At what point in your business do you need to hire goons?

[Anonymous No.10595726]

And how do you find goons to hire? How much should you pay them?

I sell adult novelties to women (lingerie, massagers, etc) in a "pleasure party" format. Basically, this an affiliate operation. Women I know throw a get together to look at my products. I provide them with booze, and cheap food. Then I show up and let them look through my products. Woman hosting the party gets a cut for bringing me a captive audience.

You'd be surprised how easy it is to get tipsy women to spend money on cheap chinese panties and dildos. It's a really great business model. Except for one thing -- one of the women I network with has this boyfriend who is an overly jealous faggot. Chad Juan DeMarco sees me as a threat for some reason. He'll show up to these parties to "watch" (which really kills my sales, girls don't have as much fun when they feel like they're being judged), and on more than one occasion he's been drunk and got in my face talking all that "if you ever, ever, ever try anything with anonette bullshit"

I've tried explaining to him that it's just business. I've tried explaining to him that I'm gay. This guy doesn't fucking get it. Last time I flat out told the woman that if he's there I'm not showing up, which was hard to do because she by far makes me the most money. But what do you know, he showed up drunk as fuck, spilled a whole bottle of wine meant for the girls, and when I asked him to leave he grabbed me up by the shirt and tore my favorite polo.

This guy is a problem, he's getting in the way of me making money, and I'm concerned he may become violent with me. What should I do, /biz/? Do I outsource the problem to goons? How will I convince street toughs to become my dildo party goons?

[Anonymous No.10595763]

>>10595726

Sounds like you need a stable horse

[Anonymous No.10595770]

>>10595726
>when hes there, women buy less
>when his gf is running things, i make the most money
sounds goofy. id just cut your losses and move on to another girl to do the planning.

[Anonymous No.10595855]

>>10595770

To clarify, when he isn't there and she's running things, they are easily my most profitable parties and it isn't even close. I make more on one of her parties than I make on three other parties.

When he's there, other girls tend to leave as soon as he starts in with his drunk shit and I end up making about as much as an average other party and sometimes less. Still profitable, but not really worth it since I don't want to be threatened.

[Anonymous No.10595878]

>>10595855
Get your other girls to learn how she does it and have them copy her, then get rid of her.

Pimpin' ain't easy

[Anonymous No.10595896]

Ask friends where they buy their coke. Meet up with dealer. Purchase some coke and strike up a conversation. Tell him you've been having trouble and might need someone to act as a well paid strong arm. Offer him money to find a suitable candidate. You now have your own goons!

[Anonymous No.10595991]

>>10595726
So something else I need to consider is what kind of goons I would hire. A huge aspect of these parties is creating an environment that women feel is safe and private so they can be themselves. The kind of guys I hire for security should be able to intimidate other men when needed, but their presence in itself shouldn't be menacing. They also need to be able to follow instructions and not jump to causing a scene when the situation could be handled with a bit more finesse. Here are some options I've been thinking about.

>The latino route

I speak a bit of spanish and my neighbor has connections with MS 13. Pros: The guys work cheap, and will follow instructions closely. Cons: Most of them are covered in face tattoos and visibly look like criminals.

>Black street youths

I don't really want to go this route. In my experience, they lack professionalism, tend to be lazy, and will burst in to autistic rage if they feel they're being disrespekk'd. They've also got trouble controlling their muh dik impulses, which can not only fuck with my profitability but can create more problems than I already have. The only pro is that they work cheap.

>Frat boy/"Chad" tier whites

Most expensive option to find ones that will follow instructions and not make unwanted sexual advances to the guests. However, they also appear the least threatening.

> bikers

My uncle is a biker and he and his buddies would provide security for next to nothing. Literally get them some booze and toss them $20 each and they'd do it. They also wouldn't touch the girls. The problem is that they're also 50 year old grizzled, bearded looking guys with beer bellies and aren't really conducive to the environment I want.

[Anonymous No.10596057]

Please be real

[Anonymous No.10596107]

>>10595878
Not that easy. This girl is regional C-list celebrity tier. Huge IG following, creates an aura of exclusivity for the parties, and the guests she attracts have deep pockets. Trust fund babies, sorority girls with rich daddies, and younger women in relationships with rich husbands and boyfriends.

