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[Anonymous No.12121855]

Why are American workers ghosting their employers?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/12/12/workers-are-ghosting-their-employers-like-bad-dates/

[Anonymous No.12121893]

get fucked boomers

[Anonymous No.12121896]

>>12121855
Because most boomer employers possess a god complex and expect devout loyalty and extraordinary work ethic with very little to offer in return.

[Anonymous No.12121935]

>washpost paywall

kek, fuck off

[Anonymous No.12121942]

I'm gay

[Anonymous No.12121952]

>>12121935
>He wants to be spoonfed for free.
Here's a screenshot, faggot.

[Anonymous No.12121953]

>>12121896
>Because most boomer employers possess a god complex and expect devout loyalty and extraordinary work ethic with very little to offer in return.
lmao it's fucking pathetic. this is 100% accurate. they got propped up by the government at the expense of their progeny's future on top of it, and then they act like they AREN'T both the most wealthy and shittiest generation of all time. get fucked boomers.

[Anonymous No.12121961]

>>12121896
t. Ocasio-Cortez

[Anonymous No.12121973]

i ghosted mcdonalds once, lel

[Anonymous No.12121984]

Business has been not replying to employees sending in resumes for how long? Karma if they have to deal with the same shit now.

[Anonymous No.12121996]

>>12121855

Because I haven't forgotten all the times they tossed my resume into the trash over the years.

[Anonymous No.12122009]

>>12121896

Balless baby bitch boomers want me to say those things

talk about being a fuckin

> narcissist

[Anonymous No.12122021]

Because employers been ghosting workers for the last decades now. What happened to a phone call when not getting the job? Workers been dealing with this bullshit for years now, and now that suddenly unemployment is at lowest levels ever and its a workers market, employers are crying. Fuck them seriously.

[Anonymous No.12122029]

>>12121855
sorry not sorry, we /neet/ now

[Anonymous No.12122043]

>>12121855
Employers have zero loyalty and have spent the last four decades selling us out to China and Mexico and India and everyone else. The labor force is just giving them the same treatment.

[Anonymous No.12122044]

>>12121855
Increase in productivity without an increase in pay. You do good and they make the deadlines tighter. Then they do retarded business decisions and ask for government gibs to bail themselves out. They care more about making themselves look good and control over efficiency and a successful business.

[Anonymous No.12122054]

I applied to 100 jobs and got "ghosted" by 98 of those companies.

[Anonymous No.12122057]

>>12122021

Is there any data on rejected job offers? I've turned down quite a few over the past year due to lowballed wages/salaries. It's an intensely gratifying feeling to see a job reposted again and stay vacant for months after you turned it down.

[Anonymous No.12122095]

>>12121896
>the suggestion box is empty
Kek

[Anonymous No.12122100]

/biz/ let me tell you what I did once. I got a job offer and accepted it but it didn't start for another month.

So in that month in the meantime I went and interviewed for a shittier job and got a second job offer, accepted it as well, and then let them train me for 2 weeks (just watch HR videos and not do shit). I was the only employee they were training and this was for a white collar office position. They paid me $1000 after training was over so I took it and then just stopped showing up. Started the first job according to plan and nothing was lost. This is a great tip for anyone on /biz/ looking to make a quick buck.

[Anonymous No.12122531]

>>12122100

based

[Anonymous No.12122548]

>>12121953
>communist false flagging as a nazi
Why do you do people do this?

[Anonymous No.12122551]

>>12121896
Baste and redpilled

[Anonymous No.12122553]

>employers fire their employees with zero notice, often after making them commute in
>have literally been fired by text message before
>employers get salty when they get a taste of their own medicine
GET
FUCKING
REKT
>give 2 weeks notice, go in, endure 2 weeks of hazing, harassment, and hell
>or don't
golly what to choose what to choooose
you get exactly the amount of respect you give your employees. you treat us like shit don't be surprised at a walkout.

[Anonymous No.12122579]

>>12122100
I have too much integrity to do that

[Anonymous No.12122604]

>>12121996
This shit
>last year sent application to this one company
>well worded cover letter and everything
>ghosted me with no response
>2 weeks ago
>some cunt recruiter in their hr department sent me a message asking if I'm open to new opportunities
NNNNNNNNNNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH
>>12122057
Feels good man. I see this one company post the same position at least once a week for the past 2 years. Either they're farming for resumes or they can't keep a worker in the position.
>>12122100
based and redpilled our lord and savior of devilishness
I'm going to look for things like this, never seen one for my field though
reminder to boomershits day of the pillow soon, gen y has too much debt and no money to pay it, we are crashing this economy with no survivors and you and your real estate and 401ks can get your asshole pounded in by a crack addict on skid row for a can of creamed corn. eat shit and die, boomerscum.

[Anonymous No.12122624]

>>12122553
It's better if you tell them you got a higher paying job elsewhere and that you have to take it, immediately, unless they pay you a little more. Let them pay you more and then within a month go to the other job anyway and ghost them.

This is like when someone pays you off not to press charges on them so you take their money and agree, and then press charges anyway because fuck them. This is what we should be doing to all employers.

