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10564252 No.10564252 [Reply] [Original]

if hans sells i'm out. he says october 5th is the day of reckoning. either they have a major update or he's gone. no one has defended this project more autistically than him

>> No.10564421

>>10564252
Who cares? Every alt coin is dead right now, nobody cares about shitcoins which aren't even traded on binance

>> No.10564459

>>10564252
he hasnt said any such thing.When you have to resort to complete lies, you have failed completely to fud.Shows how strong the project is.

>> No.10564547

>>10564459
you're obviously not in the right telegram group faggot

>> No.10564559

>>10564547
Screencap it then queer

>> No.10564578

Jibrel supports ISIS. I reported them.

>> No.10564604

>>10564547
his latest post on the jibrel telegram he is looking forward to jibrel in 2019.Your lies to get cheap jibrel are not even convincing.

>> No.10564629

>>10564559
>>10564604
nah fuck you not spoonfeeding you shit. don't give a fuck if you don't believe me. he is waiting until 10/5 and implied he will leave if we don't have major news. again, you're in the WRONG telegram group faggot. figure it out on your own.

>> No.10564638

>>10564629
lol, in the group but cant make a screengrab.Nice lies faggot.Anyone here can go to the jibrel telegram and read exactly what hans really thinks.THREAD FAIL.

>> No.10564665

Lots of JNT talk recently. Feeling comfy bagholdimg

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>>10564252
OP is a liar!
No other mentions of October 5 or Oct 5

>> No.10564670

>>10564629
How's he supposed to "figure it out"? Either he's in this group or he isn't. Nobody should care about Hans but if you want people to believe you take a screenshot.

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>>10564638
THERE ARE MULTIPLE TELEGRAM GROUPS THAT HANS IS ACTIVE IN YOU FUCKING MASSIVE IDIOT. HOLY SHIT YOU ARE SERIOUSLY NOT GONNA MAKE IT, HOW CAN YOU NOT FUCKING GATHER THAT INFORMATION FROM MY NOW THREE SEPARATE POSTS EXPLAINING IT TO YOU

>> No.10564697

>>10564665
I feel optimistic still but there is basically no talk compared to a few months back. All there is right now is the odd shitty article on random crypto clickbait websites once per week.

>> No.10564700

>>10564252
Hans is a faggot who only loses money on shitcoins and pretends like he's not worried because he "belives in the tech"
massive faggot, very sad!

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>>10564686
>MULTIPLE TELEGRAM GROUPS
fuck off only 3 one is the main group, 1 is chink group, one is russian

>> No.10564711

>>10564686
your info means nothing without proof.I can prove with multiple screenshots this isnt what hans thinks from what he has said on the jibrel telegram.Now fuck off faggot and cry you cant buy anymore cheap jnt to add to your 1000 jnt "stack".

>> No.10564713

>>10564686

pics or it didn't happen.

>> No.10564719

>>10564252
Hans is a sandnigger, who cares

>> No.10564724

none of you guys deserve to make it jfc. i'm going to be laughing in your fucking faces when you put it together and realize i'm not larping at all

>> No.10564754

>>10564724
Even if hans was threatening to sell, which he isnt, why would that mean anything?He gets destroyed when he debates with anyone half intelligent.Takes him 10 minutes to write a 4 line reply to anything.I wouldnt use him as a litmus test as to if the project is good or not.Make your own mind up you weak minded idiot.

>> No.10564757

>>10564724

Seriously, JNT is 1/2 price ICO. Just fucking buy it instead of posting bullshit trying to manipulate the market. If anyone held onto JNT this long, they aren't fucking selling.

>> No.10564776

>>10564754
he's actually a pretty smart guy in his own way. i think he's quite wealthy and talks at a high level about the market in general... in the OTHER telegram group that apparently none of you brainlets can locate which means you haven't been following the original TG group closely enough. pathetic.

>> No.10564814

>>10564776
Look, your other group isnt special, nobody cares about your "secret club".The most vocal of the jibrel group are the poorest, putting money in week by week from their poverty jobs, which is exactly why you made this shit thread, because if you can lower the price you might be able to buy yourself a night out this week.Anyone with money doesnt make these panic threads, because they have the money not to worry.Any crypto is a high risk investment.

