The Nootropics Thread

[Anonymous No.11452647]

Because we need one.

From my years of experience in crypto related communities I know you're all a bunch of druggies and/or steroid users.

The drugs at hand we need to discuss relevant to biz are nootropics. Shit that'll help you make that money. Share your favorite stack here. Biological formulas or synthetic.

To start:
I use pic related for better trading results. I think I've had enough people try it to rule out a placebo effect. I tried Onnit's Alpha Brain and liked it but didn't find it cost efficient. Modafinil makes me angry for reasons unkown to me.

[Anonymous No.11453014]

>>11452647
Yo modaf makes me mad too I had to curb it

[Anonymous No.11453020]

20m adderall + a few cofees and monsters since last week has been effective but now I'm just not focusing hard enough, still major improvement over regular functioning

Just got some modafinil.... about to try that shit
microdosed on lsd a couple weeks prior to the aderal... (just taking like 1/5 in the morning)... was improvement over normal and was a little more happier but not what i need in regards to getting stuff done about to up my dose on the add

[Anonymous No.11453038]

>>11453020
You might have drug induced brain damage.

[Anonymous No.11453039]

>>11452647
I use PhenylGABA. Every thread I post about Phenibut in, somebody chimes in about the withdrawals. For me so far the benefits outweigh the negatives.

[Anonymous No.11453066]

>>11453039
Phenibut is primo, unlike those big Jewish pharma tabs. It should be consumed periodically, 20 days on, 20 days off

[Anonymous No.11453067]

>>11452647
unironically black tea with milk and sugar

[Anonymous No.11453107]

>>11453014
Just took 200mg moda and drank 3 cups of coffee. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.11453120]

>>11453039
>>11453066
>>11453020
I like how I can keep on using these without side effects and they don't contain any of the bullshit other "Natural" supplements have. Also they didn't save on Alpha GPC which the other companies do. Benzo derivatives fuck up my brain chemistry. Only use them occasionally to force sleep.

You should check it out desu I think they do full refunds and shipping is like 5 bucks.

https://www.sapienslabs.io

[Anonymous No.11453121]

Got some phenylpiracetam too, may have to take some of that. the taste is fucking awful though and that stuff DOES make me angry.

[Anonymous No.11453133]

i have a neato vape pen that takes thc concentrate that i can smoke on my way home from work! :D

Its very discrete and clean! All I have to do is put some concentrate on there and pow I have odorless thc vapor. My car doesn't smell, I don't have to carry a grinder, rolling papers and weed anymore, its very convenient that I can just keep it in my bag.

[Anonymous No.11453145]

>>11452647

i vape amnesia haze at 200celcius

this gives me the perfect and most stable high to focus with literally anything. i always trade/code with this

[Anonymous No.11453180]

>>11453133
>>11453145
I supplement with thc as well to temper down the ADHD and add that touch of hyperfocus.

Bad side of thc is too much and the mind starts too wander.

[Anonymous No.11453211]

Genius Mushrooms, Lions mane.

[Anonymous No.11453212]

>>11453180
A lot of the edgy peculiar feelings while too high on THC can usually be curbed by a dose of cbd.

[Anonymous No.11453221]

Are you people fucking retarded? What is the point of using any of this shit? If you can't focus that means your head isn't in it anyway because you're not even interested deep down in tech or making money. You don't belong in this and weird drugs that make you falsely feel like you're switched on aren't the trick. If you don't have an actual interest in this and you don't even understand tech this does fucking nothing.

Unless you have to pull yourself away from reading articles and researching all day without using any drugs other than 2-3 coffees a day you're not going to make it and should just go back to your wagecage.

[Anonymous No.11453251]

>>11453221

ive made alot more profit while being high then being sober.

Why should I change something that works?

[Anonymous No.11453256]

>>11453211
I like this for general health but didn't notice much cognitive benefits for the cost of it.
>>11453212
That's true. I find the rhodiola rosea in the nootropics helps with the stress as well.
>>11453221
You sir, need to learn more about basic brain chemistry before posting in here.

[Anonymous No.11453262]

>>11453221
>He never tried modafinil.
I do agree though, these things should only be taken on occasion. You build a tolerance and they become useless otherwise anyway.