Honestly, getting on working terms with this girl took a lot of effort and a bit of luck. Things just kind aligned right and I had an opportunity to chat her up and give her my pitch at a party she happened to be at. Very rare opportunity, and I do a lot of networking.

[Anonymous No.10596131]

Fratboys. Eye candy for the girls, and 3 of them could take on one chadouche

[Anonymous No.10596173]

>>10596131

Plus if they broke college kids, not only do you get some underpaid bodyguards that work as a team, you get selection.

[Anonymous No.10596185]

absolutely degenerate

[Anonymous No.10596200]

>>10595726
good thread. pls post more

[Anonymous No.10596216]

>>10595726
Just bring a nigger with you. That will scare Chad off

[Anonymous No.10596220]

>>10595726
Cool gig op

How about a male stripper?
>Go to local gym
>Find local ripped big chad
>He can hang around the party as a guest then surprise the girls later
>Maybe he can give the girls who buy the most a lapdance or just generally hype them up further
A big dude whos obviously your buddy will intimidate 99% of basedboys. Plus, the stripping improves the party and you havent brought a goon for nothing if everything goes smoothly.

[Anonymous No.10596243]

go to your local dojo and hire their bruce lee equivalent. absolutely must be asian though, no such thing as a white or black bruce lee.

[Anonymous No.10596244]

>>10596220
this is a really good suggestion. You can get a couple pussies that look tough cause they hit the gym a lot. Plus yknow maybe they can strip and help you sell

anyway i really hope this is a true story

[Anonymous No.10596249]

>>10596216
I explained the problem with recruiting blacks here >>10595991

Going the BBG (big black goon) route will be more than enough to scare Chad Juan (what do we call a latino chad anyway?) off, but finding a reliable one that works cheap and won't make unwanted advances on the girls is next to impossible.

[Anonymous No.10596251]

How about this
>find a woman business partner who can take your place at these parties
>which frees you up to focus on this asshole
>every time there is a lingerie party you send your female partner and you take this guy out to a bar or somewhere to get him away
That way he feels secure knowing that you aren't pulling any inappropriate shit, and as a bonus you'll probably have even higher profitability with a 100% female crowd. Sure it'll suck having to hang out with him, but it might be your best bet. At least until he gets to know you better and maybe eventually will stop caring about crashing the parties

[Anonymous No.10596287]

>>10596220
This could work. I really like this idea, and actually do know a lot of pretty jacked fitness bros. No idea what they'd charge though. Thank you anon. I could pay them a flat rate, and spend a bit to get them looking professional. Tailored shirt and slacks, shoes, stylish haircut.

>>10596243

Here's the problem. Asian martial arts expert may very well know how to handle themselves if it comes to it. The problem is that I don't want it to come to that because I don't want a scene to be made. Ideal bodyguard should be able to defuse the situation/persuade the guy to back off sheerly through intimidation. Asians, sorry to say, are not intimidating to most other men.

[Anonymous No.10596303]

>>10596251
Ignoring the fact that I'd rather get fucked in the ass with a screwdriver than spend time with this douchebag, that feeling is reciprocal. The guy has zero interest in hanging out with me, whether or not I bribe him to. I know because I've swallowed my pride and tried.

[Anonymous No.10596318]

>>10595726
Seems to me you might have to assert dominance. Give him a roofie and make him suck your winkie. Filmed of course, post on /b you larping faggot while blackmailing him. Tell him you will delete the video if he gives you suck again then film that too then send to his work so he commits sudoku..

[Anonymous No.10596361]

>>10596318
>assert dominance

I'm a 5'6, 120 pound asian sticcboi. I couldn't intimidate the average high school freshman.

>Give him a roofie and make him suck your winkie.

Yeah, I'm not trying to give this guy a reason to sue me/have me arrested.

[Anonymous No.10596392]

You could hire an mma guy

[Anonymous No.10596440]

What state you located in OP? I'd pull a shift for some crypto.

[Anonymous No.10596467]

>>10595991
Go to the gym and find sexually attractive strong guys who could hold their own in a fight but are not intimidating. This works because the women will like them and make them want to come to your parties and they serve the purpose. Also, consider they could do male stripper shit if the girls got really drunk and wanted that. You could charge extra money for one of them to do stripper shit.

