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12063759 No.12063759 [Reply] [Original]

How sustainable is this?

>> No.12063773

Not at all

>> No.12063778

>>12063759
Completely...as long as the US stays the world reserve currency...the spike happened b/c Nixon didn't want to give gold for the dollar. The US was funding the Vietnam war...

>> No.12063790

It's fine, goy. Nothing to worry about. Now get back to work.

>> No.12063791

Just print 20 something trillion and pay it off

>> No.12063801
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>>12063759
perfectly sustainable as long as you have enough guns to point at everybody you are "borrowing" money from

>> No.12063827

>>12063759
Eventually the gig is up, anyone can tell you that but this can go on for a while longer.

>> No.12064047
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>>12063801
keywords: as long as

empires come and go, and USD expiration date is soon given past precedents

China and Bitcoin will dominate in 2030

>> No.12064088

>>12064047
yep.

but the chinks arent really that smart

>> No.12064089

>>12063778
Why do you think US started second war in Iraq, anon? Not at all because they wanted to start selling oil in EUR?

>> No.12064102

>>12064088
Oh but they are. Amerifats dominating has been nothing but a mirage. Asia has been the leader historically.

>> No.12064230

Proportional to gdp of all first world countries so no problem. The game is all the same fren.

>> No.12064279

>>12063759
Not very

>> No.12064302

>>12063791
This.

>> No.12064323

>>12063801
lol have you ever considered that nobody wants Russian bases in their country?

>> No.12064361

>>12064302
>>12063791
Can’t tell if sarcasm or not

>> No.12064435

>>12064323
>he believes that kazahkstan, baltics etc wants mut bases in their country

irl nobody cares. Been to Latvia once and locals told how mighty NATO soldiers were severely injured by some local gangs kek

>> No.12064443

100% sustainable because debt is good. Dumb poor people don't realise this.

If someone in 1 billion dollars of debt they rich as fuck. I dare you to try. You can't. But rich people can.
You can only afford like 100 dollars.

As long as debt is invested into shit that pays more than the interest costs, its good debt. That's why interest rates and thus yeilds are so low coz everyone on this borrowing scene getting free money and inflating stock market with credit. It won't pop, interest will just rise slowly until its not as profitable anymore

>> No.12064675

>>12064102
McWhen??

>> No.12064902
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>>12064443

>> No.12064914
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>>12063759
>How sustainable is this
We gonna work it out

>> No.12064942

>>12064902
Not an argument

>> No.12064951
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>>12064443
Unironically this

>> No.12064963

what do then?
stocks plummetting
crypto plummetting
fiat abot to plummet
property bubble about to pop (again)

Justing for everyone?

>> No.12064964

>>12064942
pretty good argument akshually

>> No.12064971

>>12064963
unironically shiny rocks

They tend to do well when everything else is burning down

>> No.12065014

>>12064443
There are a few things youre not considering here. A good model is your house. as long as the value rises, right? You being mortgaged to 60% of your gross income is fine if so. but the bigger the house, the thinner the margin for servicing the mortgage. and if just one little cog pops; you are getting bummed under a bridge by the other tramps.

the difference is no one really wants You to fail. America, on the other hand.....

>> No.12065351

>>12064443
this is what keynesians actually believe

>> No.12065380

>>12063759
Blame reaganomics

>> No.12065562

>>12063759
No reason to worry until we hit closer to 100 trillion in debt.

>> No.12065814

>>12064443
>it will just raise until it's not profitable
so it will raise until you come crashing down

>> No.12065824

>>12063759
Can you plot debt per capita adjusted for inflation now?

>> No.12065835

>>12064102
>Deluded chinks

>> No.12065838

>>12065351
>if only we had more useless shiny rocks we would be richer
this is what austrian monkeys actually believe

>> No.12066030

>>12064443
>As long as debt is invested into shit that pays more than the interest costs, its good debt
Yes, but no.
European countries had important struggles with debt levels. New debt is issued periodically to pay for previous debt. During expansive phases of Economic cycle, governments should seriously reduce public debt and reduce public spending to curb inflation.
In the next crisis, public debt will be an important problem.

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>>12064942
>Not an argument

>> No.12066058

The US government will default on it's debt within the next 20 years. This will trigger the biggest and final major recession. This is also the reason why buying treasuries or bonds is moronic. The US government literally CAN'T pay you back.

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>>12064088
>White people avg IQ: 98
>Northern Asian (Japan/Korea/China) avg IQ: 108
>Ashkenazi Jews: 115

There is a reason the chinks and the jews hate each other, the chinks far higher population means that while the jews have proportionately higher numbers of high IQ's the chinks have more aggregate high IQ'S.

>> No.12066568

>>12063759
It's called compounding, you'll learn about it in high school

>> No.12066622

>>12065838
But that's unironically true, whereas debt being good is not.

