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/smg/ - Stock Market General Anonymous Fri Jul 27 22:33:25 2018 No.10453893 [Reply] [Original]

Weekend Forex edition

How did you guys do this week? We are halfway through earnings, what's your plans and plays for the next week?

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Basic rundown on options:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBAQtjyqNHw [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuTTzfa4ePE [Embed]

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>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 22:36:12 2018 No.10453928 File: 86 KB, 675x601, 30 yo precious metals boomer.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10453893

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 22:37:04 2018 No.10453939 File: 71 KB, 600x450, 67b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10453928 >TFW you're 32 and technically a GenXer

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 22:37:37 2018 No.10453945 File: 382 KB, 607x608, 1519958588834.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fourth for Bloody Monday.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 22:38:11 2018 No.10453950 >>10453945 I actually hope that monday is a good gains day for me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 22:39:20 2018 No.10453966 i shorted ccola and went long on tripadvisor on a hunch. was i dumb

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 22:41:03 2018 No.10453985 File: 22 KB, 500x281, large.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10453966 you get what you deserve

Anonymous Fri Jul 27 22:41:25 2018 No.10453991

Not gonna lie guys, all I want to do is be rich

I'm not talking, nice house and car rich, I've already got that

I want hookers and blow rich, I want yacht rich

I want so rich you need a bank account in europe rich

I grew up in poverty, no one in my family has made over 40k a year but me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 22:42:33 2018 No.10454006 >>10453991 Cut your teeth forex trading then

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 22:45:19 2018 No.10454035 File: 1.27 MB, 2238x2856, cCBOuzr.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10453928 That image desperately needs William Jennings Bryan

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 22:46:44 2018 No.10454053 File: 189 KB, 755x687, 1530673430183.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >KHC after hours

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 22:47:33 2018 No.10454066 >>10454035 Who is this faggot?

Anonymous Fri Jul 27 22:49:26 2018 No.10454087

>tfw went and got a trade, invested in stocks with everything i had to spare and am now going to college for free because i'm not retarded

I make 75k at 22 with a super low cost of living. Equivalent to 165k in San Francisco

I do online classes and am working towards a degree without paying anything because it all comes from investments. Yet, despite owning a house, having a brand new car, and a motorcycle, a wife and 2 kids, niggas still tell me I missed out.

Fuck your journalism degree Richard. You had a million handouts, I nearly starved to death. Fox and the grapes faggot. Call me when you can take a vacation to Vegas on a whim because money is free and you have plenty.

>>	Comfy Fri Jul 27 22:52:09 2018 No.10454125 >>10454066 Someone who never quite became president kek

Anonymous Fri Jul 27 22:57:50 2018 No.10454192
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started trading options this month, after having done forex, stocks, and crypto. i feel like i actually know what im expected to make, rather than hoping on some random chart indicator to be right for once.

Anonymous Fri Jul 27 22:58:55 2018 No.10454207

>>10454087
many of the rich players around us are poorly setting up their legacy
they buy the best money can buy but they can't buy a good son or daughter, the meek will inherit the earth is a true statement at this rate
Continue your path; if you're truly not retarded then you'll be fine, won't you?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 23:03:52 2018 No.10454269 can somebody post a picture of that big5guy with 2 uzis with one pointing at his head real quick

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 23:05:07 2018 No.10454287 >>10454087 >Equivalent to 165k in San Francisco kys

Anonymous Fri Jul 27 23:06:28 2018 No.10454301
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I just started to dwell into stock market after trading forex succesfully.

Can someone narrow down important dates and reports to watch out on?

In forex you mostly watch interest rate changes, NFP reports, central bwnk and their monetary policy changes, import/export ratios, news and technical analysis.

I have no fucking idea about earning reports, etc.. In stock market and what to keep an eye on. I did well witj just TA, but want to combine fundamentals also.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 23:13:37 2018 No.10454369 >>10454301 look into options for earnings play, if you like buying and holding, hedge by selling calls equivalent to your holdings

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 23:14:55 2018 No.10454383 >>10454207 Nothing is a greater tragedy of our time than parents not raising their own children. Also, bet on TSLA bankruptcy. The puts are dirt cheap compared to the implied rate of them defaulting on their debt based on CDS premiums.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 23:25:14 2018 No.10454457 >>10454287 So... you’re broke?

>>	Planes !Uvd7Gd5fCo Fri Jul 27 23:29:03 2018 No.10454487 if you guys think /smg/ is cancerous.. just remember they have a facebook for robinhood traders..

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 23:32:26 2018 No.10454524 >>10454383 TSLA is gonna be fine in the long term I think

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 23:33:19 2018 No.10454533 File: 399 KB, 587x470, Chiina has idea.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10454487 This sounds simply amazing. Can anybody join? Maybe I'll revive my grannybook.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 23:34:02 2018 No.10454550 >>10453991 based you're gonna make it

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 23:39:43 2018 No.10454614 >>10454383 The CDS was extremely low volume and not relative to the bond price. Probably intentionally done for a news story.

Anonymous Fri Jul 27 23:49:51 2018 No.10454722

>>10454524
This. You can bet on hitting 7-10% lower than it is now. 260-270 seems a reasonable drop. Past that the likelihood isn't good. A lot of things with Tesla don't make sense to most people. See: Bonds instead of using equity. Elon is doing everything he can to not dillute and maximize his own % owned. That explains the bonds in 2017. He is betting everything on longer term gain.

The key thing to Tesla is that literally everything they are in is absolutely shit right now. Electric Vehicles, Solar Power, Home Batteries. All of these things don't make sense in the context of immediate profit. The thing is the underlying technologies are all improving. Tesla battery costs are decreasing. Solar power costs are decreasing, gigafactory 2. etc.

Meaning at some point they hit a tipping point and become massively profitable without the baggage other companies have to deal with.

The only way it goes bankrupt as people think is if the underlying technology completely fails. That's not happening in any of the things Tesla is in so far. Every car company is struggling to figure out how to do an EV strategy. Which is exactly what you want to see.

People forget that Fuel Cell Vehicles used to be the thing car companies funded thinking Hydrogen would be the future due to stored energy density vs battery. Now all those clueless people who thought Tesla was insane are putting huge capital into batteries.

If you look at all predictable branches of the future. The one in which car companies see that tesla made the right move and attempt to chase them is the BEST one for Tesla. It means they are doing things very right.

Solarcity is what people should focus on with regards to TSLA though. As that is really what drags the companies near-term prospects into murkey waters. They did a majority of the recent layoffs and cost cutting in that area though.

Keep in mind trump did solar panel tariffs and there is very little competition vs demand

Anonymous Fri Jul 27 23:55:05 2018 No.10454779

>>10454722
I'm gonna be real with you, I work on a military base in a town of like 30k at most, and I've seen 6 or 7 Tesla cars. A lot of rural folk are looking into Tesla to for solar power in their homes.

When the average person thinks of Electric cars, they assume it's a Tesla. Short term, losses are gonna happen. But long term, Tesla is much in a position like Google was in the late 90s, either Tesla will fail or barely hang on like Yahoo did, or they with become the house hold name for Electric cars.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 23:56:29 2018 No.10454797 >>10454722 You're forgetting one thing. Trump just announced a space force. Who's the king of the space race right now? If I was going long term theyd be my #1

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 23:57:53 2018 No.10454812 >>10454797 cant invest in spacex Would be fun to see the IPO though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 23:58:37 2018 No.10454817 >>10454797 SpaceX is the only non scam Musk is running, theres a reason its private

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:00:08 2018 No.10454837

>>10454779
Tesla is in another "Waiting line" period. People really underestimate the effect of production picking up a little. The new owners become tesladrones once they get the car. Free advertising and every s o y boy in CA is going to want one after a while. This turns them into equivalent of apple people, buying the solar/battery hookup and going full tesla.

