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Fuck discord edition.


Please check previous threads for inspiration.
Ask any questions and hopefully an anon can help.
Be polite but tough love is welcome.
Tripfag if you are frequent or want to, or don't it's up to you.

In this thread, I'm going to compile the best income streams ordered by investment required, including both online and offline options

Little to no Investment($100-$1k), very hands on
>Direct Response Copywriting
>Dropshipping
>Social Media Marketing
>Digital Media or Marketing
>Affiliate Marketing
>Media Buying
>Web Development
>Freelance software development
>Making Online Courses
>Self publishing Ebook (comprehensive guide:https://kindlepreneur.com/book-marketing-101/))
>Product Arbitrage
>Consulting
>Sales

Some Investment Required($1k-10k)
>ATMs
>POS Systems
>Slumlording
>Daytrading
>P2P Lending
>Authoring or Online publishing
>Vending Machines
>Automated News sites or any kind of automated blog
>Automated online Arbitrage with the help of a buy bot

Large Investment Required, but still very passive(10k+)
>Parking Garages or lots
>Laundromats
>Batting Cages
>Rental Properties
>Buying Royalty rights on music, media, etc

If you have any comprehensive guides. Post them and we'll add them here.

Feel free to add more and share your knowledge, experience, advice with others, but I think that's a lot of value that you won't find in most threads here.

Dropbox
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/tqnuzrzrp0llrv3/AAA-6c_oXANnBEKK3Xt1K5pda?dl=0

>> No.11834146

Thanks for this m8. But what's wrong with the discord?

>> No.11834353

>>11834146
This thread is posted on 4chan, not discord. Talk about entrepreneurship on 4chan.

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bro watch this get pruned in 3 hours. unless your gonna put the work in and bumping it. ill help if I can, of course, but these pink wojacks threads and crypto threads are coming in way too fast.

>> No.11834567

>>11834416
I guess that is a good thing, sooner or later they will either kill themselves or leave crypto behind and then we can have true peace

>> No.11834778

>>11834146
fuck yourself zoomer

>> No.11834805

what are youse guys best hustles for making an extra hundred dollars a week/month on the side?

>> No.11834978

anyone knows how to make some easy bucks with data scraping?

>> No.11835432

bumping should be a paid service

>> No.11835453

>>11835432
Maybe it could be? theres bound to be someone on the more popular chans willing fork up cash for keeping their thread alive

>> No.11835469

>>11835453
And then it comes down to becoming a paid shill

>> No.11835715

>>11835469
exactly!

>> No.11835972

Hey dude youngpoorfag is right. It's hard to keep these threads up with crypto shitting the bed. Thanks for making it though. How bad did things get in the discord? Wanna tell us what happened?

>> No.11836012

>>11834805
Probably only works for some people but I basically help friends and family with cleaning/random errands. Alternatively reselling on eBay high price items. I live in a nice area so a lot of antiques at yard sales here. Have you looked the dropbox? Ideas for side hustles are there.

>> No.11836188

>>11836012
Yeah, I used to do some yard work for my aunt that netted me a nice hundred a month, but she doesn't need me to do so in the winter, and after this winter she will be moving so I have been thinking about finding something to replace that income. I have checked the dropbox yeah, just thought I see if anybody had any ideas that weren't already int he dropbox.

>> No.11836520

Has anyone here made any money off of Etsy?

>> No.11836851

>>11834114
You forgot to post the previous thread "nigga"

>> No.11836902

So how does the vending machine game work? I just buy a machine, set it up somewhere and refill it once a month?

>> No.11836944

>>11834114
I'm thinking about buying cheap shit from Ali baba and reselling it in my city. Has anyone had experience with Alibaba??

>> No.11837147

>>11834567
>caring about peace
FUCKING FOCUS ON MAKING MONEY YA DOLT

>> No.11837926

Am I going to run into legal trouble operating a business out of my apartment?

>> No.11837957

I am planing on publishing books on kindle and per print on demand. It will be little like 50 - 100 pages. But i will publish many of them like i plan to publish 10 in german and the same books or little lectures in english.

Has anybody made expierience with this and can tell me when you get like a small money per month out of this. Like around 1000€.

Advise on book marketing with facebook amazon and google is welcomed to.

Thanks frens

>> No.11837966

>>11837957
Look in OP:
>Self publishing Ebook (comprehensive guide:https://kindlepreneur.com/book-marketing-101/))

But I want to do this too in the future.
Pick a topic you are good in and write about it.