[Anonymous No.11453298]

>>11453221
t. Eric Olszewski

[Anonymous No.11453334]

>>11453262
I find this only applies to the "Research Chemical" side of the nootropics market. Especially moda.

[Anonymous No.11453373]

>>11453221
>daily reminder pro gamers (the ones actually getting paid for what they do) pop adderall regularly https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/gvy7b3/counter-strike-esports-pro-we-were-all-on-adderall
Besides, drugs are fun.

[Anonymous No.11453387]

>>11453334
Moda definitely. I find if I take it for 2 days, then have a 4 day break it is much more noticeable.
Phenylpiracetam you can only really take once a week to feel any effect.

[Anonymous No.11453399]

>>11453038
Yeah I was into this shit when I was twenty but just completely stopped when I realised the negative risks totally outweighed the positives.

[Anonymous No.11453425]

>>11453387
That's what I dislike about it. Makes me feel off in all sorts of ways. I'd rather contribute to my health and have the cognitive benefits simultaneously.

I've been using these sapiens capsules daily for weeks and if anything they made me less jittery.I couldn't do a week on moda and having "on" and "off" days productivity wise seems counterproductive over the longer timeframes to me.

[Anonymous No.11453464]

>>11453425
Can you link me to the caps please m8? I know what you mean, I notice an edgy, almost paranoid feeling with moda at times. I try to limit it to time when I am alone.

[Anonymous No.11453516]

>>11453464
I used to take Alpha Brain by Onnit and switched to these a few weeks ago. Do find it a lot better and a fuckload cheaper holy shit those multilevel marketing prices.

https://www.sapienslabs.io/

[Anonymous No.11453529]

>>11452647
Daily reminder nootropics are 90% placebo and meme tier bull shit shilled as the Limitless pill.

Go to the doc and get an actual drug that works instead of choosing diff. jootropics for your fantasy stack.
>t. Adderall IR master race checking in that has fucked with many diff. nootropics before

[Anonymous No.11453554]

>>11453516
>kek
Thanks fren
>>11453529
>placebo
I take it you have never stayed up all night and taken moda?

[Anonymous No.11453857]

>>11453554
Made this thread to share knowledge. They even have some independent research for all the haters in here:
https://www.sapienslabs.io/pages/science-independent-research
I wonder if you could potentiate i.e. modafinil with these as well due to the alpha gpc content and biovailability rising while countering side effects. Have yet to try myself.

I like Joe Rogan's podcast and onnit products are mostly good but way too expensive.

I was hoping for people with piracetam experience as well to post their findings.

[Anonymous No.11453901]

I haven't messed with noots in a long time, but the best one I ever tried was Phenylpiracetam. Wayyyy better than the other racetams I tried, gave me hella focus. Kinda want to order some now just thinking about it. The downsides from what I remember was that tolerance seemed to build quickly so it was viable as a once or twice a week thing rather than every day.

[Anonymous No.11453999]

>>11453901
Will need to look into that more, thanks. Experience any restlessness or agitation issues?

[Anonymous No.11454050]

>>11453516
Stop shilling your shitty site. We all know u get a commission,

[Anonymous No.11454064]

I got Bupropion pills but they fried my brain completely.

[Anonymous No.11454089]

Literally spend a year researching nootropics, the only ones i can recommend:

NAC !!!
Lions Mane
LSD- Microdoses
Amphetamines
Sulphorafan
BPC-157
Curcumin
Tyrosine
Coffeine
l-theanine
Carnitin

[Anonymous No.11454177]

>>11454050
Someone literally asked for a direct link neb I'm not affiliated I swallow them.

https://www.onnit.com/alphabrain/ Here's another link to nootropics I mentioned.

If you tried anything feel free to share it as well? it's not shitcoin bags we're talking here.

>>11454089
That's quite a list. Anything specific you'd recommend?

[Anonymous No.11454660]

I take lions mane and Bacopa monnierri which are both long term kickers. You notice effects after about 1.5-2 months and they continue to get stronger

[Anonymous No.11454708]

>>11454660
>>11453211
>>11454089

Didn't think lion's mane was so well known desu. Reminded my to take my extract.