Regardless of economics of it, since economics basically don't matter in CA or most cities anyways one you get to that class of people buying starbucks every day.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:00:11 2018 No.10454838 >>10454817 Fuck, excuse me while I go short tesla

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:05:03 2018 No.10454881

>>10454838
>>10454817
He's buying millions in stock still though. Wouldn't you do the opposite?

I just think it's nearing an inflection point. People on the bullish side see production hitting good levels and demand being very high. People who hate Tesla can't imagine demand being high and think production is full of problems.

Both are probably right about all of these things. The production was terrible and fucked up for sure. Elon shit his pants on social media. Thing is the competition is probably even worse at electric than Tesla. Considering the huge head start they potentially had and all they are doing is low volume shit box electric carts with zany designs.

I don't think you can discuss Tesla without mentioning the fact every other car company laughed at them about 4 years too long.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:07:30 2018 No.10454900 >>10454881 he 100% has to raise billions in capital and there is no way he can go back to the bond market, at best he does a massive offering that crushes the stock

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:10:09 2018 No.10454928 >>10454881 Short term not long term

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:12:22 2018 No.10454946

>>10454900
Don't underestimate what options are available to Tesla right now aside from those two. The potential options for Tesla are gigantic especially with partnership opportunities in platform.

Depending on configuration volume they make $3500 from those, $1000 for solar panel reservations, etc.

There are lots of tricks he can use. Tesla Scooter reservations.

I'm just saying it's not as simple as we might perceive and Elon is very intelligent and imaginative at this. Apple for instance is 100% aimed at electric vehicles as a platform for their ecosystem. A deal like that might be literally on Elon's table right now ready to be signed if he needs cash.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:13:28 2018 No.10454953

>wife and I are looking for a threesome
>match with a girl the next city over
>ask her where some good places to eat in her city are
>She says some cheap ass diner, has never ate at the 200 dollar min place I mention

I don't even know what to say.

>>10454881
Tesla is th leading electrix car company. Once they can get a sub 15k car out there, they'll be unstoppable. Fuck if I needed a cheap family sedan and Tesla had a sub 15k car I'd buy it because gas is expensive.

Tesla really needs to get an Electric Motorcycle out. It would be cheap, and the market has effectively lost Harley so Tesla can fill the void as this American bike company

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:14:17 2018 No.10454959

>>10454946
It's probably wishful thinking, but imagine if Tesla has a deal like that on the table. It would 100% be under NDA, and Elon could be looking at it, go to media, say no need to raise money, and continue on until Tesla hits $0, he walks to the desk, signs it, and continues on.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:16:33 2018 No.10454979 >>10454722 You realize the company literally runs out of money this quarter without another capital raise, right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:18:24 2018 No.10454995 >>10454979 ive heard this from biz like 5 times already memes!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:19:08 2018 No.10454999 >>10454979 I would just hold my breath till wednesday at least. I just see far too many opportunities with Tesla. Many of them not mentioned intentionally. There is something very weird going on with Elon and sandbagging Tesla so far.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:20:09 2018 No.10455010 >>10454999 What I mean is. Elon is intentionally doing certain things over the past few months to sandbag the stock. I have no idea why. The wierd t

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:22:07 2018 No.10455032 File: 583 KB, 1038x896, #metoo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I honestly thought IQ was safe from this shit but is not. goodbye Netflix and IQ.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:22:38 2018 No.10455038 File: 90 KB, 950x515, 1516669891874.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why is there never an earnings call in the middle of the day? It is always before open or after close.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:23:28 2018 No.10455050

>>10454995
Truth be told, there was a report in WSJ about this capital raising.
Couldn't find the WSJ article but Forbes did a rather comprehensive write up of the Tesla situation.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimcollins/2018/07/24/as-tesla-begs-its-suppliers-for-capital-nio-has-raised-billions-from-some-of-teslas-key-investors/

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:23:33 2018 No.10455051

>>10455010
>>10454999

I think Elon has something up his sleeve that will make the stock go up.

Not by a ton but still by a good chunk. Elon isn't stupid, but at the same time this two main ventures are proving less and less valuable. Spacex will never go Public so that leaves Tesla to hit the brunt of the shitshow

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:25:07 2018 No.10455068 >>10454946 bro, he needs literal billions by the beginning of the year. Real cash, they won't be able to meet their obligations. Also, they promised 35K car and are delivering 65K cars

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:25:47 2018 No.10455072

>>10454999
checked. He was trying to pump the stock for a short squeeze. He failed when an analyst downgraded after they hit 5k. Don't think calling a guy a pedo and doxxing seeking alpha posters is all part of the plan. That conference call is going to be entertaining af for sure though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:26:10 2018 No.10455074 Is day trading on $100 even worth the time?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:28:05 2018 No.10455092 >>10455038 Because retail doesn't deserve opportunities to react

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:28:33 2018 No.10455096 >>10455038 So the market can handle the huge spike. No option trading.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:28:43 2018 No.10455100 >>10455074 Its worth the time yes. A friend of mine made 100 dollars off a 40ish dollar investment on microsoft calls wednsday you have to be extra smart and you can make good calls and win big

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:29:14 2018 No.10455107

>>10455072
There was something else to it. Things didn't add up logically. Like a missing piece to everything that Elon knew and held back.

That is my analysis, could definitely be wrong, but from all available information there is something missing that elon knows about.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:32:27 2018 No.10455140

>>10455107
My initial thing is that he is planning a new short squeeze.

Thing is yeah, he could have wanted to short squeeze sunday before july. Hoping for the +40 jump to trap the shorts. He might be out of ammo now and only able to do slight pumps.

Thing is I can't help but feel he definitely has some mega trap card in his pocket and was goading in shorts/puts.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:32:49 2018 No.10455142 >>10455100 >extra smart extra lucky

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:33:00 2018 No.10455146 >>10455107 >>10455072 Look if I'm not 80% sure I don't trade it. It's made me money even if I had to let some stuff go. I'm completely unsure because of his confidence. I still think it's going down but it's a 60% so I won't touch it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:34:10 2018 No.10455158 >>10455142 there's always information that's overlooked, sometimes by accident and sometimes on purpose you'll see it more when you peel back that layer finally

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:34:27 2018 No.10455161 >>10455074 It's unironically a great way to experience the inevitable blowing up your account without losing a huge amount. I'm not being flip; $100 is cheap to learn that lesson

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:36:25 2018 No.10455177 >>10455161 I learned it without losing money. Barely made the cut before it dumpsters and I would have lost 4k. No more risky shut for me unless the reward is equally as good. 1:10 reward to risk is retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:37:33 2018 No.10455185 >>10455146 I definitely think it has a chance to reward shorts. I'm not going to argue it doesn't. Things just are not adding up. There is something to the picture that elon is either bluffing or hiding.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:37:43 2018 No.10455187 >>10455074 no go long SPX if you have approx. $3000 total and hodl active trading requires capital or you'll just get fucked by fees and taxes m80

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:39:40 2018 No.10455205 >>10455185 Yes I feel like this is going to be one of those slight greens before it either moons or dumpsters because there's good news and then the real thing that's up hits. We've been seeing these alot lately.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:39:46 2018 No.10455206 >>10455187 What if I have no fees and don't have a real job? Then can I daytrade my pittances

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:40:24 2018 No.10455213 File: 347 KB, 1503x679, amd_chads.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How accurate is this?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:41:41 2018 No.10455227 >>10455213 And is only going up because Intel fucked up big. Wait until next generation to see if they'll be a thing or not.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:42:34 2018 No.10455237

>>10455185
>either bluffing or hiding
He's bluffing.
Elon has no cards up his sleeve he's a master at the "visionary" meme. To be bullish on Tesla means you think one of the actually smart people he's surrounded himself with by getting lucky + government help will be able to come up with something to save the company. Musk is his own figurehead

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:42:50 2018 No.10455239 >>10455187 That does raise a good question; what kind of taxes are associated with day trading?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:43:29 2018 No.10455246 Elon wouldn't be calling pedos unless he had nothing to lose or no worries about gains

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:43:49 2018 No.10455247 >>10455239 Short term capital gains

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:43:59 2018 No.10455250 >>10454066 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFtcLJVN8yg

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:44:11 2018 No.10455252 >>10455239 Capital gains, basically income tax. It's 15% if you've had it for a year. There are plans that are tax free too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:45:05 2018 No.10455257 >>10455246 This is what's not adding up. Is he selling the company or something to Apple including all his shares? Something is not adding up for me. It's bizarre and I can't shake it.

