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Median U.S. income for a full time worker is $47,000. These will soon be the most common jobs that mid-tier drones work, the ones that don't already. The college-educated population generally forms the upper third of income in occupations.

Thoughts on these jobs?

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>>11925897
I'm an A/V manager, pretty comfy, yet mentally rewarding work

>> No.11927238

>>11925897
>Heavy and tractor trailer driver
Pretty based job

>> No.11927255

>>11925897
Licensed plumbers make way more than this. Dental assistants make way more than this. Computer service - probably close. Licensed Electricians make way more than this.

>> No.11927257

>>11925897
>self enrichment education teachers

is that what youtubers are putting when they declare taxes?

>> No.11927271

>>11927255
coping tradefag in his first year of apprenticeship detected

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>>11927255
>I-I'll make way more than this when I finish my one semester of community college...
>d-da gubment is laying...

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And these are rapidly becoming the most common upper middle class to upper class jobs, say something nice about them.

>> No.11927357

>>11925897
>that feel when already a maintenance and repair worker for industrial automation

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No wonder Thots become Escorts.

>tfw honest work means wagecuck.

>> No.11927390

>>11927346

Software engineer here. I will be retiring at 45 >:)

>> No.11927434

>>11927346
>>11925897
Notice anything about entry-level education required?
>he fell for the "college is a meme" meme

>> No.11927497

>>11927434
The "college is a meme" meme is usually trotted out by dropouts.

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>>11927497
>>11927434

>> No.11927558

>>11927390
Sounds boring as fuck.

>> No.11927584

>>11925897
Bro American economy is gucked. Get ready for the next China. Just in burgerland.
The next few years are going to be great watching all you burgers eat your words.
Land uh da free.
Great amurrrrican products

Hahahha I laugh at all of you and none of you understand an economy.

>> No.11927591

>>11927434
Good goy. Keep making these useless college administrators wealthy.

>> No.11927596

>>11927591
drop-out COPE

>> No.11927644

>>11927596
t. someone who only uses an appeal to authority as some sort of achievement rather actually achievements

Maybe in the 60s you could be a boomer that looked down on people but the amount of degrees people have is around 40% already, soon enough it will be 60%

You’re not unique anymore

>> No.11927667

>>11927644
k whatever you can write all the gay little sanctimonious mini-essays on /biz/ you want, but it won't make you less poor. A degree might though.

>> No.11927693

>>11927667
debtslave cope

>> No.11927698

>>11927693
i graduated debt free. keep coping.

>> No.11927708

>>11927698
And I’m not poor. Keep coping

>> No.11927712

All seem pretty decent

America #1

>> No.11927715

>>11927667
Thanks goy. (For continuing to perpetuate
that people cant make it without college).

The masses will be indebted to student loans for years!!

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>>11927497
based truth poster.

>> No.11928031

>>11927644
>the amount of degrees people have is around 40% already, soon enough it will be 60%
Nope. The percentage of people with bachelor's degrees or more has been unchanged for the past couple decades. The average person is just not smart enough.

>> No.11928045

>>11927346
with the cat lady epidemic in full swing, i'm sure veterinarians have an extremely bright future

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>>11927346
>mfw graduating from good uni
>mfw going into statistics heavy profession
>mfw I have finance experience from internships
>mfw I might actually make it bros

All I have to do is survive two more semesters.

>> No.11928077

>>11928058
your jewish profession will be replaced by AI and you will be working at maccys
oh w8
robots are taking orders already and flipping burgers is in development.
What will you do anon?

>> No.11928105

>>11927644
>soon enough it will be 60%
Maybe, but not all degrees hold the same worth in the job market.

>> No.11928117

>still in school
you are still a nubile pup
10 years of work in a cube feels so abstract, so doable
when youre in the trenches youll realize not even 1 year is acceptable
i hope your debt is low enough that youll have a choice at that point

>> No.11928124

>>11928077
Program the AI. Nice dubs btw.

>> No.11928193

>>11928012
>>11927497
>he doesn't realize that the need for ton of plumbers, electricians and welders is because of the high rate of house construction
>he doesn't know it's about to fall

>> No.11928195

The college degree meme is bout the same or even dropping. Have you seen what the costs are for a 4 year degree anymore, even from the bottom barrel state universities? That shit is only going one way and that's up. Your average cuck only has two options; get lucky with financial aid (and wind up paying that shit off when he turns 35, if he's lucky) or killing himself with doing work and school both and end up taking longer to graduate. Either way once your done with all that your out on your ass trying land a high end gig so you can pay for all your bills and what not. The 3rd option is to join the military or land a fed/state job. I would suggest IT but even that is becoming more and more expensive to get into. The days of just Certs getting you in is almost gone. Plus the way a lot of those "IT programs" work anymore is to toss a load of shit classes in the mix that have nothing to do with what your goal is.

>> No.11928263

>>11928195
I was smart. No way was I gonna start out with my neck deep in debt. Got a few certs. Took a few classes at my community college (back when they still let you take just want you needed and not all the extra bullshit). Landed a state job, rock solid benefits w/the ability to retire fully after 27 yrs service. I'll be 50 and "retired" drawing a full pension + 401k and medical. No debt other than house which by the time I turn 50 will be paid for. So all in all not bad for some dude with no college degree

>> No.11928264

>>11928193
No, the BLS projects very high growth for those occupations over the next ten years.

>> No.11928266

You have to wonder what kind of jobs there'll be on lists like that 100 years from now.

