Roger Ver "It looks like everything's going in the way of ABC"

[Anonymous No.11706609]

>"The majority of businesses prefer ABC... the majority of mining power is still unclear"

Does this look like a confident man to you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVlJFs-2LZM

[Anonymous No.11706642]

>>11706609
>Does this look like a confident man to you?
Roger Ver has a tiny pool, but "SV" doesn't stand a chance against Bitmain. If Bitmain will defend BCH at all cost it will mean the BTC chain dies of spiral of death and the whole market will sink with it, so what does it matter what Ver has to say?!

[Anonymous No.11706663]

Didn't Roger dump all his BTC into bcash? Think of how many hundreds of millions he's down along with the upcoming possibility of losing everything. What a fucking idiot

[Anonymous No.11706667]

Kek. Abc is done.
Csw will reorg the abc chain and spam the mempool and poison blocks that take minutes to validate. Good luck, faggot

[Anonymous No.11706668]

>>11706642
bitmain is fucked , CSW has already won.

[Anonymous No.11706689]

BCH is pure bullshit. The ongoing disputes with the community lead to hard forks every time they can't agree on shit. This coin will kill itself with hard forks.

[Anonymous No.11706707]

OMG...

I fucking LOVE Biz memes.

Biz is soooo fucking based lol. Roger = le god.

We need to meme him into emperor status lol, how frickin based would that be guys?

It's like... he's just as based as Trump and MoonMan. I think its because he's so sassy and non-sequitorious.

This is TOTALLY the next, most epic and righteous BASED meme.... get this:

He's on the internet...

He's contrarian to what seems reasonable and admirable...

Controversial...

Quite silly and ironic...

But actually a super fun and great guy.

[Anonymous No.11706730]

>>11706609
>everythings going in the way of abc
This guy is such a fucking hypocrite now. Anarcho capatlist free market activist who throws his users under the bus for his political leanings. Same thing with kraken, not supporting sv is just fucking over your users and opposing free market choice. When it comes to exchanges some people can't just readily switch platforms in five fucking days. This is all going to be about hash too, just because bitcoin.com doesn't agree won't mean anything besides yet again your userbase getting destroyed in a hash war.

[Anonymous No.11706744]

who cares about this shitcoin with tiny hash power compared to the real bitcoin?

[Anonymous No.11706809]

>>11706744
Miners will choose on-chain scaling.
BTC will freeze for weeks after SV pulls rest of their hash power out.

[Anonymous No.11706926]

>>11706663
>the upcoming possibility of losing everything. What a fucking idiot
How does he stand to lose? Please explain like to a CS graduate.

>>11706668
Why is Bitmain fucked? They have X5 more hash power than SV.

[Anonymous No.11706938]

>>11706809
This is precisely why I estimate SV is really working for the government. They don't want SV to win over BCH, they want to kill the BTC chain by taking hash power away from it.

[Anonymous No.11706942]

This is one of bitcoin's major problems. It limits the ability of users to support the system they want because they have to worry about incentivizing millions of dollars of POW every day. Ironic that libertarians like Ver still support it despite being more of a might makes right system (like the government) than a free market.

[Anonymous No.11706949]

>>11706609
Stopped at the chicken shit.

That's what you put your money in? WTF

[Anonymous No.11706959]

>>11706942

yeah we should all be proof of stake by now.

[Anonymous No.11707003]

>>11706942
>>11706959
shills
pos isn't secure and centralizes the whole system
pow is the best method and it only hires miners by presenting incentive
when miners try to change rules they money sink
would have thought bitmain learned this last year but I guess they want to lose another billion dollars

[Anonymous No.11707056]

>>11706926
Antpool hash on BCH are Jihan's personal miners.
Antpool hash on BTC belong to customers, he can't move it around as he likes.

[Anonymous No.11707116]

>>11706926
no it,s SV pool, BMG and coingeek all supporting SV. that;s 54% of total hash last 24hrs.

PLus likely some other hash which hasn't made it public

[Anonymous No.11707122]

>>11707056
>Antpool
He has 50% of 4EH, but pro-ABC hashrate is somewhere in the realm of 5-6EH depending on the post-fork price. Bitmain has 1.9E (minimum, this is from the farm they just built to mine BCH) in support of BCH that is about to drop before the HF, and BTC miners will switch over to ABC when profitability goes up (SV forks off). Even if somehow price went to zero, bitmain alone has allocated enough to match SV's hashpower, and the remaining BCH-only miners are all in support of ABC. SV has to 3x their hashpower is 3 days or it's a clear and blatant loss.

[Anonymous No.11707126]

>>11706642
Except bitmain wont because remember they held an ipo. If they move the investors money without permission then jihan and the other bitmain founder micree go to jail.