[Anonymous No.10596480]

>>10596361
Roid and go full bolo yeung

[Anonymous No.10596490]

>>10595726
Hire a cop to stay outside-costly but if you pay them they’ll fuck him up

[Anonymous No.10596693]

>>10596318
Fucking kek

[Anonymous No.10596790]

>>10596361
Godspeed mr. chinese dildo merchant. May brawny goons and great profits come to you. Thank you for good thread.

[Anonymous No.10596835]

>>10596440

Florida and Illinois. I operate in both the Chicago and Miami metro areas. The problem is Miami though.

[Anonymous No.10596912]

Leave to a gay Korean to come up with the best /biz/ bullshit thread in several months.

The absolute state of this place...

[Anonymous No.10597038]

>>10596835
>Florida
>Miami

Ask me how I know the asshole your dealing with is a low iq cholo brownman

[Anonymous No.10597176]

>>10597038
Brownman, but non-cholo and probably average IQ. He's not stupid, just a raging asshole. Chad-juan is a partner at his daddy's accounting firm, basically lucked out finding a girl somewhat out of his league, and so spends his life crazy jealous and suspicious of every male that talks to her.

Honestly, his life seems kind of miserable and stressful considering how much male attention she gets on a daily basis via social media.

[Anonymous No.10597601]

>>10595726
Read through most suggestions, and I didn't see this: Tell your friend to tell him to back off, because he's getting in the way of HER profits.

[Anonymous No.10597652]

>>10597176
>his life seems kind of miserable and stressful considering how much male attention she gets on a daily basis via social media.

Not that I ever could, but I seriously don't think I would want to ever date a super-model gorgeous woman. Knowing that she's going to get hit on and propositioned literally everywhere she goes as soon as you're not with her must be enough to drive a man crazy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BToiFA2JnRU

[Anonymous No.10597673]

>>10595991
This sounds like a great business model and I applaud you for it. Depending on how financially comfortable you are I am certain you could hire security. Just google "party security" and do a bit of research on companies that send out security personnel for events. These people tend to be very professional and have many years of experience (won't act out of rage or anything).

Again this depends on how much spare cash you have and how willing your C-list celebrity is with having them around. If it were me, I'd put safety first because this guy sounds like a real troublemaker for not only your business but your personal safety as well. If the Chad attacks your security guard then chances are the security will not only throw him out but also press charges. Good luck to you OP and I hope you make some good cash with this enterprise.

[Anonymous No.10597726]

>>10596249
>>10597176
I would poach bouncers, or get Football players from Umiami looking to make some scratch.

[Anonymous No.10597891]

>>10596361
Suck his dick instead and film it?

[Anonymous No.10598033]

>>10595991
Call your uncle, let him and his get some drink in a bar nearby (give them some booze money). If there is something wrong call him for a visit.

Don't pay anyone else, in most cases the goon will try to extorue you.

[Anonymous No.10598087]

>put drugs on him or his car
>call the cops

>put laxative on his drinks

>steal his smartphone and download a lot of cheese pizza
>do anonymous call to FBI

[Anonymous No.10598163]

you could put the squeeze on her. Tell her that you cant pay her as much when he comes because you dont make as much. you could also pretend to get a boyfriend and bring him around. This is a tough one man.

[Anonymous No.10598249]

Hey OP, illinois here. Im not huge but im 220 lbs with chad shoulders and a history of mma. I'll bounce for you. I'll even sweet talk your bad boy down

[Anonymous No.10599214]

>>10596490
Cops are probably a no-no. A lot of the parties I do have a lot of drugs there. Coke, ecstasy, etc. Having a cop around could spook a lot of my clientele and affiliates.

[Anonymous No.10599247]

>>10598163
She doesn't care about the money. I mean, she doesn't complain that she gets her cut or anything, but she doesn't need it. Family is pretty wealthy, and her Chad boyfriend's family is also loaded. The real value she gets from me is that I offer a novelty theme for her to have parties and rub elbows with other women that kiss her ass.

To be fair to her, she claims she doesn't want him around either and will tell him not to come, to cut it out, and that he's embarrassing her. But at the end of the day he doesn't really listen and she's not really willing to do anything drastic to stop him.

