continually devalue the scraps you are able to save, but we did something good for you with like one third of what we stole, so its ok! Kys

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:36:59 2018 No.12144323 >>12144286 >>splitting rent with GF, saving 900 EUR a month smartboy here

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:38:12 2018 No.12144332 >>12144320 income taxes aren´t half of your paycheck in germany even if your earn 100.000 per year

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:38:15 2018 No.12144333 >>12144029 Iranians are not arabs you sandnigger subhuman

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:39:38 2018 No.12144342 >>12144333 therefore i put them at the end in a separated sentence you dumb cunt.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:46:31 2018 No.12144381

>>12144332
Income tax + mandatory social tax (aka social 'insurance') + mandatory healthcare tax (aka health 'insurance') =45% tax in Czech Rep. Add VAT on your regular purchases and you are over 50%.

It really does not matter what you think about it, the statist ponzi is unsustainable.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:48:58 2018 No.12144395

>>12144271
>paid nothing for the doctor
>paying thousands for healthcare every year
just fuck off you cuck. they could cut taxes in half and double the wages easily if we wouldnt feed half of africa. and dipshits like you are fine with it becaue "muh free healthcare". just kys

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:51:52 2018 No.12144412

>>12144381
in germany half your income is taken by income tax + mandatory social security. thats half your money gone. add indirect taxes for gasoline, real estate, capital gains, VAT etc. etc. and youre up to 70-80% easily. but the german retard is fine withit because he gets "free" healthcare and cant even imagine what it would be like to not get raped like this. even broke ass countries like spain and portugal have more private wealth than germany. we are powering the entire EU and are broke as fuck but the average retard is just fine with it as you can see ITT

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:56:06 2018 No.12144425
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No, the europoor meme is absolute true, I don't know if most burgers realize that. Having lived in Austria and Germany, which productivity is easily comparable with the USA (obv not total but per citizen) we live like shit and get taxed to death.
A few examples from me living in Austria:
>360€ a year for a state tv license (forced because I own a tv even though I technically am not able to recieve it)
>100€ yearly tax for my dog, another 100€ yearly to get insurance for my dog that I am FORCED to buy (my dog is less than 5kg heavy)
>1000€ taxes a year just for owning a car with a 3l diesel engine
>2.5% VAT if you buy real estate
>36-50% VAT on a car, depending on how strong the engine is
>20% VAT on everything except food

Gas prices are 300% of what they are in the USA. Real estate and food is also much more expensive, if you live outside of California/NYC.
And our median income is SHIT.

Oh and our "free" healthcare costs decent earners like me 300€/month. It's only free if youre unemployed. And it's absolute shit, waiting times for specialists are ~2 months, waiting times in the ER are easily 3 hours and to get a non live threatening surgery you have to wait several months too. I once had an arm injury that prevented me from working and if I wouldn't have went to a private doctor I would had to wait for ~3 months.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:58:17 2018 No.12144435

>>12144412
The best you can do as an average guy is to work hard on your skillset, pursue a promising career and put you long term savings into something they cannot steal or debase - for me that is Bitcoin.
That way you are well positioned to take advantage of this collapsing shitshow 15-30 years from now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 06:58:34 2018 No.12144437 60sqm 2bdr in Berlin centre in desirable neighbourhood with all utilities and unlimited 400mbit internet 750. Phone is 9 euros with 3gb and unlimited talk and text. If you're struggling to get by in Germany you're not even trying.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:00:01 2018 No.12144442 >>12143948 Spain 1100€ and I am a lucky lol. >700 Euros a flat with 60m2 or 400 euros a room. >60 euros train. >180 euros electricity every 3 months >30 euros phone and internet. Still have to eat. Thanks Barcelona

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:00:06 2018 No.12144444 File: 133 KB, 750x1334, eggman9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12144437 >struggling That is not what it is about, but compared to our output productivity we live like shit Which happens if you have to take care of the whole world

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:01:45 2018 No.12144457 >>12144442 are you renting your home or buying it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:03:13 2018 No.12144463 >>12144395 i know what i earn, i know what is going off by taxes. if youre cut offs are 50% its your problem not mine. i don´t pay 50% taxes so cry rivers i don´t care

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:03:26 2018 No.12144464 >>12144457 >400€/room I guess he is flatsharing/renting?

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:06:49 2018 No.12144474

>>12144457
Paradoxically is cheaper to buy a home than to rent it because the mortage is cheaper lol.
A lot of people buy them and put them to rent once bought while they stay at parents home or sharing their own house but our law is cucked and if someone doesn't want to pay and he says he does not have anywhere else to go you have to let him be there for god knows how much time.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:07:03 2018 No.12144477

>>12144463
Brainless drones like you are exactly the reason Germany is such a shithole
If you're working OF COURSE YOU ARE PAYING MORE THAN 50€ IN TAXES
Just add up
>income tax
>social security
>20% VAT
>50% VAT on gas
>equity you lose through money printing

Just for >muh free healthcare which IS HORRIBLE
Trust me, my ex gf got diagnosed with multiple sclerosis while we were together, I spent more time in the healthcare system than most people. It is as slow, wastfull and inefficient as you can imagine.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:08:05 2018 No.12144480 >>12144477 %*

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:08:58 2018 No.12144482 >>12144474 That's one of the reasons because no one wants to rent and the reason behind the rent being so stupidly high for this shit country.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:08:59 2018 No.12144483
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>>12144463
yeah yeah we get you live in bizarro germany where they dont take half your money by force. you also pay cheap rent and never see foreigners. just fuck off you cuck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:09:54 2018 No.12144486 >>12144425 real estate and food is NOT more expensive in Europe, shut the fuck up

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:11:25 2018 No.12144491

>>12144477
>I spent more time in the healthcare system than most people. It is as slow, wastfull and inefficient as you can imagine.
the real joke is I have a friend who lives abroad and comes here to go to dentists and what not. he pays cash for everything and usually they charge him like half of what they would charge a kassenpatient because all the administrative bullshit goes away. this entire system is such a giant scam its unbelievable. but what pisses me off the most is retards like >>12144463
who will even defend the sorry state of this once great nation.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:12:57 2018 No.12144497

>>12144477
> Germany is such a shithole
I don't know where you live, but Germany is a great country. It's my home and I love it.
Last year I made 200k in crypto, payed 0 taxes. It's one of the few countries where you don't pay capital gains on crypto if you hodl more than 1 year.

You can be blaming everyone else (except yourself) for your shitty life, but the truth is you live in a great country. So stop being a dildo man up and make the best out of it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:12:59 2018 No.12144498 >>12143855 Faggot. I pay 25 Euros for 15 GB mobile Internet (LTE). You get 2 GB for 10 Euros if you know what you're doing. Lying retard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:15:59 2018 No.12144520 File: 42 KB, 560x400, 1545008997235.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12143934 die ironie

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:17:56 2018 No.12144532 >>12144497 >I won the crypto lottery so fuck everybody else and fuck how bad this country is doing yeah youre a real patriot m8

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:17:59 2018 No.12144533
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>>12144497
You know that if you just make one shitcoin trade (which you probably did) you have to pay taxes? I am not going to report you to the Finanzamt and chances are they won't get you, but if you did anything but 100% hodling you still have to pay taxes.
How fucking brainwashed do you have to pay to be thankfull if you get to keep the earning of a super high risk investment? That is what it takes for a great nation? Btw. Sitzwerland/Singapor don't have any taxes on that, even if you traded shitcoins.

My life is not shitty by any means, I am pretty sure it is better than more, but it could be so much better if the government wouldn't be stealing 70% of our productivity, because of faggots like you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:18:14 2018 No.12144535 >>12144491 For all you know that guy can be part of the system. In Czech Rep it's like 40% of adult population leeching directly or indirectly off the tax system. This is why it is impossible to change the system through politics.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:21:52 2018 No.12144560

>>12144535
yeah this faggot is probably working for the state or a shitskin himself. of course these people love leeching off the real working population, they couldnt ever hack it in the real world. Im a small business owner and its virtually impossible to get ahead in Germany, they want cheap, obedient wageslaves and make it as hard as they can to build something on your own. FWIW I lived abroad for years but I always come back because I love my homecountry and miss my friends & family. but I hate what Germanistan has become and I wish a painful death on every statist cuck that is fine with it and tells people to "lol just leave" or "man up lmao".

