/smg/ - Stock Market General

[Anonymous No.12107885]

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>I'm new to the stock market, what stocks should I buy?
Before you buy anything, make a brokerage account and read investopedia articles and/or the books in the OP list. If you don't have a broker, you can't buy stocks, and if you blindly buy things without understanding how the stock market works or doing any research on the individual stocks you're buying, you will lose money and it will be entirely your fault.

List of popular brokers:
https://pastebin.com/mrSchZPg

List of basic stock market terminology for newfags:
https://pastebin.com/VtnpN5iJ

Real-time market news:
https://thefly.com/index.php

Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

Free in depth technical analysis charts:
http://www.tradingview.com

Premarket Data:
https://pastebin.com/y9PRQLR3

Earnings Report Calendars:
https://biz.yahoo.com/research/earncal/today.html
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar

Biopharma Catalyst Calendar:
https://biopharmcatalyst.com/

Pump and Dump Advertising:
https://stocktwits.com

S&P 500 VIX Futures (For SVXY/UVXY, higher is better for UVXY, lower is better for SVXY)
https://www.investing.com/indices/us-spx-vix-futures

Basic rundown on options:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBAQtjyqNHw [Embed] [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuTTzfa4ePE [Embed] [Embed]

Suggested books:
https://pastebin.com/jgA5zTuC

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[Anonymous No.12107897]

NO TENGO DINERO

[Earnings Badger No.12107901]

Looming breakout or plunge on the horizon

[Anonymous No.12107905]

this market

[Anonymous No.12107933]

Lads I’m finally eligible for my company’s 401k, these are some of the options they recommend for younger employees. I’m thinking the vanguard option, what would you lot recommend?

[Anonymous No.12107939]

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.12107943]

>>12107933
go 100% tsm

[Anonymous No.12107948]

>>12107933
can you buy your own shit? Buy 25% each of QQQ, SPY, QLD, SSO

[Anonymous No.12107954]

Power hour buys: C and SWK
good luck to myself

[Anonymous No.12107958]

>>12107901
Strangle?

[MrSpoon !!6Yhl3yeXi9q No.12107970]

What the fuck is going on with uk politics? Seriously what the actual fuck is going on. Why is the fucking mogster in agreement with jezz "put ;em in the gulag if they blue" corbin? why does any one think may is a good leader what the flying fuck is going on. Her time as PM is like that episode of the simpsons where homer becomes a boxer by being able to be punched in the head till the other guy falls over. Why do people keep acting like the reason the brexit deal is a pile of wank is the fault of the brexiteers when the whole problem with the cunting thing is it's pandering to the fucking remainers. why does everyone repeat what europe says like we should give a fuck when we're negociating against them? why is this country full of brain dead NPCs? why are we taking this soft cock necociating stance? why are people defending may when her only redeming quality is that she refuses to fucking kill her self with dignity "she's a fighter is that may" she's a crabit old cow with a face like a melted welly who doesn't know when she's fucking dead fffffffffffffffffffffffffaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12107980]

I'M UP .13% JUST FUCKING HOLD OR GO UP
I NEED TO BE GREEN REEEEEE

[Anonymous No.12107987]

>>12107933
Spread it across value, international, midcap and vanguard smallcap.

[Anonymous No.12107992]

>>12107970
>What the fuck is going on with uk politics?

They're busy sucking each other off

[Anonymous No.12107993]

>>12107958

[Anonymous No.12107995]

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

also communism is stupid, will invariably fail because of its inherent inefficiencies and all commies should be thrown from helicopters

[LCIguy !7SgaW5KMQI No.12108003]

>>12107980
Just buy and hold some LCI

[Earnings Badger No.12108004]

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12108015]

>>12108003
OkAY AnON I'lL Be SUre 2 dO tHat

[Anonymous No.12108030]

i just raised some cash by trimming some positions. that usually means it's time to buy.

[MrSpoon !!6Yhl3yeXi9q No.12108032]

>>12107992
There is some serious MK-Ultra psyops going on it's the only explanation and I think it's through newspapers and twitter specifically. They are doing the information equivalent of pouring acid into peoples brains to turn them into zombies and it's working.

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.12108035]

They pumped it right after I sold. REEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.12108065]

>>12107943
What makes you say that fren?
>>12107948
This is just what the company offers I plan on putting other money into VOO on my own time this year as well
>>12107987
I like this idea of spreading it out, not sure if they allow that or not.

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.12108074]

>>12108065
cause everything else sucks and will under preform it

[Anonymous No.12108078]

>>12108035
you were told to listen for the bull stampede coming from the east

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12108090]

>>12107970
>be Theresa May
>things going poorly
>gets a bad deal
>33% of her own party votes against her
>she's leading a minority government anyway
>instead of establishing dominance she says she won't seek relection
>becomes a lame duck by her own hand
>even less influence
>Europe is pissed because they can't get their shit together
>the IRA in ireland is preparing for war to open the border
>economic crisis on the horizon

All because Boris Johnson hates muslims.
Amazing.

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.12108091]

>>12108078
I was looking at all the dead bulls to the west and got scared.

[Anonymous No.12108122]

>>12108090
>All because Boris Johnson hates muslims.
*east euros

[Anonymous No.12108134]

>>12108090
it's one of the perks of living in a city M8

[Anonymous No.12108140]

>>12107933
You would have to look into the individual funds, what they cover, and especially what their costs are.

Tracking broad market developments is already a great strategy and in general you would expect big funds for the same indices to do pretty much the same, so picking one or the other isn't really a big deal. The deciding factor would then be management fees. Passive ETFs obviously beat out actively managed funds by a mile.

As to composition: Something like 60-80% Developed World (US/EU) sounds good (most funds weigh by market cap, so the US will always outweigh EU, even if you don't go for US domestic and choose something broader like MSCI World). Mixing in 10-30% Emerging Markets is not a bad idea, as Asia is still a rising star (it's mostly the same general upwards trend, just with higher volatility and thus ultimately higher growth). Sprinkle in 10-20% Small Caps as they have historcially almost always outperformed the general market (which, due to market cap weighing, is absolutely dominated by large caps to the point that you barely notice mid caps even).

It depends a bit on the terms and conditions. If you have to pay fees per buy order, then it's obviously nonsensical to mix in a 10% position.

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.12108145]

>>12107970
>Her time as PM is like that episode of the simpsons where homer becomes a boxer by being able to be punched in the head till the other guy falls over.
Probably the best metaphor for this I've seen lol.

[Anonymous No.12108180]

any public biotech companies working on a cure for whiteness?

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12108192]

>>12108180
Long RGR

[Anonymous No.12108197]

it was just a pun on sadiq khan comments on terrorism but for the eternal liberalism here without a sense of humor i will have to point it out or they will see me as the dumb one.

[MrSpoon !!6Yhl3yeXi9q No.12108202]

>>12108090
I'm fighting the urge to go down to london and just fucking scream my lungs out at the anit-brexit protesters. I don't want to talk to them I don't want to convince them of anything I just want to screech like a fucking autist till my throat gives up.