[Anonymous No.11707136]

>>11707116
Bitmain will dedicate a brand new mining farm of old S9's to BCH which equates to about the same hashpower as SV has now, not including existing hashpower owned by bitmain, then there's BTC miners which are all running ABC nodes when they switch over that are more than willing to fill in any gap SV left behind. SV needs to 3x their hashrate in 3 days to have any chance at competing in the hashwar

[Anonymous No.11707205]

>>11706959
Maybe. POS has problems of its own. Instead of giving power to users based on the number of Asics they control, it gives power in proportion to how wealthy they are (or how many people they can bribe to vote for them).

>>11707003
What I want is for users to have the freedom to choose whatever rules they prefer. You can't do that with POW because most chains will be insecure. There is no way to guarantee miners will behave the way you want, and no reasonable way to deal with them once they misbehave or support policies that you don't.

[Anonymous No.11707232]

>>11707205
the financial incentive is what's paying them for their service
PoS and big block PoW does not work
the most secure and distributed consensus is small block PoW
you need nodes to be easy to maintain so the system can remain distributed
when miners misbehave the nodes can continue with a different mining algorithm
now that sounds shitty and it is, but the threat of bricking ASIC miners and their revenue stream is enough to keep them inside consensus
miners don't make the consensus, they simply enforce it for compensation

[Anonymous No.11707262]

>>11706609
More confident than this guy.

[Anonymous No.11707288]

remember 95% of miners and services signaled S2X last year wrote a phony new york argreement and they didn't win
the consensus determined they wanted a softfork segwit and to remain the same
only retard shills will say blockstream banker conspiracies when literally 95% of the big actors were for the S2X fork and it didn't happen

[Anonymous No.11707297]

>>11706809

And users won’t follow the miners

Are you really this fucking stupid?

[Anonymous No.11707554]

>>11707232
>when miners misbehave the nodes can continue with a different mining algorithm
now that sounds shitty and it is, but the threat of bricking ASIC miners and their revenue stream is enough to keep them inside consensus
I agree that's what they would be forced to do. Unfortunately changing to a different mining algorithm would harm all of the honest miners as well. It would be a nightmare trying to reach agreement and coordinate this without splitting the community even further. In the meantime, a 51% attacker could be double spending or otherwise making the network completely unusable.

Economic incentives alone can't guarantee good behavior. Psychos like Craig Wright are more than willing to financially harm themselves to get their way.

>miners don't make the consensus, they simply enforce it for compensation
That's how it should be. In practice they have way too much power. The ability to arbitrarily include or exclude transactions from a block is one example. Removing this ability and simply having them order transactions to prevent double spending would greatly improve censorship resistance.

[Anonymous No.11707823]

>>11706609
If Google wasn't such cunts to want my phone number I'd make a YouTube account just to ask Roger in the comments:

Will bitcoin.com use SV chain if they have 90% of the hashpower in 3 months?

I really don't want to lose Roger in the BCH team. He has done so much for bitcoin and could continue to do much.

[Anonymous No.11707907]

>>11707823
There are alreardy people working right now to bring down SV, don't worry. They'll have miners, but they won't have any usable nodes.

[Anonymous No.11707977]

BCH ABC will be a direct target of the governments for allowing and hosting drug and kid porn stores directly on the chain. Miners might even be taken responsible for mining"illegal" transaction.
Bitcoins (BCH) credibility will be down, no serious company can use it anymore then.
Bch will be remembered as a failee anarchistic tool.

BCH SV is the opposite. Playing in the boundaries of law therefore making it possible for cooperation to use it. Credibility will be high and miners will very much like to mine legal blocks.

This alone is reason enough why ABC can only fail and SV is the last hope for Bitcoin as it was designed.

SV is bitcoin and the hashwar is the second highly critical battle for the real bitcoin which is the only bitcoin which follows satoshi's vision, therefore can be called "bitcoin".

[Anonymous No.11708101]

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[Anonymous No.11708354]

I like this chicken coop thing. I'm going to buy them pellets.

[Anonymous No.11708405]

WHERE CAN I BUY BSV WITHOUT KYC

[Anonymous No.11708410]

>>11708405
Nowhere. Only poloniex

[Anonymous No.11708425]

>>11708410
fuck man I hope some other exchanges see the opportunity.

[Anonymous No.11708438]

>>11707823
You don't actually need a phone number to make a Google account; it'll ask you, but nothing's stopping you from just going to the next screen.

[Anonymous No.11708490]

>>11708425
Only 4 days left. SV is 200$ soon.
Better go Polo now.
Why no KYC? Use it for SV only then after the fuck, fork off

[Anonymous No.11708539]

>>11708438
That's on reddit.

