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anyone else losing faith and close to capitulating because of blockstream/jihan/craig/roger

its fucking over. now you have 3 coins who all claim to be bitcoin in the top 10.

what fucking institution would invest in this mess when you have a kike corp blockstream + a faggot greedy chink billionare + a billionare soiboi + an aussie faggot cunt fucking this whole market up.

they all made it already, they all billionares just dicking around cause of ego and destroying our chance to make it.

its over. im thinking of going all in on monero. atleast none of its forks claims to be monero ffs

>> No.11915536

I will never lose faith!

Trash will be picked and sorted through eventually

This is a currency for the people by the people

True, and I don't like them

>> No.11915559

>>11915388
yeah fuck bitcoin seriously

Link and Monero chadfolio

>> No.11915569

Thx for your coins, our greddy lords will recompesate you on a future suicide.

>> No.11915574

I'm pretty happy about it. Hard forks destroy long term stability of a coin, which also means that Bitcoin has the potential of being replaced one day by something better

Something that understands it's supposed to be a fucking stable currency and only does soft forks

>> No.11915580

blockstream changed the protocol
abc changed the protocol
sv didn't change the protocol

BTC is the real Bitcoin Segwit
BCH is the real Bitcoin Cash
BSV is the real Bitcoin

>> No.11915629

>>11915388
>Launch EFT which will propel crypto into the stratosphere
>Bunch of internet nerds own most of the supply
>Bunch of internet nerds throw more and more money at it because the bullrun is imminent
>Keep pushing back EFT and Backkt
>HASHWARS!
>Don't worry guys just HODL they are doing the final shake out!
>Don't worry guys the institutions are coming!
>After serious consideration we have decided we will move forward with cryptocurrency and (((our))) coin while moving away from Bitcoin and all its variations do to . . . (list of bullshit reasons)
>NEETS get fucked
>(((They))) win bigly.

I can't understand how you are not seeing this.

>> No.11915634

Not really, that's why both shitcoins are worth less than 0.05btc each. And monero is a meme that nobody uses (unlike bitcoin), so it'll be replaced by a superior privacy coin (grin).

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>>11915629

>> No.11915750

>>11915629

Only an idiot wouldn't think that big players would want to push for an early-days crypto that they can have a large quantity of to push as the de facto crypto over BTC. People should just keep their eyes open for new players in the space to get in on early that have potential for being 'better Bitcoin' (and not all the current coins which are just Bitcoin with one or two things changed)

>> No.11915774

>>11915629
This isn't possible /biz/ right? There is noway they would do this or can do this?

>> No.11915775

>google search that image
>she is crying because her instagram was deleted
>makes a shitload of money anyway
>”works hard” actually means she just gets fucked in the ass
>she thinks this is “work”

God damn whores. Meanwhile I’m poor and can’t just have sex to make money.

>> No.11915792

>>11915775

she’ll khs at some stage though

>> No.11915821

>>11915774
Why wouldn't they do this? Why do they have to choose Bitcoin? Anon fucking think, these hashwars have completely illegitimized bitcoin. Why exactly is the one called "Bitcoin" still bitcoin? Blockstream's changed it. Technically, BCHSV at this point is the one that follows the original whitepaper most accurately.

The only argument is the ticker symbol. There's so much confusion around Bitcoin that I could completely understand if they want to just fuck it and ignore BTC and focus on other crypto.

>> No.11915850

>>11915792
So will I.
Hopefully soon.

>> No.11915857

>>11915821
but bitcoin is the most fairly distributed coin and has market advantage. No why normies wouldn't understand the inherit superiority of bitcoin and its purpose.

>> No.11915903

>>11915857
You think institutions care about which one is the most fairly distributed? Them?

Honestly it would be to their advantage. "Look! We're going to trade in these cryptocurrencies not as popular as bitcoin, that have flown under the radar, and now is your chance to be an early adopter!"

It would honestly be easy, and normies would genuinely start to think "Oh wow, yeah bitcoin is so expensive already, I can get in on the ground floor right now with this officially backed crypto by the government!"

>> No.11915916

>>11915903
Jesus they are going to fuck me out of potentially being a richfag aren't they. I just know it.

>> No.11915975

>>11915388
I don't care about BTC per se, I'm more annoyed at how correlated everything is to BTC

>> No.11916003

>>11915916
Anon, the true redpill right now, is recognizing that "Bitcoin is the king" is the current absolute normie opinion in crypto these days. People are still assuming it's going to do what it always did, pointing back to the previous crashes as a reason to calm down and just wait for your 20x in a few years.