>> No.11837976

>>11837926
depends on the country
if you own it
if there a certain rules regarding your neighbours

It can be legal
but hardly if it is in a block with 100 other people and you will have customers moving in and out.
If it is just your office to work alone in peace, maybe.

>> No.11838140

Bump from page 4.

>> No.11838155

Bump

>> No.11838189

>>11834114
Anyone do mailers before? I am trying to target construction companies and I don't think that email blasts would generate as much as me just physically mailing them the product. I have talked to three larger companies already and they all said that my product is great and I should send it to others.

Any idea what I should expect from sending 1000 packages of stuff to people that I know need them?

>> No.11838219

>>11838189
Hoping to generate enough money from it to then also do emails to people across the country. Not sure if my product is required by law there or not though.

If 1% began ordering I think I would be happy but I am not sure what percentage of people just throw mail away from places they don't recognize.

>> No.11838236

any /biz/ approved books?
I've read 4 hour work week, rich dad poor dad, millionaire fastalene. thinking about unscripted. currently reading how to get rich (dennis) it is super boring. also bought how to fail at almost everything and still win big.

>> No.11838246

>>11838189
Start with a simple bright colored envelope with a personal note asking if they're at all interested.

Something truly attention-grabbing. Then send them the sample of the product if they're interested.

This way you're disqualifying the large amount of people who'll just ignore your thing, and curating a list of people who are most likely to buy.

And it's cheaper than sending lumpy mail for a first blast.

Also don't forget to follow up ruthlessly. You want their business, make sure they know it.

>> No.11838265

can dropshipping still work in 2018/2019? me and my bro are planning on growing instagram and facebook page accounts , and then create droppshipping website based with that brand, good idea?

>> No.11838294

>>11838265
its dead fren

>> No.11838325

>>11838246
Yeah, I am basically just producing 1,000 of my product in a scaled down business card form with my contact info. The state just moved in and said that they have to have what I make and as far as I can tell they are all scrambling to find places to have them made. Some don't even know what they are looking for is called so that's why I moved to immediately sending product.

Good call on the note, I think I could send those out of state and use it to get a break on shipping cost for the ones with product nearby. I'll follow up after I do it and let you guys know how many new accounts came from it.

>> No.11838341

>>11838265
Dropshipping was a dead end for me and then because I already import and get end column pricing I tried handling the product myself and while the margins were better the sales were still shit. I made a lot more money thrifting and selling designer clothes & video games desu.

>> No.11838365

>>11834146
go ask >>>/g/, they'll educate you

>> No.11838772

>>11834978
do something like what google flights did with scraped data then monetize that site

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previous bread : >>11804941

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I don't have a ton to add, but these threads don't get a lot of love and I want to keep lurking them.

Took an online course for a month on digital marketing, fizzled out of it, only takeaway I got from it is that you should get google adwords certified, basic seo/ppc whatever, put together a good resume and try to get your foot in the door for a digital marketing job. The prospect of online money is exciting because you assume there is an extremely vast array of ways you can syphon money from people. But it all just boils down to spam, affiliate links, youtube, blogs, dropshipping. Not really including freelance in that. When you genuinely do not believe you can make money with it, it's hard to dedicate time into learning it. Especially because a lot of it is just to push some type of product or "thing" that you have created.

Halfway through listening to "How to fail at almost everything and still win big" and he pushes the idea that you should have systems you follow for success, not goals. A lot of what he talks about sounds good, it's just you kind of have to already have a clue of what you are good at or think you can do before implementing them. I don't know exactly what qualifies a skill or thing I think I'd be good at, like you hear that stuff and try to dig in your mind back to childhood for hints or something and it all seems worthless.

TL:DR: Digital Marketing is extremely demoralizing and feels worthless when going from a 0 skillset NEET and trying to somehow have money drop in your paypal. The mindsets used for success is also worthless IF you have no clue in the first place what you are good/excel at, if anything.

>> No.11839364

Is it viable to sell pirated e-books on eBay or my country's equivalent?

>> No.11839369

>>11839268
Sounds like we got off on the wrong foot.

If you're looking at shitter-level shit, you're obviously going to see a lot of affiliate, shady, spammy stuff.

At the same time, there's many ways to have a clean business that is 100% legal, with happy customers, and no bullshit.

I very highly recommend getting Doberman Dan's "Just Sell The Damn Thing" book if you're looking for something which doesn't mess around. "DotCom Secrets" is also an excellent intro to the serious side of online business, and it touches on many things which are the difference between a spammy CPC affiliate 'business', and an actual business with a serious offering.