[Anonymous No.12108210]

>>12107970
your whole fucking country is like a senile retire who used to be a big shot. "yeah, gramps, you used to run a globe spanning empire back in the day, before you took a world war to the knee. but now you need to stay in this hospital bed so you don't hurt yourself. no, no, Mikey died back in '91. Yeah that was almost thirty years ago! No sorry Grandpa, you can't go out and ride, we sold the motorcycle, you can barely walk now!"

Sorry, I know there used to be good times and it hurts looking at you like this. Maybe it's time to pull the plug, yeah?

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.12108211]

>>12108202
These anti-brexers look like fucking cucks.

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12108213]

>>12108202
>be anti-brexit
>don't turn out to vote
>brexit happens
>REEEEEEEEEEE WE DIDN'T GET TO VOTE

do it

[Anonymous No.12108221]

>>12108202
Why? Why don't you want to be part of the EU? Are there any compromises the EU could make that would let you be ok with staying? Name your price.

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12108235]

>>12108221
Economic union = good
Social union = bad because muzzies lmao go back to syria

[Anonymous No.12108247]

>>12108221
the EU is amazing as a trade block, as a currency, but not as a IM GONNA FUCKING TELL YOU IN WHICH DIRECTION YOU SHOULD PUT YOUR TOILET. dont put your toilet facing to the east. regulations

[MrSpoon !!6Yhl3yeXi9q No.12108263]

>>12108221
I voted remain. But unlike these fucking trogs, still dripping with scum from what ever dank cave the emerged, I accept the brexit folk won and would like to see us do it right if we're doing it at all.

[Anonymous No.12108271]

What the fuck did we just go Golden Bull

[Anonymous No.12108284]

What's the purpose of options like "SPX Dec 2018 100.000 call"?

[Anonymous No.12108290]

>>12108271
>Golden Bull

No

[Anonymous No.12108294]

>>12108235
But the muzzies the cUK takes in arent even EU.
I dont see the logic.

[Anonymous No.12108296]

Well so much for NVAX and NBEV....

[Anonymous No.12108304]

>>12108271
the golden bull run starts tomorrow

[Anonymous No.12108305]

>>12108284
optionality

[Anonymous No.12108314]

>>12107885
Seemingly wise op fren, is Robin hood a good place to buy/sell stocks?

[Anonymous No.12108334]

>>12108314
yeah robinfeel is the best because you can g amble to your hearts content without fees

dont even do ta anymore, I just buy and stocks randomly because it feels good I dont even make money

[Anonymous No.12108339]

>>12107885
MY SHINY TEETH AND ME

[Anonymous No.12108354]

anybody actually go over the books listed in the OP?

Any you would personally recommend? I have like 3 dozen books in my back log i need to know its worth my time

Also on the matter of books, any good micro/macro economic introductory books you would recommend?

[Anonymous No.12108389]

>>12108354
knowing too much about economics would probably fuck you up in the market. prices are based on profits, future expectations, and human sentiment, not the economy.

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.12108390]

>>12108354
You should read The Retarded Investor by Big 5 Guy.

[Anonymous No.12108399]

>>12108284
they go for extremely cheap, ie they're worthless. but say that there's a 1% chance a black swan event tanks the SPX by 100 points. so you'd need 2 black swans to put the option in the money or a 0.01% chance. But if 1 black swan happens, the option has a 1% chance of becoming in the money, ie it becomes 100x more valuable.

[Anonymous No.12108405]

BGS break up

[Anonymous No.12108413]

>>12108354
A random walk down wallstreet gives you literally everything you'll get from the free part of 2000$ USD seminars.
Found out when I read it and then wasted 6 hours of my life twice to be recommended index funds ( or spend several thousand bucks on muh secret trademarked F.O.R.M.U.L.A. to riches) .

[Anonymous No.12108445]

>>12108390
Essential /smg/ reading material

[Anonymous No.12108447]

2 days in a row Deans food rockets up in the last minute
This is clearly Blackrock buying more

[Anonymous No.12108460]

>>12108445
send link

:') wish it was real

hey at-least were better than the dumbfucks playing randomized number based games on their phones for 2 hours durrng their daily commute

[Anonymous No.12108478]

>>12108180

Theres a vaccine

An injection of big black cock

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.12108492]

>>12108389
Don't listen to this kind of sillyness anon. The only surefire way to make money in the stock market is to identify long and mid term trends. Day trading is tantamount to gambling. The only way to actually make money in the stock market is to keep your money safe when you're late cycle and put it into growth stocks after the crash. pic related, here's what happens if you just stick it in and wait a decade or two.

[Anonymous No.12108496]

>>12108445
Don't forget the bestseller follow up: "The Autistic Investor - The Definite Guide to /smg/"

[Anonymous No.12108500]

>>12108339

[Anonymous No.12108511]

>>12108492
That's if you bought at the peak of the dot com bubble

[Anonymous No.12108520]

>>12108492
annualized returns during 2 major crashes are still positive? Absolutely based, buy more SPY

[Anonymous No.12108532]

Ding ding ding! How did everyone do today? I’m up .07%, I’m too busy at my soon to be non-job to trade reeee

[Anonymous No.12108544]

>>12108492
>posting images from a guy selling weekly newsletters
lmao

[weed update No.12108545]

Blow off day but not bad (for my portfolio). Supports held. Also very light volume. Only one trade today to beef up my Canopy Growth position on the low. Some of my stuff got a nice uptick in the last two minutes to repair some of the damage.

Is tomorrow going to be support breaking down or do we bounce? I dunno? I'm asking the 8 ball...

Okay good. Meme magic is on my side.

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12108550]

>>12108447
Ratsu DF is not going to survive, look.at their EPS

[Anonymous No.12108554]

Why dont we start a pump and dump syndicate, targeting one stock per day

[weed update No.12108557]

>>12108296
>NBEV

Yeah that was a definite sell the news event. Same thing with CWEB.

[Anonymous No.12108578]

>Hold HASI since March
>Read an article on SA last month about how awesome HASI is and how its gonna make me a lotta money of I buy it now
>Sell at 23.10
>Goes up to ~24
>Yesterday they make a 5 mill stock offering

You guys were right, SA is a good indicator.

[Anonymous No.12108590]

>>12108532

Ugh. -3%. I beat the HMMJ ETF though. So... f-fuck yeah take that!

[Anonymous No.12108598]

>>12108590
How much do you gamble in the weed markets?

[Anonymous No.12108619]

>>12108532
+0.04%
Very exciting.

>>12108399
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.12108621]

>>12108532
notant trade today
backtesting showed that the style of trading am using would have been stopped out 90% of the time today

the markets becoming rapey like they were in September
this probably no good thing

[Anonymous No.12108627]

>>12108532
down -0.7% desu wa

>>12108550
Believe in white gold

[Anonymous No.12108629]

>>12108598

All of it. Although keep in mind i'm a swing trader. I don't bag hold broken supports.