I like reishi and chaga mushrooms too for their own uses but not so much cognitive perse.

[Anonymous No.11454736]

Brains have a cheat mechanism... every time you try and cheat to achieve a positive effect, it will remember and subtract it at a later point x2.

[Anonymous No.11454750]

>>11452647
>a bunch of druggies and/or steroid users
May I inquire as to why you felt the need to make that distinction?

[Anonymous No.11454808]

Took 100mg modafinil today, had 2 coffees and vaped.

Most productive fucking day in a LONG time. Automated a shitload of manual work that I do, cleared a bunch of backlog and now I'm gonna chill and read an entire book front to cover.

[Anonymous No.11454898]

>>11454808
WTF dude, are you me?
Took 150 mg modafinil today, had 3 coffees and vaped.
Most productive fucking day in a VERY LONG time. Automated a shotload of manual work that I do, cleared a bunch of backlog and now I'm gonna chill and read one and a half book.

[Anonymous No.11454980]

Posting in a drug thread on /biz/. HIFFWE.

[Anonymous No.11454994]

Piracetam and oxiracetam are pretty good for memory and attention. Just make sure to supplement with choline

[Anonymous No.11455004]

Also stay away from Adderall unless its like once every few months. It's literally speed

[Anonymous No.11455076]

>>11453554
Got somethin fo ya buddy

[Anonymous No.11455081]

lol I work on wall st as a cold caller, my boss and coworkers are constantly hooked on adderall, coffee and JUUL. I used to be the same, but worried about my health. Now it's been 4 months without and I can wake up at 3am no coffee no vpe no nothing just protein mixed with oats and I'm good as I was before with no drop untill I'm naturally tired or bored

[Anonymous No.11455091]

>>11455076

[Anonymous No.11455106]

But..... I'm too scared to take anything to get a boost, so are there any natural and non caffeine or drug related one that I can take to improve focous? I have a hard time sitting my ass down and studying

[Anonymous No.11455194]

I hope you guys all drink Bulletproof Coffee™? Gotta stay ahead of those filthy brain non-hackers, am I right?

[Anonymous No.11455848]

>>11452647

command f - no ashwaghanda

Okay anons, if you have anxiety or depression check out ashwagandha.

Indians have been using for 3000 years, just recently have there been peer reviewed studies on it. I've almost finished a bottle and my anxiety has dropped significantly. I've seen a slow down in a receding hairline as well.

Take 300mg of KSM-66 ashwaghanda in the morning and another 300mg in the evening.

Only precation is if you have thyroid issues.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3573577/

[Anonymous No.11455936]

>>11454980
Kirt is a pedophile

[Anonymous No.11455992]

>>11454177
u linked it like 10 times lol

[Anonymous No.11456008]

Semax

Shit has made a definite improvement to my performance day to day, persisting even after 10 days off

[Anonymous No.11456131]

>>11455848
Reviving this went afk. This reminds me of albizia or rhodiola somewhat?

[Anonymous No.11456195]

Are premixed blends any good? I've been wanting to check one called "Quantuummind" I think, but not sure how they compare to individual noots taken at once.

Stack just ran out but normally use 600mg Oxiracetam, ~500mg L-Alpha GPC, and 10-15mg Noopept. Very new to noots and not sure which to try next. Thinking phenylpiracetam, cerebrolysin, adrafinil maybe, 5HTP, and piracetam

[Anonymous No.11456215]

I didnt know half these compounds thanks anons this is a welcome relief.

[Anonymous No.11456216]

>>11456131

Rhodiola seems to be in the same class of adaptogenic herbs. Also comes in pill form.

The symptoms that it works for seem very simular. Users also take them concurrently.

[Anonymous No.11456229]

>>11456195
>cerebrolysin
Why would you take this unless you have dementia or alzheimers?

[Anonymous No.11456238]

>>11456195
Can't believe I forgot to clarify - also on Adderall, mainly used on my days off, 10mg in morning, 5mg every 3 hours or so until 7-10

>>11456229
I've read good general neuroprotective and cognitive benefits from it; is there some risk inherent in taking if you don't have 'em? Maybe I'll just get it for Grandm's then

[Anonymous No.11456251]

>>11456216
That confirms my suspicions about my anxiety being less. Thanks. I've been experimenting with Albizia but it makes me sleep weird and very light.I'll stick to this one with rhodiola.