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:22:12 2018 No.12144562 All you faggots complaining about living in Germany, it could be much worse. You could be living in Canada, UK, or USA.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:27:30 2018 No.12144590
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>>12144562
How is living in the USA worse than in Germany?
>higher wages
>lower costs of living
>lower taxes

yeah wow murder rates are higher if you live in Detroid/Chicago and real estate is more expensive if you live in San Francisco, but you can avoid that

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:29:44 2018 No.12144611

You know what? The German state is one of the worst and most cucked pieces of shit in human history. And still Germany is kinda decent, every other ethnicity would've collapsed under these conditions, we're racing with hand brakes on but still winning because we're german.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:29:55 2018 No.12144613 >>12144532 It's doing better than any other EU country so fuck off with this self pity. Jesus, this board is full of pussies. >>12144533 If you still didn't learn that nobody makes money trading than you didn't learn anything. Just buy and hodl ffs!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:30:49 2018 No.12144621 >>12144590 You are a retard. I've already outlined that in this thread.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:31:12 2018 No.12144624
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>>12144535
Yeah in Austria the people who are dependend on the governemtn are already in the majority, so we won't ever change the system until it will collapse (which it's going to, trust me)

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:31:24 2018 No.12144628
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Ich finde es gut dass Frauen von Flüchtlingen vergewaltigt und sexuell belästigt werden.
Jahrelang war ich voll der Lappen, der immer lieb und nett zu den Frauen war. Ich habe immer bei den Hausaufgaben geholfen und wurde wie ein emotionaler Tampon benutzt, wo man alle Probleme ausschütten kann. Als dank wurde ich in die Friendzone geschoben und die Frauen haben sich von den "Arschloch-Typen" abschleppen lassen, wo ich dann paar Wochen später als Heulkissen missbraucht wurde, weil die "mal wieder" verarscht wurden.
Ich bin es wirklich satt und extrem frustriert, weil ich nie zum Zug komme... Ich muss mir jeden Tag einen von der Palme wedeln, meine Eichel tut schon weh vom ganzen Wixxen und ist extrem geschwollen. Keine Frau will mich mal ran lassen, weil ich denen zu "Nett" und zu "Softy" bin. Ich könnte platzen, wenn ich durch die Fußgänger Zone gehe und die ganzen Stylo Mylo Flüchtlinge und Asyl-Afrikaner Händchen haltend mit glücklichen, hübschen europäischen Frauen sehen.
Was mach ich bloß falsch und was machen die richtig ???? Kann mir das mal jemand erklären???!!!!
Was ist bloß verkehrt in der Frauen Welt??
Die tollen, liebevollen, zivilisierten und netten Deutsche Männer werden links liegen gelassen und dafür werden kriminelle und aggressive Ausländer genommen, die gerne mal grabschen und Frauen missbrauchen oder vergewaltigen.
Wie man in letzter Zeit immer wieder in den Medien hört.
(Der afrikanische Zelt Vergewaltiger oder der Studenten Mord in Freiburg)
Naja einerseits ist es schade und sehr traurig was dort passiert ist, aber andererseits geschieht es den Deutschen Frauen Recht, weil jetzt bekommt ihr das was ihr verdient habt.
Jahrelang habt ihr die lieben Männer verarscht und nun bekommt ihr die ECHTEN Arschloch Typen massenhaft und gratis ins Land geliefert.
Ich wünsche euch noch viel Spaß auf den untergehen Schiff.
Aus der Ferne bereitet es mir große Freude zu sehen, wie euer Land immer mehr im Chaos versinkt. Muhahaha

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:31:44 2018 No.12144629 >>12144611 Only problem is... we kinda go apeshit once a fuhrer unlocks us.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:33:34 2018 No.12144648

>>12144613
>It's doing better than any other EU country so fuck off with this self pity.
you are fucking retarded I already showed in this thread that the economy is doing great, private wealth is among the lowest in europe. where is all that money going? in paying off sovereign debt and feeding half of africa, certainly not into the workers pockets who create all this wealth. how the fuck is it self pity if maybe I would like to keep some of the fruits of my labour? go kys you brainlet youre probably a tax leech yourself so God knows youre invested in this shitshow continuing or you might have to get a real job.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:33:43 2018 No.12144649
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>>12144613
>nobody makes money trading
>It's doing better than any other EU country so fuck off with this self pity. Jesus, this board is full of pussies.

No it's not, Norway and Switzerland are far ahead. And many other european countries with lower productivity still have a higher personal wealth.
A high GDP doesn't mean shit if the average person gets all their productivity stolen.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:34:27 2018 No.12144655 >>12144088 are you enjoying your 50% taxes? must suck to only get 3400 each month

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:36:12 2018 No.12144674

>>12144090

Not sure about Germany, but make nurses in the USA are in demand because they can physically move and restrain patients women can’t. If you are an RN, you can make higher than entry level programmers in most fields and get a job easily in any part of the country, but your job is mostly just giving meds and keeping charts of vital signs. Move into administration or become a nurse practitioner and you are basically a doctor with a 6 figure income.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:38:07 2018 No.12144686 >>12143853 Stop bashing my city stupid tripfag

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:38:28 2018 No.12144690 >>12144106 You really have no fucking clue how insurance works, do you? Trump no longer forces you to pay for it in the US. Go ahead and skip it. Then get sick or in an accident. Brainlet.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:39:08 2018 No.12144695
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>>12144621
not an argument

>>12144648
He might be a troll, I don't think anyone visiting this board can be that retarded
But then again most of my friends think the same
I can't understand why, it feels like I live in some kind of bizarro world
Are you part of a Discord/WhatsApp/Telegram group that likes to discuss politics by any chance?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:39:34 2018 No.12144702 >>12144628 hol dir einfach nen trans girl, ez

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:46:46 2018 No.12144742

>>12144560
>>12144624
>cyber economy is increasingly larger portion of the GDP
>cyber economy professionals are top of the middle class, supplying disproportionate amount of tax income
>they realize they can just earn portion of their income in Bitcoin and not report it
>state is now missing part of their income, raises taxes to compensate
>this incentivizes more high earning professionals to evade taxes through Bitcoin
>ageing population, ever growing bureaucracy and immigrants continue increasing states expenditure
>state starts printing even more because rasing taxes is counter-productive by now
>this incentivizes the rest of the population to put savings into Bitcoin
>at some point the state collapses, many smaller jurisdictions take its place and they have to treat their taxpayers as customers, not cash cows

Mind you, this will take a couple decades to play out. Even the utterly dysfunctional Soviet Union lasted for 80 years.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:47:24 2018 No.12144748 >>12144491 > ich habe einen negerfreund der kommt her und bezahlt seine zahnarztrechnung bar und wahrscheinlich schwarz und deshalb hab ich recht deutschland braucht jeden araber bei solchen wertlosen fehlgeburten wie dir

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:53:17 2018 No.12144800

>>12144695
>not an argument
you're a fucking idiot, no wonder you're unhappy

>>12144648
there is nowhere to compare Germany to that is doing better, except maybe Switzerland. even they drank the multicult koolaid. the entire West is in the shitter at the moment.

should you stop feeding Africa? of course. is that going to happen? probably not. I completely agree you should see more fruits of your labor but that's probably not going to happen. my only point is, every other country is going through the same thing, this isn't anything specific to Germany.

also keep in mind the US now views you as direct economic competition, expect a lot more sabotage to come your way.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:53:51 2018 No.12144808
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>>12144742
>they realize they can just earn portion of their income in Bitcoin and not report it

I don't think that that will happen any time soon.
Cheating taxes through bitcoin doesn't get you far, because you can't use the money for anything like real estate/cars etc.
Honestly I think we the next recession will already to the trick. Our governments are barely scraping by, just imagine what would happen if 10-15% of jobs would disappear and a lot of stock market wealth.
Or if a giant like Deutsche Bank would go insolvent. They would have to pring money like crazy, making the € worthless and at some point they won't be able to pay the gibs for all the migrants, which will result in riots.
This could all happen within the next few years.

Also I don't ever see the government treating its workers like customers as long as we live in a democracy where more than 50% of people are dependend on some sort of transfer payments.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 07:56:43 2018 No.12144834
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>>12144800
>you're a fucking idiot
Still not an argument. And I never said I'm unhappy.
I know every western country has swallowed the socialist meme, but some have it worse than others and compared to Norway, Switzerland and the anglo countries Germany is in a much worse state. (Austria too, there is not much difference between those countries)

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:00:31 2018 No.12144866

German comp scientist here 33yo: 45k starting, currently @ 55k which are about 33k net.
I also sell weed for like 17k a year so I end up with 50k net. I don't pay rent because I live with my mom - girls hate it but they love the money so who cares just fuck them in a hotel and tell them you work for vw

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:02:30 2018 No.12144880 >>12144834 >Switzerland >Norway perhaps but Norway is irrelevant on the world stage. Switzerland is the banking vault of the world so it is no surprise. >Anglo countries lolwut Canada, UK and USA are fucked.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:03:17 2018 No.12144884 >>12144628 Refugees Welcome! Protipp: mach mal ne Therapie. Love is everywhere, auch in dir. Grüße aus Hamburg

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:03:56 2018 No.12144889

>some have it worse than others and compared to Norway, Switzerland and the anglo countries Germany is in a much worse state

can´t really see that, is visited Paris,London, New York, St. Petersburg, Dublin, Dubai.

wouldn´t leave Germany for that shitshows in a million years.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:04:30 2018 No.12144892 >>12143740 Wir sind ein reiches Land in dem wir gut und gerne leben lol

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:06:13 2018 No.12144903

Jetzt ist aber mal gut ihr dummen Nazifotzen.

Deutschland muss Bürokratie abbauen, CO2 Steuer nehmen, mit diesen Einnahmen die Einkommenssteuer senken und dann läuft der hase auch.