>> No.10564815

>>10564776
If he was such a smart guy he wouldn't announce well in advance this sort of stuff while he still owns JNT. Yawn, let me know if Phil ever says anything.

>> No.10564822

>>10564776
he's a retard who unironically fell for the "long term" and "tech" meme in crypto. The only smart move was to dump this shit right after the ico when it was 2 or 3x, he may be a loaded boomer but he only loses money. If you think that "tokenizing assets" (basicly printing erc20 while holding the real thing) requires $30M for "development" you are deluded. They scamed people out of money like pretty much every other shitcoin team during the ico mania. If they did the ico today they wouldn't raise $2m

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>>10564814
nice projection loser, guarantee my stack is bigger than yours. i'm sure if i'm larping you'll be able to find this post in the original TG group pretty quickly

>> No.10564869

>>10564847
I dont doubt you arnt in a group with that fag, (which says it all about you).The fact you can post that and not what you claimed shows you are a lying faggot , who is poor and wants more cheap because you have to ration your wages every week.

>> No.10564884

>>10564847
Screenshot of a random post but not the original claimed one.

How retarded are JNT holders? Fuck this whole bouncy sandcastle shit project

>> No.10564899

>>10564884
Exactly, this retard can even plan anything out without fucking it up.

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>>10564706

>> No.10564931

>>10564869
kek that's not gonna work fag, figure it out for yourself. if you want to know that bad you'll do some digging.

i will unironically sell if hans does. say what you will about the man but he knows a lot about crypto and has been in the game a long time. he met the team and has been shitting up the TG every hour for months like it's full time job. if he sells he knows something is massively wrong with the project or with the crypto market in general

>>10564920
based

>> No.10564958

>>10564920
Hans is in other telegram groups, WORLD BREAKING NEWS.Im tired of talking about Hans, he is a fucking retard and anyone basing any of their opinions of this project on him needs to leave crypto asap.Everyone groans when Hans replies to anything like he is a figure of authority.

>> No.10564977

>>10564931
Again, you base your opinions on somebody everyone else think is dumb.Nobody cares what Hans thinks or what you think.Nobody wants to work out anything you say, you have proven you cant even think for yourself.

>> No.10564992

he is annoying, not dumb. don't conflate the too. the guy is obviously well-educated. it's a meme to make fun of him on biz but only a brainlet would seriously think he doesn't know a good bit about investing.

>> No.10565020

>>10564992
you are so stupid, you cant even grasp basic psychology.If you really thought Jibrel had a chance of not making it, the last thing you would do would be to fud and tank your own investment.You would keep quiet and hope you could make it out before anyone else.Each post I put your IQ lower and lower.

>> No.10565032

>>10564992
he might be good at investing in the traditional finance world but he's a retard in crypto-standards, his tech-based long term chosen shitcoins won't even exist in 2 years and he treats them like some long term bonds or shit like that.
He's a clueless boomer, mark my words. He doesn't even realize that his tokens would be worthless even if jibrel itself would be successful.

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>>10565020
>desperately wants the post and tries to get it over and over
>realizes he's SOL
>h-hans is an idiot anyways

>> No.10565120

>>10565032
at least this idiot consistently attacked hans the whole time instead of changing his tune after getting btfo

>> No.10565166

>>10565094
dude, just stop.You have been BTFO by every reply in this thread.This might be the biggest fail thread by an OP I have ever seen.Just stop and pray nobody else replies or notices your complete failure.

>> No.10565433

Luca, you're not going to make it

>> No.10565483

>>10564992
Yeah, Hans knows his shit but I'm not convinced he said he's going to sell if there's no good news on October 5th.

Besides, the lower the token gets, the less reason you have to sell, as you have to lose.

If JNT actually goes to $0.10, my $300k stack is basically worthless. I.e., gain very little by selling it, lose it very little if it goes to $0.0000001, and potentially gain a lot if the team's business development work actually results in the token being used.

All shitcoins are gambling. I just want to pick four or five that seem the least scummy and make bets on them.

Tbh, I think the category of "alts" right now is the like category of "Bitcoin" when Bitcoin started. You had to be a complete rucking idiot in other people's eyes in order to shovel a large amount (months of savings, cashing out your 401k, etc) of money into Bitcoin in those days.

