belgian crypto mellionaire student who doesnt wanna pay 33% tax

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belgian crypto mellionaire student who doesnt wanna pay 33% tax Anonymous Fri Sep 28 22:48:23 2018 No.11244896 [Reply] [Original]

wut do?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 28 22:49:58 2018 No.11244907 me paying 33% on my income is basically getting stolen 33% of my net worth, they're literally stealing the price of growing up a couple of kids for political bullshit & shite quality education that only ruined my life instead of better it

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 28 23:03:55 2018 No.11245004 >>11244896 >>11244907 >claims to be crypto millionaire >too dumb to figure out how to cash out i am suspicious

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 28 23:08:41 2018 No.11245041 >>11244907 you got so much money for doing nothing pussy bitch, pay the tax instead of living your life in fear and blaming your country for how sad and boring you are

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 28 23:13:29 2018 No.11245077 >>11244896 use the crypto to buy gold

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 28 23:20:11 2018 No.11245135 Leave pussy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 28 23:21:11 2018 No.11245144 >>11245077 physical gold? thought about that

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 28 23:21:29 2018 No.11245145 >>11245041 Fuck that we took the risk of investing in meme internet money

Anonymous Fri Sep 28 23:24:04 2018 No.11245166

>>11245145
that is bullshit reasoning, I work hard for my other money but I still pay taxes on it.
Im not saying everybody be a goody 2 shoes but this faggot has an easy $1mil. Unless you are fucking stupid with money that's a great start to life, this dude is luckier than 99.9% of people but he's still a miserable faggot irl I gurantee

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 28 23:24:57 2018 No.11245174 >>11244896 just move to thailand permanently

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 28 23:36:51 2018 No.11245254 >>11245077 how do i buy physical gold for bitcoin that isn't going to raise a question with fiscus

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 28 23:42:12 2018 No.11245286 >>11244896 zoomers detected. pay your tax and be thankful that you live in a country that works. the state is no stealing anything, so far you have been "stealing" from the state all your life.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 28 23:42:19 2018 No.11245287 >>11245254 Just go to apmex and buy it there with your bitcoin, they ship internationally

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 28 23:42:58 2018 No.11245290 >>11245174 Another, less exotic option, is New Zealand. 0 tax on crypto, and a comfy western country.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 28 23:43:16 2018 No.11245293 >>11245286 fuck that, the state never gave me anything, I coudn't even get food stamps when I was unemployed and need groceries because I was white. fuck the state, ancap for life

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 28 23:44:48 2018 No.11245302 >>11245166 No one should have to pay taxes you statist dumb fuck. You are both victims.

Anonymous Sat Sep 29 00:04:25 2018 No.11245435
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>>11245286
like seriously, I get so fucking triggered when I see these comments. I was homeschooled, so my parents had to pay the state for an education that they did not consent too or even use; I never got any state benefits when I was broke working jobs to pay my way through college; and I shell out tons of money in plate taxes each year which are suppose to go to the fucking roads (you know that thing that could never exist in a libertarian society) but despite all those taxes the roads are absolute and utter shit with potholes and cracks everywhere.
all you state groveling bootlickers need to be thrown from helicopters ASAP

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 03:05:05 2018 No.11246334 >>11245290 Lmao nope, had to pay tax on all my cash outs last year

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 03:30:01 2018 No.11246474 >>11244896 Move to Switzerland

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 03:38:53 2018 No.11246533 >>11244896 dude hoe oud ben? verhuis gewoon een jaar naar malta, cash daar out, of ga naar een boekhouder, normaal gwn 1-2jaar niet aan je geld komen, versluis wat zodat je kan rondkomen en dan kan je belstingsvrij uitcashen!