You say you're 0 skillset, but you write decently. You could run your posts through say, HemingwayApp or something, and start making dough writing content. It doesn't pay well, but it's definitely a step-up from not having any income.

>> No.11839373

>>11839268
Also by GOD, read Cardone's "Sell or be Sold", it'll change your life.

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>>11839369
>>11839373
Thanks, I'll throw um in the text file list. The core skill, or product, any actual substance is what I have an issue with creating/understanding. Along with actually believing and having faith in it or myself (not to sound dramatic, you know probably know the feeling, learning basic concepts of skills needed for _____ business, reading on some website or course. In the back of your head "this is a complete waste of time, fluff, I have no clue how I personally can make money by learning this". Then also just being lazy for days/weeks, but then going "If I was meant/wanted to do it, wouldn't it excite and motivate me, or am I making excuses? Does anyone "like" anything? I don't think I'll ever have the discipline", etc. etc. more negative inner monologue (specifically it's what I consider realistic thoughts, along with confusion, but I suppose that is still negative)

Not to be a downer, at the very least me, and everyone else can cram pirated self help books into their head.

>> No.11839637

>>11839628
also
>Sounds like we got off on the wrong foot.
Wasn't me whoever you were talking to, I know some other dude mentioned that book in here. From watching hydewars

>> No.11839651

>>11839628
Yeah man I follow. There's a reason why self-righteous pricks live at the top of the pack, and why most direct response people are very straightforward and have oppressive feeling personalities; you don't get to the top with doubt.

Basically, just fucking start, do your best, see what happens.

Only thing to remember is, what people perceive, is what they'll react to - make sure you come across as confident.

>> No.11839654

>>11839637
Yeah, I meant it more in the metaphorical "the online moneymaking business" way.

>> No.11839674

>>11839637
What book is mentioned in hydewars?

>> No.11839720

>>11839674
How to Fail at Almost Everything and Still Win Big
by Scott Adams

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I work retail at $30/hr but I want to move out of it. Been working retail for the last 18 months (21 yrs old) and I've saved up 33k.

I'm thinking of buying an Escape Room business for 25k in my city and seeing if I can build up a decent income from it. What's /entg/'s opinion on Escape Room businesses? Good first business?

little background info; my parents are both business owners and my goal is to own my own 6 figure business one day. Tried uni when I finished high school but didn't enjoy it or feel like it'll get me where I want.

>> No.11839802

>>11836520
Am interested in this as well.
Thought of getting some designs made in chinkland and selling them there, but i hear that chinks are professional scammers and jewelry is by far the most competitive industry to enter.

>> No.11839852

>>11834978
A shitload of people build sites with Youtube comment data.
Youtube themselves has noindex on their user comments. But if you crawl YT and scrape that data, then you can get the comments indexed on Google. It is low quality SEO, but who cares. It's millions (or billions) of pages for "free".
Example: http://marijuanalife.io/2018/04/15/macka-bs-medical-monday-turmeric-refix/

>> No.11839878

>>11838236
This one works for me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGYFzAuhaAI
Especially in this abbreviated version
I've recommended it many times here on biz, so you might have seen it before

>>11838265
Everything almost always works, you just gotta do it right. You can make money building steam engines in 2018/2019.

>>11839364
Course literature is heavily policed, but sure you can do that. Get many eBay accounts though, 'cause you will be going through them like crazy: aspkin.com

>> No.11839885

>>11834353
Finally you fucks realized this faggot IRC knock off killed these threads. Kek. Only took like 20.

>> No.11839907

>>11838236
Anything You Want by Derek Sivers

>> No.11839937

>>11839373
Why.

>>11839628
Read >>11839907 it can be read in 1-2 hours. Read this before doing anything else. Don’t bother thanking me later, I won’t be here.

>> No.11839989

> Short sold 18 BCH near the top of the last pump
> Withdraw 1500 euros to the bank, this is equal to 2.5 months of expenses, but the expenses could be lower
> Now bought bach 23.1 BCH
> Still got a bit over 5000 TUSD

Now I want to devise a strategy for possible market movements. It's quite possible that altcoins bottomed out, as BCH deflated 95%. But BTC still may go down, and this time it couldn't pull the altcoins with it. There still room for BTC to deflate.

On the flip side, if it would return to the previous high of 650, that would be 15k USD worth of BCH.

So I am trying to find out entry points to max out my BCH position while keeping enough life roll, and I can cut expenses as low as 250 euros a month.

>> No.11840020

>>11839989
I thought every other thread was about shitcoins. Why shit down this one?