It's just that the odds are even worse for someone now because there are so many alts. I compensate for this by trying to find promising ones and making multiple bets.

Alts today seem like the high-upside, contrarian bet that Bitcoin originally was.

Too many people believe in Bitcoin now for it moon as hard as it did. Gradually, more people have come to accept Bitcoin. Those same people have no come to accept alts yet.

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10565891

>11 posts by this id
what exactly is the point of this thread again?

>> No.10565917

>>10564252
>>10564547
>>10564629
>>10564686
>>10564724
>>10564776
>>10564847
>>10564931
>>10564992
>>10565094
>>10565120
Congrats on unironically being the biggest brainlet I've seen on /biz/ for the past few days. I wanted to post a brainlet wojak, but none in my folder would describe your stupidity sufficiently.

sage

>> No.10565932

>>10565166
again, pathetic. first you deny that what i'm saying is true, then once you get absolutely rekt you change your tune to soften the blow. on top of it all you STILL haven't found the information you're looking for because you're not smart enough to do a very simple search in the TG.

>>10565483
he implied just that. not a larp. there's always the chance we get good news from YAZ and TAL ;))))

the TG group even linked to this thread of mine here. sure they'll be pleased to see someone defending /ourboy/ hans in this cesspool of faggotry. (((thinking for yourself))) in crypto is financial suicide kiddos unless you are a very experienced investor. smart money defers to smarter money. you fags can go down with the ship if you want (although your >>10565483
point about diminishing returns is duly noted. in all candor i don't think hans will sell but i've never seen him this rattled by the project)

>> No.10565946

>>10565891
to laterally and underhandedly get a discussion of JNT going because every thread the past month dies. to honestly communicate that people with once rock solid conviction are wavering. to smite doubters and room temperature iq faggots such as >>10565917

>> No.10565963

>>10565946
>because every thread the past month dies
because nothing happened yet, what the fuck is there to discuss?
telegram faggot drama?
great thread

>> No.10565965

>>10565946
>you're stupid
>n-no you're stupid
Everyone itt already btfo'd you, yet you keep embarrassing yourself further. What's your end game here?

>> No.10565975

>>10565963
hans is a good metric of the community's confidence. it's not a moot point to bring the fact that he's having doubts over to you guys. look at the shitstorm this started if you disagree

>> No.10565995

>>10565965
>doubted you and were wrong
>btfo'd you
pick one kike

>> No.10566013

>>10565975
>hans is a good metric of the community's confidence
god I fucking hate crypto
why did I ever get into this shit

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>>10565995

>> No.10566033

>>10565891
IDK

I saw Hans message in the telegram.

Sounds like he thinks it will be a very important date and that the presence of nonpresence significant good news (instead of more teasing) will implications for the project. But he straight up said he wasn't thinking of selling.

Tbh, I think there are so many factors that go into a sell/hodl decision that it's likely a smart person like hans just isn't gonna be able to turn it into "yes, I'mma sell", or "no, I'mma hodl" like some people here would like.

And yeah, his writing style is uhh distinct and reminds me of my mom when I text her on Facebook, but he seems to

1. Be a careful/clever thinker

2. Know his shit (and he isn't a show-off or know-it-all, so if you're used to interacting with such people, you might miss the fact he isn't ignorant- not even close)

And 3. (my favorite) Not think like everyone else.

Those three things reassure me that JNT is the kind of bet I'm looking for: one with huge upside potential in a space where most people aren't looking, that isn't a scam, isn't complete bullshit for suckers.

If he sells because of lack of news, I'm gonna keep holding because that doesn't change the upside potential or the legitimacy (i.e., that they're not a scam) of the team, so it still belongs in my selection of small* bets.

If I had some reason to think the team was scamming us or had no massive upside potential, I'd sell.

Btw, I think of this as different from playing the lottery, similar to how playing poker is different from playing roulette.

*- I actually fomo'd into jnt before they changed how jcash would be backed and before I started thinking about how to approach betting on shitcoins and have a position that is probably too large. Take my thoughts with a grain of salt. It's not advice.