Und wenn das System mal die oberen 10% so durchleuchtet wie einen harz4 empfänger, dann wäre das schön. Ich finde es natürlich gerecht, dass ein nicht arbeitswilliger gekürzt wird, aber wohlfahrtsmäßig stehen die kosten für diese Durchleuchtung in keinem verhältnis zu der überprüfung von milliardären und darüber hinaus muss die erbschaftssteuer angepasst werden. Ein nichtsleistender erbe zahlt 0%. Dieser Staat ist sowas von am arsch in allen belangen versagt diese hurensöhne da oben verkacken alles FOTZEN

Ich bin übrigens studierter Ingenieur und lebe wie ein könig ihr bitchez

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:06:32 2018 No.12144904

>>12144808
Well the Bitcoin economy is growing over time and you can purchase pretty much anything you want with it already. It is also extremely useful for transfering value across time and space. If you are dollar cost averaging into it for several years you are pretty much guaranteed to beat fiat or even stocks in preserving the value.

As for democracy, it is on its death bed. It was useful system for a while, but like the church in middle ages it grew corrupted and self-serving over time. Bitcoin is the final nail in the coffin, but it has to evolve into actually being money first and that will take some time.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:07:01 2018 No.12144909
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>>12144880
>but Norway is irrelevant on the world stage.
I'd happily live in a country that is irrelevant in the world stage if it means I have a high standard of living.

>Switzerland is the banking vault of the world so it is no surprise.
Not that much anymore nowadays, the banking industry is just a part of their economy, the rest is doing well too.

>Canada, UK and USA are fucked.
Again, how?
Higher income, higher private wealth and lower taxes.
They also have taxes/regulations that are far too much, but they're not as fucked as Germany.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:08:01 2018 No.12144915 >>12144884 du kleine beta schwuchtel wirst gerne gecuckt von rapefugees. gebs zu.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:09:26 2018 No.12144922 >>12144909 >how Click my fucking ID and go read the posts I made outlining expenses you god damn lazy faggot. Whatever can be said about America - Canada and UK are worse.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:09:33 2018 No.12144923

>>12144903
>Bürokratie abbauen
Ja

>CO2 Steuer
brainlet
Verstehst du nicht, dass eine CO2 Steuer eine Steuer auf ALLES ist? Bei jedem Vorgang wird CO2 erzeugt, daher besteuerst du CO2 besteuerst du JEDES EINZELNE PRODUKT/JEDE DIENSTLEISTUNG.

>Ein nichtsleistender erbe zahlt 0%
NATÜRLICH, DAS GELD WURDE JA AUCH SCHONMAL BESTEUERT, WIESO ZUM TEUFEL SOLLTE MAN ES NOCHMAL BESTEUERN AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:10:56 2018 No.12144932

>>12144628
the question i ask myself is why a smart and good guy like this anon hangs out with stupid (you have to help them with their homework) and bad girls. how do people even come into these situations? why would you even want girls which are not only stupid, but then also have an obviously bad upbringing, making it impossible for them to counter-act said stupidity? then making them chase idiots?

why are people "friends" with girls they shouldn't be interested in, not only on a romantic level, but even only on a social one?

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:11:03 2018 No.12144934

>>12144748
besagter freund ist deutscher, self made millionär und hat keinen bock mehr hier den laden mitzufinanzieren deswegen schaut er nur noch für arztbesuche vorbei die er aus eigener tasche bezahlt. und wenn du araber so geil findest kannst du ja mal einem den schwanz lutschen du wertloses stück scheisse.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:13:32 2018 No.12144956 >>12144903 die commie fuck

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:14:27 2018 No.12144964

>>12144909
>Higher income, higher private wealth and lower taxes.

the gap between rich and poor is much bigger there and you habe to include the benefits from health care, insurance etc in your calculation when you compare the us with germany.

living in the us means, you pay much more , you get much less and even education is a fucking scam there.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:15:26 2018 No.12144969

>>12144903
>die steuern sind zu hoch
>deshalb sollten wir die luft zum atmen besteuern
>dann können wir andere steuern wieder senken
der absolute zustand des otto normal verblödeten. macht wahrscheinlichk eine 5k netto im monat aber er "lebt wie ein könig".

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:16:28 2018 No.12144978

>>12144934
>mein negerfreund ist millionär und anstatt sich einen arzt zu suchen kommt er nach deutschland und wird wien kassenpatient behandelt weil er ein dummer neger ist. die geschichte soll mich glaubwürdig machen

deutschland geht unter mit rassenschanden wie dir

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:16:52 2018 No.12144980 >>12144932 mommy issues

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:17:32 2018 No.12144986

>>12144969
*keine 5k
diese ganze land kotzt mich nur noch an, alle werden abgemolken und holen sich dann noch einen drauf runter weil sie am ende der woche 5 euro mehr in der tasche haben als ihr nachbar. hauptsache bier im kühlschrank und den negerkindern in afrika gehts ja auch schlecht, da darf man eh nicht meckern. die deutschem müssen erst elendig in der gosse verrecken wie zu weimar zeiten bevor sich hier mal was ändern wird, die sind viel zu glücklich damit wie dumme sklaven behandelt zu werden.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:17:55 2018 No.12144989 >>12144866 I graduated in comp sci here in the Midwest USA and I'm 25 y/o making 60K/yr which is 51K after tax. In the USA, you only pay high taxes if you're making 100K+ and even then you probably paying 25% effective taxes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:18:29 2018 No.12144996 >2018 >Germany >not being a Beamter im höheren Dienst Enjoy your €400+ healthcare bill while I pay less for a better service, kek.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:18:59 2018 No.12145000 >>12144655 yeah, i enjoy it since i can basically do whatever i want in Berlin

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:19:45 2018 No.12145006 >>12144978 100% arier sein grossvater hat silberne nahkampfspange im zweiten weltkrieg. mein urgroßvadder war veteran in beiden weltkriegen. du stück scheisse kannst mich mal mit deinem dummen gesabbel aber du trollst ja wahrscheinlich eh nur rum.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:20:04 2018 No.12145011 >>12143958 Opfer

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:21:57 2018 No.12145025 File: 54 KB, 600x525, eggman8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12144969 >>12144986 Based Couldn't agree more >>12144996 Fuck off leech, but you're right I pay 300€ for healthcare every month and get JACK SHIT

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:24:28 2018 No.12145047 File: 168 KB, 747x1120, less-talk-tank-top-logo-white.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12144986 Licht und Liebe & Lesstalk <3

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:30:45 2018 No.12145093 >>12145047 holy fuck American wannabe

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:31:36 2018 No.12145102

>>12144969
du bist so verdammt unterbelichtet.

Du weißt schon, dass CO2 Verbrauch krass subventioniert wird? Rechne mal die Externalisierung von CO2 durch und dann schau was du auf dem Markt für 1 tonne zertifikat zahlst. Die scheisse wird seit jahren schon weltweit subventioniert. Wenn wir diesen Umstand internalisieren, durch eine Steuer statt fehlgeleiteter Kapazitätsgrenze, dann senken wir den Verbrauch auf ein optimaleres Niveau und schaffen Investitionsvolumen für bspw. infastruktur etc.
Lies dich mal in Klimapolitik ein und schau dir mal das Thema doppelte Dividende an etc. etc.

Ich glaube du bildest dir etwas auf dein halbwissen ein, aber wissenschaftlich sauber gearbeitet hast du spast mit sicherheit noch nie. Ich könnte dir 50 artikel von unter anderem nobelpreisträgern reinkopieren, wo instrumente der fiskalpolitik insbesondere im CO2 Kontext behandelt werden.

Aber denk mal weiter. dass du von irgendwas ne ahnung hast du hurensohn.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:40:12 2018 No.12145160 File: 30 KB, 633x758, 1534877542459.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12143948 Sitting in train now that is stuck before station. I want off.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:42:29 2018 No.12145174 >>12145025 Stehst du auf eggman?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:42:32 2018 No.12145176 >>12145093 Looks nothing like an American to me more like a typical eurofag.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:48:42 2018 No.12145215 >>12144442 are you mining crypto or why is your electricity so high ? i pay 20 bucks a month in germany

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 08:52:19 2018 No.12145234 >>12145102 Eine CO2 Steuer bedeutet, dass du mehr bezahlst, nicht weniger. Steuern senken gibt's nicht bei Merkel.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 09:05:30 2018 No.12145326

>>12145102
wann wurden denn in den letzten 100 jahren mal die steuern gesenkt du vollspast? wir zahlen heute noch sektsteuer aus dem ersten weltkrieg. wie gottverdammt verblödet kann man eigentlich sein und meinen wenn wir noch mehr sinnlose steuern einführen haben wir auf einmal mehr geld in der tasche. studierter ingenieur und meint er hat was im gehirn aber zu dumm um simple zusammenhänge zu schnallen lmao. mal ganz davon abgesehen dass die ganze CO2 / Klimawandel nummer eh eine riesen verarsche ist. die größten klimaverpester sind drecksländer wie china und indien meinst du die zahlen CO2 steuer? nur die europäer sind blöd genug um auf so einen scheiss reinzufallen. deine 50 nobelpreisträger kannst du dir sonstwohin schieben du vollhonk.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 09:07:49 2018 No.12145341

>>12145102
und nochmal ich wette du machst als ingenieur keine 5k netto im monat und meisnt du lebst "wie ein könig" lmao. in den USA macht ein knastwärter mehr kohle wie du und du vollspast willst noch MEHR steuern zahlen. hirnverbrannten idioten wie dir ist einfach nicht mehr zu helfen...