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 04:21:40 2018 No.11246723 And remember you need to pay 33% tax on every transaction you ever done, unless you were hodling with 1 coin from the beginning.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 04:25:09 2018 No.11246739 >>11246723 a trade of 0.1 -> 0.5 -> 1 @ 33% each is no difference than 0.1 -> 1 @ 33%

Anonymous Sat Sep 29 05:33:19 2018 No.11247018

>>11244896
I assume you have to pay tax even if you leave Belgium? It's like that in my country in Northern Europe. If not, then just hold until you can move to a country with zero/low taxes on crypto gains. If you want to invest the money (stocks/property) or buy anything expensive in the future then you'll have to pay taxes (tax authorities will 100% find out about it if you don't). If you've made millions then just pay a couple of hundred bucks for a good tax lawyer/accountant to help you out. That's what I did. 100% worth it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 05:35:32 2018 No.11247026 >>11244896 betaal je belastingen

Anonymous Sat Sep 29 06:18:13 2018 No.11247224
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>>11245166
Those taxes let you get clean running water... oh wait you pay for that seperately.
B-but those taxes fund the roads you driv- oh road tax is a thing.
The school you atten- didn't teach you jack shit about how the world actually works and memed you into 40k's worth of degree debt because you had no guidance with what the fuck to do.
Eh, guess I'll die.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 06:24:39 2018 No.11247248 >>11246739 Yeah but that million didnt come overnight. Op had to fill tax report every year but he did not, basically hes fucked.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 06:26:48 2018 No.11247257 >>11244896 Just keep your bitcoin longer than one year no taxes

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 06:30:18 2018 No.11247273 >>11247257 You know thats a meme right?

Anonymous Sat Sep 29 06:30:41 2018 No.11247277

>>11245166
>>11247224

Pretty much what the second anon said. I am paying for the roads/ water/ elec already anyways.Hell i m paying for a billion other things too.I never attended a public school, never used a public hospital and never will , and when something goes awfully wrong and i m forced to use public transport i m paying for that shity service anyways. So yeah fuck you and your income tax.You want me to pay for nigger and immigrants gibmedats and i aint having it.

Anonymous Sat Sep 29 06:37:43 2018 No.11247301

>>11247273
Bitcoins niet-speculatief

We dienen een onderscheid te maken tussen speculatief en niet-speculatief. Wie (al dan niet uit pure nieuwsgierigheid) bitcoins kocht en deze voor lange tijd heeft behouden is niet zozeer speculatief bezig met Bitcoin handel. Een begrip dat vaak voorkomt is ‘het handelen als een goede huisvader’. Wie dus bitcoins kocht en na een jaar met winst heeft verkocht, hoeft in principe weinig te vrezen.

Nope. Just HODL

Anonymous Sat Sep 29 06:59:46 2018 No.11247386
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>>11245041
>>11245286
>>11245166
>these people are ok with getting their money stolen from them in order to pay for illegals, niggers, muslims, shitty marxist education, single mothers, shitty fighter jets, and politician's paychecks
Honestly if my tax money went towards better infrastructure, space, and savings maybe I wouldn't be so antagonistic towards taxes. But the reality still stands: TAXATION IS THEFT

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 07:02:18 2018 No.11247396 >>11247301 Okay get in trouble

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 07:02:28 2018 No.11247397 >>11245041 >>11245166 >>11245286 T.kike

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 07:04:09 2018 No.11247407 >>11244896 you can afford it who cares? your protected from plebs

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 07:05:00 2018 No.11247409 >>11247396 Cashed ou 220k straight to my bank account in december Held since 2013 in private key Send the cops faggot

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 07:05:11 2018 No.11247412 >>11247386 Okay dodge taxes and see where it gets you

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 07:05:45 2018 No.11247415 >>11247412 If the Elite can do it so can I

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 07:06:12 2018 No.11247419 >>11247409 Bank account? Well they're probably preparing their case already. Lawyer up

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 07:07:31 2018 No.11247426 >>11247412 >>11247419 Also I quit my job to be able to finish my education so I don't pay taxes anymore

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 07:10:37 2018 No.11247449 >>11247419 >>11247419 Yeah these things usually last 10 months lmao This ain't the US. I can understand why you jelly tho but I'm going to trust the law over some random butthurt faggot on the internet

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 07:13:12 2018 No.11247462 >>11247415 the "Elite" means billionaires with direct connections to politicians, not a pleb NEET with $1 million that still lives with mommy