>> No.10566046

>>10566021
>sage
>keeps posting shit-tier memes
nice conviction there stefan

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>>10566033
stop

hitting

two

enters

after

every

fucking

sentence

jesus fucking christ

>> No.10566058

>>10566013
because you're poor and thought you could make a lot of money without having any patience or intelligence (which humorously is why you're poor to begin with)

>> No.10566071

>>10566058
>because you're poor
keep projecting, I own a wholesale business and I earn probably more than you or anyone in this shit thread

>> No.10566092

30k JNT I bought high first 5k but I think I DCA'd to maybe 18cents/JNT. Hope that's enough to make it in 2 years. Going to swing trade some more maybe I can do another 10% in the next few days if I'm lucky

>> No.10566094

>>10566033
he has a good mind and yes thinks out of the box and off-kilter which isn't a bad thing. you read his post a lot more optimistically than i did. read the post above that one too. he is obviously not as confident but he's looking at a much more zoomed out picture than just JNT

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>>10566046
>getting baited by everyone ITT
>acts smug because too stupid to realize
How's your second month in here?

>> No.10566120

>>10566071
extremely doubt you earn more than me through that but i'll concede you're likely not poor. now kindly fuck off if you're not going to discuss JNT or any of the TG stuff

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>> No.10566124

>>10565975
>hans is a good metric of the community's confidence

I mean, yeah, but in the JNT community, you have Chinese retards coming in to shriek at the team for not doing "market management" and then dudes who don't seem to know anything. Hans is a surprisingly interesting perspective, but the rest not so much. I'm not sure it means much if the rest of the community has no confidence. It might even be a good thing- some kind of anti-wisdom of the crowd for when the crowd is retarded. Like always doing the opposite of what biz says.

>> No.10566148

>>10566114
>would have just posted the screen if asked nicely
>take all of these faggots through a bunch of hoops because they think they're baiting me
you should leave the internet for a while if you didn't gather that

>> No.10566174

>>10566148
What a reddit response. Sasuga, telegram nigger.

>> No.10566206

>>10566174
virgin confirmed. you aren't owed shit lad

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>>10566206
Now you've lost it completely.

>> No.10566275

>>10566124
do you personally have more or less confidence in all of this than you did a month ago? hans doesn't speak for the whole community, i get that. but from what i've read it's not just hans. there are other intelligent perspectives being dished out on this project, just not on the TG and definitely not on this siberian candlestick design forum. those perspectives aren't too optimistic either. the question is whether it's JNT per se or the crypto market as a whole.

>> No.10566291

>>10566148
Please stop.I feel bad for you at this point.

>> No.10566306

>>10566275
the whole of crypto has a negative sentiment in the last month you needledick.Its flowing over to every fucking telelgram. Just have some patience you retard.

>> No.10566334

>>10566094
Yeah, his messages prior to that one almost express a high level of disdain for altcoins. I don't know him well enough to know if he is asking a rhetorical question with an optimistic outlook or a negative one when he asks if altcoins are the purest junk vomited on the public, but I guess that could be seen as applying specifically to JNT?

I have trouble reading that as applying to JNT because I would unironically agree with altcoins being junk vomited on the public. Most are pure shit. However, some things make think JNT is not like the rest:

1. Supposed connections/partnerships/trials that the team has
2. Talal seems aware of the fact that they received way more money than they should have in their ico.
3. Someone on biz said they sold their eth from the ico instead of foolishly holding onto it? I'm not sure if that's true or not but that would be a reassuring sign of a non-shit project imo.

>> No.10566343

the narrow issue seems to be genuine concern on the development side, particularly surrounding the lack of the wallet. this + the general woefulness of the marketing and the continual delays. all of this seems oddly amateurish from my pov. they're so dominant on the business side of things but it's like they completely neglect some very simple shit that would inspire investors and get them a lot more attention in the space

>> No.10566350

>>10566275
>22 posts by this ID
Please stop it. Just stop it. Subhuman races shouldn't be allowed to post on this board

>> No.10566382

Confirmed that it takes like thirty seconds to find the secret telegram if someone wants to find it so badly.

>>10566334
I mean, if i bet on five teams of honest retards with lofty visions, maybe one of them will succeed.

If I bet on five teams of smart scammers or retarded scammers, probably none will succeed. Or if I bet on honest retards chasing something with low potential, etc.