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 09:11:12 2018 No.12145363
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>>12145102
Wie zum Teufel wird CO2 Verbrauch subventioniert?
Bekommen Leute die CO2 verbrauchen Geld vom Staat oder was?

>senken wir den Verbrauch auf ein optimales Niveau
>optimal

Zentralismus führt nie zu "optimalen" Werten und Effizienz, das kann nur der freie Markt
Was interessieren mich irgendwelche Nobelpreisträger, die fast alle von staatlichen Geldern abhängig sind? Obama hat den Friedensnobelpreis bekommen während er unendlich viele Drohnenangriffe durchgeführt hat. Das sagt doch bitte einen Scheißdreck aus.

>>12145174
Ja

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>>12145102
Außerdem ist dir klar, dass bei jedem Vorgang, absolut JEDEM VORGANG CO2 entsteht?
Der Staat hat jetzt schon viel zu viel macht, aber wenn er JEDEN EINZELNEN VORGANG besteuern könnte, selbst einfach nur atmen, dann sind wir von Nordkorea nicht mehr weit entfernt.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 09:18:14 2018 No.12145394 >>12145369 Antworte mir gefälligst, du midget

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 09:19:19 2018 No.12145405 >>12145394 Edit habs gesehen, sorry. Haha

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 09:27:31 2018 No.12145469 File: 28 KB, 500x500, 1537938907471.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12145405 >haha

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 09:34:16 2018 No.12145514

>>12143740
>>12143818
>>12143871
>>12143902

Not the fucking whiny German cunts with their constant bitching again.
>reee muh high taxes muh low wages 3k euro/month (1.7 net) isn't enough 4me, muh armes Deutschland, muh ich hasse dieses Land, muh ;_; ^1000 [in German]

Fuck you, you fucking whiny bitches, you don't know shit about being fleeced and living from hand to mouth.

Go live in 'le based Eastern Europe" for a year or two, to my glorious CUNTry, where minimum full-time monthly wage is €400 and even that is taxed so you only get like €300 net, cheapest 1-room in the capital (where all the jobs are) costs like 200 without utilities, food/clothes costs more than in Germoney and 21% VAT is applied to EVERYTHING. You whiny fags get €400/month in neetbux + free housing and other shit and yet you have the gall to complain.
Fuck you.

Survive a year in my country and you'll change your opinion on Germany, i can guarantee you that.
You will sing "Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit" and kiss Merkel's picture every single morning.
Son of a bitch, if I ever see another German bitching thread here ever again, ffs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 09:35:19 2018 No.12145517 >working poor Such is the life of the average German wagie. They really can't function without an authoritarian leadership keeping them in line, Germans are simply too autistic.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 09:36:21 2018 No.12145519

>>12145102
>Falling for the CO2 meme
>Implying a tax reductiom would ever be a thing
>Implying that the "Nobelpreis" means something
>Falling for the, you need more taxes and not less gv spending meme

Das ist der durchschnittliche Deutsche und deswegen werdet ihr untergehen. Gratuliere.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 09:41:33 2018 No.12145557

>>12145514
>Go live in 'le based Eastern Europe" for a year or two
fuck off pavel, nobody cares about your slavshit countries. this is a grown up talk for first worlders only. germany is propping up the entire EU plus your alcoholic shit nations and Im sick and tired of paying for every dumbass country in the world. german wealth should go to german workers and not subsidize africans or middle eastern rapists.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 09:47:43 2018 No.12145588

>>12145514
whose fault is it btw that your slavshit dirtholes are crap countries? germany was bombed into the stone age in WW2 and now were the strongest economy in europe. my grandfather almost died from some fucking yankee bombers and people had to build up everything from scratch, google "trümmerfrauen". now were #1 in europe and thats because germans work and are not a bunch of useless alcoholics like slavs. but do we see anything from that wealth? hell no were all being taxed to death. we have the entire fucking third world coming into our country and holding their hands out for gibs. and then when you complain about it some inbred slav has the audacity to tell you to shut up because his country is even worse. fuck all of you faggots

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 10:01:42 2018 No.12145666

>>12143758
You have no idea how rent has risen.
Living in Berlin, working as a Senior web Dev and was 2 times homeless because I'm not good enough for a flat. Where I live now rent rises every year (it's in the contract).

Also just because things are fucked in the US doesn't mean we over here can't hope and demand for more you ultracuck

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 10:02:18 2018 No.12145669

>>12145588
you stupid cunt, the us ,france and uk literally paid for every economy piece after 1945 because they wanted a stable country in front of the russians.

not to mention that it had been millions of italians, turks and other immigrants who did the fucking work because "muh german" were to busy grinding stones in sibiria.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 10:04:51 2018 No.12145703 >>12143818 german subhuman

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 10:14:15 2018 No.12145787

>>12145669
>it had been millions of italians, turks and other immigrants who did the fucking work
sure thats why their own countries are all shitholes and broke, they were too busy building up germany. jesus christ you are stupid. are you german btw? maybe ask your grandfather what he has to say about this "muh turks built up the german economy" meme you fucking self-hating cuck. I guess according to you we should thank the americans for bombing us into the stone age lmao, go get pegged by your girlfriend or whatever you worthless soibois get up to in your sparetime.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 10:20:16 2018 No.12145832 >>12144474 It is but good luck once they fire you out of wagehell and you have to relocate by any chance. It is incomparably better to buy if you know you are going to stay 20 years in one place.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 10:20:20 2018 No.12145834 muh muricans bomb us muh we aryan muh

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 10:24:19 2018 No.12145859

>>12144477
Bizbruder, healthcare is crippled by design.
If anything is working well, Dr.Goldberg appears and pulls out statistics out of his ass saying we have to cut staff, budget and healthcare availability, narrow the bottleneck even further...just to be more (((effective))).

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 10:30:20 2018 No.12145906

Mei Mei Mei, manchmol frogt ma sich schon was nan do los is... Alle midanner heulns hier rum wie glaana affn.
Ich frog mi echt ob ich zu dem volk dazu ghör. Jedenfolls sterb ich net an Bluthochdruck wie die meistn colerischn saubreisn elendichn!
MAHLZEIT

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 10:34:35 2018 No.12145935 >>12145514 Exactly what I try to tell my fellow german "Brothers" but they still complain... Seems we germans are never pleased. Unironically Nazi Germany wasnt hard to implement here with this negativ mindset

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 10:35:29 2018 No.12145941 >>12145906 >Jedenfolls sterb ich net an Bluthochdruck wie die meistn colerischn saubreisn elendichn! wenn ich an blutdruck draufgeh muss ich mir das elend wenigstens nicht weiter anschauen du weisswurstfresser

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 10:38:45 2018 No.12145961

>>12145588
>My grandfather
You fucking useless fucking retarded fucker. I bet you don't do anything productive though, reminiscing about previous's generations hard work and stroking your dick. You've not rebuilt shit fucker. I'm glad Merkel fucked up your country beyond repair.
Also it's not the strongest economy Deutsche Bank is about to fucking blow

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 10:40:41 2018 No.12145978 >>12145961 fuck you, you anti-german piece of shit. I work my ass off and a shitload in taxes so that muhammed and jamal can lounge about all day. the Deutsche Bank is not the German economy by the way you absolute retard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 10:41:02 2018 No.12145983 >>12145941 Um dich is a net schood du glaaner binscher der sei Maul in an annonyma drickfilm forum aufreißt und sunst 100% a feicha sau is! A spruchbeudl bist, a dampfblauderer!

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 10:41:31 2018 No.12145988

>>12145557
>this is a grown up talk

you Germans sure like to whine, doesn't look like very 'grown up' thing to me, lmao. You rarely see others crying online so frequently, not even Swedes, Greeks or Spaniards complain so much as Germans do and they are being cucked much more harder than you ever have been. It's always Germans who hate not only their own country/government, but the entire nation. Why is it so, Mr Big grown-up?

