/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.11993752]

>"S-so what do you do for work?"
>"I'm a consultant"
What the fuck does this even mean?

[Anonymous No.11993762]

>>11993752
You advice companies about a specific area

[Anonymous No.11993768]

What i never got is how people got consultant positions right out of college. As if anyone would consult a First year out of college faggot for anything

[Anonymous No.11993771]

>>11993752
People consult you

[Anonymous No.11993794]

it doesn't mean much unless there is a name attached to it. a lot of consultants are just unemployed boomer hustlers, but working at a big name consulting firm out of college seems to be reserved for the top tier students

[Anonymous No.11993800]

>>11993752
If you have education in a usefull field, there is demand for this knowledge.

For example, as a tax accountant, you could charge good money for Tax consulting ( corporate or private clients)

[Anonymous No.11993802]

>>11993752
Maybe he is
>Blockchain asset management consultant

[Anonymous No.11993821]

>>11993768
Kek consultant straight from college here. They gave me some 50k worth of training before I started though . That's mainly the reason why people would hire me (so their intern staff didn't need the training).

[Anonymous No.11994030]

>>11993768

it's a meme job. you're basically a know it all of nothing and it's normies throwing buzzwords at each other and women socializing over excel while engineer/comsci do the work

[Anonymous No.11994091]

I'm a copywriter by trade but also a marketing consultant because people know fuck all about the most important part of running a business - making money.

[Anonymous No.11994101]

>>11993752
You meet with people to have them tell you their problems in business. Then you find out what the real problem actually is and tell them how to overcome it.

[Anonymous No.11994137]

>>11994091
how do I do that?

[Anonymous No.11994168]

>>11993768
>ok so what you're going to want to do is focus on your deliverables and deliver a clear, customer psychology based message
>we really want to create a buzz here, so lets do something new and fresh that will go viral. can we get a graphic designer from fiverr to work on this?
>my cousin is really good at graphic design, she'll design a really good logo for us
>wait, you want me to actually give you advice on how to RUN the business?

consultation is basically just larping as an entrepanuer with extra steps.

[Anonymous No.11994191]

>>11994137
If you're serious, read the classic marketing books. The ones they don't teach in colleges when you pay 30k for an "advertising" degree.

Scientific Advertising by Claude Hopkins
How to Write a Good Advertisement by Victor Schuab
Tested Advertising Methods by John Caples
Kick-Ass Copywriting Secrets of a Marketing Rebel by John Carlton
Maximum Money in Minimum Time by Gary Halbert

Basically, people are completely wrong about how to run a business, how to track customers, how to create advertising that you can measure down to the penny how much money it brought in (as opposed to million-dollar Superbowl ads for Geico and M&Ms that can't be proven to generate even a single new sale - we call those scams in my line of work).
I'm not memeing even a little when I say reading this post should have changed your life forever. You're looking for buckets, fuck, KINGDOMS of wealth? A skillset that will be with you for your entire life that can transform the world? You want job security, in the most powerful sense of the word? Don't pass this by.

[Anonymous No.11994202]

>>11994168
This all sounds like a really shitty consultant. Sorry your experience with one scamster has soured you on the entire profession. You can't really believe that there's NOBODY on the planet who could come in and transform your marketing efforts, can you? That NOBODY has this stuff figured out? I suppose all the millionaires on the planet just got lucky, huh?

[Anonymous No.11994219]

IT consultant at Monsanto here, straight outta college

[Anonymous No.11994221]

>>11993752
Consultant = People pay me to advise them on how to solve their IT problems.
Then they pay me again because they didn't listen to me the first time.

[Anonymous No.11994239]

>>11994168
Fuckin hell....
I work in marketing and this is literally how everyone talks at my work.
I can almost play bingo with the buzzwords

[Anonymous No.11994259]

>>11994202
why the nonsequiturs? marketing is just scamming normies, which is indeed what most entrepreneurship is about

[Anonymous No.11994261]

>>11994191
Hey fren I appreciate this info. Will definately check those books out

But as far as getting a job, where do I start? I have good writing skills an an economics bachelors degree. Did you start out at a company or did you freelance?

[Anonymous No.11994267]

>>11994137
He’s a plebbit tier copywriter on upwork. Lmao “consultant” this is the OPs whole point. The absolute state of biz now that crypto is dead.

[Anonymous No.11994318]

>>11994261
You can do either, but I'll warn you that having writing experience can actually be a detriment to getting started in writing ads. It's easier to turn an illiterate master salesman into a copywriter than it is to teach an English major how to sell.

Read those books, they pave the way for you. Don't worry about getting a job yet, you're going to be absolute shit at first and nobody with half a brain will pay you for the ads you write in the beginning.

[Anonymous No.11994343]

>>11994318
>Don't worry about getting a job yet
but im struggling

>nobody with half a brain will pay you for the ads you write in the beginning.
so how do I get experience if no one will hire me?