I think JNT belongs on the first case, even if Hans gets impatient. They seem to have the connections and money and non-scamminess and a big goal. I just can't tell if they're retarded. That's worth going in a bag of four or five coins.

>> No.10566388

>>10566343
And all these other booming projects they have released products are...?They all set deadlines that were too optimistic.Jibrel were honest that they did and corrected them with deadlines they felt were achievable.NOTHING in this space has a finished product.

>> No.10566496

>>10566382
>>10566275
Meant to reply to you, not myself, in previous update.

And desu, I lost confidence in this project the first time they changed how jcash worked. That was a sign that maybe the team is retarded / doesn't know what they're doing. And also a sign that the upside potential (which is absolutely critical- I don't want something that will maybe 10x with high risk.) may be curtailed, though it still seems to exist so far.

When I changed it again, I was like... Yep. They raised millions and still aren't sure what they want to do. So retarded factor is there. Though the awareness that they need to change course is a positive sign. Nothing since the first change to jcash has lowered my confidence since that first change to jcash.

The mystery pump to $0.60 actually increased my confidence on the loss side, though. It makes me think that if I do decide this coin is no longer a fit for me, then rather than selling for virtually nothing, there may be a pump due to testing with a partner that lets me exit with merely a net 1.5x or a 2x instead of the 100x or more I was imagining.

By the time I lose all confidence, though, another pump to $0.60 may actually be a 10x, if we look at the current trend in price.

>> No.10566552

>>10566334
>3. Someone on biz said they sold their eth from the ico instead of foolishly holding onto it? I'm not sure if that's true or not but that would be a reassuring sign of a non-shit project imo.
i think this is true. i remember someone in the TG a couple months back saying the eth had been liquidated

>>10566382
i agree and that's similar to my thinking. i don't think they're retarded per se but they could very well be in over their heads and overly ambitious. in the end it seems like an honest project with good goals and a shitload of meaningful connections and are approaching it in a very compliant and regulated way that i've not really seen elsewhere. these guys are young but they have allegedly managed real money in the big-boy financial world not some faggot crypto SV world.
but why the fuck can't they build out a wallet? more importantly why are they SO shit at advertising/marketing in this space? it's not like they're actual boomers. that stuff confuses me. they raised 30M ffs, they can't hire a badass marketing team and 5 more quality devs? remember them trying to have a community meme contest a few months ago? fucking weird.

>> No.10566608

>>10566496
i'll definitely be taking my initial investment money out much sooner than i initially planned to when i bought in earlier this year. that is if the project itself doesn't go to shit

>> No.10566724

New computer instead of phone-posting since I might be taking longer to write longer responses.

>>10566275
>from what i've read it's not just hans. there are other intelligent perspectives being dished out on this project, just not on the TG and definitely not on this siberian candlestick design forum.

My only source of crypto discussion is this mongolian nightstick polishing forum. Haven't found any better, though I haven't tried bitcointalk yet. I sometimes peek at the telegram but there's too much that isn't useful. Would you feel comfortable suggesting any others?


> the question is whether it's JNT per se or the crypto market as a whole.
I think the crypto market could become actually useful now. Granted, that depends on reliably getting information onto and off of the blockchain, unless trustlessness is not as important as we all think and decentralization is the true benefit of crypto... (I'm not sure what to do in that case. It's just something I thought about for a sec once.)

Computers are useless without real input and output, even decentralized, "trustless" ones. I think we're close enough to changing that for legitimate altcoin projects to have a chance of being successful.
{Field too long, continuing in ext post]

>> No.10566736

>>10566608
That's sort of how I had felt but now I have more of a feeling that once the price starts to pick up again it will get some momentum. That's assuming the market in general starts to turn in a more favorable direction around the same time.

>> No.10566746

>>10566724
Altcoin market in general is filled with scams and idiots, but I think also that it was never possible for these projects to be successful in the first place. They're built on slow shitty databases that you can/t reliably get data into and out of.