>>12145588
>tries to destroy Europe for the second time in 50 years
>gets BTFO
>instead of getting Morgenthau'd, gets assistance from the US through Marshall Plan because of rivalry with the USSR
>rebuilding cities + foreign investment props up the economy that is already growing
>preferential treatment from both West AND East, MFN status with the US and multi-billion trade deals with the USSR during the Cold War
>"w-why are we so rich so we can't shut up about our [[[inherent kraut superiority]]] it and we have severe cognitive dissonance, so we bitch 24/7 that we're actually poor and hate our country - at the same time"
>"why the East that lost the Cold War and was fleeced by the West in the 90s during the (((shock therapy))) and predatory privatization is so poor xD"

Eternal Kraut, everyone.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 10:42:31 2018 No.12145998 >>12144425 can confirm, am also europoor that lived in those two countries. absolute shitholes compared to other places. real estate is not only expensive but there is no space in large parts of austria. 500 m2 land is considered large.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 10:43:00 2018 No.12146005 >>12145983 lern mal lieber vernünftig deutsch anstatt hier rumzupöbeln. die tschechen brauen übrigens besseres bier als eure pferdepisse die ihr weissbier nennt.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 10:44:53 2018 No.12146021

>>12145978
Anti German? You were the one blaming Slavic people you fucking piece of garbage. Swear to god keeping a victim attitude is not getting you anywhere you fucking degenerate.
Do something about it then instead of complaining you fucking German cuck

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 10:45:28 2018 No.12146028 >>12143958 Warum bestehen eigentlich diese Hohlbirnen mit Ihrem unverständlichen Kauderwelschdeutsch drauf, den Scheiß auch noch im Internet so wiederzugeben wie Sie es sprechen?

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 10:45:43 2018 No.12146029

>>12145988
fuck off pavel you obviously dont understand the distrinction between a high GDP and a low private wealth. we got tag teamed by the entire fucking world what excuse does your shithole of a homeland have for being in the sorry state it is? go and down a bottle of vodka and beat up your wife or whatever you slaves like to do,.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 10:47:19 2018 No.12146038

>>12146021
>Do something about it then instead of complaining you fucking German cuck
how about you doe someting about your shit country and stay out off German threads. this discussion doesnt even concern you, go clean some toilets at least youre good at that. youre obviously too dumb to understand economics 101

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 10:48:13 2018 No.12146044
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Für alle diese Vollidioten die immer davon labern dass Amerika so toll ist...

Dann verpisst euch doch. Deutschland ist echt das beste Land was es momentan gibt. Unsere Sozialversicherungen sind die besten auf der Welt, ihr werdet NIE im bankrupt gehen wegen einer OP o.ä.

Was zum Teufel wollt ihr undankbaren Säue denn noch? Hier in Deutschland kann man so viel GEld verdienen, ohne sich Sorgen darum zu machen, dass man wg. einem kleinen Unfall 30000000 € zahlen muss, und man wird auch nicht auf offener Straße von Leuten oder den Bullen abgeballert.

Verpisst euch aus Deutschland, da sind mir die Flüchtlinge wirklich lieber, die wissen wenigstens unser hervorragendes Versichertensystem zu schätzen, auch wenn sie zu viel schmarotzen.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 10:48:22 2018 No.12146045 >>12146005 Du siehst gar nicht mehr wie dich deine eigene kleine Welt ins Grab bringt... Aber bitte, wenn du der Meinung bist jede Konversation direkt als Kampf sehen zu müssen... Viel Erfolg dabei, ich klink mich aus.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 10:48:28 2018 No.12146047 >>12146029 Tag teamed by the entire world because you fucking retards tried to fuck everything up not once, not twice but three times now

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 10:49:45 2018 No.12146062 >>12146038 Hey, my country is better off than yours fagso, just walk into a refugee camp and get stabbed already adolf

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 10:49:52 2018 No.12146063

>>12146044
>da sind mir die Flüchtlinge wirklich lieber, die wissen wenigstens unser hervorragendes Versichertensystem zu schätzen, auch wenn sie zu viel schmarotzen.
na ich wüsst das auch zu schätzen wenn ich aus afrika komm und hier alles in den arsch geschoben bekomme obwohl ich nie einen cent eingezahlt habe du vollidiot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 10:50:13 2018 No.12146067 >>12146028 Warum nan net? Is doch eh a südsudanesisches klohäusla forum

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 10:50:58 2018 No.12146073 Jeder anständige Deutsche weint beim Anblick dieses Fadens. Ihr gehört alle ins Gas.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 10:52:39 2018 No.12146083

>>12146045
na siehste geht doch auch in deutsch. und die pöbelei hast ja wohl du angefangen, also heul jetzt nicht hier rum. aber ja kannst dich auch gerne verpissen aus dem thread hier, ausser "bastscho macht euch doch keine sorgen, alles ist gut" hast du ja eh nix hier beizutragen.

>>12146062
>muh adolf muh refugees
yeah yeah, get fucked oleg

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 10:53:10 2018 No.12146087 >>12146047 We wont fuck it up the fourth time my friend

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 10:54:49 2018 No.12146094

>>12146044
Deutschland wird in seiner derzeitigen Form in 2 Generationen nicht mehr existieren.

Du kannst dich dann mit deinem Lieblingsflüchtlingen paaren. Geburtenrate ist unstoppable. Aber Hauptsache mit Migration versuchen die Ursache zu kompensieren. ;)

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 10:57:46 2018 No.12146118 >>12145469 Bist ja ein heftiger typ.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 10:59:01 2018 No.12146127

>>12146083
Na wennst meinst... Ich wollt nur paar kek's. Du bist niemand mit dem man diskutiert, du steckst in deiner Echokammer fest und jeder scheint dein Feind zu sein.
Du bist das typische Beispiel des Feierabend-bier-stammtisch-gsicht der verlernt hat das das Leben lebenswert ist.

Ich nehme an du bist am unteren Ende der Nahrungskette und fühlst dich deshalb von jeder anderen Meinung direkt persönlich angegriffen.
Aber hey, eins ist sicher, du bist ein richtiger Deutscher!

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 11:00:04 2018 No.12146130
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>>12146044
Leute heulen hier, verständlicherweise, wegen der extrem hohen Steuerlast rum. Man zahlt sich hier nen Wolf wenn man Geld verdient, was die soziale Mobilität stark beschneidet. Man muss keine Amerikanischen Verhältnisse hier haben, aber manche Sachen sind einfach zum Scheitern verurteilt und gehören abgeschafft. Das Deutsche Rentensystem ist nicht mehr tragbar, gehört komplett dichtgemacht der ganze Laden. Jeder soll selbst privat vorsorgen. Ebenso zig Sozialhilfen, gehören komplett restlos gestrichen. ALG nur für Kurzzeitarbeitslose oder Leute die einen Arbeitsunfall erlitten haben und nicht mehr Arbeiten können. Sämtliche Ersparnisse sollten den Bürgern in Form von Steuersenkungen zu Gute kommen. Was ist das überhaupt für ein Witz, dass jede Missgeburt die ne Woche hier lebt Geld vom Staat in den Arsch geschoben bekommt? Jegliche Geldwerte Leistungen vom Staat sollten nur Deutsche Staatsbürger erhalten können, dass sage ich as nicht Biodeutscher.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 11:00:39 2018 No.12146137

>>12146029

Oh, but i'm not the one who's boasting about greatness and affluence of his country and complaining about poverty at the same time. You used to have lower income inequality and wealth distribution during the Cold War, because the West decided to buy your loyalty this time.
Eastern Europe wasn't so fortunate.

>what excuse does your shithole of a homeland have for being in the sorry state it is?

What excuse does the eastern half of your memereich have for not being on the same level of wealth with the Western part you stupid kraut? Fuck's sake you're dumb. You're literally incapable of putting 2 and 2 together.

>we got tag teamed by the entire fucking world
>ze German Reich didnu nuffin, just wanted sum Lebenraum for muh projects!

You should consider yourself lucky that your country survived at all and wasn't divided into 30+ states, like Morgentau had proposed. Which only happened because the US needed you against the USSR.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 11:02:21 2018 No.12146147 >>12146130 Ihre Ansicht sowie Ihre Aussage ist diskriminierend.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 11:06:33 2018 No.12146166 Bayern gehören eher abgeschoben als Flüchtlinge.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 11:09:49 2018 No.12146188

>>12146127
>Du bist niemand mit dem man diskutiert,
jane denn dafür müsste man tatsächlich argumente bringen. von dir kommt ja nur der übliche scheiss wie "echokammer, nimms nicht persönlich, ende der nahrungskette". du bist ein totaler vollpfosten und hast keine ahnung wer ich bin und wie mein leben aussieht. aber wenn du dich dann besser fühlst dann stempel halt einfach alles als stammtischgewäsch ab, das ist natürlich verdammt einfach und spart denkarbeit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 11:12:01 2018 No.12146204 >>12143921 Unlimited 4g for 30 euro in the netherlands inclysive calls and sms

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 11:14:10 2018 No.12146218 >>12146127 >Ich klink mich aus

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 11:15:35 2018 No.12146225

>>12146137
>What excuse does the eastern half of your memereich have for not being on the same level of wealth with the Western part you stupid kraut
last time I checked, eastern germany was still doing a lot better than the slav shithole you crawled out of pavel. why dont you worry about your own country instead of shitting up this thread with your anti german hatred.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 11:22:07 2018 No.12146264 >>12145514 >there are worse places so you shouldn't demand improvement oh a retard. My country is also nice in comparison, but if our people wasn't robbed by the gov:t we would be much better off.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 11:22:51 2018 No.12146269
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>>12144866
>German comp scientist here 33yo: 45k starting, currently @ 55k which are about 33k net.
the absolute state of europoors, kek. That's what 20 year old CS kids make in internships DURING school.