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 07:13:49 2018 No.11247464 van deze draad is akte gemaakt en kopie verstuurd naar de nodige instanties. Bedankt voor de medewerking.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 07:14:00 2018 No.11247465 >>11244896 Capital gains tax is a bitch concocted by greedy communists. Fuck them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 07:15:11 2018 No.11247470 >>11247462 Nothing is impossible anon, I'm more than willing to exploit loopholes in the law because fuck the government that we have now (I still love Trump though)

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 07:37:52 2018 No.11247546 >>11245041 Fuck you fucking cuck

Anonymous Sat Sep 29 07:49:26 2018 No.11247588

>>11247449
Most banks have analytics set up to flag potential money laundering/tax evasion for suspicious amounts. If you are not larping that amount would get flagged (most Western countries its 10k). You goofed, there are ways to dodge the tax but you can't withdraw to your bank account.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 07:52:36 2018 No.11247598 >>11247588 it's not dodging taxes if the law says if you don't need to pay taxes on bitcoin held longer than a year and yes, I was fully aware of that don't go tumbling and use a decent exchange (bitstamp)

Anonymous Sat Sep 29 07:55:07 2018 No.11247602
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>>11247588
Christ banks are full of fucking kikes man,it's like:
>HOW DARE YOU MAKE MONEY GOYIM!?
>YOU'RE NOT A GLOBALIST COMPANY
>SO FUCK YOU
>YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO WHATEVER YOU WANT WITH YOUR MONEY
(((bank fraud))) is a fucking joke because Drug Dealers and Billionaires alike can do whatever they want. Trump needs to go full Jackson and let the people do what they fucking want. fuck the banks and their limits

>>11247598
is Binance still good? thats my current exchange

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 07:55:17 2018 No.11247606 >>11244896 >Rent an apartment in Monte Carlo for long enough to establish residence there >cash out >no tax >profit

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 07:57:44 2018 No.11247619 File: 25 KB, 621x372, Screenshot_20180929_135006.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11247602 I think you're a little paranoid banks also have to keep to the law you know binance? doubt it, it's tethered

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 07:57:54 2018 No.11247621 >>11247598 Fuck I'm jealous. All we get for holding over a year here is a 50% tax deduction. Currently doing my crypto CGT taxes, am an accountant and its still a fucking nightmare.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 07:59:10 2018 No.11247628 >>11247619 Whatever man, it's my money and I worry that inflation will make it worthless and thus if I had a lot of money on me I would love to take a huge chunk of it out and put it away in as much gold ingots as I can

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 08:00:26 2018 No.11247636 >>11247464 He's Walloon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 08:00:37 2018 No.11247637 >>11247598 There is no specific law and you are telling me that you held specific crypto for one year without doing any trades (inc. Tether)?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 08:05:01 2018 No.11247666 File: 201 KB, 1147x1075, Screenshot_20180929_135421.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11247628 lol? >>11247637 https://bitcoinbelgie.be/2013/12/18/belastingen-en-bitcoins-belgie/

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 08:07:41 2018 No.11247673 File: 466 KB, 500x375, Satan approves.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11247666 good job satan, you mind linking me the site?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 08:08:22 2018 No.11247676 >>11247224 >>11247277 >taxes are bad because I am an idiot or my education sucks fucking pathetic

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 08:09:53 2018 No.11247682 >>11247673 bitstamp.net

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 08:09:58 2018 No.11247683 >>11247676 >muh education Passing standardized tests and boosting your gpa doesn't make you smart. Experiences do

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 08:11:43 2018 No.11247690 >>11247682 thanks

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 08:15:09 2018 No.11247702 >>11247666 That didnt answer my question, did you held crypto for more than a year without doing trades? Yeah there isnt any specific law about crypto, it is viewed the same as stocks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 08:16:02 2018 No.11247708 Why not spend in crypto? The purpose of crypto is to use it as currency , dollar will collapse in the long run

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 08:18:19 2018 No.11247717 >>11247702 this is me >>11247409 proofs: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1 JRJnajZktFVGLv7pnsGR6mtkqtE65ymjH

Anonymous Sat Sep 29 08:20:38 2018 No.11247726

>>11247683
>>11247386
clearly an 18 year old burger that just got his first paycheck. I am fine with someone choosing to not pay taxes in some cases but holy shit at least be consistent. Taxation is theft but you'd be cool with it if it went to better stuff?
Also, the OP is not from a country with shit fucking education and "standardized testing", so fuck off. You'd probably still whine if you lived in a better country though