[Anonymous No.10599293]

Opie this is probably one of the better business ideas I've seen come from this board. How much do you make at one of these parties and how can I do what you do?

[Anonymous No.10599470]

>>10599247
don't you have any steroid fag friends that can help at your parties and intimidate the spic?

[Anonymous No.10599478]

>>10599293

I came out as gay during high school. I was from a small town in Illinois, and pretty much the only openly gay guy there so I kind of became the token gay friend for some of the more popular girls there. I did all the cliche bullshit like went shopping with them, listened to their problems, whatever. Anyway, I kind of thrived in that social niche and what I realized is that a lot of the shopping women do serves a social purpose just as much as a material one. They love to buy things together because they get to bond, gossip, and have a good time.

The next piece of the puzzle was thinking about the Mary Kay shit that my mom did in her spare time. She would have parties with her friends, tell them to invite their friends or whatever and bring product samples. They may not even have wanted to buy the stuff, but they go there to socialize and at least buy something to be polite. And when it's boozy, they usually spend more.

So, I thought about what women talk about when they're "out with the girls", and the problems they have. One problem is that girls, generally speaking, don't want to just go to a filthy porn store surrounded by truckers and degenerates to buy dildos. It's not a safe environment where they can hang out.

So, I've got this cousin who still lives over in China and he runs one of those wholesaling businesses on alibaba. I ask him if he can source me lingerie and sex toys. He says no problem. I tell him to send me some sample dildos, vibrators, rabbits, panties, and body oils.

I tell my girlfriends I can get them deals on lingerie and toys and that we'll have a girls night in and look at them. I buy wine, order pizza, buy icecream. First night I did it I made $500.

I did that a few more times then moved down to the Miami area for college. I kind of filled in to the same social niche and kept doing these parties with girlfriends to make extra cash. I graduated, but by then I was making so much money selling dildos I decided to do that.

[Anonymous No.10599553]

>>10599470
Friends? Neh, not really. Most of people I hang out with are women, and most of the guys I hang out with are twinks. I know a couple of guys casually at the gym, but there aren't a lot of huge powerlifter types there.

>>10599293

Anyway, if you want to do what I do, my advice is to make lots of female friends and gain their trust. Being gay or being willing to fake being gay would help. They need to see you as basically one of the girls.

>how much do you make?

Last year I did $250K in revenue. Expenses for product sourcing, shipping, client meetings, party supplies, advertising (mostly by social media) travel are around $75K. I operate a single-member LLC, so I pay self employment taxes and my profits are taxed as regular income tax. At the end of the day, I keep about $75K. I'm not wealthy, but it's enough for me to live comfortably on and it's attractive since my work is very part-time.

[Anonymous No.10599611]

>>10595726
>How will I convince street toughs to become my dildo party goons?

[Anonymous No.10599700]

>the most successful businessman here is a gay azn twink dildo merchant

You can't make this shit up.

[Anonymous No.10599893]

>>10595726

You should not hire goons. If what you're doing is even remotely legal, and even if it isn't, call the cops. They make problematic people disappear just by visiting, or worse, sending paper work and making phone calls to whoever's being an idiot.

Also cops don't cost anything to call. Even a fat retired bouncer will want a paycheck.

[Anonymous No.10599963]

>>10595726
what you do is open carry a gun and talk mad shit to him

oh yeah and put a no guns sign in the front of the store if your in a state like that

[Anonymous No.10600005]

>>10595726
you have to cut the girl out. she'll dump the guy if its important.

[Anonymous No.10600015]

>>10599963

I don't maintain a storefront. Parties are at the personal homes of my client-affiliates. Open carrying a gun is a non-starter. First, I'm a felon and not allowed to have a gun. Second, carrying a gun will absolutely not work around women. A huge part of my business is making women feel relaxed and safe. Brandishing a gun and trying to antagonize a host's boyfriend is a catastrophically bad idea for the health of my business.

Any solution I have should avoid causing a scene.

[Anonymous No.10600030]

>>10600015
HATE FUCK THE GF WITH YOUR FAGGOT COCK

[Anonymous No.10600036]

>>10600015
A HOMOSEXUAL FELON DILDO MERCHANT?