Maybe the slow shitty part is the part holding everyone back and date in / out is a meme. But I think it's the data in/out part that matters. And I'm not even talking about the obvious meme of ChainLink (which I do hold, desu). Even if ChainLink fails, big companies like FAANG+M may build their own oracle solution. Microsoft is certainly interested in providing oracles in the form of their so-called "cryptlets". Maybe even Oraclize decides they're going to offer a reliable service, maybe even a decentralized one. There are strong incentives here.

>> No.10566857

>>10566343
>it's like they completely neglect some very simple shit that would inspire investors

I kind of wonder if they gain anything from having more investors at this point. If there's no incentive, then maybe they just don't go for it.

If team tokens are locked up for years, they may be content to let us all bleed and shriek if it means they can convince institutional entities that theyre buying in early so they won't get dumped on.

Imagine you want to tokenize $250M. I can't remember the most recent percentage of JNT required to tokenize, but let's say it's like 80%.

To tokenize $250M, you have to buy $200M JNT from somewhere. And if you're buying from speculators who just want to dump their bags and run, then you have to buy even more JNT. You have to keep burning money until all the speculators have run out the door.

It wouldn't surprise me if, the lower the price of JNT, the easier it will be to convince deep-pocketed entities to enter.

>> No.10566969

>>10566724
check out bitcointalk there's a good thread that could be great with some more activity

>>10566736
that's the question, is the general market about to be in the shitter for 2-3 years? that's the fear. i'm personally ok with waiting even longer for all this to get adopted but most guys on biz are trying to make it sooner

>>10566857
i've thought about this angle too. does it help them for their institutional investors to buy in at 13c as opposed to 80c? do they want to keep the price low for now, and that's why we're stuck on shit exchanges and there's zero marketing hype?

i mean let's think about it in terms of their partners: if SEED group or the western european central bank wanted them to advertise and have good marketing... they'd fucking do it, right?

>> No.10567002

>>10566969
Hoping for the better but who knows "they" might stick it to us. The team does seem to be sticking by their build now market later credo.

>> No.10567119

>>10566969
>check out bitcointalk there's a good thread that could be great with some more activity

I'll look for that. Thanks!

> does it help them for their institutional investors to buy in at 13c as opposed to 80c? do they want to keep the price low for now, and that's why we're stuck on shit exchanges and there's zero marketing hype?

If institutional money is paranoid about losing money, then that wouldn't surprise me at all. Imagine you think crypto is maybe a giant ponzi or pump and dump market and some seemingly-honest startup comes to you, saying they can make your life waaaaaay easier if you just buy their internet coins. Btw, a bunch of people bought these first hoping to sell to someone else.

Also, think from the team's perspective, you have a bunch of strangers on the internet who wanted to get rich quick coming in to complain that they're not getting rich quick, when from your perspective the project was overvalued at $30M (ICO price, right?). I think it would take massive amounts of patience and empathy to care about these people, or even avoid actively disliking them when they're constantly mad at you and to you it seems like, obviously they shouldn't have bought the thing that was overpriced, and they're probably just greedy jerks.

> if SEED group or the western european central bank wanted them to advertise and have good marketing... they'd fucking do it, right?

Don't we have evidence that their partners want them to *avoid* advertising? I thought they tweeted that they were going to announce some partner and that partner made them take it down or something.

>> No.10567195

>>10567119
>Also, think from the team's perspective, you have a bunch of strangers on the internet who wanted to get rich quick coming in to complain that they're not getting rich quick

And let me be clear, I don' think they're going to be spiteful and fuck with anyone. But I don't think they're going to try to market to increase the price in the short term just for us speculators out of the kindness of the hearts. It would take time, effort, other resources, wouldn't directly benefit them personally, may not directly benefit the project, and could theoretically not be great for making big partnerships.

Assume they do try to market. How does that go?