[Anonymous No.12108632]

>>12108492
literally wrong, if you bought QQQ/SPY Jan 1 1999 and didnt buy any more you'd have made 2.6%+ after inflation, and if you started with $10k and contributed $500/monthly you'd be at 19%+ after inflation

stop posting meme graphs that are literal lies

[Anonymous No.12108643]

>>12108619
oh sorry just realized you said call and not put sorry anon my explanation makes no sense but same sort of thinking will lead you to why you might buy one of those call options.

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.12108656]

>>12108511
>>12108544
>>12108520
Here's another graph to clarify. Orange line takes into account dividends. No matter which way you cut it, we're not seeing real growth since the turn of the century, just bubbles that subsequently burst bringing us back to square one. >>12108520
You'd be better off buying TIPS, if that's what you want, much less volatility.

[Anonymous No.12108658]

>>12108629
how much is all of it anon?

[Anonymous No.12108661]

>>12108643
Yeah, I got you.

[Anonymous No.12108722]

>>12108658

lol I'm not going to tell you how much my portfolio is worth.

[Anonymous No.12108733]

>>12108656
neither that chart nor the other one you posted include dividends. if you went all in on jan 1999 you'd get ~4% annualized with dividends, adjusted for inflation. who the fuck goes all in all at once anyways? no one.

[Anonymous No.12108738]

>>12108656
>You'd be better off buying TIPS,
no because Im not a robot and would be averaging down on the spx dip, making more than bonds over time

[Anonymous No.12108750]

>>12108722
you're no fun

[Anonymous No.12108766]

>>12108750

[grim !!tqKNtpU7P6O No.12108788]

>>12108354
More books for you! Reply when you have the link so I can delete post.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1rq9DS_rEFIy8JrEeiDDqRhrviAy0Nnqj

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.12108789]

>>12108632
Seems correct anon, see for yourself
https://dqydj.com/sp-500-return-calculator/

>>12108733
As i already mentioned, the orange line in that graph includes dividends
http://www.simplestockinvesting.com/SP500-historical-real-total-returns.htm
>The orange curve shows the result of having all dividends reinvested (i.e., the total return)

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12108790]

QQQ is the perfect tech ETF but it's not free on TDA.
QTEC and FDN are close, but I might just pay the fee to get that triple Q

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12108805]

>>12108789
>buying at the top of the tech bubble and applying the results to the broader market
Wow this is peak disingenuous posting.

[Anonymous No.12108814]

>>12108805
he's a genocide denier just ignore him

[Anonymous No.12108823]

>>12108788
saved :^)

[Anonymous No.12108825]

>>12108788

wow thanks Anon, i saved the link

Thank you

[Anonymous No.12108827]

>>12107885

Buy colgate palmolive and procter gamble , good divident stocks

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.12108834]

>>12108805
I posted this graph for greater context for that reason
>>12108656


>>12108814
Excuse me if I'm not inclined to buy literal propaganda from Ukrainian politics.

[Anonymous No.12108838]

>>12108656
So it's a way to store wealth independent of inflaton, while keeping it short-term accessible? Yes, please!

Per US government's inflation calculator from Jan 2000 to Nov 2018 there was 49.31% inflation. Something like 2.8% annually for 19 years is acceptable for an investment.

Reference: bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12108857]

>>12108834
>that graph
You're knowledge and application of pseudo-economics is painful to witness, and your use of obscure and dubious sources to support your retardation is mind boggling
move to Venezuela and enjoy your paradise :^)

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12108867]

>>12108857
*your
holy fuck this is why you don't stay up for three days straight studying for finals kids
I want to fucking die

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.12108873]

>>12108838
just buy a deflationary currency like ripple.

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12108885]

WOW IT'S ALMOST LIKE COMMUNISM IS WRONG

[Anonymous No.12108897]

All I'm obsessed with is money.

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.12108903]

So is Uncle Powell going to make the markets moon for Kikemas?

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12108904]

>>12108885
WOW IT'S ALMOST LIKE TAKING GRAPHS OUT OF CONTEXT MAKES EVERYTHING WRONG

[Anonymous No.12108906]

Weed watchlist:

Aleafia broke out today on pitiful volume. I didn't like it so didn't buy just yet. Show me more volume.

Trulieve stuck in same range. No indication of reversal yet. No buy.

[Anonymous No.12108912]

>>12108897
its a game anon
dollar amount is your points
highest points wins, go

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12108916]

WOW IT'S ALMOST LIKE WHEN YOU LINK TO RESPECTABLE SOURCES YOU'RE NOT FUCKING RETARDED

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/042415/what-average-annual-return-sp-500.asp

[Anonymous No.12108923]

It's funny that every single MSNBC headline for the past few months on a weekday has been something like "Stock prices __________ due to china trade talks"

It's just absurd.

[Anonymous No.12108926]

>>12108912
It's true it's true.
Now I just need to get more points in this videogame but it's hard.

[Anonymous No.12108929]

Who likes Date Raiding here?

[Earnings Badger No.12108941]

If any of you have calls/puts in any NASDAQ stocks u should be very worried right now.

[Anonymous No.12108952]

I took a shit and it was green. Possible bullish indicator

[Anonymous No.12108958]

>>12108906

HMMJ ETF broke out of the descending trend a few days back, bull flag pattern, rejection of bull flag today, used the top line of the old trend as a quasi-support. $15 is the actual must hold and no foolin support

[Anonymous No.12108960]

>>12108941
why

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.12108962]

>>12108916
WOW IT'S ALMOST LIKE IF YOU AREN'T BROKE YOU HAVE MONEY!

[Anonymous No.12108971]

>>12108903
we have a goldun Bulle after the final candle lit

[Anonymous No.12108977]

>>12108857
>You're knowledge and application of pseudo-economics is painful to witness
pls comfy, you were unironically citing EPS a few posts ago

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12108982]

>>12108962
FUCKING COMMUNISTS MAKE ME WANT TO NUKE THE WORLD
LITERALLY WORSE THAN AUSTRIAN ECONOMISTS
IMAGINE BEING THIS RETARDED

[Earnings Badger No.12108983]

>>12108960
Cause its squeezing and having options is either gonna destroy you or make a ton , id say calls would be the way to go but we will have to see what happens

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12108995]

>>12108977
You don't believe in basic economic indicators to justify your purchase of GPRO
Cope harder, shillary

[Anonymous No.12109013]

>>12108926
I'm doing the wagie build its surprising effective vs the day trader build especially at low levels when your capital is still building up

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.12109019]

>>12108982
YOU KEYNESIANS ARE FUCKING COMMUNISTS OF A DIFFERENT COLOUR IMAGINE BEING A NIGGER HATING NIGGER!