[Anonymous No.11994347]

>>11994267
>>11994259
I guess I could flame you guys but honestly? I'm glad you're misinformed. Shitty attitudes and misinformation, and then trying to mislead others. How much did you make last year? I'd love to show you my bank statements; you'd change your tune so fucking fast your head would spin. You'd be begging me for more info, even though I already posted more than enough in the thread.
Don't worry, though boys. Maybe LINK will be 5k EOY and your life will be saved.

[Anonymous No.11994360]

why the FUCK does my ID keep changing

[Anonymous No.11994361]

>>11994343
>hey guys I want to be an electrician
>how do I convince people to pay me for it?
>what?? I have to train and get good at it??? fuck that, what coin is mooning next?

[Anonymous No.11994365]

>>11994347
I made 6m on crypto started an online biz and now i make 500-1k a day. I work 7 days a week though. Keep coping you upwork copywriter faggot. Lmao selling your time for money.....

If link goes to 5k which it won’t i would unirnically have like 100m.

c h e c k e d

[Anonymous No.11994375]

>>11994365
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCOWHKlrAT4

[Anonymous No.11994379]

>>11994361
How will I get hired even if I read all the books? Dont I need some kind of portfolio?

>>11994365
when did you buy in?

[Anonymous No.11994387]

>>11994347
>if i make a lot of money through scamming, my scam is not a scam
ok kid

[Anonymous No.11994389]

>>11994379
ETH at $10 keep wasting ur time faggots selling time for money a real biz makes u money when u sleep that’s sales, put in the work though.

lmao upwork copywriter

[Anonymous No.11994395]

>>11994347
I make 140k working 30 hours a week. You dont impress me.

[Anonymous No.11994414]

>>11994389
what do you sell online?

[Anonymous No.11994429]

>>11994191
"Marketing rebel"

Oh wow you faggots are serious about This, aren't you? Fucking lol.

[Anonymous No.11994435]

Nothing wrong with consulting, economic advisors make $500 an hour

[Anonymous No.11994487]

>>11994375
>>11994375
wat so hard to believe people made money in crypto? it went up 100x last year, and once u have money u can slave for uself 16 hours a day until i make $1k a day

[Anonymous No.11994498]

>OP consulting /biz/ about what consulting is

[Anonymous No.11994550]

It means people ask you how to improve shit but your income relies on shit not improving

[Anonymous No.11994593]

All I know is, this meme was a market scheme and we all ate it up

[Anonymous No.11995154]

>>11994414
Tips on female sex workers, mostly to the IRS but their are other customers as well.

[Anonymous No.11995229]

>I am an influencer interested in blockchain, vegan lifestyle, and feminist theory.

[Anonymous No.11995243]

>>11994191
But you speak as if the ceiling is your meager 50k-100k salary, how is that life changing? I really like your post tho, so please indulge us.

I'm gonna be an entrepreneur and as such really want the real deal when it comes to marketing knowledge.

[Anonymous No.11995261]

I'm a consultant consultant.

[Anonymous No.11995286]

>>11993768
Never went to college, I consult for a Japanese company and get flown out once a year. College isn’t a requirement to become knowledgeable in a field.

[Anonymous No.11995333]

>>11993768
Thisx1000

Got friends working for Accenture who are entirely book smarts, no street smarts at all. They work with a team of ~30 people providing "business advice" to Fortune 500 brands, after having NO experience in personal business or business in general. And they're paid extremely well.

Good for them, I guess.

[Anonymous No.11995872]

>>11993768
I am an architectural consultant. I work with Architects and Engineers.

[Anonymous No.11996080]

I got a IT consultant job straight out of university due to my personality alone. Soft skills are key fellas.

My day on client site consists of implementing new workflow process scripting and requirements gathering/meetings. With a portion being dedicated remote admin stuff.

[street shitter No.11996199]

>>11995261
I consult the consultant consultants

[Anonymous No.11996479]

I just ignore anyone who says they're consultants unless they have 20 years of experience in the industry. The reason why out of college students can be consultants as a whole is because they're following a specific dialogue drilled into them by their institution. So really the consulting firm is consulting your business and the consultant is just the middle man. Also, some people manage to get consultant title by just helping others use a product. I sell 10,000 hyundais to you, and send a "consultant" along with them to make sure you're getting the best value of use., which again just takes a few weeks of training and a script to follow.

[Anonymous No.11996603]

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>>11994191
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>>11994318
>>11994347
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>>11994375
Get a load of this fucking boomer. Kek.

[Anonymous No.11996641]

>>11995333
It's called having rich parents and connections.

[Anonymous No.11996666]

how to be a crypto consultant?

Nothing crazy, just teaching people what bitcoin is and how to trade it on kraken or whatever. Is this feasible? Do I need a FINRA license and shiet? I know lots of old boomers who have no clue what the fuck bitcoin is but are still willing to buy some