>> No.11840071
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Is investing into metaphysical stuff (Tarot, Crystals, Wicca, Etc) worth it? I have zero connection to it personally, however i have the unfortunate insight into the culture and people who are into that sort of thing. I am leaning more towards an online start and if it picks up then a storefront investment with people able to rent kiosks/booths within the store, though preferably in a left-leaning college city in hopes that the shit i'd peddling will sell like hotcakes. Would i at least turn 2k gross based on that vague as fuck description?

>> No.11840133

>>11840071
What insights do you have? My friend did this in NYC and made $, generated leads online. Many people were open to readings via phone and email.

>> No.11840160

>>11840133
The exact mindsets of the people who engage and practice along with those who are curious, the fucking multitude of different branching practices, the inter-conflict between pretty much everyone who does readings or sales aka drama.

>> No.11840517

>>11839720
I thought the Scott Adams shit was satire. Sam Hyde is a weird ass nigga

>> No.11840529

>>11840071
Depends on your region, though it'd probably be successful if you watch your costs carefully and don't spend too much in rent or something. That said, there are a whole fucking lot of esoteric shops where I live, so watch out for any competition.

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>>11840529
What is your general area or at least its archetype so i know to be aware of it? I would try like hell to avoid competition by promoting collaboration through the aforementioned vendor idea, events, festivals, etc. I don't have any personal connection either like a psychic or medium, whereas most shop owners usually are. I think that can work to my advantage if i approach them personally.

Also there is a far fetched idea of setting up on waterfront property next to a strong river/current and using a horizontal dam-like structure to generate electricity to cover most most if not all utility costs, probably retarded though.

>> No.11840966

Q for the affiliate anons:

Is it better to start with a few websites with quality content(self written or bought from agency) OR make a script that auto generates a ton of sites with pajeet tier content?

>> No.11841323

>>11840966
Make one authority site. The ones making it with shit filled seo sites have an edge they are not going to share with you that makes this possible. Myself included. Focus on one, then flip it. Do over and over.

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Page 8 bump what are my doods up to today ?

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I' planning on buying a retirement home or an ambulant care service, since many owners in my region sell those businesses because of their own retirement.

I'm a head nurse in a hospital so I kind of know the industry?

What do you think? You can milk the money out many aging boomers.

>> No.11842091

>>11842064
Sorry for the autistic mistakes
t. phoneposter

>> No.11842174

>>11842064
I was wondering the same, I know the countryside around my city pretty well and houses can go for cheap there. Would it be profitable to sell city-dwelling boomers houses and ambulant care services in exchange for their city properties ?

>> No.11842375

>>11836520

If you can make things under a pound or that could fit in a USPS padded envelope you'd be able to offer a wide array of products that could be relatively competitive on price.

I feel like glass blowers would do well on there.

>>11836944

Easier said than done. For example, a lot of sellers on Alibaba are actually middlemen that are simply brokering for factories/manufacturers and are adding their mark up because you see a low price and figure it's incredible.

>>11837926

If it's digital, consulting, remote you're probably fine. If you have people coming and going it'll be an issue since you're fully using it for commercial use. Your best bet is to talk to the landlord and probably consult a local lawyer involved in real estate.

>>11839364

I believe eBay is finally cracking down on that. Don't be ignorant, the large publishers are grouping up and going full force in combatting counterfeits.

>>11839724

If you're making $30 at a retail position I'd sure as hell like to know what you're doing unless you're a store general manager or in a country with inflated wages.

Escape rooms seem like a niche that's working out. My only question is what experience do you have with that kind of stuff and how much are you willing to flesh it out? You will absolutely at some point need a designer to keep rooms unique, probably a marketer to keep you relevant, and any other help with business functions unless you're confident you can handle operations, accounting, financial management etc.

>>11840071

It'd be cool to have an online moniker and generate leads to your site (or a third party service if you want to build your network on there). Probably high margins if you do it the remote way.

>>11840966

Find a system where you can incorporate both. Where your content is quality with good writing, pictures/videos (copy right compliant of course else get them cheeks spread with lawsuits) but one where you can grind out relevant content.

>> No.11842389

Wow this thread fucking sucks. Kek.