[Anonymous No.12109030]

>>12108995
no, its becasue EBITA, ES, EPS havent correlated with stock price for over 20 years -_-;

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12109034]

>>12109019
ACTUALLY I'M A RADICAL-CENTRIST-ECO-FASCIST SO ALL OF YOUR ARE WRONG
EAT A DICK

[Anonymous No.12109035]

>>12108983
my QQQ calls are already down 90% so i might as well hold at this point

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.12109038]

>>12108838
The volatility involved in the stock market is one downside to that. I'm just pointing out it's hard to make real returns in the stock market than you might first think.

>>12108885
That capitalism leads to greater accumulation is one of the things communism is founded upon, however, my point had very little to do with the long term viability of capitalism. My point was that you can't automatically rely on stocks to always be a great investment. The last twenty years has shown that it's only barely beating inflation, and I suspect the crash sometime soon will drive right back to where we were in 2008. Sure, you can probably be guaranteed something if you hold onto it for 50 years, but that's a very illiquid investment.

>>12108904
I don't see how you're trying to disprove my point here, of course reinvesting your dividend gets you better returns, but if that's your strategy, you're still not that better off than 18 years ago.

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.12109044]

>>12109034
NOW YOU JUST MADE ME IMAGINE JOHN MCAFEE EATING HIS OWN DICK! ARE YOU FUCKING HAPPY!

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12109045]

>>12109030
We all need our spooks, okay? Let me have this one

[Earnings Badger No.12109053]

>>12109035
Whgens ur expiration? you might just BTFO of everyone here soon

[Anonymous No.12109055]

>>12108958

And last one because the sector likes to follow Canopy if there is not crazy good news for the period.

Canopy is ranging inside the short term triangle. Held above the lower trend line. No test of ~$40-40.50 support range today. Weak volume from the bears on this ticker.

[Anonymous No.12109057]

Tripfags were a mistake

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.12109068]

>>12109057
I don't give a fuck, the damn market is fucking closed.

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.12109071]

>>12108916
That annualized 7% returns includes a lot of eras where stocks have done very well, which are included in the graphs I attached. As they themselves say

>For an individual's investment success, when he chooses to enter the market makes a significant difference. The stock market performed very well for an investor who bought stocks between 1950 and 1965, but the market was nothing but a continuous 15-year disappointment for an investor who entered in 1965. The market's best sustained performance was from 1983 to 2000.
The period we're in right now? Also a lot of disappointment if you've eaten every crash. That's literally all I've been trying to say.

[Anonymous No.12109076]

>>12107970
your problem was trusting british politicians to work for the peoples interests

>>12108090
>>becomes a lame duck by her own hand
>>even less influence
shes distancing herself so she doesnt go down in history as the creator of the worst brexit possible

jokes on her though, it might already be too late to distance herself from the deal's outcomes


>>12108213
just like our 2016 elections

truly amazing

>>12108263
brexit might cause the UK to fall apart, or at least NI

it still amazes me that she pulled the trigger for a hard brexit before forming a plan, it gave every single EU member unbeatable leverage for any agreement

not just the EU as a whole, but of every nitpicky objection any single EU nation wants

[MrSpoon !!6Yhl3yeXi9q No.12109077]

>>12109057
agree 100%

[Anonymous No.12109085]

>>12109045
;_;

[Anonymous No.12109086]

CGA dropped a ton today. Is this a buy now?

[Anonymous No.12109094]

>>12109034
>RADICAL-CENTRIST-ECO-FASCIST
absolutely based extremists must be destroyed, same with anyone who violates the sanctity of our god given planet and the beauty it contains.

[Anonymous No.12109105]

>>12109053
12/21

[Anonymous No.12109108]

>>12109030
I've stared at this graph for 15 minutes and I still dont understand it. each data point is a company right?

[Anonymous No.12109109]

>tfw crypto is dying and now all the mouth breathers are going to crash /smg/ by pumping random stocks instead

:') Keep this place pure

[Anonymous No.12109120]

>>12108202
>We want a people's vote!
Did the guy in this picture not know that's literally what the UK got the first time? I hope Brexit happens soon for you, fellow goy.
Also, how do you see Brexit affecting RBS?

[Anonymous No.12109127]

CGA 59 cents, it's possibly a buy. If trump gives some positive news on china this will fly back to 70 cents

[Anonymous No.12109155]

>>12109105
I’m right here with you bro, we’ll go to the poorhouse together.

[Anonymous No.12109160]

>>12108788
;)

[BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ No.12109167]

So the SPY is like unchanged today, I got a feeling we're in for some moon and then Uncle Powell is going to give us the only one more rate hike and the SPY will get a 4 hour erection and there will be much buying that no one will even be able to fuck the market the short's will all cover, and then on Friday, we'll start WW3.

[Anonymous No.12109172]

>>12109108
yes the little cute shapes are companies sorted by how much debt they own and PE
debt to PE used to be the golden metrics of value investing made popular by warren buffet

but these, alot with almost all value metrics* are worthless in this day and age of quant where much more suble things define price like "how many people buy X product while in their underwear on saturday morning vs clothed"

[LCIguy !!yh1GxBhYbmX No.12109179]

>>12109109
Tell them all to buy LCI, it will skyrocket soon.

[Anonymous No.12109183]

>>12109172
*except for EPS

[Anonymous No.12109198]

>>12109172
got it but what's throwing me off is the x and y axis. what does the (corr) mean? and how can debt/equity or close price be negative?

[MrSpoon !!6Yhl3yeXi9q No.12109200]

>>12109076
>your problem was trusting british politicians to work for the peoples interests
I trust no one, I'm just disappointed how retarded the general population is. I think I've snaped again I need to get back to humanity or I'll be forever banished to the shadow realm.

[Anonymous No.12109218]

>>12109167
its about to break up or down, its been odd past year

if crypto and FOREX in general doing bad couple months ago are indicator, it could be down, we will see by the December 31st selloff which way 2019 will be

[Anonymous No.12109226]

I’m in $SPY calls and $SPXS overnight

Will ride the winner until it peaks and then baghold the loser until it’s not. Feels good man.

[Anonymous No.12109242]

>>12109226
genius. you're like a hedge fund manager, except better.

[Anonymous No.12109251]

What should I look for when buying REITs? Payout ratio <100% and a current ratio of at least 1.0?

[Earnings Badger No.12109252]

>>12109226
you might actually be god.
turn my beer into wine

[Anonymous No.12109258]

>>12109055

One more. TerrAscend. I tried to trade this earlier this month and got stopped out at break even. Haven't touched since then. Red hell breakdown. No support until way down at $4.50. Near oversold. I'm looking for a trend change to flat along wherever the low happens to wind up, followed by a break upwards before i will consider entry.

[Anonymous No.12109259]

>>12109198
thats just their coefficient >_>

[Anonymous No.12109263]

>>12109226
holy fuck he broke the options code

[Anonymous No.12109269]

>>12109155
w-we're gonna make it h-haha

[Anonymous No.12109273]

>>12109251
Their book value and FFO.

[Anonymous No.12109282]

>>12109259
I'm still extremely confused, take a company at (x,y) = (-.25, .5) what does that mean?