>>	Comfy Sat Jul 28 00:46:08 2018 No.10455268 >>10455206 1) get a job, you communist 2) Save 15% of your income in healthy, high dividend stocks and index funds 3) that's it

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:46:34 2018 No.10455270

>>10455206
bro what are you thinking?
get a job and secure yourself financially at least in the short term with a reliable income before you think about memetrading
that is unless you're under 23 and living with your parents in which case daytrade if you want but getting a job and setting up a Roth IRA is still way smarter.
Roths are a massive asset on your journey to making it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:46:53 2018 No.10455275 File: 9 KB, 200x200, hyped.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10455227 One day in the future when I walk into a Best Buy or Microsoft Store and check out the computers, they'll all have a shiny AMD sticker on them.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:48:48 2018 No.10455292 [DELETED]

It all makes sense now. Teslapple.

Deduction finished.

China factory. Apple Car secrecy (R&D is going into Tesla). Elon musk was more concerned with proving manufacturing capability to Apple than to public or investors. Once he hits 5k steady the deals goes through?

That is what it seems like.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:52:17 2018 No.10455323 File: 20 KB, 100x125, animeeee.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10455292 >Teslapple has a good ring to it anon I like this plan

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:53:48 2018 No.10455336 [DELETED]

Thought vector analysis completed. Elon's antics are designed to allow him to step back from tesla with a softer landing, but still take a lesser position (not ceo since it will be purchased).

Every single action he has made makes sense in the context of a big software company taking over Tesla soon. PRoduction milestones not meant to pump stock or be cheered on by him. Meant to prove manufacturing capability which is why the deal hasn't happened yet.

This makes the most sense of all possible realities to me right now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:55:14 2018 No.10455350 >>10455323 yep, sadly I didn't see this till now. The vectors all line up perfect to Elon Musk's actions. 100% makes sense now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:58:49 2018 No.10455386 Tesla going to go down a lot on ER?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:58:57 2018 No.10455387 >>10455292 So how would one even bet on this? It all depends on the apple share transfer price which we don't know yet. Could be up or down.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:59:54 2018 No.10455400 ya'll need to remember Elon just wants to get niggas to Mars before he dies He really doesn't give a shit about profit, stocks or any of that>

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:00:34 2018 No.10455408 >>10455386 We don't know that's what this is all about. That it's not worth betting on such uncertainty. I refuse to believe musk would lash kit without a Trump card hidden and this apple thing sound perfect.

>>	Comfy Sat Jul 28 01:01:23 2018 No.10455416 File: 214 KB, 1010x673, 4527.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tesla >fan boys

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:02:14 2018 No.10455420 >>10455350 Why would apple buy a company for 50billion when it could wait until it shits the bed and buy it for under 5 million? TSLA is not priced for a buyout.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:04:26 2018 No.10455438 >>10455416 Tesla A losing game. Think they'll go the way of HMNY? :^) (I love watching their stocks fall now)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:04:43 2018 No.10455440 Tesla is gonna be fine. Spacex probably will pay for the growth

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:06:01 2018 No.10455450 >>10455420 What about a merger? Or if they're just selling production lines and the car concept instead of the whole Company? Where exactly are the lines located? Nowhere important right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:06:11 2018 No.10455451 >>10455440 literally illegal.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:06:37 2018 No.10455455 >>10455420 Exactly. It would be a ridiculous Buyout and a really bad Calls.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:07:43 2018 No.10455463
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>>10455213
what if you've sold it all and re-bought the later dip a few times now?
my average price is $14.25 right now
but the first time i bought AMD stocks it was $5.00

also unrelated to stocks, but is anyones crypto on robinhood unavailable? cant buy or sell or place any kind of order all night

impending fugg, or just cheap broker temperary patch work?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:07:51 2018 No.10455464 >>10455416 top fucking kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:08:54 2018 No.10455470 >>10455451 Literally how? >I own a burger joint >I own a jew gassing plant >jew gassing isn't too good this year, so I use profits from my burger joint to as more jews >this is illegal

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:09:49 2018 No.10455476

>>10455450
They have 4 lines (one in a fucking tent) that can barely squeeze out 5k cars while working 24/7. The lines are in fremont CA. The company has over promised and undelivered every step of the way, is on the brink of insolvency and is kept afloat only by its public image and a cult like following.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:11:24 2018 No.10455488 >>10455470 >own 24.6% of a burger joint >own 54% of a jew gassing plant >rob from 75% of your burger joint shareholders to pay for your jew gassing plant It is literally stealing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:11:27 2018 No.10455491 >>10455476 I hate cult brands I want to get in on the walmart generic cereal market and margins.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:11:56 2018 No.10455495
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>>10455451
>literally illegal.
only if they try to hide it (from either companies investors)

you can donate all your money to tesla if you truly wanted to, its not illegal for them to accept gifts of cash

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:15:18 2018 No.10455520 >>10455476 So you admit it's keeping afloat.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:15:34 2018 No.10455522 >>10455491 I guess I missed the day everyone got into GIS and cereal Is the hype based on population growth or something else?

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:16:44 2018 No.10455531

>>10455495
Hiding is only one way it is illegal. A CEO has a fiduciary duty of care, duty of loyalty and duty of disclosure. He would be violating the other two as well.

>>10455520
It is losing money on every single car it makes and is running out of cash to keep the lights on.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:18:04 2018 No.10455539 >>10455522 https://youtu.be/lC9jV3SHrfw?t=205 Valuation. Dividend yield. Whole video is worth watching to learn ya something.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:21:43 2018 No.10455560 >>10455531 >It is losing money Per unit their margin is quite high, the losses are from (possibly excessive) capital expenidtures afaik. Do you have any proofs otherwise? Also reminder that Amazon was burning through cash in its early years.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:30:28 2018 No.10455615 GN has the best pc hardware news. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3KT3NCBr4U Very intelligent, high output rate, goes into rumors with very good accuracy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:34:07 2018 No.10455635 File: 132 KB, 2089x800, kraftlogolarge.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10455038

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:37:21 2018 No.10455653 Retards thinking Tesla makes it to Q2 2019 ARE. NEVER. GOING. TO. MAKE. IT.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:37:51 2018 No.10455655 >>10455635 I do wonder what their earnings will look like. The Meats industry is looking at a ridiculous surplus, and given the changes in ag prices for corn, onions, and wheat, I wonder if their earnings have taken a hit...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:40:21 2018 No.10455667 File: 157 KB, 999x587, 901.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10455213 kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:42:41 2018 No.10455684 >>10455667 >get out of NVDA over china/crypto fears It's going to moon now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:43:05 2018 No.10455689 >>10455038 So the SEC doesn't have to halt trading.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:46:48 2018 No.10455707 >>10455684 Pls tell me you got out of MU too >tfw 100 shares at $54.50

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:47:45 2018 No.10455716 >>10455560 http://ir.tesla.com/node/18711/html Do you have proof that their per unit margin is high? I saw the teardown but that isn't proof. Their earnings paint a different picture. Amazon didn't miss growth target after growth target.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:48:33 2018 No.10455719 >>10455539 Only a bit into this video rn but thanks for the link I like it so far

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:51:32 2018 No.10455742

>>10453939
ive always liked the genX presence on imageboards. it provides a necessary balance

>>10454006
how the fuck do you git gud at forex? learn python? it doesnt seem feasible doing it by hand

>>10454192
i <3 options
kicks the shit out of crypto imo

>>10454979
>You realize the company literally runs out of money this quarter without another capital raise, right?
i didnt realize it was so soon