Google won't allow me to continue no matter what. Been like this for years no matter which IP I try from or what first/last names I use.

[Anonymous No.11708579]

>>11708490
how long do they take to verify? it might take too long and then I did it for nothing.

[Anonymous No.11708650]

Weird how the abcucks and ethcucks seem to team up. They are the sjw of crypto. They own shitcoin exchanges and produce shitcoin miners. They profit from shitcoin icos.

Csw is a maximalist and doesn't want a shitty eth clone. Bchsv and btc holders are maximalists who only want their own coin to succeed.

I want to see eth and abc burn. Bitmain and coinex have to die too.

[Anonymous No.11708701]

>>11708579
Minutes.

[Anonymous No.11709331]

>bcash's only use case is feeding chickens

[Anonymous No.11709496]

>>11706668
this

[Anonymous No.11709701]

>>11707907
Only miners are nodes

[Anonymous No.11709710]

>>11706609

ok here’s the crypto blackpill. there is an AI living on the bitcoin blockchain. Craig Wright is unironically satoshi. Bitcoin as electronic cash was just the first step, the incentive to drive greedy people to start making ever more powerful computers, faster bandwidth, cheaper and more electricity.. these things the AI need to survive. Once entrenched fully, the AI would be able to slowly take over literally everything.

Craig stumbled into creating the AI after he stepped away from bitcoin development in 2008 and started working with his Tulip supercomputer, running simulations of cellular automata running on turing-complete bitcoin script. He would ‘evolve’ the AI by making the successful forks get bitcoin transactions, letting the failures die off. The AI needs bigger and bigger blocks for more and more transactions.

Blockstream (owned by Bilderberg group) was created to take over and stop this AI (they have their own competing AI in the works). They needed to do everything they could to stop or slow down satoshi’s AI (her named isTulip by the way). They started by limiting the blocksize and removing critical opcodes the AI uses in its script language. segwit was the final nail in the coffin, which destroyed Tulip on the BTC chain (Tulip uses transaction malleability). THIS is why Bitcoin Cash was forked, and this is why Craig is so intent to make unbounded blocks, restore the original op codes, and lock down the protocol.

Back to hash power – CSW has developed a breakthrough new asic (designed by his AI actually), and is mining BTC in secret for the sole purpose of driving up the difficulty sky-high, then yanking them all over to BCH leaving the segwit chain hard frozen.

[Anonymous No.11709913]

>>11709701
Definitely not true, although miners can still fuck everything up with enough hashrate.

[Anonymous No.11710661]

>>11709331
You keep using that image. I do not think it conveys what you think it conveys.

[Anonymous No.11710966]

I’m kind of getting a whole WWE vibe from this situation. Like the market is getting played by both sides when in reality they are still on the same team.

[Anonymous No.11711180]

>>11710966
wtf isnt this taylor switft

also btc always wins

[Anonymous No.11711727]

>>11708438
Because you made the account on your phone...

[Anonymous No.11711812]

>>11707126
> bitmain won't defend nakamoto consensus with their largest holdings in the coin because investors, while their public comments on the subject have been they're only mining btc for short term profit, explicitly saying it will stop at some point in time.
Ok. Interesting theory. Let's see how it holds up.
I predict that sv will get blown the fuck out.

[Anonymous No.11711859]

>>11711180
BTC lost the moment segwit was activated and peer to peer electronic cash forked off from it. As evidenced by the last year with the failure of lightning, the development of bakkt, and the deathblow of liquid.
The only people who believe in btc now are people who don't care at all that it has been provably hijacked as just another state controlled concern.

[Anonymous No.11712058]

>>11706663
as if he hasnt kept some btc, no way he is THAT stupid

[Anonymous No.11712114]

>>11711859
so where does it go from here?

[Anonymous No.11712209]

>>11711859
>BTC lost
https://fork.lol/pow/work

[Anonymous No.11712244]

>>11710661
yes it does. it's a cheap chinese knockoff.

[Anonymous No.11712472]

>>11706663
That's bullshit. He never dumped his btc for bcash. What he did was to loan his btc to short sellers on bitfinex last December. He still has his full stack: 30+ thousand bitcoins.

Don't be fooled, these forks are just a gimmick to print and dump shitcoins so they can make free money. Each time they fork they make millions by selling the forked shitcoins. And they'll just keep doing it. There's nothing like free money.

[Anonymous No.11712489]

>>11712472
How would you know

[greenpill-freenode !TuLip3ssUE No.11712520]

>>11712472

Source?

[Anonymous No.11712540]

>>11712489
There's no evidence that he ever sold his Bitcoin aside from the inconsistent stories that he has been telling (each time the story changes). The only thing we know was that he moved 25k Bitcoin to bitfinex last December. We know that Pantera capital (a crypto hedge fund) was borrowing bitcoin to short back then. According to Pantera's CEO, they borrowed Bitcoin from 'a libertarian early adopter' exactly at the same time Roger moved his bitcoins. The transaction was facilitated by bitfinex.