Jesus you guys really live in misery.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 11:27:00 2018 No.12146295 File: 869 KB, 500x281, d4a.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 11:27:37 2018 No.12146305 >>12146269 True, but the dude you quoted will never face financial ruin from a cough.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 11:32:22 2018 No.12146344

>>12146305
>True, but the dude you quoted will never face financial ruin from a cough.
burgers have health insurance too you know. and from associates in the US its cheaper than the shit we have in germany pluse they have higher incomes and lower taxes. why should I be forced to pay a substantial amount of my income every month for health insurance and subsidize foreigners... when I have great health and havent even been to the doctor in a decade?
health insurance should be something that you pay for in case of a worst case scenario. you shouldnt be forced to pay thousands every year even though you dont need it while every foreigner in the planet can just walk in and take advantage off the system. its completely insane and youd have to be a grade-a cuck to be fine with it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 11:36:44 2018 No.12146382 File: 237 KB, 851x566, Unbenannt.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12146044 halt die fresse du nutzloser student

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 11:38:37 2018 No.12146399

>>12146344
I completely agree with you though, I wish all social security systems were closed and the money saved from not having to operate them redistributed to the population through lowered taxes. Thing is, murrilards would only rank 6th in net income per capita compared to European countries. Not to mention that you have fuck all in the way of social security systems in the US and a lower standard of living.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 11:40:54 2018 No.12146421 >>12146166 Genau so ein gesabbel ist typisch deutsch. Aber von Nation schwafeln... Lächerlicher kleingeist

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 11:41:07 2018 No.12146424 >>12146204 Get it in Ireland for 20

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 11:41:19 2018 No.12146426 >>12146305 I'm Canadian you dipshit. My CS friend got a 1-year internship paying him like $60K. He's not even from a top-tier school or a top-tier student. Enjoy your shitty welfare state faggot.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 11:41:34 2018 No.12146430

>>12145326
Bildungsferner hurensohn ich habe dir gerade erklärt, dass die emission von co2 einen negativen externen effekt darstellt und wenn du die physik anzweifeln willst, welche den anthropogenen klimawandel längst zweifelsfrei bewiesen hat, dann hör bitte sofort auf jegliche elektrische geräte die aufgrund der erkenntnise in der physik extistieren zu nutzen und schicke mir einen berittenen Boten. Also Klimawandel = Fakt, CO2 in Luft = erhöhing klimawandel, ok? Also Kosten für CO2 in Luft setzen sich aus vielen faktoren zusammen, bspw. gesundheitssystem wird stark belastet viele menschen sterben an den folgen oder werden krank, umweltkatastrophen, extreme hitzetage etc. etc. Also müssten in einem funktionierenden markt diese kosten vom verursacher mit in die preisbildung einkalkuliert werden aber das passiert nicht, dass nennt man Marktversagen also muss man hier eingreifen, hat man gemacht mit dem Europäischen Zertifikatenhandel. allerdings wurde dieser absolut falsch entworfen und es hat sich ein preis eingestellt welcher die EXTERNEN KOSTEN (gesundheitssystem umweltkatastrophen etc. ) nicht deckt sondern nur etwa 20% davon, also werden 80% pro tonne CO2 subventioniert da diese kosten in den preisen nicht kalkuliert werden du hirntotes stück kot.

Jetzt kommst du mit heterogenen ländern ist klar aber dazu gibt es keine einfache antwort weil das problem natürlich multiliteral verhandelt wird. Hier gibt es gewisse grundsätze aber am ende sind diese verhandlungen mit theorien der spieltheorie greifbar. Aber hinterlasse deinen kindeskindern gerne einen überhitzten katastrophenplaneten du elendige schwuchtel.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 11:43:31 2018 No.12146453 >>12146426 >A >FUCKING >LEAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 11:43:57 2018 No.12146458 >>12146421 Brainwashed Whiteknight detected.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 11:44:06 2018 No.12146459 >>12146188 Du scheinst zerfressen von Hass zu sein. Alles gute noch...

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 11:45:52 2018 No.12146473 >>12146458 Boring Statement.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 11:48:01 2018 No.12146495 >>12143934 Larp

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 11:48:10 2018 No.12146497

>>12145514
3 passport master race reporting in.

They key is to do work remotely (for 90%+ of the time at least) for companies in the west, but live in the east. Get the big paychecks from stupid western companies, enjoy low cost of living in easter europe. Be the bridge, the middleman for western companies that need inexpensive services from the east (example: software development, IT services in general, accounting work, preperation work for business processes etc.).

Right now i'm in Germany for the first time in 2 years to visit family over holidays, and boy, the speed at which this country in turning into a shithole is simply unbelievable. When in landed at Frankfurt airport (germany largest airport) i couldn't even catch a train to my hometown because the train union plebs were on strike. lmao, can you belive this shit? in a """first world country""" you can't get from city A to city B because some shitheads are on strike. I had to take a hotel for the night for 150€.

Jesus, im so happy in no longer have to deal with this shithole and its poor service everywhere.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 11:48:19 2018 No.12146500

>>12146225

But why isn't it on the same level with the Western part, kraut? It's been 30 years since 1989. So, even after decades and billions of cohesion/solidarity tax money invested into it you Eastern Germany somehow still can't reach parity with the Western part.
If you can solve that riddle then maybe you will also understand why Eastern Europe isn't on par with the Western Euripe. It really shouldn't be that hard for your [[[superior aryan intelligence]]]. Also, keep in mind that none of the Eastern European countries had a generous wealthy sponsor like former DDR had in Western Germany.

Regarding 'anti-german hatred' - i'm not the one who is burning with hatred here, kraut - you are. Oh, wait i forgot, that is your natural state - to hate all your neighbors, to hate the entire world and to hate yourselves - which is exactly what your countrymen (yourself included) are doing itt
>>12143846
>>12143891

You haven't even seen real anti-german hatred yet. But sure, keep sperging out and posting 'muh reich dindu nuffin' memes online and irl - and you might see some, just like your granpa did.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 11:48:24 2018 No.12146502 >>12146473 And still more input than your 14 prior posts. Makes you thinking.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 11:53:23 2018 No.12146547 >Makes you thinking. Thx 4 the kek!

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 11:53:36 2018 No.12146553

>>12146430
>Bildungsferner hurensohn
lmao du bist son typischer volldepp der studiert hat und meint jetzt er hat was auf dem kasten obwohl er gar nicht rafft wie dumm er eigentlich ist. dann hör doch auf zu atmen wenn du den klimawandel aufhalten willst du vollhonk. die grössten dreckschleudern der welt sind china und indien, wenn irgendjemand tatsächlich was an umweltschutz gelegen wäre dann würde man bei denen ansetzen. aber das versteht so ein trottel wie du natürlich nicht dass der ganze CO2 scam nur ne riesen abzocknummer ist um noch mehr steuergelder aus erste welt nationen abzupressen. als nächstes dann die regenwälder abholzen oder was? die produzeiren ja auch CO2.

>>12146459
>von hass zerfressen
lmao und du scheinst zu dumm zu sein auch nur ein einziges argument zu formulieren. hast jetzt schon drei mal angekündigt dich zu verabschieden, dann verpiss dich doch endlich anstatt hier was von hass zu labern, so deppen wie du sind echt zu vorhersehbar.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 11:57:31 2018 No.12146591

>>12146553
Die regenwälder produzieren co2 ? Troll oder absolut unterbelichtet, not sure. Bestimmt bist du maurer und trinkst gerade dein 6 feierabendbier dazu schön gut und günstig salami weil fleisch essen dein recht ist und du dir nicht mehr leisten kannst. Dein erbärmliches leben muss so kleinkariert und scheisse sein hahahaaha
Morgen 6 uhr aufstehen und ab auf die baustelle du versager

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 11:57:34 2018 No.12146592

>>12146497
>enjoy low cost of living in easter europe

Since we got into the EU the costs of living are going up steadily. Including real estate prices etc. But yeah, your plan is good, i was actually doing something similar until recently. Too bad some Western companies (especially US ones) would only hire US citizens.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 11:58:13 2018 No.12146599

>>12146497
how long you been doing this anon? Im location independent and spent three years abroad. eventaully you get sick of all the dumb foreigners and want to go back home (where you find even more dumb foreigners). the way I see it my family has been here for centuries so why should I leave to make room for a bunch of third world savages. if anyone has to leave its them.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 12:08:36 2018 No.12146678

>>12146044
>>12146453
>>12145514
>>12146399

>be euroturd
>live in a cramped flat in a commieblock
>drive a 0.9L diesel cuckbox that you paid 30k euros for
>average professional makes what a mcdonalds manager makes in usa
>get absolutely raped with taxes
>still pretend you have higher standards of living than north americans

hahaha.
the eternal europoor delusion

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 12:15:53 2018 No.12146733 >>12146591 google mal dunning kruger, du hast echt überhaupt nichts verstanden

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 12:18:30 2018 No.12146755

>>12146592
I live in Ukraine most of the time now. Housing costs here are mostly comparable to eastern europe, a good apartment in one of the major cities will cost $350-$500 (perhaps even more in Kiev), depending on various factors. Costs for food and services however are stupidly cheap, almost on third world country levels. Haircut $2, 10GB 4G internet $2, Taxi ride to anywhere in the city $2-3, having a full meal in a good restaurant including drinks $4-6, vegetables and fruits are stupidly cheap if you go to the central markets etc.