1. It's an uphill battle in a bear market
2. The price can't increase forever. Even if they market hard and the price goes up for a while, eventually there are no more speculators lining up to buy and big money still isn't in. Does the price start tanking at that point? Have they just created even more speculators? All they did is increase the price one time and they can't even sell into it because their tokens are locked, lol

>> No.10567248

Gonna shower. Not gonna check this for like, a little over an hour if anyone is interested in chatting

>> No.10567497

>>10567119
>Also, think from the team's perspective, you have a bunch of strangers on the internet who wanted to get rich quick coming in to complain that they're not getting rich quick, when from your perspective the project was overvalued at $30M (ICO price, right?). I think it would take massive amounts of patience and empathy to care about these people, or even avoid actively disliking them when they're constantly mad at you and to you it seems like, obviously they shouldn't have bought the thing that was overpriced, and they're probably just greedy jerks.
totally agree with this. moreover, they're just random fucks hounding you 24/7 about price price price when you're out there making really good moves in really important circles. it's not like most other projects where these people would constitute your actual user base, the people you *need* to persuade. with JNT all of these biz and telegram fags could fuck off and they'd be totally fine because they're not even JNT's target market.

>Don't we have evidence that their partners want them to *avoid* advertising? I thought they tweeted that they were going to announce some partner and that partner made them take it down or something.
Yeah a tweet got deleted, apparently a central bank got pissed at them for announcing the partnership prematurely. The speculation is that this is Central Bank of England which would be insane. Tapscott was over there a couple months ago meeting with CBoE to discuss blockchain. Could be a coincidence of course...

>>10567195
Well put. We're on the same page assuming that this is possibly the reason for the lack of polish on the dev/marketing side

>> No.10567685

Finally a decent a JNT thread again.

Just be patient. In the sea of shitcoins this is one of a handful of legit projects that excite me. It will still take a couple of years before altcoins decouple from BTC and JNT can really go mainstream, until then be glad you discovered this nugget so early. Get a position you are comfortable with now and wait.

>> No.10568029

Straight cancer thread, just how I like them

>> No.10568138

>>10567497
>with JNT all of these biz and telegram fags could fuck off and they'd be totally fine because they're not even JNT's target market.

I'm gonna say right now this is a massive plus that I forgot to mention earlier.

I don't just want four or five bets. Ideally, I would want four or five bets that avoid overlapping.

It seems like 99% of altcoins, you're ultimately betting that a normie will buy your bags. In my mind, that's just betting on whether the altcoin market will go up, and on whether you picked the lucky altcoin (or handful of altcoins) that gets everyone's normie fomo.

Not needing a mass of clueless speculators to buy my bags is like, so important to me I can't even find a word for it. Critical, I guess.

[And I kind of alluded to this, but I don't want to bet on something too vague, like "some crypto will become a store of value that displaces gold"* because right now, I'd have to split my money across so many different projects. BTC? ETH? BCH? Something else?

*And nowadays, it seems that enough people believe in the store of value meme that the massive, 100x upside may not even be attainable. I could imagine bitcoin doing 10x from here. 100x seems like a stretch. Now if I want to 100x, and I want to bet on some crypto displacing gold, then I have to split between BTC, ETH, BCH... I'm decreasing the potential payoff in the event that I do pick the winner.]

>> No.10568187

>>10568138
>Not needing a mass of clueless speculators to buy my bags is like, so important to me I can't even find a word for it. Critical, I guess.

One exception to this:
I bought a small bag of holo tokens. Probably the equivalent of buying 3000 ETH back when ETH was $1.20 each. I only skimmed the first part of one of their whitepapers, but "what if bitcoin worked like git" is basically like some random cool shower thought I would get excited about and then never pursue. It seems so crazy and different that I could imagine it being big and am happy to get a position for virtually nothing, even if the token itself does have some questionable properties (intended for normal people to transact with, no concept of "supply" as I understand it)

>> No.10569474

>>10567685
what other projects are you eyeing anon? i agree we are years away from JNT reaching its potential. never thought this would go anywhere until even 2020 desu. but the problem is it could tank way before if they don't figure out the jCash process successfully. they're still tinkering hence scrapping jBonds (thank fuck)

>>10568138
this is one of the main reasons i got into JNT in the first place. target market is institutions and they already had a very major institution onboard in dubai and were operating out of that institution's offices. as soon as i started reading articles about dubai wanting to be the first gov on the blockchain and thinking about how aggressive these sheiks could get with crypto as oil money dries up due to the rise of electric vehicles i immediately fomo'd in. if we can just get a corner on the dubai market alone i think we'll be rich as fuck in 5-7 years. this central bank in western europe is way beyond the scope of what i was even imagining when i first bought in.

>>10568187
don't know much about holo but will do some research. seems interesting