[Anonymous No.12122647]

>>12121855
Probably half people with anxiety and half people who just don't give a fuck.

I have bad anxiety and used to work for a boss who would get pissed off every time I needed a day off. My entire day would just be anxiety and bad feelings because he had to make me feel inadequate for taking a day off. It got to the point where I would no call/no show just because I didn't want to get bitched at, which just led to more anxiety. So one day I blocked his number and just stopped showing up. That seemed like a more painless option then telling him I was leaving his shitty company and dealing with the inevitable bitch fit.

[Anonymous No.12122648]

>>12122604
You can do that for any job not in your field. Like let's say your field is insurance. So you have the insurance job lined up 30 days from now. Get a job at a local property management firm in the meantime, watch 2 weeks of "how to clean mold from bathrooms" videos as training, and then just walk out. It's that easy.

[Anonymous No.12122700]

>>12122100

Although I agree that employers and HR whores should get fucked, but dont you think you're being abit of a nigger?

[Anonymous No.12122748]

>>12121855
can I get the article text pls? Some of us don't pay for WaPo

[Anonymous No.12122763]

>>12122748

Here:
>>12121952

[Anonymous No.12122774]

>>12122748

Economists report that workers are starting to act like millennials on Tinder: They’re ditching jobs with nary a text.

“A number of contacts said that they had been ‘ghosted,’ a situation in which a worker stops coming to work without notice and then is impossible to contact,” the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago noted in December’s Beige Book, which tracks employment trends.

National data on economic “ghosting” is lacking. The term, which usually applies to dating, first surfaced in 2016 on Dictionary.com. But companies across the country say silent exits are on the rise.

Analysts blame America’s increasingly tight labor market. Job openings have surpassed the number of seekers for eight straight months, and the unemployment rate has clung to a 49-year low of 3.7 percent since September.

Janitors, baristas, welders, accountants, engineers — they’re all in demand, said Michael Hicks, a labor economist at Ball State University in Indiana. More people may opt to skip tough conversations and slide right into the next thing.

“Why hassle with a boss and a bunch of out-processing,” he said, “when literally everyone has been hiring?”

Recruiters at global staffing firm Robert Half have noticed a “ten to twenty percent increase” in ghosting over the past year, D.C. district president Josh Howarth said.

[Anonymous No.12122776]

>>12122700
Consider that the jobs I'm doing this to are already extremely underpaid, far too low to expect any company loyalty, and that means that if they want to pay me $1000+ to watch 2 weeks of HR "How to avoid offending your empowered female coworkers as a white male in 2018" videos, then I'll be the best HR-video-watcher they've ever seen.

[Anonymous No.12122779]

>>12122774

Applicants blow off interviews. New hires turn into no-shows. Workers leave one evening and never return.

“You feel like someone has a high level of interest only for them to just disappear,” Howarth said.

Over the summer, woes he heard from clients emerged in his own life. A job candidate for a recruiter role asked for a day to mull over an offer, saying she wanted to discuss the terms with her spouse.

Then she halted communication.

“In fairness,” Howarth said, “there are some folks who might have so many opportunities they’re considering they honestly forget.”

Keith Station, director of business relations at Heartland Workforce Solutions, which connects job hunters with companies in Omaha, said service workers in his area are most likely to skip out on low-paying service positions.

“People just fall off the face of the Earth,” he said of the area, which has an especially low unemployment rate of 2.8 percent.

Some Nebraska employers are trying to avoid unfilled shifts with apprentice programs that guarantee raises and additional training over time.

“Then you want to stay and watch your wage grow,” Station said.

Other recruitment businesses point to solutions from China, where ghosting took off during the past decade’s explosive growth.

“We generally make two offers for every job because somebody doesn’t show up,” said Rebecca Henderson, chief executive of Randstad Sourceright, a talent acquisition firm.

And if both hires stick around, she said, her multinational clients are happy to deepen the bench.

While ghosting in the United States does not yet require that level of backup planning, consultants urge employers to build meaningful relationships at every stage of the hiring process.

[Anonymous No.12122794]

>>12122779

Someone who feels invested in an enterprise is less likely to bounce, write Melissa and Johnathan Nightingale, co-authors of “How F*cked Up Is Your Management?: An uncomfortable conversation about modern leadership.”

“Employees leave jobs that suck,” they said in an email. “Jobs where they’re abused. Jobs where they don’t care about the work. And the less engaged they are, the less need they feel to give their bosses any warning.”

Some employees are simply young and restless, said James Cooper, former manager of the Old Faithful Inn at Yellowstone Park, where he said people ghosted regularly.

A few of his staffers were college students who lived in park dormitories for the summer.

“My favorite,” he said, “was a kid who left a note on the floor in his dorm room that said ‘sorry bros, had to ghost.’ ”

Other ghosters describe an inner voice that just says: Nah.

Zach Keel, a 26-year-old server in Austin, made the call last year to flee a Texas bar-slash-cinema after realizing he would have to clean the place until sunrise. More work, he calculated, was always around the corner.

“I didn’t call,” Keel said. “I didn’t show up. I figured: No point in feeling guilty about something that wasn’t that big of an issue. Turnover is so high, anyway."