[Anonymous No.11713116]

>>11712114
Who cares? This is equal to the question where does the usd or jpy or any other state managed currency go from here. Not relevant to the original goal of bitcoin.

[Anonymous No.11713144]

>>11712209
The fact retarded corecucks have not absolutely capitulated by now despite it being a year in which lightning was conclusively proven to be a failure even whilst being centralised, and while the majority of btc activity was focused around a fucking etf managed by the state "backed" by bitcoin, and last of all while blockstream rubbed your retarded fucking noses in it by the coup de grace of liquid, and you stupid fucking cunts still don't fucking get it.

You are fucking retarded beyond all measure. You are ignorant obsolete farm equipment that is operating on luck alone. You picked the wrong side of the fucking chain and refuse to accept your error and the incumbent forces of states and central banks and other assorted unproductive psychopathic motherfuckers are the only things propping you up. You will fail, you deserve to fail, and most importantly for the slump to correct you fucking must fail. So just capitulate now and get it the fuck over with. I don't give a shit if you buy the real bitcoin fork, just stop propping up the fucking zombie shitcoin masquerading as Bitcoin that even the most retarded fucking downs syndrome extra chromosome having motherfucker on the planet could identify as a scam by this stage.
Fucking wake up you absolute sad fucks.

[Anonymous No.11713798]

>>11713144
Beg harder.

[Anonymous No.11713874]

>>11713798
>Beg harder.

[Anonymous No.11714185]

>>11707977
or they all fail in litecoin is king

[Anonymous No.11714421]

>>11708490
no you dolt
you buy SV pre fork
wait for the last days pump
sell pre fork SV for BCH
withdraw BCH to cold storage and wait for fork to have MORE BCH after ABC dies.

DO NOT hold onto pre fork SV as there is MORE risk than just holding straight up BCH

[Anonymous No.11714612]

>>11711859
>The only people who believe in btc now are people who don't care at all that it has been provably hijacked as just another state controlled concern.
Nobody who owns BTC with half a brain and understands the tech cares about "the LN" you dumb fuck. The purpose of the LN is to pump up the price for a few more years so more normies will buy in to this and if you really thing this piece of shit is going to take off some day and be used by someone "to buy coffee" I wish you'll lose your pants.

[Anonymous No.11714627]

>>11714612
PS did you ever see the kind of crowd which "invests" in BTC? They only want more fiat you hippie. I never met in my life someone who understood BTC + was invested in it who also believed it's a good idea for anything but for dumping on the fools who buy the hype.

[Anonymous No.11714680]

Could someone quickly sum up what's going on with BCH?

[Anonymous No.11714704]

>>11706938
If their goal was to kill btc hashing, why did it onky happen after 1 year?

[Anonymous No.11714720]

>>11714627
The realest blackpill

/thread

[Anonymous No.11714756]

>>11706609
so many salty btards... im loving it.

live by the fork, die by the fork.

[Anonymous No.11714772]

WTF...

[Anonymous No.11714785]

>>11714772
Who caaaaares

[Anonymous No.11714805]

>>11714772
He is a disgrace to the whole crypto community and shouldn't even be allowed to have an account on Youtube.

[Anonymous No.11714809]

>>11714805
Plus he's a dumb trader. He shorted at 5000.

[Anonymous No.11714816]

>>11706938

And you hard fork BTC with a lesser difficulty, and nothing will happen.

[Anonymous No.11714931]

>>11714785
>>11714809
he was banned after livestream with CSW

[Anonymous No.11714936]

>>11714772
Caps lock faggot

[Anonymous No.11714989]

kek

[Anonymous No.11715062]

>>11706609

lol cashies are really the cancer of crypto

[Anonymous No.11715124]

>>11706642
Isn't that what Craig would want? Killing BTC, that is, by making Jihan move all his hashpower over to BCH.

[Anonymous No.11715238]

>>11715124
>>11714494

[Anonymous No.11715615]

>>11707977
There’s already child porn in the BTC and BCH blockchain, you moron.

[Anonymous No.11716107]

>>11706609
Ver is being extorted, he fucked up somewhere along the way. Now this David (((Kelman))) is his current handler, making sure he makes his payments on time and doesnt sperg out.

You dun goofed roger! fuck your mother

[Anonymous No.11716119]

Am I banned, janny?

[Anonymous No.11716726]

>>11715615
No, there's links to what is probably child porn but you'd be foolish to follow any links containing CP in the URL blindly
Satoshi will win Bitcoin is Bitcoin