I do the following currently.
>Shopify/drop shipping
>Mobile apps
>Few SEO properties

I’ve done in the past
>email marketing
>seo
>ppc
>biz opp cpa/pps shit
>YouTube (before there was money in it, used it as a means of traffic gen)
>you name it p much anything black or white hat

>> No.11842434

>>11842064

My town seems to have a shift towards older people living in the area. I've had an idea of finding homes with good book value that are simply ugly (paint, shit lawn job, etc.) and cleaning them up and then renting them out to older folk who simply need a place to vegetate. Basically be super friendly to any families that want their parents living there and explain how I'm simply trying to keep rents consistent. Offer them a deal where if they choose to renew their rent that you'd cap your maximum increase to $50 a month for taxes, maintenance, etc and really explain that you'd only do it if taxes went up or something.

The cherry on top would be if you had an online store/ebay account. If they eventually pass away or do make a move to a retirement home you could offer them a service of cleaning their shit up for free and let them pick over their photos, memorabilia etc. It'd be huge to flip their furniture or whatever locally and I imagine their kids don't want to spend anymore time moving shit around.

>> No.11842652

>>11836902
You will need to ask whoever owns the place if you can put your machine there, pay them either rent or a part of the profits from your machine. You should test the waters and start out with a small machine. There's some vids on youtube that can help. But basically yeah you set it up and refill it.

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Can someone post link to biz or entrepreneur discord for newfag?

>> No.11843233

>>11842665
I don't know it. But it might be in the archive, just find previous /entg/ threads or use warosu.org/biz search box for discord or .gg links.

>> No.11843396

>>11842665
>>11843233
here ya go kiddos
https://discord.gg<slash>4usKUGn

>> No.11843458

>>11842665
>>11843233
>>11843396
NO. Get that cancerous shit out of here. Just post in the god damn thread.

>> No.11843490

>>11843458
I agree.

>> No.11843549

>>11843458
give me valid reasons why you dont like the discord lmao

>> No.11843553

>>11843396
>https://discord.gg<slash>4usKUGn
Thanks, lad.

>> No.11843562

>>11843549
are you running the discord now?

>> No.11843573

>>11843562
nah, I'm not even sure who made it lol. I'm just not opposed it like the other dude.

>> No.11843681

>>11843549
The point is that every discussion made on the discord is not made on 4chan therefore not bumbing the thread and making it die.

If people don't see the thread, how are gonna participate?

>> No.11843757

>>11843681
yeah, that's true. but I wouldn't hate on the discord

>> No.11844039

>>11843549
It’s for Zoomers, isn’t archived, isn’t as easy to follow threads within threads and etc etc not to mention sucks the flow out of these threads. I’m out peace.

>> No.11844077

>>11843549
What's the point of making a daily general thread if you're just going to tell everyone to have a discussion on some other website?

>> No.11844171

well it seems alot of you have a general hate for entg on discord. Well then just stay on 4chin . i check it every hour to see the discussion.

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>>11834114
For anyone in this thread that wants a business E-book, or any book in general, you can get them for free off of:
https://www.libgen.io
https://www.pdfdrive.com

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>>11834114
which bizantines here program for fun?

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Hey guys in the entrepreneurial spirit I just created a website for my hilarious videos. I think its pretty funny! Can't wait until people start sending me pics / and requests! Check it out:

(probably not safe for work, or when eating)

https://ultimatepoopvideos.tumblr.com/

btw im not indian, just in case anyone is wondering

>> No.11844825

>>11840160
Hey you know that instagram crystal guy basically built up a ton of instagrams based on this type of stuff and started doing ads for related products like tarot cards, healing crystals, etc. He said he used the followliker bot and grew the pages into 10k plus a piece. You could build them up and sell them for profit or, feature products from stores and get paid.

>> No.11844862

>>11844240
Thanks dude

>> No.11844955

>>11838236
Did you buy it because of Sam ?

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If anyone's interested in doing a collaborative dropshipping business project, start by joining the discord. This is firstly a learning project where you can implement whatever skill you have, or want to learn. If the dropshipping becomes profitable, then we can reinvest/share the profit after expenses. If it's successful, then you can copy the model we create and make your own business.

Some anons were having trouble with the discord link for some reason, but here's the permanent link, as well as the temporary:

https://discord.gg(slash)gTXuwU

https://discord.gg(slash)6mBdPwQ

I want to get started soon since we have a couple anons in here already, and a couple more interested.

If the discord doesn't work, then friend me:
SupDude#7565

>> No.11845055

here a CSS course I'm doing. i know some of you guys struggle with it , so do i. but this course is really solid. i actually feel excited to learn css now
https://cssgrid.io/

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>>11845055
ay heres a heads up bro, udemy has a black friday sale, courses worth $199 are now $9.99, you could definitely find like a +10 hour CSS course on there

>i am not a paid udemy shill

>> No.11845553

>>11839268
>I don't know exactly what qualifies a skill or thing I think I'd be good at
The thing that you are good at is the thing that you do as a hobby. The thing that you do even if nobody pays you for it. Whatever it is. That's your Thing. There are probably jobs around that thing, but you might have to think very hard if it's something like "I like playing videogames". But there is going to be something there that can make you money. If nothing else, you can write articles about your thing, and become a journalist.