[Anonymous No.12109307]

>>12109251
Well, if you're determined to go for a REIT, you should look at REIT preferred stock so you can secure a higher position in the capital structure. The yields are usually pretty comparable.

[Anonymous No.12109344]

>>12109282
it doesnt mean anything on its own
you compare them to two types of variables, the concept is called corrrelation, it works with standarrd deviation, its mathy stuff

here is a picture covarience, its like correlation but slightly difference but easier to understand
this chart is showing how two stock prices move relative to eachother

[Anonymous No.12109345]

>>12109086
>CGA

Do you mean China Green Agriculture? Muh TA says fuck no. That thing has been on a downwards trend for years. The only significant green on the chart is periodic pump and dumps that mostly sold off the same day or within a week. Firmly in descending channel with no bottom in sight.

[Anonymous No.12109355]

>>12109273
Is there a ratio between the two I should look for? Otherwise those are kind of arbitrary numbers. I thought ratios/percents are gospel because the size of an entity varies so much.

>>12109307
Thanks anon I'll look into that.

[Anonymous No.12109366]

What's a good company to start a Roth IRA with?

[Anonymous No.12109376]

>>12109344
I'm really just looking for an answer like "a company at (-.25,5) had a close price of .5(???) and a debt / equity of -.25(???)
but that cant be right because those numbers dont make sense

thanks for taking time to explain this rkg

[Anonymous No.12109382]

>>12109366
TVIX corp

[Anonymous No.12109392]

>>12109259
>>12109282
this is Pearson’s r correlation coefficient
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearson_correlation_coefficient

[Anonymous No.12109395]

>>12109366
index fund. or if you're asking about a broker, i like etrade for longer term stuff

[Anonymous No.12109412]

>>12109282
its analogous to a P-v graph and a T-s graph, but probabilities instead of gas laws

or like spacetime in a 4-momentum matrix

>>12109382
>smashing

[Anonymous No.12109411]

>>12109392
correlation of what with what?

[Anonymous No.12109413]

>>12109355
Also, why REITs specifically? If it's just for yield, there's other options out there that aren't pass-through earnings.

[Anonymous No.12109444]

>>12109376
im not very good at explaining but
T B H, yes in an academic world the graphic that was posted can be interpreted as meaningless.... because its exactly as you say the dots are underdefined because who knows if (PE + DEBT/EQUITY) actually means something after the dispersion

(was actually being little intellectually dishonest to comfy kek)

[Anonymous No.12109468]

>>12109411
correlation of horseshit with bullshit for people who want to appear smart by writing ueeless math equations

[Anonymous No.12109477]

>>12109413
Mainly the combination of dividend yield and long-term appreciation, even if it is slower than say tech stocks. I'm diving into IRM, O, NRZ, GECC, NLY, KBWY, BX, BLV, LAND, etc (I know not all these are REITs). Most of them have payout ratios well over 100%, which worries the fuck out of me. Trying to narrow them down in a quantifiable way using ratios/stats of the company. My autism and financial accounting ends up with making lots of spreadsheet comparisons between things I'm looking at buying.

[Anonymous No.12109478]

My grandpa just died so now I have 60k. I kinda want to invest it all in weed stocks because the market is gonna boom big in a few years once its fully legalized and the black market gets shut down.

I don't want to lose it all though. Feds wouldn't shut down a weed company on the stock market though before its legalized right?

[Anonymous No.12109483]

>>12109412
Based CEO Mike

[Anonymous No.12109508]

>>12109478
>My grandpa just died so now I have 60k. I kinda want to invest it all in weed stocks
this is probably the most zoomer post I've ever read. congratulations.

[Anonymous No.12109510]

>>12109478
Why not put 50% into MJ and 50% into VT? Something would have to go terribly fucking wrong for VT to hit 0. Hedge your high-risk dude weed ETF (it is high risk imho) with a low risk total world stock market etf.

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12109522]

>>12109478
90% QQQ
10% TLT
Otherwise you're a huge disappointment and your grandfather's life was a waste

[Anonymous No.12109539]

>>12109478
just sign up for betterment or something

[Anonymous No.12109557]

>>12109376
>>12109444
(she) gave you a bad probability distribution (close to uniform)

that graph
>>12109030
is the mathematical equivalent of a TV screen showing nothing but static (although a picture can almost be seen in a uniform amount at the positive end of the y-axis)

the major meaning that the graph indicates is that data is inconclusive, and a dependent variable has still not been clearly observed

[Anonymous No.12109563]

>>12109522
Sound advice, but I'd up the TLT to 20%. Why TLT over BLV, asking for a friend. Is it the corporate bonds that scare you from BLV?

[Anonymous No.12109587]

>>12109557
sure, but what is the meaning of the x and y axis?

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12109593]

>>12109563
Honestly SPTL is the ideal bond ETF, it moves extremely similar to TLT and yields more

[Anonymous No.12109604]

>>12109478
Never put all your eggs in one basket. At least branch out to other industries.

Stock-pick only with money you can stomach losing. Odds are, even if everything goes well you're not even going to beat the market average.

>Feds wouldn't shut down a weed company on the stock market though before its legalized right?
What are you looking for here? This is your decision, nobody here is going to take responsibility for your investments. And nobody's going to have an inside source in DOJ who can promise certain law enforcement actions for years to come. It's a risk. Take it or don't.

[Anonymous No.12109609]

>>12109593
Lower expense ratio too. Thanks famalam.

[Anonymous No.12109621]

>>12109478
>Feds wouldn't shut down a weed company on the stock market though before its legalized right?

Stocks are halted and maybe delisted for failure to post financials, failure to comply with exchange rules, and securities fraud. Weed startups, and startups in general, carry a moderate risk of that. You have to be careful about the companies you choose, weed or otherwise.

My suggestion is to go with the ETF, but hedge a decent percentage of your principal by putting it in something more stable like a Vanguard ETF or mutual fund or something. I don't recommend going all in on weed stocks unless you have trading experience. 50/50 weed ETF/broader market ETF will be safer and still net you plenty of gains if/when the dude weed rocket takes off again.

[Anonymous No.12109627]

>>12108445
Kek. Good work

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12109652]

>>12109609
If you want to diversify bonds at some point also look at FALN or PZA

[Anonymous No.12109656]

>>12109621

Also, if the federal question was about law enforcement crackdowns on state legal weed outfits, the answer depends on how careful the company is. They absolutely will throw the hammer down if your dude weed company is caught doing something like shipping their weed out of state. If they're keeping their nose clean and following state law to the letter, the risk is quite low in current legal climate.

[Anonymous No.12109661]

Good news today:
First - KY Supreme court slammed Gov's pension bill so all my benefits are safe/stay the same as on the date I was hired. My sick time is still in play now as a "time reducer"

Second - GE showed signs of life. They are gonna spin off the Digital unit into it's own company. IOT of things. GE Shareholders will get shares in this new company. Expected to happen sometime in 2019. The GE Transportation spinoff/merger with Wabtech is expected to close first part of 2019 as well. GE Shareholders will gain shares in that venture to.