Can it still happen? Yes. But the chances are fucking low IMO. I'm unsettled because there's just so much more in the space other than Bitcoin, and the only reason people can think to continue holding is that it'll just recover and do what it did before because it did it before.

The actual redpill is finding legitimate alts that have persisted with active development in the top 20 throughout this bear market, and putting everything into those. Bitcoin maximalists will laugh at you, but they're the normies now.

If you think crypto isn't a meme, you should recognize that this inherently means other shit besides Bitcoin will actually stay and grow.

>> No.11916034

>>11916003
High IQ post.

>> No.11916062

>>11916003

This is my exact mentality. Also keep on the lookout for new cryptocurrencies on the scene that could fight Bitcoin for dominance

>> No.11916286

>>11916003
Literally figured this out when the first fork happened. I went all-in NEO knowing that shit wasnt going away anytime soon and knowing it had the most potential to dethrone ETH. This is literally everyones chance to get back in at ANS prices and NOBODY is talking about it, pretty depressing really...but come 2020 after the dust has settled, I'll have a shit ton of free GAS. GL Biz!

>> No.11916321

>>11916286
>NEO

He said legitimate alts

>> No.11916336

>>11916003
spoiler: its the fucking browser plugin token

>> No.11916523

>>11916336

That'll never take off

>> No.11916550

>>11915388
you're an idiot if you think blockstream has power over bitcoin

>> No.11916570

>>11916336
>an erc20 token

>> No.11916575

>>11915975
Based

>> No.11916613

>>11916286
Imagine being this stupid
NEO is a meme faggot

>> No.11916625

>>11916003
nobody is going to make a more decentralized fairly distributed coin than bitcoin
all this "tech" and "features" sacrifice some component that makes bitcoin valuable
most sacrifice decentralization by allowing higher data throughput
most sell ICO tokens to pay for advertising and development teams while bitcoin attracted everything organically

it's just not going to happen
bitcoin is the best deal with it

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All that will be left is the one coin that serves a purpose (other than monero)

>> No.11916676

>>11916625
>decentralized fairly distributed coin
>He thinks that matters at all to normalfags, the people needed for any crypto to go mainstream

>> No.11916695

Electroneum is the future.

>> No.11916790

>>11916550
>segwit
>small blocksize
lol

>> No.11916795

>>11916676
why would you want people to leave fiat if your idea was just as bad if not worse
this is why the word ponzi and scam is thrown around so much in crypto

nothing can be launched as perfect as bitcoin ever again
started as worthless, maintained ideals, organically attracted users developers and services
bitcoin is the best and for good reason
things will be expertly integrated into bitcoin over time, these token ICO pump and dumps are not sustainable and are in no way better than bitcoin

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>>11916643
>muh browser plugin token
Fucking idiot

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>>11915388
i used to be a bch shill but i just cant anymore, ez divide and conquer

>> No.11916836

>>11916790
optional softfork and blockstream didn't write segwit
and maintained consensus

wow you fell for the brainlet propaganda

>> No.11916896

>>11915388
So sick of this “blockstream is evil” trope. I am willing to bet every single one of the parrots squawking the blockstream took over BTC doesn’t even know what transaction malleability is, and why a fix was important. Nor do they comprehend that bigger blocks is like adding more ropes to pull a boulder, you cannot acheive a global transaction capacity this way. L2 solutions are the invention of the pulley, and will allow global transaction capacity while maintaining the security and immutability of the main chain.

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>>11916836
>>11916896

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>>11916802

>> No.11916989

>>11916286
>NEO
literally the only thing going for it is calling itself "The ETH of China", while having all of its slow, outdated issues when there are others surpassing it already.

>>11916336
>ERC20 token

You want alts that are either already on their own blockchain, or making it a priority to have their own blockchain. Anything that's relying on ETH right now is a fucking terrible investment because it depends on ETH actually surviving and scaling to be of any use.

>> No.11917050

>>11916831
>>11916951
a legit paid shill or bag holder shill

>> No.11917078

>>11917050
just shitposter

>> No.11917213

>>11916989
no it doesn't. ERC20 will work regardless of the price of ETH

>> No.11917526

>>11916951
BITCOIN OFFICIAL JIDF COIN

>> No.11917646

>>11916062
shitcoiners have been trying for 10 years, you will never get another currency that is as evenly distributed as btc, as immutable, decentralized and secure you can copy and fork all you want. No one cares. 10 years have passed and another 10 years will pass and bitcoin will still be the only legit cryptocurrency

>but (((they))) will create their own
it's gonna be obvious to any branlet out there, not gonna happen anyway since it doesn't make any sense, fiat already is digital anyway mostly

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>>11915388
If it wasn't for forks you would be stuck with the sabotaged and useless bitcoin. DYOR and draw your own conclusions. Don't get pissy with others because they didn't fall for obvious cons.