Comfy Sat Jul 28 01:56:05 2018 No.10455767
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Official press release from Autism Incorporated:
Tesla plunges after earnings after a large miss,
Investors realize they've invested in a massive scam
At least 10% fall after earnings

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:57:33 2018 No.10455774
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>>10455520
the only thing keeping TSLA afloat is orchestrated FUD pieces gettng retail to flip short, him writing puts, launching some PR piece to squeeze retail, then hes been using the puts to buyback the stock.

hes gone the extra mile desu very quick thinking on his part

doesnt change that no one will lend his sorry ass money if this keeps up. he can only do this media shit if things stay bullish overall. weve already seen what a sideways market does for TSLA. a full on bear market would be a capitulation for TSLA HODLers

>>	Planes !Uvd7Gd5fCo Sat Jul 28 02:00:46 2018 No.10455792 File: 131 KB, 700x932, 1531065624531.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10455767 tell me more

>>	Comfy Sat Jul 28 02:02:31 2018 No.10455801 >>10455792 A video will be released of grimes pegging Elon while he cries out "I swear to fucking allah all short sellers will die, inshallah.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 02:03:21 2018 No.10455806

>>10455767
decent prophecy desu senpai

check mine
it came to me while i was in trance state three nights ago
the bogs told me:
>AMZN vill beat earnings
>zis vill do nothing to stop ze bleeding
>ve are going to liquidate every von of zat faggot redditors positions
>his brokerage account vill lay empty beneath ze bloodmoon

so far the first half is right
we just need to check on that one redditor and see if he experiences total loss or not

>>	Comfy Sat Jul 28 02:05:04 2018 No.10455818 File: 5 KB, 195x250, 1486783073691.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10455806 This is a good prophecy, I'll go check on reddit

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 02:05:47 2018 No.10455826 File: 2.22 MB, 297x229, 1531144423491.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10455801

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 02:09:44 2018 No.10455846 >>10455818 i have a sneaking feeling that guy would be dumb enough to hold onto those calls. especially with the sunken cost fallacy of losing the last two plays. didnt TWTR tank too? i didnt pay attention to any of that garbage

>>	Comfy Sat Jul 28 02:12:49 2018 No.10455870 >>10455846 Looks like the faglord with the massive amounts of cash on options came out alive, down 35% in one day but he's still up for the year Then there is this guy...

>>	Comfy Sat Jul 28 02:13:51 2018 No.10455879 File: 120 KB, 771x796, gggg.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10455870 fuck forgot pic

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 02:16:36 2018 No.10455898
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>>10455879
these faggots really go all out

fuck man so goddamned stupid
why not manage your fucking risk if youre just gonna be a faggot?

and then you got them and their retarded friends stealing our fucking memes. fuck reddit with 10 barbed penii

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 02:18:24 2018 No.10455912 >>10455879 All of these losses happened since Wednesday. Lost half to FB calls. Thought it would rally like NFLX so I lost the rest down to $500. Then threw my last $500 at an OTM AMZN FD cuz apparently I hate money.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 02:20:12 2018 No.10455930
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>>10455898
i dont even know how they do it. they take everything thats autistic that comes from over here, mess it up, somehow make it even more cringe, and then do it loudly everywhere until its completely ruined for all of us

>>10455912
LOL
wait thats you?
why not do fucking debit spreads or something?
wtf is wrong w you m8?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 02:21:12 2018 No.10455939 >>10455912 dude, just bet on QQQ for FANG earnings. You get free correlation because those fuckers always trade together which basically nets you extra IV for your premium vs buiying a single stock option.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 02:22:00 2018 No.10455949 >>10455930 >>10455939 copy pasta from the thread, not me.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 02:22:53 2018 No.10455955

>>10455939
>You get free correlation because those fuckers always trade together
well that was that other guys plan, and that didnt work out so hot this time

why does reddit try to pretend were still in 2017 bull market mode? this is an entirely different market

i agree w the rest of your post though

>>10455949
oh i gotcha

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 02:35:25 2018 No.10456056 File: 10 KB, 400x400, 1530141287013.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >weekend

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 02:37:30 2018 No.10456072

>>10455270
I’m 19 and living with my parents. I’m as summer as summer gets tbqhfamalam. I first heard about Roths in my consumers ed class in senior year. Didn’t think too much of it but I’ll remember now for when I’m done with uni meme. Also I’m same anon just in dumb phoneposter mode.

>>10455879
Based, saved

>>10455898
I blame the last election for his tendies joke.
Wasn’t rdonald one of the biggest leddit boards or something?
/pol/ was a mistake but how has he heard of the TVIX ER/is a company meme? That is one of my favorite secret club jokes

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 02:41:25 2018 No.10456115

so what are your guys plans?
some shit im in
>short TUR
>short oil
>short gold
>long VIX

and some stuff im thinking about
>short HYG
>find a way to short the 2yr treasury with LEAPs options to harvest vega
>decide whether long bond yields are gonna blow out this crash, or if bonds are gonna moon
>long platinum as a hedge against metals short
>re-enter wheat and maybe basedbeans after dollar spike

idk
might short TSLA, but i hate gambling on ERs desu, and i doubt ill be able to get low IV options on them desu

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 02:47:58 2018 No.10456164 >>10456115 I decided to get out of Boomer no-tech mindset and purchased some SNAP

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 02:51:37 2018 No.10456193 >>10456072 You should be taking summer classes to graduate as early as possible if you're not working Don't forget about the almighty doubling time my man

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 02:57:15 2018 No.10456236

>>10456072
>I blame the last election for
pretty much everything desu

we will never see another regular election in any major cunt in the world. its all gonna be crazy online memetic warfare forever

>/pol/ was a mistake
it had to happen unfortunately. you can only keep news junkies like that from catching on to some things they arent supposed to know about for so long. i honestly believe the nazism was injected to marginalize the group early on, and it backfired. most on /new/ were libertarians. sadly the few smart ones from back then got caught up on da joos and missed the greater picture imo (its literally all about oil, and the nations that control it ie US KSA and israel)

>>10456164
im just trading on what my memes are telling me. ive been watching and trading a lot of bonds and vol, and after all the yield blowouts on HYG ive scored on, im convinced there is some serious credit risk out there. now were headed back to probably around 15-18 on the VIX, so i might grab some select memes if i get the opportunity, but honestly, the most "stable" stocks ive been getting good returns on are OTC. and theyre irrelevant so i dont have to worry about the market (which im very bearish on if you havent noticed).

tho i have to say i dont think were in for a crash just yet. we could definitely use one good correction tho to flush out the jitters. going long (longterm) in this market is ridiculous. absolutely NOTHING has been keeping its gains. the big boys ride it up to the top, and then use ERs stacked bids to dump into in AH. i dont like being part of that

besides ive been getting very consistent w my oil plays. fuck stocks for now senpai

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 03:00:55 2018 No.10456271 >>10456236 I've always held that it's not about oil specifically. That's just one aspect. It's about market forces as a whole, their interplay, and how to leverage it for the greatest benefits. Be it for the self or for the state and the economy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 03:07:39 2018 No.10456319 File: 368 KB, 455x470, mousesmoke.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10456236 yeaaaaah well I disagree

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 03:08:45 2018 No.10456324 File: 81 KB, 892x813, mooon.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Friendly reminder AMD will reach $54 by EOY

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 03:09:16 2018 No.10456331 Bored now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 03:09:21 2018 No.10456332 >>10456324 Looks more like a bubble than sustainable growth...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 03:24:23 2018 No.10456437 >>10456319 lol didnt realize it was you m8 either way, you have to admit, this is more than just dumb luck. this is the third large VIX spike ive been able to call in advanced and place long trades on.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 03:26:08 2018 No.10456447 >>10456271 couldnt agree more the more ive learned about the markets and come to understand the various parts and how they interact, the better ive gotten

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 03:28:50 2018 No.10456461 >>10456332 >Friendly reminder AMD will reach $54 by EOY >reach key word there