[Anonymous No.12109671]

>>12109477
I wouldn't count too much on appreciation, to be honest. REITs are attractive for their yield, but when something happens on a macro level that could disrupt their income or make them less attractive, they're extremely volatile.

>Most of them have payout ratios well over 100%
Ah, well payout ratios are usually calculated off of income which isn't very appropriate for REITs. REIT earnings are usually weighed down by non-cash expenses, so you'll want to look at operating cashflow instead.

[Anonymous No.12109672]

>>12109587
they are variables that help to show a projection of a 4D "surface" (3D solid that changes with time(the fourth dimension) is a nice way to imagine it)

[Anonymous No.12109676]

Anyone have thoughts on Jupai Holdings (JP)? They're Vanguard for China. Stock is at an all-time low right now, considering buying in since the p/e ratio is 3 and the dividend looks comfy.

[Anonymous No.12109680]

>>12108065
You can enter how much percent you want in each from what i can see

[Anonymous No.12109691]

>>12109661
>GE Shareholders will get shares in this new company
comfy
>GE Shareholders will gain shares in Wabtech too
comfier and comfier based GE it was worth losing all my money bagholding their garbage stock for these meme shares

[Anonymous No.12109719]

>>12109672
oh you were serious with this post >>12109412 I thought you were meming can you go into a little more detail?

[Anonymous No.12109730]

We crash tomorrow?

[Anonymous No.12109732]

>>12109672
oh my god

[Anonymous No.12109753]

rip my aphria calls

[Anonymous No.12109761]

>>12109719
depends, do you understand linear algebra, and the matrix operation that makes projections?

>>12109732
shush inverse-indicatorchan

[Anonymous No.12109793]

paging sundown of saturn
are spirit boxes legitimate?

[Anonymous No.12109806]

>>12109761
yep

[Anonymous No.12109809]

As said wednesday close looken neutral market, so thursday close 0.02%sp and dow 0.29%, currently futures 0.02% :p

[Anonymous No.12109816]

>>12109691
Well the joke may be on Wabtech, to buy shares of them you'd be paying around 80 - 90 per. Thanks to GE, your gonna be getting them for peanuts. (Dunno what the ratio will be yet but still)

[Anonymous No.12109843]

>>12109816
I hope it will be a straight 1:1 so then my 10 GE shares will get me 10 Wabtech shares. With each at the say $80 mark that would give me an $800 profit right from the get go.

[Anonymous No.12109845]

>>12109806
then interpolate from the units on that x & y axis

[Anonymous No.12109864]

>>12109730

Nah. Maybe another inside candle. Maybe go test S&P 2620 support again. Or maybe mild green. Whatever it is, I expect it to be limp wristed with some signs of life during power hour if mild green is the story of the day.

[Anonymous No.12109886]

>>12109845
you lost me there are several x and y axis posted in this thread this is a meme isnt it

[Anonymous No.12109959]

>>12107970
Well said but what the fuck are you doing to change it

[Anonymous No.12109973]

>>12107970
May is a woman.

You bongs are going to learn.

Women belong in the kitchen. Pregnant and barefooted.

[Anonymous No.12109976]

Recent reports from CTL make it clear that they have enough revenue coming in to pay everything, pay down the debt yet also keep that fat div intact. So my cash cow is safe for a long time still.

2019 looks like it will be a Disney breakout year with the new Disney Streaming Service and Fox Merger closing. Agreement is strong that the stock will be flying higher as the year moves along. So perhaps it is wise to bag some dis during any dips between now and Jan 1. You get a nice fat 0.88 div also.

[Anonymous No.12110022]

>>12109793
the more patrician thing is trapping elementals

[Anonymous No.12110048]

>>12109886
this stuff is unironically how people make real money in the market
litterally the first step of almost any hedgie is to uncorrolate their fund from the market

this is basic stuff and not that hard for understanding

[Anonymous No.12110053]

>>12109864

It seems to me, based on the medium term outlook of S&P, that the story lately has been feeling out a support range. It keeps dipping wicks downwards and popping back up shortly thereafter. Uncertain, both from the bull and bear sides of the situation. Profit grabbing is going on immediately for any upward spike. Dip buying immediately in response to downward pressure.

I remain overall bull from TA perspective because of the constant long lower wicks on these weekly candles. The inverse of that kind of thing, long upper wicks around the ATH, is a strong sell signal typically as the highs aren't holding for shit. In this situation, lows aren't holding but market confidence has not returned just yet.

Bottom yellow line on this chart is the long long trend. It hasn't been touched since 2016. If full on proper bear market happens, that is the key support I will be looking to.

[Anonymous No.12110083]

>>12109671
I tried to do my DD on REITs and every source I use and my googlefu tell me that over 100% payout ratio for an REIT is a red flag. I thought that just meant that their yield is greater than their NI, which the non-cash expenses aside still impact NI. If the payout is over 100% that means they are sustaining a total dividend(yield) payout over their NI by either invading capital or taking on debt, which won't work in the long-term.

Is my thinking fucked here? I feel like I am missing something. NRZ has a payout ratio of 53% for example, which is a great indicator to me. An 11% yield with that ratio indicates to me that REIT is growing and well managed. In contrast some entity like IRM in contrast has a payout ratio at almost 300% and it doesn't look like it is going down any time soon. Huge red flag for me.

[Anonymous No.12110138]

>>12109652
Oh god FALN is spicy as fuck hahaha I love it

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12110225]

>mfw Ford goes below 8
>mfw Ford goes below 7

[Anonymous No.12110236]

>>12109886
sure

the graph was labeled pretty clearly

[Anonymous No.12110258]

>>12110083
NRZ is also trading under book right now.

[Anonymous No.12110284]

>>12110053
short interest is deff winning out right now, with all big shorts (orange lines) have been successful
there is a major downward channel that the market is reluctant to rejoin

[Anonymous No.12110304]

>>12110083

>every source I use and my googlefu tell me that over 100% payout ratio for an REIT is a red flag
I'm not sure what sources you're using but it's pretty common for REITs to have dividends greater than their net income (as calculated on the income statement).

>I thought that just meant that their yield is greater than their NI, which the non-cash expenses aside still impact NI
I think you're underestimating the impact of non-cash expenses on net income. And for clarity, a "non-cash expense" means exactly that--it's an expense that's recorded on the income statement but nothing is actually paid.

>If the payout is over 100% that means they are sustaining a total dividend(yield) payout over their NI by either invading capital or taking on debt, which won't work in the long-term.
Well if you're afraid of debt, REITs definitely aren't for you. REITs basically borrow a bunch of money to acquire assets that are necessary to generate cashflow (where the debt expense is also recorded). Those assets also depreciate and the loans amortize, which are recorded as expenses on the income statement.

>I feel like I am missing something.
I think you probably rely too much on income statements to judge things, but it gives you a distorted view on what's actually going on with a company. Cashflow is what actually records changes in cash/cash generation from being in business.