>>11456195
I like really like em for convienience and quality control. I compared ordering compounds seperately but I haven't a big price difference myself. Could depend on sources though.

>>11456008
Haven't heard from this before will read up thanks.

[Anonymous No.11456255]

>>11452647
40mg Vyvanse and u'll b set

[Anonymous No.11456297]

>>11456238
I don't know if there are side affects or risks. The idea of taking drugs that are made for specific conditions in the hope they make you slightly more focused or give you a slightly enhanced memory doesn't make sense to me. You're trying to rewrite the chemistry in your brain for conditions you don't have, I don't see how you're going to get much benefits and in my mind likely to cause problems for yourself since you don't have the conditions it's made for. It's like taking SSRI's when you're not depressed.

[Anonymous No.11456333]

Oh hey I use these too lol I like them. Tried omnimind before and IT didn't do shit.

[Anonymous No.11456353]

>>11456297
This is what me makes me want to stick to fda approved natural stuff over some Chinese chemicals ordered online.

[Anonymous No.11456361]

>>11454089
Could you comment on bpc 157?

[Anonymous No.11456402]

>>11456361
https://examine.com/supplements/bpc-157/

>>11456255
I found that I strongly dislike the side effects of any adhd medication even though I do have adhd.

>>11456353
I'm with you on this but mostly because I didn't even find them to work better so far considering the sides.

[Anonymous No.11456538]

>>11455106
I feel like this too but Im temped to try the phenylpiracetam. Not too much long term research available though.

[Anonymous No.11456942]

>>11456353
>fda approved means it's safe
My sweet summer child, you missed my entire point and made it into something it wasn't. You have to be 18 to post here.

[Anonymous No.11457318]

>>11452647

nootropics are shit and can trigger psychosis/schyzophrenia you dump fuck

[Anonymous No.11457347]

>>11453066
No, don’t take phenibut for 20 straight days,

Dipshit.

[Anonymous No.11457357]

>>11453212
Seconded, low dose cbd with adderall is a lovely combination, just make sure to stay hydrated,

[Anonymous No.11457365]

>>11453221
Reeeee!!!!

Stop managing your brain chemistry differently than I manage my brain chemistry,

Faggot.

[Anonymous No.11458352]

i tried a lot of noots/supplements and i haven't noticed any change at all from any of them, any idea why?

moda
armoda
nsi-189
piracetam/oxiracetam/aniracetam/noopept
phenibut upwards of 2g
coffee/caffeine+l-theanine
energy drinks
alcar
lions mane / cordyceps
NAC
ksm-66 ashwaghanda / rhodiola rosea
b vitamins / magnesium etc

the only thing i felt in ANY way was alpha gpc because it made my brain feel like it was burning, in a bad way.

[Anonymous No.11458383]

>>11453039
I have GABA, but anytime I take it before bed I wake up 3 or 4 times because of crazy intense dreams. Do you take it in the morning or what?

[Anonymous No.11458773]

Thoughts on phenibut?

[Anonymous No.11459886]

When the kratom and phenibut kick in

[Anonymous No.11459918]

>>11459886
>kratom package got lost in the mail and never arrived
>had to cope with withdrawals using phenibut

Phenibut is kinda shitty desu, I don't feel drunk at all despite taking like 3.5g and it gives me pain in my femurs, also causes headaches

[Anonymous No.11460215]

>>11459886
barely literate brainlet reporting in. know nothing about nootropics & cba reading this thread but have just decided to now get on the kratom gains because I've heard of it before and now seen you mention it. fanks frens

[Anonymous No.11460372]

>>11453067
This but no sugar.

[Anonymous No.11460558]

>>11453020
Bro in the states it's nearly impossible to get pharmaceutical quality LSD, please be careful and consider it might not be helpful due to the quality and in-fact inflict negative damage.

[Anonymous No.11460570]

Literally so simple, anons. https://ModafinilMart.com