>> No.11917734

>>11917694
your senseless shill bullshit is amazing you post it in every thread

>> No.11917753

>>11915388
This is why we need A D O P T I O N and USE for Bitcoin (BTC).

Until you can fucking actually do things with your Bitcoin, like easily purchase things online, pay for services, etc., it's all a fucking meme. It's pie in the sky internet money until it has a solid use case.

BAT will have more of a use case than Bitcoin within 1 year.

>> No.11917757

>>11915775
>getting your asshole stuffed by huge black cocks and filled with endless herpes loads
>not hard work

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>>11916896
You're a self impressed fuckwit with no idea what you're talking about

>> No.11917787

>>11917734
> I don't understand any of that so imma pretend it ain't true.
Neck yourself. And I've seen this dozens of times. I just did my own research and found out it was actually correct.

>> No.11917818

>>11915388
BTC forks are literally cancer, this is why Xrapid and Ripple will be king.
Ethereum is busted with s 51% hack on its smart contracts.

>> No.11917834

>>11915388
>forks
Sure.

More like ponzi scheme
All assets that are backed by nothing and inflated by funny money fiat dollars are falling, Crypto is one of them

>> No.11917842

>>11917753
there is no point in adopting BTC because its such a fucking shitcoin, the blocks are too small for any fucking adoption, that's why it had reverse adoption last year

>> No.11918687

>>11917767
>replies with ad hominem and a semi-related screenshot to rebuke

You are the prime example of the “parrot”

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>>11915580
Which one of those would accept original Bitcoin blocks if mined today.

>> No.11919371

>killed bitcoin
cringe

nothing killed bitcoin, btc is alive and well, and doing exactly what everybody expected it to do after a huge bubble.

alts like bcash/bitcash/babcoin/sv/whatever are just killing alts, and making the gap between coins like bitcoin and ethereum, and the hoard of thousands of shitcoins nobody cares about even wider.

>> No.11919385

>>11915634
>nobody uses monero
Lots of criminals do.

>> No.11919394

>>11919385
yeah go look on darkweb, only two used currencies are Bitcoin and monero. And even there Bitcoin is being phased out.

Monero seems to be the only currency with an actual use case at the moment.

>> No.11919399

>>11915388
bitcoin is bitcoin. dumbfucks like roger and fake satoshi can say whatever they want, they can build whatever cult following that is stupid enough to follow them and parrot their memes, but bitcoin BTC is bitcoin and it always will be. bcash is bcash and bcash sv is a fork of bcash sv. why are you such a dumbfuck. keep in mind that all bitcoin and bitcoin forks are essentially useless. bitcoin is a novelty as digital gold, and bcash and bcash forks are utter shit because they are not bitcoin and thus not digital gold. the future of crypto is with other projects, now why don't you head back to redd!t you dumb cunt.

>> No.11919416

>>11915580
>blockstream changed the protocol
backwards compatible soft fork is now changing the protocol? okay then. without segwit smart contracts would be insanely expensive it just opens up possibilities and you don't even have to use it. i don't have a segwit wallet.

>> No.11919435

>>11915388
best anon coins == patrician's choice

>> No.11919452

>>11919394
> t. larping retard
biggest dn market doesnt even accept xmr lmao, only btc. kys brainlet

>> No.11919467

>>11919452
Wrong again. The biggest market accepts BTC and BCH.

>> No.11919479

>>11915388
>close to capitulating
capitulating was never an option anon!
it's do or die. the lower btc goes the less likely i am to sell and the more likely i am to buy more. don't be stupid!

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>>11915750

>> No.11919508

>>11915750
>that have potential for being 'better Bitcoin'
i have yet to seen one. seriously this is a big problem. all coins claiming to do better than bitcoin fail at the fundamentals. if you look at them neither one of them is a true trustless decentralized ledger. all of them are based on proof of authority of one kind or an other. and they either cling to btc chain for protection like a parasite (komodo) or open to hostile reorgs.

>> No.11919510

>>11919467
> implying anyone even uses bch after the fees are back intact on btc
gl cashing out on a zero liquidity shitcoin. it wasnt worth mentioning it.