Anonymous Sat Sep 29 08:20:45 2018 No.11247727

>>11247702
it's also not like stocks
it's like when you buy a porsche 911 and sell it 2 years later but you find it's worth 300% now
this is still not your job
if you go trading multiple porsches every year then that's a profession and you should get taxed

Anonymous Sat Sep 29 08:24:46 2018 No.11247743
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>>11247726
I'm 20 years old and I used to work for a supermarket and I have seen countless niggers and illegal spics with room tempature iqs use the tax money us whites pay through EBT and they feast with their 5 kids as we struggle to feed ourselves and our two children. If that doesn't convince you that taxation is theft, then you are a cuck or a non-white that uses ebt

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 08:32:06 2018 No.11247773 File: 200 KB, 1024x1112, 1512476287234.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11247717 >>11247717 notice the date 2013-11-23 right before mtgox collapse 4-year cycle pic related is also me

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 08:38:08 2018 No.11247800 >>11247682 your site is shit, the passwords they give me are crap and they dont work

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 08:39:57 2018 No.11247805 >>11247727 Thats what I am saying, if you held without ever doing trades then thats fine. For every trade you need to pay 33% tax on the profit. Just saying how it is, fuck belastingen anyhow

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 08:43:39 2018 No.11247815 >>11247743 This fucking kid lol

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 08:44:06 2018 No.11247816 >>11247815 >t. nigger

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 08:47:49 2018 No.11247829 >>11247805 https://www.google.be/search?q=detijd+crypto+belastingen&oq=detijd+crypto+belastingen

Anonymous Sat Sep 29 08:50:13 2018 No.11247839

>>11247829
Als u de bitcoins ziet als langetermijnbelegging, en de transacties binnen het normale beheer van uw portefeuille vallen, dan zijn de meerwaarden belastingvrij, net als bij andere beleggingsproducten.
Als u speculeert met bitcoins, en dat niet uw beroep is, vallen de winsten onder de categorie 'diverse inkomsten' en betaalt u het tarief van 33 procent. U kan nog wel uw gemaakte kosten aftrekken.
Als u bitcoins beroepsmatig verhandelt, vallen de inkomsten onder de tarieven van de gewone personenbelasting. Zelfs indien u een ander beroep hebt, maar op georganiseerde, op grote schaal of met veel middelen toch in bitcoins handelt, kan de fiscus die inkomsten als beroepsinkomsten beschouwen.

Hodl

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 08:55:08 2018 No.11247875 >>11245041 hey kill yourself thanks nigger

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 08:56:01 2018 No.11247880 >>11247773 what do u suggest now? times really arent different - short crypto? im starting to believe u because the charts make sense. but what about the etf's and futures now?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 08:59:58 2018 No.11247901 File: 57 KB, 327x137, 1530816317061.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11244896 >pay taxes on income >pay taxes on buying stuff

Anonymous Sat Sep 29 09:09:12 2018 No.11247944

>>11247676
No you fucking Paki. Income tax is pathetic cause public education is only fit for,well , Pakis like you.Any self respecting westerner is educated in private schools not the gang infested shitholes you and your kin pass your mornings.Fuck right off.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 09:10:30 2018 No.11247954 >>11247944 this, I'd rather sacrifice an arm and a leg to make sure all of my kids go to private school than to have them encounter feral subhumans in public school

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 09:31:32 2018 No.11248045 >>11247880 that was written in december now is not the time to go short, now is the time to go long

Anonymous Sat Sep 29 09:42:36 2018 No.11248102

>>11247602
You now understand why bitcoin was created in the first place. Don't particpate in ((their)) system. Don't pay tax. Don't put money in the bank. Throw everything you can at crypto for the next few years and in a decade the entire fedeeral reserve system will collapse. Satoshi killed the banks by breaking their monopoly on money. We are the early adopters.