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 03:31:37 2018 No.10456469 >>10456324 >AMD >new paradigm >catching up to intel and hoping to take a small % of market share

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 03:32:39 2018 No.10456474 >>10456437 According to the Cot, Large specs are increasing short positions on the vix each week

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 03:41:06 2018 No.10456506

>>10456474
ive been doing that too
its good, ez money down here
you short whatever you can get for a spike, then ride it to like 11. and if youre a large spec, you dont give a shit about getting blown out (as it has a predefined height it cant go beyond), and can comfortably short it continuously, using spikes to double in for max gainz

but i dont think that signifies that were in for no vol. i think it signifies that theyre getting ready to have a VIX spike to short and ride down, then complete their trade

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 03:42:32 2018 No.10456510 >>10456474 its funny cuz its basically what all those redditors were doing with XIV. they nuked them, then stole their job

>>	2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jul 28 04:04:37 2018 No.10456627 File: 1.16 MB, 700x987, 04b77ae154c65de22193f727a3fb6a15.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] UGHHHHHHHHHHH What the fug. What am I even doing with my life

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 04:07:42 2018 No.10456643 >>10456627 Shorting bonds ?

>>	2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jul 28 04:13:28 2018 No.10456674 >>10456643 Nah, I somehow managed to close that out when TLT hit like 119.30 I'm 2/3 straight fucking cash rn. Wtf is up with DB? They missed pretty bad and had earnings of only 4 cents per share. Shouldn't they be dumping more?

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 04:27:54 2018 No.10456742

>>10456674
I dump my GILD shares at breakeven after Lord Shkreli said their CAR-T immuno oncology therapies might be a commercial dud (the main reason why Inwas bullish on them... Baggie gonna get AIDS'd :( )
I think DB's bullshit was ironically priced in and there are not more trantrum from lesser EU members

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 04:31:55 2018 No.10456762 >>10456742 *unironically priced in I mean... Also, I don't normally play the macro game meme but I am considering riding the UVXY Inc. option waves

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 05:58:52 2018 No.10457214 File: 101 KB, 627x285, everyfuckingday.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] good morning smg it's saturday huh guess we're fucked forever lads

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 07:45:52 2018 No.10457783 F

reluctant kneepad girl Sat Jul 28 09:04:46 2018 No.10458215
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Ugh cant invest in hallmark channel,

been watching their Christmas specials while watching charts, pretending me living their perfect world with Chad Handsomeface finding me as one true love on Christmas eve and everyone happy family ;_;

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 09:23:24 2018 No.10458285 Would you guys consider buying Starbucks stock considering they had a bad two years but are rolling out a China-wide delivery service soon?

>>	reluctant kneepad girl Sat Jul 28 09:26:49 2018 No.10458316 File: 98 KB, 1280x720, 1529894103434.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10457214 Kek

>>	reluctant kneepad girl Sat Jul 28 09:30:45 2018 No.10458351 >>10458285 Yes they hitting 65 again no problem

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 09:34:22 2018 No.10458382 >>10458215 Kys

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 09:41:33 2018 No.10458448 >>10458351 desu they never hit 65 ever

Standstill !STOPSME/Gg Sat Jul 28 09:51:50 2018 No.10458520
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I'm seriously considering to sell and short Paradox before the next interim report.
What do you niggas think?

Also, how is your week-end going? Did you stock up on Monster? Mowed that lawn?

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 10:08:13 2018 No.10458654

Some of you in the last thread were discussing investing in Africa. DO NOT DO THIS. I worked as an intelligence analyst making government reports on African nations for a while. The entire continent is a Muslim shithole. They do not care about business unless it is child slavery or ambushin UN compounds and raping/killing the workers. Save yourself the trouble. Africa is a lost cause.

>>	Standstill !STOPSME/Gg Sat Jul 28 10:09:57 2018 No.10458668 >>10458654 Say that to DMM.com pls

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 10:15:09 2018 No.10458711 >>10458654 Colonial wars are good and easy to win.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 10:18:55 2018 No.10458757 >>10458654 I got interested in their History and culture and I really African genes are slave genes Seriously these creatures just keep getting enslaved

reluctant kneepad girl Sat Jul 28 10:26:34 2018 No.10458846
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>>10458382
that would very unhallmark of me
none of women in hallmark channel movies every consider suicide

>>10458520
can we just post dead anime girl all thread
smg = /slaughtered manga girl/

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 10:27:46 2018 No.10458857 File: 324 KB, 550x344, wolves2B1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Whatrs a good broker for FOREX in the US ? (Specifically NY)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 10:29:52 2018 No.10458872 >>10458654 ok not that I don't believe you about africa but I'd be more inclined to respect that opinion if you posted a picture or a report or something so I can really be sure no larpo fren

>>	reluctant kneepad girl Sat Jul 28 10:30:10 2018 No.10458879 >>10458448 64.88 am practically $65 !

Standstill !STOPSME/Gg Sat Jul 28 10:30:57 2018 No.10458887
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>>10458846
>can we just post dead anime girl all thread
What are you talking about. There is no violence in the pic I posted. She just had her heart pierced by a cupid arrow, a very poetic and round-away way to say she fell in love.

>>10458872
Here it is a source

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 10:31:14 2018 No.10458890
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Hey /smg/, awhile back I had bought some stock in Sirius XM Holdings Inc. (SIRI) around when it was worth 6 dollars, after Howard Stern's entrance rather then before and I ended up losing money and basically forgot about my stocks in a fit of rage all together. I noticed in the last year it seems to be slowly moving up. Does anyone happen to know the reason for this?

I'm curious whether I should just sell now or see if it raises higher than what it is currently. If I sold now I would still be making profit after a long wait, but now i'm wondering if I could be greedy with it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 10:34:18 2018 No.10458922 >>10456332 could be the P/E keeps going up not good. also intel is about to enter the gpu market too.

reluctant kneepad girl Sat Jul 28 10:42:50 2018 No.10459015
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>>10458887
that every romance me suppose....

but... here pic of anime girls having heart pierced by arrows in literally way where they die instead of fall in love

>>10458890
Sirius default installed into every new car now
its cheap, with 250+ channels of decent stuff

me unironically pay for Sirius if about 2 do lots of car stuff

Standstill !STOPSME/Gg Sat Jul 28 10:50:45 2018 No.10459089
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>>10459015
>they die instead of fall in love
You've never been in love then.
All the elves in your pic are clearly in love

I swear to got if the fucking CAPCOM stock keeps going down... Release of MonHun World PC can't come soon enough, also pls gib next interim report. It fucking sold 1 M on some chink PC platform already, steam must be even better. There is dosh to be made here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 10:51:01 2018 No.10459095 >>10459015 Kill yourself>>10459015

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 10:54:23 2018 No.10459114 File: 38 KB, 617x600, 37749325_585140731883519_4638658717988945920_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] fuck, old thread died any good suggestions for starting out in stocks with low income?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 10:56:11 2018 No.10459131 >>10458872 Why would I LARP about trying to save you money???

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 10:58:55 2018 No.10459153 File: 215 KB, 623x408, hmny.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10458846

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 11:06:49 2018 No.10459227 >>10459114 just don't over-diversify, you'll do nothing more than dilute your already minute gains

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 11:14:24 2018 No.10459297

>>10459114
You can pick your poison.
If you want a good chance of average gains and a small chance of moderate losses (as markets crash) go with index ETFs. In this case the only really important thing is liquidity (i.e. low spreads) and expense ratios.
If you want a tiny chance of massive gains and a large chance of going broke, trade microcap meme stocks, play earnings reports and learn the greeks to trade options.

reluctant kneepad girl Sat Jul 28 11:17:21 2018 No.10459321
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>>10459089
me have never been on love >_>
thank you for clarify me mistake
have always wondered why after having heart die everyone look so peacefully

look at these two love birds, makes so much sense now!!!