HAHHAHAHAHAH

[Anonymous No.10600304]

https://fastguardservice.com

[Anonymous No.10600368]

See, your problem is that you're trying to be a cheapo if you think that frat guys is your absolute high-end option. One dollar gets you one dollar thugs.

[Anonymous No.10600575]

>>10595991
why the fuck do you need the bouncers to be inside the venue? let them chill out at the entrance...

[Anonymous No.10600863]

>>10595726
What country are you in?

[Anonymous No.10601024]

>>10600015
>I'm a felon
Uh... how?

[Anonymous No.10601071]

>>10600015
truly /biz/ has the best threads

if you a G; you wouldnt be hustling dildos. also u aint got not street smarts if you cant appear menacing to a fellow male.

regards you wanting to hire goons its a bad idea. just make your little fag fest a female only thing. dont let males in also ban the bitch with the crazy bf

[Anonymous No.10601139]

>>10601024
>>10601071

>Uh...how?

Cocaine possession. If you spend time in Miami, you'll learn that faggotry, cocaine, and club life is all kind of intertwined.

>if you a G...can't appear menacing to a fellow male

I'm not some thug. I'm a twink who likes coke.

[Anonymous No.10601148]

>>10596249
>what do we call a latino chad anyway?
Sancho.

[Anonymous No.10601836]

OP have you tried talking to that idiot and his gf at their place (a different setting) and explaining the situation? I have the feeling that this is the kind of guy that will eventually bring a gun if you hire bouncers.

[AssBlaster !l8w9M8R/eY No.10601862]

>>10595726
Shorting western women heh?
Most of us here want to find a good family value oriented virgin girl while you're literally helping (((them))), and you come to us for advice? REEEEEEEEEEE FAGGOT

[Anonymous No.10602304]

OP CONTINUE THIS THREAD IT"S INTERSTING!

[Anonymous No.10602426]

>>10601862
>shorting western women
>family oriented virgin girl yada yada yada

If that's what you're chasing, you're never going to get it no matter where in the world you go looking . It's a meme that has never existed.

[Anonymous No.10602538]

you have to either cut ties with both of them, or deal with it. just keep telling him that he is creeping your clients out and ruining your bottom line, and that you used to think he was super hot when you first met him but now you think he's unattractive and comes off like a desperate loser

[Anonymous No.10602590]

enlist a woman seller, offer her merely a small piece of the action, deploy her at woman only events to scrape up the jealous bf market

[Anonymous No.10602634]

>>10595726
Pretend to be a girl
Send him "nudes"
Get him to send you video of him jerking off
Forward it to his GF
They break up and your problem is solved

[Anonymous No.10602983]

>>10599478

Zach?

[Anonymous No.10603009]

>>10601862
>Most of us here want to find a good family value oriented virgin girl

Hello /pol/ transplant
The true /biz/raelite disregards women completely, even pure virgins that would make good wives. Women are about the worst financial investment a man can make. Marriage is a money sink that leads to kids which are an even bigger money sink.

[Anonymous No.10603532]

>>10595726
The only thing the boyfriend did wrong was allow the woman to take part in your pathetic degeneracy. Soon what you're doing will be illegal, both the pyramid scheme and your sodomy.

[Anonymous No.10603612]

>>10595726
He's in your house, he has to leave if you tell him, don't hire someone to do it, just call the police on him if he refuses to leave. If this guy is so huge it might not be a horrible idea to arm yourself with something perhaps pepper spray or a taser but check your local laws before buying weapons.

[Anonymous No.10603632]

>>10603532
>soon what you are doing will be illegal
Nice delusion m8
So why do you hate sex is it the dead jew on a stick

[Anonymous No.10603846]

>>10595726
this sounds like such a dumb problem. I don't get it, your wing-woman is in it for stroking her ego, but somehow her boyfriend appears at your "parties" and ruins everything... How does that bf even find the location of the party, can't your wing-woman simply not tell him the location? Either I don't get it or this situation is really dumb.

[Anonymous No.10603956]

>>10602426
Im in an almost 2 year relationship with a 24 year old girl who was a virgin before i met her

you mad?

[Anonymous No.10604001]

>>10603956
>was a virgin
you didn't marry her?

[Anonymous No.10604027]

>>10595726
Can you hire me? I boxed and played rugby. It's not my fault I'm dumb. I just need something to do.

