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I do like NANO to some extent, but I do still have the question of scaling. The lead dev supposedly did a succesful closed network test of 7k tx/s. In a real scenario, that number is probably somewhat lower until some lower tier nodes start to get unsynced. If the network starts to reach such limits (which is very possible if real adoption comes along) is there actually some way to scale beyond?

>> No.11090463

>>11090059
devs are constantly working on scaling. V17 is the next version which introduces pruning.

>> No.11090519

>>11090059
Vitalik Buterin is talking about full adaption and scaling to millions of transactions per second. Nano's couple of thousands TPS is a joke. No matter what they do with pruning etc. Visa has 56 000 TPS.

>> No.11090639

>>11090519
Yeah that's kind of the thing though isn't it everyone talks about solutions but they stand around with dicks in their hands and nothing gets done. The 7k test was done over a year ago when the project may as well have been in infancy. It's an entirely new method of handling transactions with unlimited scalability. Theoretically there is no limit to the transactions per second nano can handle if the project continues to grow.

How nano works is every transaction is not the same as eth/btc/ltc which hosts all wallets on the main chain instead nano uses each wallet as it's on blockchain which produces it's own proof of work. Therefore during each transaction the network does not need to update every wallet on the mainchain of the transaction which minimizes scalability issues.

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11090673

>>11090519
>He thinks timed blocks are the same thing as a dag combined with individual blockchains for instant confirmation

How cute

>> No.11090688

>>11090639
The 7K test was false. Nano had to change do to serious security issues and the TPS fell to 100-200. Still nutty nanoids were running around with the fake 7K meme.

Ethereum has 1 100 software engineers, working on scaling. Your dick in your hand comment is idiotic. There is no way in hell Nano can scale to full adaption.

>> No.11090696

>>11090673
>straw man fallacy
t/ utter moron

>> No.11090726

>>11090639
>Theoretically there is no limit to the transactions per second nano can handle if the project continues to grow.
That is just as idiotic as saying that theoretically there is no limit to how fast a car can go, and the plan is to get enough speed so the car can escape the earth's gravity shield and drive to the moon. There is NO way Nano can physically reach VISA's 56 TPS or Ethereum's coming one million TPS. It is a tough job for Ethereum, but if anyone will be able to to do it, - it will be them.

>> No.11090735

>>11090639
Current TPS is 756. Pretty far away from 56 000, and VISA does not try to be a global currency.

>> No.11090884

>>11090726
Says my theoretic hyperbole is bad, claims ethereum will somehow reach 1 million tps on chain yeah ok buddy and lightning network will change everything too just keep holding on.

Sharding, a Layer 1 scaling solution, is cited by Buterin as the first protocol that will allow Ethereum to scale effectively. Sharding divides the Blockchain network into fragments called shards that contain their own independent piece of state and transaction history, which are then equipped with a group of nodes responsible for processing the information of certain fragments.

Sharding works in conjunction with Plasma, which is a Layer 2 solution described by Buterin as a “special construction that’s connected to the blockchain and gets alot of decentralization properties from it, but at the same time has much higher throughput by itself.”

Spoiler dipshit block lattice already does what the lightning network or plasma or whatever you faggots want to call it does. Jesus you fucks have no idea what you're talking about and just circle jerk your bags.

>> No.11090968

>>11090884
> Jesus you fucks have no idea what you're talking about and just circle jerk your bags.
Typical comment from the nasty nano fanbois. Bitconnect 2.0.

Here:
Vitalik Buterin: Ethereum Will Eventually Achieve 1 Million Transactions Per Second
https://www.ccn.com/vitalik-buterin-ethereum-will-eventually-achieve-1-million-transactions-per-second/

What will Nano do? double TPS to 1400 TPS and compete with Visa 56 000 TPS? Are you delusional?

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11091156

>>11090968
It already does what lightning/plasma/raiden whatever you faggots are calling it this week does. That's why it can scale infinitely as the network grows. It's a lattice not a blockchain each wallet is it's own ledger/wallet that is verified via consensus of both wallets at a node to confirm a send and receive order was made. The only data verified is the most recent block each time. Rather than every block forever staying on the chain.

>> No.11091222

>>11091156
>It already does what lightning/plasma/raiden whatever you faggots are calling it this week does
You can already do one million TPS, are you insane? So how many TPS can Nano realistically do within one year? Show me your documentation.

>> No.11091304

>>11091222
Realistically unlimited unless they stop developing

>> No.11091348

>>11091304
>Realistically unlimited unless they stop developing
AGAIN: That is just as idiotic as saying that theoretically there is no limit to how fast a car can go, and the plan is to get enough speed so the car can escape the earth's gravity shield and drive to the moon. There is NO way Nano can physically reach VISA's 56 TPS or Ethereum's coming one million TPS. It is a tough job for Ethereum, but if anyone will be able to to do it, - it will be them.

>> No.11091389

>>11091222
The 1 million number is a meme. The transactions aren't confirmed that's the point. As soon as the channel is closed the transaction still needs confirmations it still needs to verify the block which is hardcoded into eth at 15 tps. Off chain is infinite transactions per second which nano can scale to reach with enough nodes. Same as lightning/raiden/plasma channels. They are off chain but the transaction still needs to be confirmed on chain at a rate of 15 tps. This limitation does not exist in nano as the confirmation is only did sender and receiver confirm to this and how does their balances now reflect reducing the bandwidth you don't need 50 confirmations that the transaction occurred unlike ethereum.

>> No.11091394

>>11091348
No, it's not. Why couldn't it? As far as I know we will see that. One million TPS would be one hell of a stretch for ethereum, doubt it will ever get there desu

>> No.11091428

>>11091389
I can also talk about expected improvements of the engine of the car and how I will then drive to the moon. I asked for documentation estimated TPS nano within one year. It is physical impossible for Nano to be a global currency, It is fake fairy tale. Ethereum might be able to do it. They have the bast and largest dev community.

>> No.11091473

>>11091428
Show me documentation that ethereum can scale and not just the words of an autist hurrrr durrr sources needed

>> No.11091513

>>11091428
I highly doubt ethereum or nano will become the global currency. We are much more likely to see cryptocurrency adopted as a whole, or a new very normie friendly government friendly crypto that was perfectly designed to handle both the entire global economy and any new improved crypto developments

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>>11091428
1# ETH doesn't want to be a currency.
2# you can send transactions with 0 gas fee
3# Basically Ethereum is useless.

BTC XMR NANO.


THe fact that NANO can do more TPS right now means that will always do more tps if they implement general scaling techniques like sharding. lel.


DGB is a shit ton faster and can already scale up to 200k tps right now.

ETH is bloated, late, the smart contracts is bloating the chain. it will NEVER scale as well as a crypto that is pure aimed at being a currency.

get your head out of your ass.


ETH was not build with scaling in mind.

its not easy to make something scale if the fundaments arent build for it.