>> No.11928287

I tried a single semester of College and hated it. Opted out of College and taught myself programming and now I work as a lower level blockchain developer making enough from home.

Best job I've ever had in my entire life. It's engaging, it's challenging, and I'll use this as my first major stepping stone to a very successful career.

If you've wanted to learn programming for the longest time and beaten around the bush, just find something you want to make and work towards writing it. Make sure you post about what you do and share your progress.

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>>11928263
>Working for benefits and a "retirement"

pathetic.

>> No.11928475

The cope in this thread is astronomical.
>went to cc, got an associates for free, worked and saved during those 4 years
>2 more years for BS at state uni, in-state tuition, freelanced graphic design and video editing, no loans
>got an assistantship to pursue MS, took it, no loans
>graduated at height of 2008 clusterfuck debt free
>now an instructional designer for a large company
>80k per year + 10% bonus + ESPP + subsidized meals
>current net worth $295k

oh my life sucks so bad, I'm such a wagecuck, save me

>> No.11928502

>>11928475
>oh my life sucks so bad
Well, I didn't notice any hobbies on that list of cope. I guess you don't have time for enjoying yourself.
>wrong I waste my money at bars every weekend!
Okay wagie.

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>>11928342
>working
Pathetic

>> No.11928542

>>11928045

I see people walking their bulldogs all over the place in my neighborhood. As long as people think those genetic shitshows are cute, veterinarians have no end to their cash flow in sight.

>> No.11928610

Holy shit, where are these electricians that are only making 35 grand a year? I'm an apprentice and that's my after tax income and I'm broke as fuck

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>>11927255
that is the average wage.. they are probably taking into account the wages of the apprentices too.

I'm a sparky and I am allowed a 3:1 ratio of apprentices to journeymen in my state. I would say 1 in 10 apprentices decide they like it enough to stick with it long enough to be eligible for a license, and probably about 3 out of 4 actually test out, then after that 1 in 10 jman quit after a few years when they realize they arent going to move into an office position ever.

btw I've been licensed for about 8 years (13 years total), running jobs for the majority of that time, biggest so far was $1m for just the electrical side of things, I make around $65k/year and get a truck and gas paid for. Its a fair living, I could support a family pretty easily on this wage.

>> No.11928665

>>11928031
Cope harder any retard can get a token degree from devry

>> No.11929731

>>11928266
probably entirely service-based jobs.

>> No.11929813

You can work any of these jobs and if you’re smart enough, confident and close to your bosses you can practically do any job within that company and make much more than you think you can make. Redpill anon: it’s about who you know not what you know. Get yourself into a decent company and if you play your cards right you end up being more than comfy.

>> No.11930076

>>11925897
>The college-educated population generally forms the upper third of income in occupations.
Not when 2/3 of the population is college education with debt and useless degrees. Even if EVERY ONE OF THEM beat every non-college educated, you can still be college educated and in the bottom 40%. Many will be.

>> No.11930168

>>11928264
Analysts tend to extrapolate trends. Wall Street is a mirrorlike example of this. Just look at how stocks get upgrade/downgraded after rising/falling.

>> No.11930282

>>11925897
real estate appraisal stands out as having the highest barriers to entry. it pays shit in the beginning but you can make a lot more than what's listed if you're decently analytical and motivated and take the right path. it's what I do, very flexible too if you work for a smaller/independent company. I work from home when not going out to see properties. I would highly recommend it as a good stable career if you can figure out how to get into it. I've made a lot more money in crypto, but it has always been a stable source of income regardless of what you are doing on the side and it is a good exercise to keep your mind fresh as each job is its own challenge. You can make more in sales if you are a hustler, but for any good people here who are introverted and analytical (i.e. you'd starve if you had to be a salesman) I'd highly recommend it

>> No.11930320

>>11930168
Yes because those two things couldn’t possibly have the same cause.

>> No.11930342

>>11930282
do you think lenders would ever just start using zillow and redfin? or will regulators only allow written appraisals from an appraiser?

>> No.11930415

>>11930342
>>11930342
it's going in the direction of less regulation. I have wondered this. Also the standard form for mortgage appraisals is made by Fannie Mae and has its own sort of encoding called UAD (uniform appraisal dataset) which basically is like zillow made from all of the conforming appraisals that happens and can only be seen by them and banks to some extent I believe. It's sort of a mechanism to look for anomalies as the moment from what I understand, but obviously they could do a lot with this data to figure certain things out. The problem with relying on things like zillow and redfin though is the quality of the input data, including whether or not it is biased in some way. If you ever look in depth into how zillow values something, for example, it can often use bad comparables and the subject and comparables will sometimes have incorrect data for their square footage and room count, as well as not having condition, quality, or location ratings. they are using their data I believe to fast track certain types of homogeneous or low risk loans, which is fine as I see it. I have been doing almost only estate work for the past year anyway, which I don't see going anywhere any time soon unless there are big simplifications to the tax code that make non-biased and defensible logical opinions of value on real estate unnecessary for the wealthy to manage their taxes and family inheritance disputes.

tl;dr: yes for more and more stuff but probably never completely. the top 30% or so of the profession should be safe no matter what

>> No.11930418

>>11927346
Physical therapy is a shit career. You have to do an unnecessary doctorate degree for 100k+ and then start a job for 75k working out the ass. You are also thought of as a joke by physicians who do a lot of the diagnosing for you anyways. Please only go down this career path if you love getting cucked doing something you love.