[Anonymous No.10604078]

>>10603956
>virgin at 22
Let me guess, about three-fifty?

[Anonymous No.10604105]

>>10596835
I live In west palm beach

[Anonymous No.10604216]

>>10595855

Get an intervention order, or call the police if he arrives.. Duh

[Anonymous No.10604245]

>>10602426
seriously, I'm a nice looking white boy, was raised Presbyterian, so If the women are all drunk I'll be polite to them and respectfully decline, unless you give me the nod then I'll go with them. I'll literally do what you say like a dog. I've been told i'm a pretty handsome guy, and I'll stand in between you and chad Juan.

I would defuse the tension, and say " I'm sorry sorry sir, 120lb twink anon is my best friend, and I can't let him feel unsure at work"

That way he wont feel disrespected.

If worse comes to worse I'll smash him in his face, and I can guarantee I'll knock him out, I'm dumb, and I don't look like the strongest guy, but I can punch really really hard. I boxed for ten years

[Anonymous No.10604348]

>>10595726
Hire some mma fags, and put a wig on em

[Anonymous No.10604367]

>>10596790
100/10

[Anonymous No.10604511]

>>10596835
oh shit lol i live in miami
brown cholo gangbanger looking mf too

[Anonymous No.10604590]

>>10595896
THAT IS 100% NOT HOW IT WORKS LOL

THAT PLUG WOULD LAUGH IN YOUR FACE AND STEAL UR SNEAKERS FOR BEING A BUSTER

[Anonymous No.10604684]

>>10595726

op is larping but if he tore your polo, that is assault and a green light for a restraining order

goons are expensive and a huge liability

[Anonymous No.10604833]

You have a funny life with funny problems OP.

Thanks for sharing

[Anonymous No.10604891]

>>10595726

Btw, OP, I just told my gf about your post and she threw the of hiring female goons.

I believe you could find some older/stronger women who would be interested in working, you could also give discounts on your products as incentives.

Maybe they could carry MACE or tasers

It would also be helpful as women in the environment wouldnt feel as threatened and perhaps could even enjoy the company of the goon lady

[Anonymous No.10604915]

>>10595726
https://explorer.dcrdata.org/tx/b1b3b0dc2ad2704d53144c8c47363603a804f89c66befd288c01ffb7b140b6b4

[Anonymous No.10605381]

>>10595726
Get fit, get a martial arts membership somewhere(muay thai, kickboxing, bjj, boxing should all work fine. Make sure to dodge mcdojos though).
Put some work into it, shouldn't take more than 2/3 months at most. Invite him to come with you for a training session. Beat his ass but not to the degree that would seem suspicious, just enough to let him know who the top dog is.
Problem solved without it fucking up your business in any way. Obviously you do not want any sort of violence to occur near these "pleasure parties".

BJJ probably is the perfect solution in your case: least reliant on raw strength, technique plays a very big part. Quite frankly it was designed by a smaller guy to deal with bigger guys. Moreover if you get a boner whilst choking him out it would only act as a bonus and probably clear up any misunderstandings.

Hiring any thugs of any kind around your business venture would be detrimental to it. If it is absolutely needed to solve this ASAP have someone beat his ass somewhere unrelated to these parties. Just find out

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[Anonymous No.10605433]

>>10595726
>Someone on /biz/ will soon be showing up to events he organizes with a briefecase full of dildos and lingerie while flanked by two goons

[Anonymous No.10605450]

The thing about calling the cops is that they suck-everyone imagines they will show up and be their private security force but in reality they are lazy faggots. Hiring an off duty policeman is like paying a bribe-they have to do something otherwise they don’t get paid next time. Other thought is to do it in a hotel room or back room of a bar or restaurant and use their security.

[Anonymous No.10605510]

Get a couple of female professionals. The drunk asshole archetype will rarely want to tangle with female guards that tell them to cool off. Unless he is a big guy for you two or three trained/armed with nonlethal weapon should be able to handle escalation, but what you want is to minimize the risk of it happening.

[Anonymous No.10606009]

>>10597176
>chad-juan

sounds like daquan, not really chad

[Anonymous No.10606285]

>>10598087
Absolutely devilish