[Anonymous No.12110355]

is anyone doing the robinhood 3% thing

[Anonymous No.12110459]

>>12110284
we have large specs shorting midcap small cap and nasdaq
Theyll pull after Powell bull speech

[Anonymous No.12110462]

>>12110355
I signed up. #25kish in line. Got the Murrica Card

[Anonymous No.12110464]

>>12109793
No idea Nikki. Gut says no but I’m wrong a lot. I don’t do ghoasts, I only know about western high ritual magick, spectacle sorcery, tarot ontology, and chaos magic. Also a lil bit (a fucking lot) about conspiwacy theowies.

[Anonymous No.12110503]

>>12110355
I’m like 60k

[Anonymous No.12110508]

>>12110462
>>12110503
wait so when does it actually start

[Anonymous No.12110517]

>>12110464
You mean Enochian?

[Anonymous No.12110525]

9pm EST China numbers.

[Anonymous No.12110526]

>>12110508
Now I think. It's just taking time to process everyone into the system.

[Anonymous No.12110529]

>>12110508
Not sure, but why not? Supposed to be 3% paid daily right?

[Anonymous No.12110534]

>>12110258
That's why I'm trying to buy every bit I can while I can.

>>12110304
>I'm not sure what sources you're using but it's pretty common for REITs to have dividends greater than their net income (as calculated on the income statement).
On man most of the ones I have been looking at are around 50-80%, maybe it was just chance. I have been just reading investopedia, seeking alpha, the motley fool, shit like that (pls no bully).

>I think you're underestimating the impact of non-cash expenses on net income. And for clarity, a "non-cash expense" means exactly that--it's an expense that's recorded on the income statement but nothing is actually paid.
>I think you probably rely too much on income statements to judge things, but it gives you a distorted view on what's actually going on with a company. Cashflow is what actually records changes in cash/cash generation from being in business.
Probably this. I am a financial accountant for a manufacturer so the setup of an REIT is unfamiliar to me. I'm not afraid of debt, I just am trying to do an analysis on different REITs and don't know where to start. The payout ratio and current ratio were the two that seemed to stand out to me.

[Anonymous No.12110544]

>>12110525
What kind of numbers?

[Anonymous No.12110546]

>>12110529
>3% paid daily
no

[Anonymous No.12110563]

>>12110304
>>12110534
Between you and the other guy it seems like I should be looking at AFFO payout ratio instead of just plain payout ratio then?

[Anonymous No.12110581]

>>12110517
Don’t understand enochian fully, I don’t speak Hebrew kek. I should learn. I’ve read a couple books on it and have a general understanding of the purpose and meaning of the tables, couldn’t tell you the meaning of basically any correspondences off the top of my head. I haven’t memorized the golden dawn corespondances either, I’m incompetent. I don’t really like the idea of angel magick that much, and I have a personal distaste for Dee due to aforementioned conspiracy theories. I haven’t read Jason Luov’s book though, apparently that’s a banger

[Anonymous No.12110583]

>>12110544

[Anonymous No.12110591]

>>12110284
>>12110459
>we have large specs shorting midcap small cap and nasdaq

Yeah that sounds about right.

>Theyll pull after Powell bull speech

I hate that some of this hinges directly on him.

[Anonymous No.12110617]

>>12110529
>Supposed to be 3% paid daily right?

lol

[Anonymous No.12110637]

>>12110583
Fuck, day of reckoning for my SPY options.

[Anonymous No.12110641]

>>12107885
>Stock Market General
>general
It should be fucking crypto general. The fact that buttcoin has taken over this board is embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.12110657]

why does god hate me ;_;

[Anonymous No.12110664]

>>12110583
wtf is happening here

[MrSpoon !!6Yhl3yeXi9q No.12110672]

>>12110641
wasn't this board specificaly set up to get crypto chat off /g/? or have I fallen for one of the famous 4channel memes

[Anonymous No.12110683]

>>12110637
There's a lot of euro data out overnight and retail sales in the morning, so I don't think these numbers will really drive the market tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.12110688]

>>12110657
f.l.i.p.e.n.i.n.g
9 cents to go

[Anonymous No.12110706]

>>12110683
Euro data matters for sure, but it's seeming like China news holds more weight right now.

[Anonymous No.12110720]

>>12110672
yes
the stock market general was made to be a beacon of light in the barren containment board

[Anonymous No.12110724]

>>12110657
(im just jk god thank you for letting me still be alive right now)

[Anonymous No.12110725]

>>12110672
partially but for a very long time /biz/ mostly was about starting businesses, personal finance, taxes, etc etc etc
it wanst until 2016 that the crypto retards from reddit came

[Anonymous No.12110728]

>>12110706
Bad data may actually be better (short term) as it would give hope for a quicker trade resolution.

[Anonymous No.12110750]

>>12110724
>too late
blasphemer

>>12110725
it was made to send crypto off of /g/, then actual business and personal finance began to flood the board instead of crypto

then 2016-2017 happened, and crypto once again began to rule the /biz/

[Anonymous No.12110757]

>>12110728
It could either be that, or it's seen as another sign of global economic stagnation. I'll be drinking myself into a numb stupor until we find out.

[MrSpoon !!6Yhl3yeXi9q No.12110758]

>>12110720
people like your photo should be killed

[Anonymous No.12110764]

>>12110546
Leave my delusion alone.
>>12110581
So you read basics like Garden of Pomegranates, QBL, Sefer Yetzirah?

[Anonymous No.12110800]

>>12110534
>>12110563
I've got to go, but what I'll suggest is to look at the REIT's operating cashflow, divide that figure by the number of shares outstanding, then compare that to the trailing dividend. I think you'll start to see a regular pattern with the results.

And for a way to visualize REITs, imagine you want to buy and rent out a house for money. You'd most likely get a mortgage on a property which you'll pay some amount for, say, $1,000/mo, then you rent it out for, say, $1,500/mo. You may become hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt from the mortgage in the process, but you can't earn the $500/mo. profit without the home. That's essentially what REITs do and you'll find that, in most cases, their debt and assets go up/down in tandem (but not necessarily the same amounts).

[Anonymous No.12110863]

>>12110800
Thanks for your time anon. I'm doing all of that. It helps a lot.

[Anonymous No.12110883]

>>12110863
>>12110800
*I'm going to do all of that

[Anonymous No.12110891]

jesse chris RIP futures holy cow

>>12110688
this literally cant be happening @_@

>>12110750
nuuu god pls nuuu it was a moment of despair I didnt mean to blasphemy

[Anonymous No.12110922]

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/yulong-acquires-michelangelo-crucifixion-masterpiece-120000948.html

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/yulong-eco-materials-limited-announces-223145285.html

lmao

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12110972]

>>12110724
I always pray for your health!
Even though you deleted me on discord, you stupid >_<

[Anonymous No.12111083]

>>12110972
I had for delete that whole computer because discord anon started stalking me + I joined alot of really poop discords that all seemed to die out

kek
October REALLY REALLY rekt so many people just getting into stocks

[Dobber !!qEeBALi+hGB No.12111099]

I hate wageslaving during market hours. Fuck this gay ass earth. At least robinhood will get me 3% now. Who here /onlinebankingonly/ now?