>>12146599
I started building this biz while i was still employed in Germany (~5 years ago). I used freelancers in eastern europe for most of the time until i built enough capital to incorporate and hire people full time, that was 2 years ago.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 12:21:34 2018 No.12146784

>>12146755
>that was 2 years ago.
three years is usually the breaking point where people pack it in and go back home or stay expatting forever. personally I just couldnt hack it I lived in EE and SEA and I hate these cultures way too much to stay there indefinitely so now Im stuck back home paying taxes and arguing with morons on the internet who think I do manual labor and am some hillbilly when I probably lived in more countires and make more money than them lol

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 12:22:56 2018 No.12146794

>>12145102
Du weisst doch dass china und india keine CO2 steuer hast? wenn deutschland ein solcher steuer macht wurde es nur die pries für kohl und gas niederpressen, und andre länder würden merh verbrauchen und dabei sich gagnen. Ein CO2 steuer ist nur ein subvention für andere länders kohl und gas.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 12:29:55 2018 No.12146847

>>12146784
I understand why one couldn't live in south-east asia, too much chaos, lifestyle is too different. But i feel good here in Ukraine, even tho the mentality is different. People here are more cold when first meeting them, but they warm up after a few meets. I don't see any future for eastern europe with the exception of Switzerland, so i plan on staying here longterm. Granted, i was always rather a loner, no huge circle of friends, so that makes things easier.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 12:35:49 2018 No.12146898 >>12145557 >Germany is propping up the entire EU That's not how that works, the EU is massively economically beneficial to Germany.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 12:38:27 2018 No.12146925 >>12146898 The shit tier currency that is part of it, yes. The rest, not so much.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 12:43:35 2018 No.12146966
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>>12146044
Then have fun living in germany but don't be suprise if they are no more free stuff and everything goes shit. It isn't a surprise that high education people leave the country.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 12:44:02 2018 No.12146971
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>>12146553
>als nächstes die Regenwälder abholzen. Die produzieren ja auch CO2

Ist das real oder über du schonmal für deinen Auftritt bei mitten im Leben?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 12:48:17 2018 No.12147001 >>12143740 Wtf that's how much I make in italy

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 12:56:09 2018 No.12147075 >>12147001 Fucking hell, 13 years school, 3 years dual apprenticeship and i am still 70€ away from average net income haha. Fucking tax hell, bitcoin better goes to 100k

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 13:00:58 2018 No.12147111
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>>12146044
top kek, typischer Merkelgläuber detektiert

> Unsere Sozialversicherungen sind die besten auf der Welt
lol was. Wenn du hier 30 Jahre lang arbeitest, immer brav einzahlst, dann arbeitslos wirst und nach 24 Monaten keinen neuen Job findest dann darfst du erstmal deine ganzen Lebensersparnisse aufbrauchen bevor du auch nur einen Cent bekommst

> Hier in Deutschland kann man so viel GEld verdienen

Keine Sau verdient hier Geld. Die deutschen sind arm, sau arm. Wir haben im Mittel das geringste Vermögen in der Eurozone, hinter Ländern wie der Slovakai, Griechenland oder Portugal.

> Verpisst euch aus Deutschland, da sind mir die Flüchtlinge wirklich lieber, die wissen wenigstens unser hervorragendes Versichertensystem zu schätzen, auch wenn sie zu viel schmarotzen.

top kek, geh weiter Tagesschau gucken du Knecht

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 13:02:14 2018 No.12147120

>>12146966
Brain drain will continue to increase. But at the least, all the "proud" german who are left and mostly in this sick thread can breed some multicultural kids. Maybe you can get the birth rate back up? You imported the best breeders at least.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 13:08:09 2018 No.12147176 >>12147120 Germany has another 20-30 years to go, thats it. Even a massive right-wing push wouldn't save it; the demographic statistics are irreversible.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 13:14:35 2018 No.12147239 I'm really feeling sorry for my generation and the generation below us. We're going to be the American Kulaks of the revolutions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 13:20:24 2018 No.12147313 >>12143941 the butthurt in this post is incredible

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 13:22:44 2018 No.12147336

ITT: plebs who think Ferraris Lambos and other luxury cars , yachts and mansions are sold more than ever for no reason. We were all being fucked don't you get it ? The global economic system is a one way funnel of wealth from the masses to the few. Wake up. Lidl prices are the same as every where else now. All prices across the board are being balanced. The illusion of choice in it's prime. You better buckle up before you land in the gutter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 13:25:37 2018 No.12147365 >ITT People discussing only headlines and feelings

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 13:27:56 2018 No.12147390
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Seeing how many retarded socialists are here and probably still holding crypto is a massive bear flag to me.
It will take until only its only libertarians who actually understand it economicly until crypto has potential to go up again

>>12146430
>Viele Menschen sterben an den Folgen von CO2 Ausstoß, Umweltkatastrophen entstehen
Leben wir im selben Deutschland?
>extreme Hitzetage
Verstehe nicht wie durch die ein wirtschaftlicher Schaden entsteht, aber ok.
>Marktversagen
Durch den CO2 Ausstoß entsteht kein Schaden, niemand stirbt, weils zu viel CO2 gibt, keine Ahnung was du laberst. Weißt du wie gering der CO2 Ausstoß von Deutschland im Vergleich zur Welt ist? Das sind 0.00000irgendwas
Zwei Vulkane erzeugen mehr CO2 als alle Menschen auf der Welt zusammen, inklusive China und Indien.
Und aufgrund dieser schwachen These willst du dem Staat die Macht geben JEDEN EINZELNEN PRODUKTIONSSCHRITT zu besteuern, du hast sie wirklich nicht mehr alle.
Btw. bitte lerne den Unterschied zwischen das/dass bevor du rumlaberst.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 13:30:10 2018 No.12147412 >>12144029 t. balding iranian guy

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 13:30:25 2018 No.12147414 >>12147390 >Libertarians >Understanding No

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 13:35:15 2018 No.12147449 File: 562 KB, 1080x1920, eggman2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12147414 not an argument have fun losing your savings during the next recession, because of money printing policies

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 13:41:39 2018 No.12147524 >>12144590 Going to detroit next year. Am I gonna get murdered?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 13:43:54 2018 No.12147550 >>12146044 Lmao, the red stuff only applies if you're a negro

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 13:44:54 2018 No.12147564 >>12143740 nice is this the secret nazi thread?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 13:48:40 2018 No.12147601 >>12147564 Nice, is this a dumb comment?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 13:50:40 2018 No.12147619 >>12147601 what the fuck did you just say about me you little bitch?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 13:55:31 2018 No.12147670 >>12146847 What's wrong with east asia? Cuz it looks like a pretty nice place. I really like the sun and the sea

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 13:56:06 2018 No.12147680

>>12147390
Du bist so dumm da fällt mir nicht viel ein.

Dein argument mit dem natürlichen CO2 kreislauf zieht leider nicht. Du verstehst nicht, dass CO2 was in die atmosphäre kommt dort verweilt, weil es nicht wieder " abfließen" kann. Jede CO2 Emission wird also kumuliert und der natürliche kreislauf war jahrtausende im gleichgewicht ( ozeane etc. nehmen co2 auf du vollhonk) Die abweichung ist signifikant und es ist ein physikalischer fakt das der klimawandel durch co2 Emissionen entsteht du spast, wenn du das leugnen willst dann lehne ich sowieso jede diskussion mit dir ab weil du dann offensichtlich dumm oder interessenbehaftet bist und die physik welche ohne emotionen werte misst nicht anerkennst.

Die temperatur eines landes und das BIP stehen im zusammenhang, dafür gibt es korrelationen welche auch auf mikroebene nachgewiesen wurden, was meinst du warum arme länder auf der südhalbkugel so verfickt arm sind? Das optimum liegt bei 13° und das ein extrem heißer sommer die produktivität mindert und kosten für das gesundheitssystem verursacht muss ich dir auch noch erklären? Hast du jemals wissenschaftliche literatur gelesen oder gibst du nur deine bild nachrichten scheisse wieder du hurensohn? Das sind alles nachgewiesene fakten und wenn du wissenschaft als fake news abtust dann diskutier ich nicht mit dir.