>> No.11919518 [DELETED] 

>>11919510
+ this fork killed it for good anyways.

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>>11915388
>its over. im thinking of going all in on monero. atleast none of its forks claims to be monero ffs

I dumped all my SV for Monero

I'm sick of Bitcoin actually and I think the whales won't let SV shit all over the market's credibility like BCH did last year, they will dump that shit hard soon enough

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>>11919538

and thank god I'm rich or I would have completely abandoned crypto, watching this shitshow since 2011

>> No.11919638

>>11919483
mah niggah

>> No.11919841

>>11919348
What do you mean? Feels like this is a great rebuttal

>> No.11919923

>>11919841
Take an original pre-fork, pre-segwit client. Mine a block and see which of the all the current "bitcoin" clients will accept it.

>> No.11919976

>>11919923
If we take the Google databases and "soft fork" them so the databases now just refer to a set of upper layers which no longer serve the original purpose as a search engine but instead they're now an information brokering facility where you must pay elsevier for all the data you use, and we restrict that first layer infrastructure to a single computer with a total throughput of 28kbps, and anyone can use it as long as they bid competitively on the network with other users to do so, I suppose that's still Google too, right? BigDB would still sync after all.
I can't believe how credulous and stupid btc cultists are and how idiotic they are with their critical thinking about the kinds of tests they propose to ascertain if something is still the original thing.
Does it match the description in the white paper? No.
Does it match even the title of the white paper? No.
Does it have the properties which made it such a success initially? No.
Were there clear signs of tampering from cointelpro agencies to subvert it into the current path? Yes.
Were there clear conflicts of interest from the parties that forced through the soft fork? Yes.
Has everybody who wanted that original promise left for other projects which actually deliver it? If they have the brains to identify what happened, yes.
BTC IS FUCKING CANCER AND IDIOTS STILL IN BTC WILL GET FLUSHED WITH THEIR SHITTY SABOTAGED CONTAINMENT COIN.
This needs to happen for the market to actually be fucking useful rather than an ignorant barometer on cult opinion.

>> No.11920027

>>11919976
That's a long way to say that BTC core will accept it while others will not.

>> No.11920061

>>11920027
It's a short way of pointing out that it doesn't fucking matter. You are like the guy who would respond "well of course that's still Google. What are you suggesting, we use fucking duckduckgo or something? How absurd. I have kidneys to donate to cover my research quota no problem without breaking cult dogma".
You're a fucking idiot.

>> No.11920145

>>11915388
Why, there are now three bitcoins, each of them more real and the only bitcoin than the rest of them.

>> No.11920198

>>11915629
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS!

>> No.11920209

>>11915634

Grin Is unsecure and needs monero as the base layer peepee butt

>> No.11920246

>>11920061
which chain mined 100k+ coins outside distribution consensus by abusing an emergency difficulty adjustment several times

>> No.11920282

>>11920246
> a temporary bug in the distribution is worse than utter permanent kiking
OK kid. You go on telling yourself that.

>> No.11920309

>>11920282
a permanent scar of unfair distribution on a minority altchain to an unchanged consensus with an overwhelming majority of hashing power, economic activity, and development

>> No.11920317

its called dilution op

>> No.11920380

>>11920309
The distribution divergence went to the exact same parties. It's initial distribution not permanent, and it reduces every day. It's already down to 80k. And the very fact this is the best comeback you have against the utter subversion of your shitcoin speaks volumes about how different the situations truly are. There's just no other criticisms of BCH. It's doing exactly what the original Bitcoin project promised, period. They even offloaded all the technically ignorant fuckwits courtesy of SV.
Hashing power follows profitability. Whichever coin has the most gets it, period.
Manipulative pump and dump actions on continuing subversion are not "development and economic activity" try as your coretard cultist heart may wish to describe them that way. Both would pale in comparison to the traditional financial system in that aspect, over which btc holds no independence and is wholly controlled by courtesy of the subversion.

>> No.11920499

>>11917818
>Ethereum is busted with s 51% hack on its smart contracts.
What?

>> No.11920536

>>11919394
>only two used currencies are Bitcoin and monero. And even there Bitcoin is being phased out.
Nobody uses monero. 4575 transactions in the last 24 hours, at least 698 from mining rewards, so 3877 from users.
Monero is such a meme

>> No.11921491

>>11915388
stop falling for drama you fucking faggot

t. Blockchain Billionaire