>> No.11845845

>>11845553
I don't think enjoying passive entertainment or consumerism translates to anything. Writing is it's own separate hobby/skill, that isn't the thing you like itself, even if you wanted to say "well it's like talking about it". The prospect of writing about games or music on a wordpress blog or whatever is pointless and saturated. And again, it isn't the thing you like doing, then assuming you want money you have to learn digital/affiliate marketing which is the real job anyway.

When people say that it just sounds like "hey you've probably been programming for fun the last few years, intensive graphic design, or building artificial hearts that revive the dead, just monetize that ya dummy!"

>> No.11846587

I need money and I'm thinking about tutoring. I have literally no money to advertise with (currently), but I have a website and a dedicated phone number.
My issue is that I can't exactly figure out who to target.
One potential target audience is parents - I don't know how to reach them, though. My end goal for the business is to get into making content like books and courses.
Alternatively, I could go for the kids that want to do well (or enjoy it) and make blog posts / Youtube videos / courses / books for them (and post them on social media), but that seems a little tougher. I know Art of Problem Solving has done that pretty well, which gives me some hope. And I know how to advertise on social media a little better for kids than parents.
Anyone have an opinion on which route I should go first? Anyone know how I should advertise?

>> No.11846598

>>11846587
What subject

>> No.11846623

>>11834114

Alright /biz/ I just made my first porn site and I'm trying to make money through ad revenue but I have low traffic at the moment, how do I increase the amount of traffic I can produce for my site other than advertising it on here?

>> No.11846640

>>11846623
Cheese pizza

>> No.11846749

>>11846598
Math, maybe eventually adding science / CS / English.

>> No.11846750
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11846750

I'm in a bit of a dilemma. I work at a place and have access to: an advanced sticker printing machine, t-shirt printing and high end lasers to cut acrylic, polycarb, and other random shit, as well as etch wood/aluminum. I have the ability on my days off to use these machines. I've got no ideas except ebaying meme-stickers or cutting out and etching meme-acrylic wojacks or pepes. I can use all the scrap materials for no cost too. I'm sitting on a goldmine and have no fucking ideas. Obviously if I quit my job I lose access to all this equipment (the lasers are worth millions). Any ideas? Honestly at the end of a 45 hour week all I want to do is drink and waste away but I know if I get something going I could double my income. In a previous thread the ideas given were: placards for weddings and acrylic chairs.

>> No.11846762

>>11846750
What kind of job gives you access to this for free? What kind of sticker machine?

>> No.11846771

>>11845845
You need to change your attitude dude. People turn what they like or know how to do into things everyday. If you have no skills and just want to make money, go back to school and learn something and get a career. Even people on YouTube make money talking about their passions or hobbies, even if they make a small amount and have a small audience. Everything is saturated. Every single idea in history has been done already. So what? People still make a living doing the sames things as other people every day. Theres a million liquor stores, hundreds of donut shops, delivery services, mattress stores etc. People who have such a defeatist attitude like yours is depressing. Fucking try something. Then if that doesn't work try something else until something sticks. Isn't there anything you like autistically? (Ie are passionate about) even if it's stupid? I don't want to be harsh it's just certain people want help but refuse any advice.
>passive entertainment and consumerism
Go outside, find joy in your life money isnt the problem

>> No.11846775

>>11846623
Batch Download porn/webcam videos, batch watermark, reupload with stuffed titles/keywords. I did this for years sending traffic to adult cpa offers. Still works. Made around 80k doing this.

>> No.11846786

>>11846749
What’s the site?

>> No.11846829

>>11846762
>>11846762
It's a small business and I've been told I can work on my own stuff on the side if I pay for materials and stuff. Scrap would be free and if the item I make is small enough (under 8 x 8 inches) I could have near infinite free scrap. I'd have to check next week what the sticker machine is, but it's advanced and by the same company that makes the lasers. It's like 40 inches by 40 inches so it can be used to detail cars and shit.

>> No.11846837

>>11846750
Why not try and find fairly successful meme pages on social media with no products, contact them and offer to make products for them for a cut? You could make cool designs and collab with them, sell for a higher price. Idk I so want to help but I don't have many ideas for you. I have a meme instagram where I have oc and reaction pics and id love to have that kind of access. My page is super small though. I hope you find a way to monetize it dude.