>> No.12066638

>>12066622
if you waste debt on dumb niggers like you then yes its bad, if you invest it in something useful and have profit its good

>> No.12066676

>>12066058
this will be glorious

>> No.12066710

>>12066058
>Implying they wont print more usd

>> No.12066726

>>12066710
t. child

>> No.12066734

the obama years :facepalm:

>> No.12067067

>>12064443
nice explanation wigger
tyrone is waiting, he promised he will have rap battle with you if you prep him good

>> No.12067069

>>12066734
Thanks obama for the decades of shit policies before him and before trump that are finally catching up.

>> No.12067087

>>12064942
Not an argument

>> No.12067091

>>12066726
the only Children here are doomsday faggots like you

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>>12063759
How sustainable is this?

>> No.12067124

>>12063759
It's as sustainable as our ability to service its ever-expanding interest.

Once we can no longer service the interest...which I suspect will happen in the next 20 to 30 years, the currency will collapse.

>> No.12067478

>>12067091
>empires dont come and go
t. manchildren

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>>12067091
>muh 1000 years reich

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>>12063791
We won't ever have to repay this bullshit to the corrupt banking cartels. Trump will nullify any and all debt these worldwide cult member pedovores try to extort from our country. Check out the executive orders.

>> No.12068210

>>12068131
red and basedpilled

>> No.12068681

>>12068131
Trump is a Zionist puppet you single digit IQ mong.

>> No.12069627

>>12064443
What fucking year is it, 2007?

>> No.12069754

>>12064443
Actually understands what’s going but this still unsustainable

>> No.12070038

The huge spike in the 2000s was due to the Iraq war. Huge clusterfuck that really put us off the rails. But the debt isn't as big a worry as the deficit. If we can get the deficit under control then we should be able to sustain ourselves.

>> No.12070051

>>12070038
deficit was getting close to 0% until blumfo decided to cut revenue and increase spending

>> No.12070063

>>12063759
Debt you owe to yourself or entities that rely upon you for survival isnt real debt.

>> No.12070116

It's sustainable as long as Trump is in office. He is proficient wielding debt as a weapon. He's been bankrupted with billions in debts in past, and he approaches debtors with "Oh, you want to be paid back? You have to make X deal with me or I can't ever pay you." In 2024, the president who isn't experienced in doing as such is going to have a massive problem.

>> No.12070152

>>12066030
>In the next crisis, public debt will be an important problem.
This

>> No.12071066

Money are just pixels

>> No.12071270

>>12067124
There will be a world war before that happens

>> No.12071309

>>12064443
>Paying half a trillion a year in interest is good

Jesus we are fucked with people like this amongst us.

>> No.12071316

>>12064047
>China and Bitcoin will dominate in 2030
In 2030 Bitcoin will be worthless and the Chinese economy will have imploded.

>> No.12071341

>>12071316
Right why will China implode smarty?

>> No.12071350

>>12071341

It's in a bubble along with the U.S?

>> No.12071351

>>12064089
How is that not us starting it?

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>>12063759
Since the US can't legally default on it's debt according to the constitution and most of the debt is owed to us banks, not separate countries. Are bank stocks a good investment for this?

>> No.12071778

>>12063759
Completely, because raw debt levels don't matter. Only debt as a percentage of GDP matters.

The man who owes $10 and earns $1 is in much more trouble than the man who owes $10 billion and earns $100 billion

>> No.12071870

>>12063759

>> No.12071889

>>12064443
Not entirely wrong but I disagree with the interpretation of the present situation
As it stands it seems that private sector debt is excessive since companies are doing stupid shit like borrowing money to buy their own shares, which isn't sustainable. That's going to pop, and it should pop.

>>12071309
Expenditure is only relevant with reference to revenue.

>> No.12072383

>>12063759
It's going to the moon

>> No.12072460

Tax parasites talking about debt LMAO.

Get back to me when you are a net tax payer instead of a taker you fucking slime.

>> No.12072461

>>12064443
Youre right but youre forgetting that its common policy to roll over debt indefinetly, which means that if interest rates rise substantially, even to 5-6% everyone is fucked beyond belief.

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>>12063759
It's backed by pic related so it's sustainable for a while. Probably not forever though.

>> No.12073449

>>12063778
Is there any possible projections if the US didn't switch off the gold standard.

>>12063791
Oh jesus....

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very

>> No.12073746

>>12068131
You realise most of these is owed to yourselves right?

>> No.12073751

>>12064443
>As long as debt is invested into shit that pays more than the interest costs, its good debt.
So, US government debt isn't good debt. Alright, thanks.

>> No.12073755

>>12071270
>le angry ameriturd angry at its own incompetence creates world war 3
imagine