The free market literally fixed it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 10:15:43 2018 No.11248259 >>11244896 Move to another country and cash out? USA has 20% tax on long term capital gains for example.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 10:59:07 2018 No.11248539 >>11248102 I hope so, I wouldn't mind paying for stuff with Crypto and put some of current money away in gold, other rare Earths, and weapons

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 11:01:56 2018 No.11248553 Btw could any anons tell me if a hardware crypto wallet is good? Asking for a friend here's one I'm looking at https://www.ledger.com/products/ledger-nano-s

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 12:17:47 2018 No.11249171 Firstly, Belgium isn't a real country. Secondly, it belongs to the Netherlands where you pay 2% or something like that. Dyor, retard

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 12:21:27 2018 No.11249198 File: 35 KB, 823x586, Mexikko valottus apu.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11249171 >it belongs to the Netherlands wrong, it belongs to spain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Netherlands GIVE IT BACK

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 12:23:22 2018 No.11249208 Move to your neighbours aka the netherlands. No tax here :)

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 12:28:40 2018 No.11249242 >>11245286 Fucking this. Don't wanna pay tax? Stop using roads, telecoms, etc. Go live in a shack in the woods

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 12:30:40 2018 No.11249259 >>11244896 Literally just sell bitcoin for cash.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 12:37:00 2018 No.11249308 File: 37 KB, 400x351, 1530041823104.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11249242 >>11245286 >pls pay for my pension

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 12:43:34 2018 No.11249366 >>11249242 Fuck you. Govt roads are absolute shit. And telecoms are private industry.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 14:48:32 2018 No.11250386 >>11248045 but what about the cycle?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 17:06:19 2018 No.11251604 >>11249198 Just came back from spain. Man you really went down the shitter since you couldnt leach off of us. Everything that is remotely interesting was built by the arabs. LMFAO

Anonymous Sat Sep 29 19:28:09 2018 No.11252575

>>11244896
find a reputable broker on localbitcoins.com, don't use the site for the transaction just find a guy listing his phone number or telegram handle and message him. Meet a few guys a few times for small amounts and see if they are sketchy. Always meet at Starbucks, ask for the cash to be in an unsealed envelope, and bring a laptop to put on the table to block peoples view while you fan the cash out (while mostly in the envelope) and check it with a UV/idodine bill testing pen. Park down the block, walk to your car, and make sure nobody follows you, maybe carry mace/gun.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 20:31:14 2018 No.11253030 >>11244896 open an LLC in the us and transfer the coins as an asset. Sell the coins and withdraw the cash as a salary.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 20:39:39 2018 No.11253101 >>11247726 That idiot needs to read stirner and get some principles.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 29 23:21:14 2018 No.11254219 >>11247018 i did, made mellons in less than a yr, went to a "very good" lawyer, still have to pay up 33%, they haven't really teached me anything valuable yet.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 02:39:30 2018 No.11255290 set up a corporation and a bank account in a offshore tax haven and cash out to that bank account. trade $300k for cash in hand to live off in belgium and say u won it at a casino in monte carlo. ez

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 02:45:01 2018 No.11255306 I heard Zew Nealand doesn't have a crypto tax. Is this true? I'm getting conflicting answers from my own research.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 02:45:53 2018 No.11255310 >>11247397 t. Rootless cosmopolitan

Anonymous Sun Sep 30 03:06:05 2018 No.11255380

STUPID!BITCOIN IS ALREADY A CONTROLED AND REGULATED GOVERMENT MARKET! Why do you think the futures were invented in the first place?So the big guys could control and arbitrage bitcoin and hence all cryptos.They have been testing their control all this year, everytime bitcoin went down all cryptos went with it. Look at bitcoin future charts and the regular bitcoin chart .They are practically the same!Bitcoin and crypto will no longer give past gains ever again, not as fast as before, now it has become like another regular financial instument it will go up slowly and when they want. Satoshi dream is over.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 03:06:31 2018 No.11255381 >>11244896 Gib bitcoin pl0x

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 03:08:02 2018 No.11255388 >>11244896 Fly to a different country you dumbfuck. Then cash out from there in local currency from nearest coin exchange. This means you can never go back of course, so plan accordingly, like getting a citizenship or residence in the new country.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 30 03:08:21 2018 No.11255390 Money belongs to the government so better think of how they forgive you for stealing 66%. For now.

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