>> No.11846855

>>11846837
Collab shit isn’t worth it desu. Better to make your own site and give them a cut or just pay them flat to promo your shit. This is what I do with my Shopify store + affiliate program.

>> No.11846857

>>11846786
Honestly, I'd rather not say - it has my real name on it. It's a basic landing page at the minute.

>> No.11846886

>>11846857
https://www.gooroo.com
There’s dozens of sites like this. Why aren’t you using them..?

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>>11846623
ha this is amazing whats the site bro?

what stack did you develop it in? any other programming projects you're working on?

>>11846749
CS? do you have any cool side projects?

>> No.11847421

Bump this back up a bit

>> No.11847681

Good thread. What's the best coding language for free lance shit? I don't want to be a code monkey though.

>> No.11847740

>>11847681
>good thread
I kekd

>> No.11847854

If I start a clothing brand is it feasible to start out as a "boutique" selling other people's items and eventually turn it into my own designed product when more money is available? Or should I just go for broke and start with my own items? This is not another graphic tee brand FYI.

>> No.11847971

>>11847854
Online or brick and mortar?

>not another tee brand
Then what is it.

>> No.11848017

>>11846771
My joys are watching shit and watches. So unless I start a blog or youtube channel, that is it. I just don't like the vapid "you like eating candy, THAT will get you money". There is nothing outside my window, I've checked. I believe something will make me money but I hate hearing P A S S I O N, it means nothing, I get it if you are an athlete or something but c'mon man get real.

>> No.11848131

>>11848017
Yeesh might as well just end it then dude. How depressing
>there's nothing outside my window
There's an entire planet full of stuff dude wtf

>> No.11848150

>>11846855
I don't really know much about collabing, just thought I'd try and thrownan idea out there for this dude. Also why are you here if you don't think it's a good thread?

>> No.11848165

>>11847971
Online. I'd be focusing on other kinds of clothing items. Casual wear stuff. Sweatpants, Hoodies and the like. Staying away from t-shirts.

>> No.11848196

>>11848131
That I don't have access to. I got a few thousand $ and a room with the internet to try and make money with

>> No.11848302
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11848302

At what point does a drone's flight time become needlessly excessive? I can make this thing fly for 12 hours straight, but would it even be worth it compared to something that can fly for 4 hours?

>> No.11848315

>>11847681
Do you already know at least one programming language? If yes, you are asking the wrong question.
>free lance shit
If no, then javascript/ general web development. It will take a while before you're good enough that people are willing to pay for your work, though.

>> No.11848350

>>11844642
You're not Indian

>> No.11848375

>>11848165
Why stay away from the easiest item to sell with the highest margins?

>> No.11848464

Free bump.
Also a question, anyone listen to audiobooks? What's the best way?

Anyone have experience monetizing gaming bots?

>> No.11848683

>>11848302
Depends the usecase I guess

>> No.11849597

>>11848683
It's mainly for surveying, mapping, and surveillance. The main selling point is its compactness and ease of use. It folds up and fits in a backpack.

>> No.11849734

>>11848464
What's a gaming bot?

>> No.11849803

>>11848196
You briefly mentioned watches, why not resell that? Learn more about them, learn to fix them. I've seen numerous Armenians open little watch kiosks and they make money. Enough to afford rent in a very rich mall that overcharges. Same thing with fixing and reselling phones. Unless you live in a commieblock I cant really feel sorry for you. You have a serious defeatist attitude and until you fix that, you won't go anywhere. That's my opinion at least. If you haven't already there's stuff in the Dropbox about starting stuff online, people have already suggested stuff but you keep refusing it or dismissing it pointless or whatever.
Also shit you said about candy here >>11848017 look up Japanese candy art. People literally fucking make a business out of anything. Unboxing channels exist. If you get popular enough companies send you products that are worth thousands of dollars to review. Like dude come on. You can literally learn skills from youtube tutorials and books.

>> No.11850562

>>11848302
>>11848683
>>11849597
Okay, so would a cheaper battery-only version with 3 hours endurance for $7k, and a more expensive solar version with 6-12 hours endurance (depending on sunlight) for $10k make sense? They would cost $2k and $5k to make, respectively, netting me $5k per drone. Should I go cheaper, or try to maximize profit more? Also how do I into market research and pricing?

>> No.11850587

>>11850562
Oh also those are the prices without sensors (4K camera + thermal imager combo, or multispectral sensor) which would be another $6k.