>>10459153
kek
not understand @_@ but funny

>>10459095
;_;

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 11:20:07 2018 No.10459344 Fuck I was up too late last night...

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 11:24:46 2018 No.10459382

>>10458872
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2016/08/23/491057541/gang-rape-of-aid-workers-in-south-sudan-is-a-turning-point

Here is at least an article I can share with you. This is one of hundreds of reports like this. We were warned about staying on main roads while we were there and not travelling away from the compound without a security detail. Also a strict travel ban during Ramadan. Only exception was if you were going to the airport to leave.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 11:40:26 2018 No.10459491 >>10459297 Thanks!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 11:44:04 2018 No.10459528 >>10459382 >>10458872 >Investing in an economy where the population is genetically prone to laziness, unnecessary spending and impulsiveness

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 11:54:35 2018 No.10459646 File: 185 KB, 636x516, 97845456.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10458215 >cant invest in the Jewelry Network watching the gems spin on the table is soothing

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:00:50 2018 No.10459711 File: 144 KB, 326x302, Just+try+and+stop+me+mods+_48a07233fe2c50b82534b6ac67a1554b.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10458215 I almost want to give you a fucking headpat.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:04:48 2018 No.10459746 >>10458654 m8 we were talking about how to take black peoples (in the US) money in a theoretical sense, and whether or not theyd be a good consumer for steady income. im not gonna long fucking africa. no one is that dumb

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:07:36 2018 No.10459768 >>10459746 Well that one anon who bought into HMNY a while back might be...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:09:34 2018 No.10459787 just a few days ago i started buying stocks on nordnet. im new to this so if anyone as any tips or guides i'd be happy to read some. i dont really know anything yet

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:10:17 2018 No.10459798 >>10459746 >no one is that dumb You'd be surprised...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:11:20 2018 No.10459806 >>10459787 It won't be long before you start finding the weekends incredibly boring.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:11:35 2018 No.10459808 Canuck with $1000 and absolutely fucking sick of the rat race. What are my investing options?

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:11:55 2018 No.10459814

>>10459768
i pay no attention to those who will soon blow up desu senpai

tho i cant believe baggy blew up on those one day options. poor guy (especially since he was right lol). i thought he had bought the ones that atleast gave room for error. nope. 20k, totaled

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:13:53 2018 No.10459830 >>10459646 QVC?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:14:37 2018 No.10459838 >>10459806 oh yeah my new purchases wont go though yet? monday then

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:16:15 2018 No.10459852 File: 1.41 MB, 1972x854, 1528645708701.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why should I invest in Stocks instead of ETF?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:16:17 2018 No.10459853 >>10459806 weekends are great. none of the lines are moving. all the better to draw memelines on

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:21:40 2018 No.10459902

>>10459852
ETFs are more diversified, so less risk, less reward. usually muted divvies that way too (and expense ratio which eats yield).

single stocks will always outperform if you did your homework.
personally i hate keeping up to date on stupid corporations and their going ons, as i dont find it incredibly interesting, like i do when im researching about oil and other commodities, so most of my investing in the traditional sense, is done w ETFs. generally IWM and specific sector ETFs. i also use ETFs rather than trade actual bonds for liquidity

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:22:57 2018 No.10459910 File: 51 KB, 700x544, Shinyae.600.1185118.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone have links for: >How to make millions - Tim Grittani >Trading tickers - Tim Grittani >Trading Techniques - Steven Dux Would be very much appreciated.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:24:08 2018 No.10459919 >>10459910 try >http://libgen.io

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:24:56 2018 No.10459926

>>10459808
ITM puts on any company with an ex-div on the following day. Buy puts at the peak the day before, sell at the low on the following day. Repeat.

Easily doable with $1000 to find at least 5 decent options that should net you around 30-50 each day. Do that until you get comfortable/save up a little then put half into some longer positions and use the other half to keep making the div play. Takes a lot of management each day but its worth it. Haven't been to work in about 2 weeks and idk if I will return.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:27:08 2018 No.10459943 >>10459926 ime the put options generally adjust for the price drop from the div. you must just be netting vega or something.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:29:17 2018 No.10459963

>>10459926
>ITM
Hey, thanks for the reply.
I see that this is an American company. Am I still able to trade with them while in Canada? I'd love to know more. I'm a complete virgin to this sort of thing but I can't take working in a call center any longer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:29:34 2018 No.10459965 >>10458215 How does it feel to know you'll die before ever having a chance to start a family?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:30:25 2018 No.10459972 Did facebook drop affect S&P500 back then? I'm recently learning stocks, I was wondering how much the price of one stock can affect a whole index price.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:32:56 2018 No.10460000 >>10459963 hes talking about in-the-money options, which you should not be trading if youre new

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:33:33 2018 No.10460008 >>10459963 He meant 'In The Money' bro

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:33:57 2018 No.10460012 >>10459972 Yeah, the drop in facebook affected the S&P 500. The index of the S&P 500 is affected by the changes in stocks traded under it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:36:14 2018 No.10460032 >>10459943 A gain is a gain. even if its $10, you have 10 or more of those a day you're not doing terrible.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:37:48 2018 No.10460050 >>10459963 If you get into options, terms you should be familiar with are ITM, ATM and OTM. In the money At the money Out of the money Watch some videos and play around a little and you'll start to understand.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:38:11 2018 No.10460054

>>10456164
non-boomer sf techfag here. still shorting tech. why'd you pick snap? tech will crash. it's already crashing. even sf techies are sick of big tech. don't be too quick to jump on "muh rebound" until rebound is confirmed. i think we go much lower first. big shakeout. FB especially...what is FB valuation even supported by at this point. i don't even understand the bull case there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:38:55 2018 No.10460064 >>10460000 ITM is great if you're new. OTM is what you should stay away from as it is considered gambling if you have no idea what is going on.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:40:32 2018 No.10460073 >>10453928 >tfw 31yo boomer and want to buy a 100oz silver bar just to play with it because im probably on the spectrum. Redpill me on precious metals biz

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:40:57 2018 No.10460081 >>10460000 >>10460008 >>10460050 Thanks boys, I'm quite the fool.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:43:39 2018 No.10460109 >>10460054 there is no bullcase I just watch the snap short interest and now its the point where I like to buy >>10459830 yeah that one

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:43:49 2018 No.10460111

>>10460032
i agree, small consistant gains w options is dope. im just saying i think what youre getting there is not deltas in that sense, but vegas from all the divvies being re-invested.

everytime ive done that, ive noticed muh deltas get all tangled up, but IV goes up enough to correct it if its a popular one.

my problem is, muh brokers slippage for long options is retarded (about 10 bucks considering open and close), and i need to get a different broker for my options plays

>>10460064
hey i almost exclusively trade ITM ones, so i believe ya. fact stands that hi delta contracts are not for newbies, and theyre not for the faint of heart either. ime, you want to ease into having your account fluctuate +/-10-20% a day P/L

>>10460081
its cool m8
no one knows about options when they start. but do yourself a favor and learn regular trading before you even try them (and read ALL about the maths and stuff involved in them, oh and papertrade them first (options that is))

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:44:34 2018 No.10460120 >>10455100 30yo boomer here, never daytraded except w crypto - Don't most brokerages take $7-$8 comms per trade? You def can't make anything with $100, that's fucking 8% rake MINIMUM

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:44:53 2018 No.10460124

>>10456115
TSLA is dangerous short imo. very very expensive to short it because everybody else is doing that also. I think short side is correct, but remember downside means that you also need to be right on timing or it gets very expensive very quick and will put you underwater. I don't understand its valuation at all, and bull case makes almost zero sense to me. but, I've been wrong on TSLA timing for so long that I'm out of that one for good. not buying for sure, but I don't trust myself with timing on downside at all. and there's a lot of money in that wants short side badly. good luck desu. braver man than i

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:45:55 2018 No.10460138 >>10460120 different brokers do different things m8 some do percent based commissions, some do flat rate, some are free. but all have their various ups and downs