[Anonymous No.12122819]

>>12122776
Teach me...

[Anonymous No.12122860]

>>12122794
>employers are so shitty, underpaying, and overworking micro managing disloyal cunts to cause high turnover
>employees see the high turnover and treat the employer like they are--a bicycle
>employers whine and cry
boomers were a mistake
>>12122700
>nigger
respect is earned, not automatic
employers don't want nigger employees they should stop treating all their employees like niggers
>>12122648
that's salient, not sure if I have the nuts but I'll keep it in mind, you're a god by the way

[Eternal Boomer No.12122920]

>What, you want me to dance to Cotton Eye Joe between waiting tables?
>Yeah, yeah. See you tomorrow.

What. Why didn't he show up for work today? Why isn't he responding to my phone calls? I need him here right now. He's my best employee.

[Anonymous No.12122954]

>>12121896
What the fuck, are boomers even human?

[Anonymous No.12122975]

>>boomers finally getting their justice

[Anonymous No.12122992]

>employers treat employees like shit
>employees ghost them
>gosh darn millenials ain't got no integrity!

[Anonymous No.12123000]

>>12121984
this. i've been ghosted by so many recruiters it's absurd.

[Anonymous No.12123014]

>>12122860
>respect is earned, not automatic

What are you, 20? Respect should be your default engagement with people, because you never know who you're disrespecting.

[Anonymous No.12123031]

You're sucked the cock, why treat your slavemaster with respect when you're leaving.

[Anonymous No.12123048]

>>12123014
95% of people are cunts
They can go to hell and you can too
they made a toxic work environment with stagnating wages despite skyrocketing cost of living, and skyrocketing requirements to apply (college, years of xp) as well, no more training offered, they want you to have done the exact same job before or they won't hire you, phd in janitorial work for 3 pennies an hour and you'd better be grateful.
i hope it burns to the ground
BURN IT DOWN
NO SURVIVORS
And yes, that is what my father taught me, "Respect is earned, not given." sorry you didn't have a father.

[Anonymous No.12123134]

>>12123048
Look at this weak ass dude lmao

[Anonymous No.12123175]

>>12123048

Oh dear 95% of people are cunts, I guess the 5% of people left are the only ones that keep the world spinning.

Whats the statistical probability that you belong to the latter group, cunt?

[Anonymous No.12123253]

>Janitors, baristas, welders, accountants, engineers — they’re all in demand

[Anonymous No.12123306]

>>12123253

[Anonymous No.12123321]

>>12123048
>95% of people are cunts
LMFAO the problem is very clearly you if you honestly believe this. I would say less than 5 out of any 100 people I meet are even close to being rude to me. And I'm not a girl.

[Anonymous No.12123322]

>>12123253
FUCK JANNIES

[Anonymous No.12123326]

>>12121855
Cause my dick bigger than all them

[Anonymous No.12123331]

>>12123322
checked

[Anonymous No.12123348]

>>12122100
devilish

[Anonymous No.12123353]

>>12122604
>Day of the pillow

[Anonymous No.12123438]

there is no honor in work anymore

[Anonymous No.12123857]

>>12122100
nah bro, I grew up in a functional household

[Anonymous No.12123880]

>>12122100
scummy as fuck

[Anonymous No.12123906]

>>12122100
>>12122100
this is how you make it. this is how you come up. you gotta hustle and scam and claw whatever little nuggets you can if you want to get rich.

[Anonymous No.12123911]

>>12123906
not really tho

[Anonymous No.12123928]

>>12123911
>lust ID
>lecturing others on morality
i appreciate the irony

[Anonymous No.12124015]

>>12122647
Brad?

[Anonymous No.12124064]

>>12123014
This motherfucker just watch the godfather or something?

[Anonymous No.12124113]

>>12121935
Open it in Incognito mode, brainlet

[Anonymous No.12124124]

>>12121855
>"Analysts blame America’s increasingly tight labor market. Job openings have surpassed the number of seekers for eight straight months, and the unemployment rate has clung to a 49-year low of 3.7 percent since September."
It bothers me that there are still people out there that believe this.

[Anonymous No.12124133]

>>12122992
This basically. I'm Gen Z and work for a shitty company. I've noticed that Zoomer hires were ghosting the company in different forms. Was surprised though when I realized what was going on it made me respect Zoomers for the first time. They are delivering justice to companies that have been shitting on people so long they don't know how to do otherwise.

[Anonymous No.12124146]

>>12124133
*Gen X

[Anonymous No.12124160]

>>12122021
>Unemployment is at it's lowest levels ever.
>What is real unemployment rate?
>What is wage stagnation?
Holy fuck.

[Anonymous No.12124168]

>>12124124
Even the labor force participation rate and prime age employment rate are getting unjusted.

[Anonymous No.12124465]

>>12122548
Why do boomers accuse everyone of being a communist? Like I could come out wearing a full nazi uniform and there would still be some fad old man calling me a "socialist" or something. Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.12124480]

>>12124064

fuck you kid, I don't need to explain shit to you. you do you.

but just to let you know, theres a lot of people that think just like you working at McDonalds.