Weißt du was marktversagen ist, nicht mal grundlagen vwl kannst du verstehen bei zeiten von wikipedia und co ? dummer spasti bist du.
Ich gebe dir nur recht im dem punkt, dass die folgen für arme länder natürlich drastischer sind als in europa, aber flüchtlinge kommen durch solche katastrophen auch nach europa und dann heult ihr hurensöhne wieder rum warum die flüchten, wenn industireländer die lebensgrundlage zerstören. Tolles argument, denkst du man kriegt eine internationale koalition für klimaschutz, wenn führende industrieländer sagen, dass sie eine geringen anteil haben und nciht mitmachen?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 13:58:56 2018 No.12147720 >>12147075 You gotta go to university dude.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 14:02:04 2018 No.12147753 File: 73 KB, 600x590, 1321353543257898.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12144903 Dieses. Witzig übrigens, wie die Neets hier das neurechte Heulen anfangen. Gez. Business Analyst mit ca. 4k netto, ein Jahr nach Abschluss.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 14:05:25 2018 No.12147799

>>12147680
>ist ein physikalischer fakt das der klimawandel durch co2 Emissionen entsteht du spast
Die einzige unbeantwortete Frage ist, ob dies nun durch den Menschen verursacht ist oder nicht. So viel zu deinen physikalischen Fakten. Klimazyklen gibt es seit Jahrtausenden und sind alles andere als eine Anomalie. Wie es so schön heißt, Kausalität =/= Korrelation.

Hauptsache Halbwissen in einem mongolischen Internetforum verstreuen. Godlike.

Hab mir auch deine restlichen Posts durchgelesen. Wie verblendet kann man denn nur sein? Eine CO2 Steuer? Vielleicht auch gleich eine Reichensteuer, eine O2 Steuer und eine Wassersteuer einführen.

Tragen sehr viel zu deiner CO2 Problematik bei.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 14:11:17 2018 No.12147863
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>>12147680
Die Länder auf der Südhalbkugel sind nicht so arm, weils so warm ist, sondern weil die Leute dort einen niedrigeren IQ haben. Die Wärme wird wohl auch ein Grund dafür sein, das (hier nur mit einem S, weils ein Relativpronomen ist) heißt aber nicht, dass wenn es in einem Land wärmer wird, dass (zwei S, da Konjunktion) die Leute sofort dümmer werden.
Ich streite nicht ab, dass der Mensch seinen Beitrag zum Klimawandel beitragt, dass er so stark ist wie du behauptest bezweifle ich aber. Schau dir mal die ganzen Klimamodelle von vor 20 Jahren an, laut all denen sollten wir jetzt schon tot/unterwasser sein.
Und den natürlichen Klimawandel können wir sowieso nicht aufhalten, auch wenn wir unseren CO2 Ausstoß ganz einstellen.

Die Schlussfolgerung, dass die Deutschen, durch die CO2 entstehen deshalb den Afrikanern die Lebensgrundlage zerstören und deshalb alle aufnehmen sollten ist totaler Blödsinn, mir redest du so eine Schuld nicht ein.

Du willst der Umwelt etwas Gutes tun und Überkonsum bekämpfen? Dann fang damit an dich gegen Fiatwährungen und Staatsschulden einzusetzen. Alleine die Staatsschulden sind 2000mrd€ an Überkonsum.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 14:11:25 2018 No.12147865

Self-employed (28 y/old, ~115k this year) German here. The whining in this thread is ridiculous, I seriously don't get what you faggots are complaining about. With enough willpower and discipline, you can achieve anything in this country. I've got a poor background myself but you get all the support you need. You get top tier education for pocket change, you get Bafög, the gov supports you if you want to start your own business (most people are too retarded to take advantage of this), you are safe, public transport everywhere etc. I could go on for hours. Don't blame this country for your own indiscipline.

>>12144903
>Deutschland muss Bürokratie abbauen
Nein, sonst sieht's hier aus wie in Skandinavien. Ich habe 8 Monate in Norwegen gelebt und gekotzt. Die faulen Hunde kommen ihrer Arbeit nicht nach und keiner hat ein Auge für Präzision und der Grund dafür ist deren Laissez-faire Mentalität.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 14:18:28 2018 No.12147974
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>>12147865
You quote the most retarded post in this thread and criticise the ONLY thing he was right about.
How is scandinavian people being lazy correlated with them having less burocrazy? (If that is true, idk)

I am also self employed, come from a poor background and I am earning more than you. I just don't like to get 70% of fruits of my labour getting stolen at gunpoint.
And just because it's good doesn't mean it can't be much, much better.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 14:22:42 2018 No.12148020

>>12147974
Buerocracy forces people not to be lazy. And even in this country you have to run after everything but in other countries it's 10x worse because they lack Buerocracy.

>I am also self employed, come from a poor background and I am earning more than you.
Ich weiß jetzt schon, dass du lügst. Ich kenne keinen auf meinem Gehaltsniveau, der sich über so einen Kleinkram aufregt. Wenn dir die Steuerlast nicht gefällt, verpiss dich doch von hier. Nenne mir doch einem Land, in dem's besser ist und bitte sag nicht Schweiz.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 14:22:58 2018 No.12148024 >>12147974 Swede here and i can say that the norwegians and danes are spoiled shitless and have bad work ethic (and to a lesser extent swedes, but we have jantelagen so its better).

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 14:24:40 2018 No.12148040 >>12147601 >triggered by the word nazi >onions-filled kraut detected Time for your hourly call to prayer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 14:24:56 2018 No.12148044 >>12148020 >Buerocracy forces people not to be lazy. And even in this country you have to run after everything but in other countries it's 10x worse because they lack Buerocracy. it is a cultural thing you retard

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 14:27:02 2018 No.12148074 >>12145514 halt deine fresse cyka blyat untermensch

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 14:28:24 2018 No.12148094

>>12148044
Buerocracy is a result of our culture you fucking moron https://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/konjunktur/nachrichten/marktwirtschaft-staatliche-buerokratie-die-wiederentdeckung-preussischer-tugenden/22896974.html?ticket=ST-113856-Ls7YyvaMgqcQqmIfBIqn-ap6

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 14:35:52 2018 No.12148190
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>>12148020
>Buerocracy forces people not to be lazy.
LMFAO

>70% Abgaben
>Kleinkram

Ok. Ja, ich kenne auch wenige, was mich wundert. Stört dich die Scheiße nicht, die du at gunpoint da mitfinanzierst?
Wieso darf ich die Schweiz nicht nennen?
Was besser meinst du? Die Bürokratie, die Wirtschaft oder die Steuern?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 14:45:29 2018 No.12148348 >>12147619 That your comment is dumb mate >>12147720 Already planned for 2020

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 16:05:13 2018 No.12149398 >>12148190 >in 4chan ragen Geht es dir gut? Brauchst du einen safespace?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 16:30:41 2018 No.12149729 I like tripled my vacation and overall quality of life moving from the USA to Germany. Deutschland ist ganz basiert und amis haben kein ahnung wie scheiss leben in Amerika ist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 16:32:01 2018 No.12149747 >>12143977 live where the retired people live.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 16:33:43 2018 No.12149770 >>12144425 food is without a doubt cheaper (and better) in Germany than america.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 16:36:42 2018 No.12149796 >>12144189 *Leberkas dein boarisch ist sehr schlecht btw

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 16:40:30 2018 No.12149838 die einzige Beschwerde, die ich über Deutschland habe, ist, dass es schwieriger ist, ein Rezept für Amphetamin zu bekommen als in Amerika.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 16:57:42 2018 No.12150056 warum schließen wir Krauts uns nicht zusammen anstelle auf einem mongolischen Korbflechtforum zu flamen

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 17:03:05 2018 No.12150119 >>12150056 weil deutsche nerds irgendwo alleine zentralisiert absturz sind. siehe pr0gramm oder krautchan

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 17:03:29 2018 No.12150125 >>12143853 people of hannover, UNITE!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 17:07:37 2018 No.12150171 File: 80 KB, 670x599, best.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why is Hamburg so based

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 17:49:03 2018 No.12150651 >>12143740 hol on so you be saying, i make more than half of the germans in pooland? wtf, u used to be rich af germany.

Anonymous Mon Dec 17 17:53:32 2018 No.12150709

>>12147863
Dann zeig mir mal ein konkretes modell du hirntoter. Und es gibt unzählige studien welche eindeutig zeigen, dass der menschengemachte klimawandel diese temperaturerhöhung über den vorindustriellen zeitalter bedingt. Du kannst ja gerne weiter deine meinung haben, allerdings wird diese nichts an der physik ändern welche du ohnehin nicht verstehst. So elendige versager wie deinesgleichen wählen afd und denken immer meinungen = wissen, dabei seid ihr einfach nur erbärmliche kreaturen welche gott sei dank keine lange halbwertszeit haben. Ich hoffe du hurensohn kannst dir npcj nen strick leisten.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 17:58:39 2018 No.12150768 MANNHEIM REPRESENT

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 18:49:31 2018 No.12151337 File: 81 KB, 571x644, integration_programs.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12150709

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 18:52:56 2018 No.12151362 >>12150709 hahaha der junge ist so mett bums mal wieder ne geile alte brudi du klingst mad

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 20:27:16 2018 No.12152257 >>12151337 die mit der gelben strickjacke und der brille würd ich auch "kulturell bereichern"

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 17 20:52:20 2018 No.12152453 >>12144088 How difficult is it to learn these?

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