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:46:16 2018 No.10460144 >>10460120 read the text posted at the top of every /smg/ thread desu.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:46:56 2018 No.10460151 >>10460124 timing on downside is unironically my specialty its mostly just patience desu

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:47:43 2018 No.10460161 >>10460109 so a "muh rebound" type argument? honestly that's probably as good of an argument as any right now. I'd take profits quick though if you make any.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 12:49:28 2018 No.10460182 >>10460151 k I'll bite then what's your prediction on timing? / why? can you make a case? (doesn't have to be tsla either, i'm shorting a few things right now so i'd be curious to hear your thoughts on when/where)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 13:02:17 2018 No.10460326 >>10460073 Buy physical, store it away, forget you have it. One day you'll wake up and remember it's worth something and you'll be happy. It's like a savings account that counteracts inflation. You become the central bank.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 13:05:04 2018 No.10460353
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>>10460182
desu most of my scalps are done on indexes, as i find individual companies to be much too irrational and hard to time (as well as having more illiquid options/wider spreads). though if i see an industry leader shitting the bed, ill hop in on the whole index or sector ETF to get dragged down somewhat.

but mostly what i watch is hi yield corporate debt (which rolls over first), the VIX, and the dollar. hi yields moving against their underlying companies implies incoming volatility. rising/spiking dollar means people cashing out en masse. and VIX, i have a personal relationship w the VIX. shes like the ocean, you watch the tides roll in and out, and judge from each wave which way its going.

then i watch put/call OI, and put/call IV. i look at what options writers are trending towards (more puts being written means upward-ish movement until next major expiry). then ill look at the IVs. IVs will spike when you got a bunch of retail folks buying puts or calls on some media FUD piece. then ill usually bet directly against them (tho this is mostly for manipulated commodities like oil and metals and stuff like that where they can just manipulate it with futures and sell options on the ETFs). for this put/call OI stuff, heres a pic i drew of oil yesterday roughly outlining this idea

anther thing ive been watching is the russell. for whatever reason (less retail interest i suppose), the russell will roll over first (either up or down, but DEFINITELY down). so when i see the russell suddenly break down while the Qs and S&P go unaffected, ill start looking for a short there. another neat little trick is to watch oil. if oil starts crashing, you can be 90% sure that the dow will follow.

main thing with shorts is, like you said, to never be early, never be late, and always be on time. easier said than done, but im picking up new tricks every week

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 13:08:18 2018 No.10460379

>>10460182
the main thing w shorts is to make your plan well in advanced, draw some lines for entry, profit taking, exit etc... but then you wait. you NEVER FOMO into something you havent had time to plan, and you never take the position until your prediction gets confirmed. the exception for this is vol, where i usually have a long AND a short position at the same time. ill take my VXX puts (assisted by contango) and dump em into VIX calls when vol stays low. that way its free money to bet on VIX spikes that i dont care about. when theta starts to eat too much of it, i rollout

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 13:12:44 2018 No.10460439
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>>10460182
heres a better pic of that put/call OI trick, but zoomed out over time. this shit is less important for equities, but VERY important for manipulated commodities. but as we see in pic related, its also very helpful for calling macro moves on the S&P

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 13:15:08 2018 No.10460468
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>>10460439
and a weekly chart

in these, i have put/call OI in yellow
call IV in dotted green
put IV in dotted red

i also use OBV and CMF to go the wrong way to look for money sneaking out the backdoor

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 13:27:17 2018 No.10460609 File: 690 KB, 800x800, 5.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10460353

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 13:32:59 2018 No.10460696

>>10460609
hey id rather not swing at every pitch, especially for macro memes. i find the more things that tell me to stay out the better

but the put/call OI trick only takes a glance, and with the total penis strength index, i can get the rest at a glance too. literally takes me 5-15 mins to decide what to do

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 13:42:08 2018 No.10460780

>>10460468
interesting, i like the way you think I'm going to save this. I like especially RE oil -- I think you have a similar way of thinking about it as i do (i.e., as manipulated commodity -- related to geopolitics type events and not companies) -- but I never thought to connect it directly to the major indices like that for timing. I buy it for sure. so just to make sure I understand....are you somewhat anticipating a near(ish) term downward correction RE oil? (that's my outlook by the way, but arrived at that via totally different indicators so I'd be curious on your thoughts). also, related question: so are you actually taking out positions in oil directly, and predicting timing rE oil? or are you using OIL as an indicator here and then waiting for oil moves and then taking out positions in the market once the move happens?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 13:48:27 2018 No.10460849 >>10460696 youre still overthinking everything I cant see any way your strategies work over the long term unless you have a good hedge strategy too

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 13:49:08 2018 No.10460857

>>10460780
i am short oil rn
but only slightly so with some DWT

if it gets confirmed, ill probably get some deep ITM USO puts too. but yea, if you look at >>10460353
im watching OVX (oil VIX, which has been slowly trending down (this is unusual) while vollume has decreased. i think its just retail long rn). then i see the call IV spiking as retail buys calls on the dip. but i also see put/call OI starting to trend down. THAT will be my confirmation for getting high delta puts.

either way, barring some impossible to foretell conflict in the ME popping up over the weekend, oil usually gets shorted down a bit over the weekend/ going into the weekend. a little bit of DWT isnt gonna hurt too bad if im wrong desu

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 13:50:10 2018 No.10460867 >>10460849 nah you dont know shit this has been working spectacularly these past few months you gotta remember were trading different shit m8

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 13:55:12 2018 No.10460925 >>10460849 but desu i do hedge nearly everything i do its the only way to do this stuff and like i said, i almost ever do this for single companies, as theyre too irrational for this stuff to work

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 13:59:47 2018 No.10460981
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>>10460867
Ive trade commodities for a long time. Charts and Thinking are not necessary

>>10460925
I believe single companies to be the most profitable
buying 20+ companies at the end of the day to sell the next morning nets money dailey

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:03:27 2018 No.10461018

>>10460981
>Ive trade commodities for a long time. Charts and Thinking are not necessary
and i havent traded them for as long
charts and thinking are very necessary for me

well see over the next few weeks
>short oil
>short gold

>I believe single companies to be the most profitable
buying 20+ companies at the end of the day to sell the next morning nets money dailey
i picked that one up from you desu

but i gotta catch yall l8r
gotta go play a fucking wedding

reluctant kneepad girl Sat Jul 28 14:07:04 2018 No.10461045
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>>10459646
whenever there was that big CCTV hack website few years ago
one of the hacked cams was of a industrial diamond cutter

We used for watch them cut gems all day, was mesmerizing, the way they zoom in & digitally triangulate cuts, then the lazer show :O

>>10459711
pls give me pets ;_;

>>10460439
good stuff with the put call ratio, for quant strats people use this all time am seeing

have you ever tried looking at weekly/daily pivot points for setting put/calls?
thats how me see alot of SPY masters do it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:07:46 2018 No.10461051 File: 47 KB, 600x600, 340_facingleft-cheese2-new_2016w.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10461018 Ill just be sitting here, in my chair

>>	Comfy Sat Jul 28 14:08:11 2018 No.10461053 >>10460609 Based drink boys! I'm torn between holding my UVXY or throwing puts at Tesla. Really makes me anxious desu

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:08:38 2018 No.10461056 File: 108 KB, 866x437, true_words.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why is /biz/ not full of millionaire ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:11:25 2018 No.10461076 File: 64 KB, 766x1008, Unique-engagement-rings-Nicci-emerald-leaves-organic-f.jpeg_1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10461045 for me, its the cushion cut

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:12:28 2018 No.10461088
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>>10460696
I have always picked you out of the /smg/ to be a high quality individual
you are a treasure; along with all the other anons that will be forgotten

/smg/-hedgefund when

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:12:51 2018 No.10461091
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Hey guys I've recently built a trading "bot". To put a long story shot the "bot" alerts the user when a stock in a user determined watch list is deemed profitable and alerts the user when to sell effectively setting entry and exit points. I was wondering if something like this would be worth setting up on a real account and if so are there investors out there who would be interested in this or does big firms on wall street have the algorithm market on lock down

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:14:12 2018 No.10461101 File: 13 KB, 252x212, just'd_cat.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10461056 It's full of degenerate gamblers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:15:33 2018 No.10461109 >>10461053 Neither.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:16:29 2018 No.10461121

>>10456324
>>10456469
I just bought a clutch of deep in the money puts for January. AMD may have another bull run in it, but Q3 results will be weak the big money will absolutely pull out some profits before those drop. Sell off those shares, use the liquidity to cover some put sales, and pepare to re-enter AMD on the next dip which will be mid $15.xx.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:16:41 2018 No.10461127 >>10461056 What did he mean by this?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:17:21 2018 No.10461131 https://shop.tesla.com/us/en/product/apparel/limited-edition-tesla-surfboard.html Tesla dabbing on the haters with capital raise items.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:23:11 2018 No.10461171 >>10461127 I'm just scrolling through the book, so I don't know yet. Just saw a graphic where buying high and selling low worked because it was the start of a major trend.