>> No.11850696

>>11850562

You may want to look at what is already on the market.

You can do decent aerial survey and point cloud mapping with nothing more than a dji phantom and flight planning/imagery processing with drone2map these days.

>> No.11850781

>>11850696
Are range and endurance not very big sellers then? The solar version can map 27 square miles of terrain at a 400 foot altitude in one eight hour flight.

>> No.11850952

>>11850781

I couldn't tell you, if I had to guess, it'd come down to price point. Endurance/range can be fixed by swapping the battery (at the expense of time). That said, range/endurance become a much bigger deal for surveillance . I'd suggest having a look at industry suppliers of drone solutions are supplying as kits to customers. The needs for aerial survey vs point cloud modelling vs ndvi veg health vs asset inspection vs livestock management vs law enforcement/military vs whatever uses you can think of vary. I'm new to the commercial side of the drone game so take what I say with a grain of salt.

>> No.11851165

Question for the AMers, PPCers, bloggers etc :

I purchased a few domain, about health, weightloss, one about redpill theories to do something like therationalmale, in my native ( French ) language since there doesn't seem to be any blog on the subject, one to make money online etc .

But now I'm wondering, and hesitate between 2 business models. I want to provide value first, but I'm afraid once I'll implement affiliate offers, the quality will defacto decrease, and I'll lose the authority I made weeks/months to build

What's my options ? Create 4 blogs in the 4 niches I chose to cover providing real value to my audience with little advertising, very discrete AM to earn a little bit and then create 2/3 blogs in each niche with full on affiliate marketing strategy in place where I can somehow use the authority site built before ( probably though backlinks )to convert more sales

What do you guys think

>> No.11851182

>>11851165
>I want to provide value first
Don't, unless the value contributes to the sale.

There's really no reason for you to give away info for free; instead, provide active commentary on current events, as a way to siphon people's attention, and then present your product as something that'll help them in a related topic.

>> No.11851372

>>11840667
My area is middle/low-class and with a majority have some migration background so people are very superstitious.

>> No.11851552

>>11849803
I agree I do need to change my attitude

>> No.11851810

>>11839724
30 fucking dollars an hour in retail?

where the hell do you work? what country?

>> No.11851895

>>11851552
That is a whole lot of work all in itself.

>> No.11852101

>>11849734
Have you ever played runescape? The game is filled with bots that "play" the game and perform tasks to get items. People then sell those items for ingame currency, and then sell that currency for irl $. Diablo 2 is another game that comes to mind, although old.

>> No.11852306

>>11852101
That sounds like a very demanding market.

>> No.11852415

>>11851895
Yeah, my perception of reality is probably really negative/hopeless and warped. But it is still my perception even behind trying to delude into positive thinking. Genuinely shaking that is gonna be hard, I probably need to just taste 1% success to see that it is possible for myself, gotta get over the wall

>> No.11852422

>>11852415
On phone, that's why ID changed, if anyone even notices it

>> No.11852488

>>11837957
I published one book on kindle before, it was fiction and got literally no sales. It's all in marketing and having a platform.
I have several half-finished nonfiction books that I want to throw up there but the real bitch is the marketing. Social media trends are ridiculously fast, all of a sudden the old platforms will be uncool and you have to switch to a new one, and you have to post all the time to get attention, might get no attention at all.
Idk, it sucks man. It's like the only skill in life worth a shit was marketing all along.
Think I'm gonna try finishing them up anyway, at least then I could start like, idk are blogs still popular?
I love those shitty little pop nonfiction books, man.

>> No.11852517

>>11848375
I bought about 40 t-shirts for about $1 a shirt and it has a parody of Avengers design. Quality is pretty good. I could probably sell them for $20 each. Any ideas how or where to sell them?

>> No.11852564

>>11852517
etsy lmao or amazon

>> No.11852598

>>11842375
Living in Aus so $30 aud/hr, translates to around $21.75 usd/hr. Also get penalty rates on Sundays which makes it 45 aud/hr. Work at a liquor store with casual employment but I average 30+ hours each week. Good pay but the work is really not fulfilling. The company I work for also increases wages by .50c every 6 months due to some employee agreement laws so the pay gradually increases each year.

Honestly don't have any experience with maintaining any businesses. I've learned a lot from my parents with how they run their business though. But I feel like, at least in the beginning, I wouldn't need a designer as I'd be buying a pre-established Escape Room place. With marketing, I don't think it'd be that hard to promote it as my city is fairly small and a lot of stuff is spread through word of mouth here.

>>11851810
listed above