[MrSpoon !!6Yhl3yeXi9q No.12111228]

there's a spider on my heart and I can't get rid of it

[Anonymous No.12111308]

Futures crashing. This is the end of biggest bubble ever. Why don't you people sell. You will lose everything...

[Anonymous No.12111313]

Settle down futures what the hell. I guess it's back to support level tomorrow.

>>12111308
>This is the end of biggest bubble ever

Incorrect.

[Anonymous No.12111347]

[Anonymous No.12111349]

What does the next recession look like and when will it hit?

Do you favor the libertarian apocalypse or something more on the scale of the dotcom bust?

With this in mind, what do you think is the proper attitude towards crypto?

[Anonymous No.12111362]

>>12111313
Bank of the rising sun will save us

[Anonymous No.12111366]

>>12111349
Late 2019 would be perfect

[Anonymous No.12111383]

>>12111308
Beartrap

[Anonymous No.12111387]

>>12111349
>What does the next recession look like and when will it hit?
Look to your left
Now look to your right

That is what a recession looks like~

[Anonymous No.12111433]

>>12111362
They can’t cover their buying and the ECB’s.

[Anonymous No.12111493]

Groovy evening musics!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ferZnZ0_rSM

[Anonymous No.12111566]

[Anonymous No.12111587]

Uh-oh!
>>12111566
Beat me to it.

[Anonymous No.12111601]

time to ignore the market and news until the fed meeting next wednesday so I don't hurt myself

[Anonymous No.12111602]

>>12111587
I assume the futures dump was people in the know offloading. Time to see how it plays through the night.

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.12111627]

>>12111349
Massive failure among small/community banks, as well as maybe one or two large ones. This will lead to massive consolidation among the banking industry barring gov intervention. The FDIC's deposit insurance fund will be blown out for the first time, causing them to go to the Treasury to maintain the govt guarantee.

Student loan bubble will pop, and since the gov owns most of this debt it will mean a sudden drop off in gov revenues when the recession begins. If republicans have the white house, this will mean little to no stimulus, plus attempts to squeeze as much out of defaulters as possible to pay for other initiatives. If there is a muted gov stimulus response, which is quite plausible given the lack of traditional monetary and fiscal policy tools to currently do this, we can expect this recession to be quite a bit longer and more severe. The "libertarian apocalypse" is most likely to be Trump trying to print money or renegotiate US debt since he's too pussy to raise taxes to pay for shit.

Auto industry and several FAANGs (Facebook, Apple and Amazon) will be hit especially hard and many large companies will fail.

In terms of other metrics it will likely be quite similar to 2008 in terms of unemployment, maybe more muted officially as people start doing shit like uber once they loose their job.

It'll most likely be sometime in 2019, my money's on some time in the middle of the year, fall at the latest.

Crypto probably won't do well considering it's volatility makes it a risky asset class, and most money will be trying to get into safer shit.

[Anonymous No.12111783]

Anyone else had over 10 puts on QQQ or SPY?

[Anonymous No.12111804]

>>12111783
I wouldn't celebrate too early, anything can shake out by market open.

[Anonymous No.12111811]

>>12111627
Student loans isn't a bubble that can pop. Can't be shed by bankruptcy. It can be a drain on society and will be, but no pop.

[Anonymous No.12111832]

>>12111804
I plan on cashing out on open and getting back in when I feel safe again. How are your positions fren?

[Anonymous No.12111840]

>>12110972
just email directly you n00b

[e-mail]

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.12111850]

>>12111811
it will pop in the sense that a large amount of people will suddenly default.

[Anonymous No.12111883]

>>12111832
Well in the green if tonight's move holds.

[Anonymous No.12111896]

>>12111883
I posted this in the other thread and someone made fun of me lol

[Anonymous No.12111926]

>>12111896
The constant talk/hope of an enormous bullish reversal was the surest sign things are getting worse.

[Anonymous No.12112013]

>>12111811

Bankruptcy exception doesn't help if people just default it.

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12112020]

>>12111840
I don't know what this email is and I'm not sending anything to it

[Anonymous No.12112038]

>>12112020
your loss, since someone else in the thread does knows exactly whose it is

;)

[Anonymous No.12112039]

>>12111850
>>12112013
Unless they plan on suiciding it will be taken out of any job via garnishment or their social security. You're not going to get a sudden drop off.

[Anonymous No.12112068]

>>12112039
>it will be taken out of any job via garnishment or their social security

Is this accurate for US? Canada doesn't work that way. Here the debt gets passed off to collection agency and you deal with them. No garnishee, no deductions from Canadian equivalent of SS.

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.12112080]

>>12112039
But that's exactly the point anon, in a recession you suddenly get a lot of unemployment, and especially among the youth. A not insignificant amount of people with huge student loans won't have any jobs at all.

[Anonymous No.12112082]

>>12112068
Yes, I believe up to 15% of your check will be garnished for a federal loan. And so will SS.

[(Comfy) !!7iCGIecbnK/ No.12112091]

>>12112038
That makes me very uncomfortable

[Anonymous No.12112102]

>>12112080
But that will be a gradual drain on society. Not a swelling pop. There is no burst. Even in a recession it's just unemployment. If they ever rejoin the workforce then debt is being paid. That is not the same as bankruptcy. We won't have insane amounts checking out of society. Just insane amounts signing into debt slavery.

[Anonymous No.12112113]

>>12112091
that is why you are weak

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.12112138]

>>12112102
The pop, as I mentioned, is the effect on government revenue just as they have to be implementing some kind of stimulus. Of course, revenues will be down more generally, but this is a couple 100 billion in lost payments we're talking about, a significant percentage added onto the deficit. There would be political ramifications for Republicans.

[Anonymous No.12112233]

>>12111926
Yeah there are normal drops, and then there are bigger drops when people get too hopeful and realize they were wrong.

[Anonymous No.12112249]

>>12112020
>>12112038
>>12112091
I can haz free $25k too?

[Anonymous No.12112257]

Just put 4% of my account into SSo. FUCK This is it isn't it? 2000, 08, and now 18. I'm going to lose all of it, but I'm never going to sell. I just won't buy more until the bottom. Rate my strategy.

[Anonymous No.12112264]

>>12112138
All I'm disagreeing with is that it's a pop. Just because a lot default at once means little when they are still on the hook.

And it will be bad news for both repubs and Democrats. They both let government loans create a horrible situation with debt and colleges got fat and stupid off of it. The government has no business giving out loans like this.

[Anonymous No.12112295]

>>12112257
I think youll be very satisfied with your purchase when the SPY rallys to 300 by q2

[Anonymous No.12112307]

>>12112295
Source? Based on what?

[Anonymous No.12112328]

>>12112307
Thats none of your concern

[Anonymous No.12112418]

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NEW

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