>>	Comfy Sat Jul 28 14:23:34 2018 No.10461178 >>10461131 A car company raising capital because no one wants to loan to them anymore Amazing

>>	Comfy Sat Jul 28 14:28:14 2018 No.10461215 File: 114 KB, 1882x806, puts.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Autism incorporated officially issues an A+ rating to puts on Square. AUIC will buy puts on Square on Monday at open

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:29:19 2018 No.10461225

>>10461171
For example buy S&P at all all time high (April 2015) thinking the trend might contimue and sell after some rockiness (Jan 2018), on worries that the party is over. This would have net you a good profit.

Retarded Bitcoin shills have somehow convinced everyone that 'because it went down, it will go up soon.' To see where that gets you, take a look at all the HMNY bagholders.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:30:23 2018 No.10461234 >>10461215 back to degenerate gambling already comfy? That was fast.

>>	Comfy Sat Jul 28 14:34:22 2018 No.10461266 File: 67 KB, 500x500, waifu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10461234 N-no!! I have most of my shekels in T and VZ, I allot myself a small amount of gambling money on the side.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:46:32 2018 No.10461400 Is the President of the Bagholders Without Borders Foundation present? When will we get a statement with the revised itinerary of the global economic meltdown and subsequent social collapse?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:55:46 2018 No.10461526 >>10458654 Invest in Ghana, whitest country in darkest africa. It is going to be the west african regional power very soon and with an expansionist military could take over all of west africa.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:01:39 2018 No.10461586 >>10461225 I get it, but damn that drawdown. No weak hand allowed

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:33:40 2018 No.10461897 When to buy OTM Tesla puts if I think ER going down down down down down???

reluctant kneepad girl Sat Jul 28 15:49:35 2018 No.10462023
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looking at $TWTR !!
the sell volume not that strong,
the OBV hardly changed, still @ $42 range
strong chance for bounce off $34.30

but
It still has ways to fall if break channel
most likey a strong bounce off 32!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:02:38 2018 No.10462154 File: 19 KB, 405x367, twitten.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10462023 Twitter banned me So I returned the favor :3

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:09:50 2018 No.10462228
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been trading for 2+ years, and ive never used options

so I have a question /smg/:

what is the easiest, lowest risk option there is? like a 0 risk, low reward one?

and also, whats the absolutely riskiest option there is, like odds are worse than buying a lotto ticket bad?

my autism means i always get puts and calls mixed up in my head, even when im looking at their definitions on a piece of paper, but i have a feeling im losing out on a lot of money from not learning more about them

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:11:04 2018 No.10462245 >>10462154 >0.001 What am I looking at?

>>	Comfy Sat Jul 28 16:15:33 2018 No.10462303 >>10462023 Hey the last burner email I posted expired for your interview audio, if you ever do it send it to trapsaregay1488 at maildrop.cc

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:15:40 2018 No.10462305 >>10462245 its 1broker, the bitcoin gambling site

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:33:03 2018 No.10462502 File: 61 KB, 468x494, 14E54749-8292-4D99-8C7A-02D5B0DE64C7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Redpill me on E-Mini futures

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:36:14 2018 No.10462530

>>10462228
Both calls and puts are equally safe/risky depending on how in the money they are. Buy deep in the money to be safe, buy out of the money to be risky.

One risk to consider with OOTM options is liquidity. An ITM option is as liquid as the underlying stock, but an OOTM option is only as liquid as that option. Options are surprisingly hard to unload because of the way contracts are written and the variety of options.

The *least* risky way to use options is selling them. Covered calls bring a guaranteed return, and selling puts allows you to get a discount on whatever price you want to enter a stock at.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:59:36 2018 No.10462787 gonna short a strangle on SNAP and DVN after their earnings prolly make about 125 for it which will be about a 17% roc

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:00:15 2018 No.10462800 Who's ready for some abysmal q3 GDP growth reports?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:03:32 2018 No.10462828 >didn't close out my short S&P500 futures contract before trading stopped for the weekend How fucked am I going to be when trading resumes?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:19:13 2018 No.10463003 >>10460439 >>10460468 what brokerage/platform are you using?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:33:57 2018 No.10463154 >>10461056 hi anon, what book is this from?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:53:29 2018 No.10463392 if he cant learn to love you for you then sister you should leave him.

>>	grim !!tqKNtpU7P6O Sat Jul 28 17:55:02 2018 No.10463414 File: 71 KB, 750x424, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] HELLO

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:57:26 2018 No.10463446 File: 135 KB, 500x385, cllickerheros.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10463414 hi

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:59:16 2018 No.10463465 >>10453893 I made 33% day trading bitcoin and eth

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:01:41 2018 No.10463497
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>>10453893
Any thoughts on buying GE? Their stock's performing terribly and has been for some time. But it seems to be largely due to over diversification. If they consolidate and focus on their profitable wings they seem like they're in a good position to recover.

TL;DR: Buy GE?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:03:56 2018 No.10463520 File: 71 KB, 1757x400, tlsa.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10454838 Support at 300 looks consistent, with the most recent news of their asking for discounts and earnings already out I'd not be inclined to think it falls.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:15:15 2018 No.10463663

>>10463520
It also has strong support at 0. A bad Q2 earnings would send it to 240. A bad Q3 would send it to bankruptcy.

The big question is whether or not there will be a capital raise. Strangely, dilution of the stock might result in a higher price as the biggest concern for longs is liquidity. However, a world in which TSLA has a greater market cap than GM and F combined seems outrageous.

Most institutions got in very early, not sure they want to pay 200+ when their initial position is at 20. So a capital raise may be tricky to negotiate.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:31:52 2018 No.10463822
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>>10463663
Chart looks pretty solid so far in July. If they are ramping up for a strong 7 day production into earnings which it looks like. Keep in mind these numbers are from a bear/short so likely skewed negative slightly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:36:47 2018 No.10463869 File: 21 KB, 211x220, 1495648832333.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >buy call and put on the same thing I just figured out how to exploit the system, I'm gonna be rich

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:43:28 2018 No.10463932 File: 144 KB, 1080x2220, 75k.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] reddit just posted 75k in tesla puts. I'm sorry for everyone short/put in tesla.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:06:41 2018 No.10464136

>>10463822
Not sure I believe these extrapolated numbers. 5k was a 24/7 shift burst week. We never even saw 4k or even 3k consistent before that. Production is only one side of the coin. Now it looks like TSLA has a delivery problem, or worse, a demand problem. People being invited to configure and skip the "400k" reservation queue does not paint a nice picture.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:08:08 2018 No.10464145 >>10463932 >gambling on earnings and paying that kind of premium. Jesus. I own TSLA puts but they don't expire until January.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:15:56 2018 No.10464209

>>10461091
Set it up on a paper account for a while to see what happens. If successful an hft firm would very likely be interested in you and your IP. Or run it yourself to make money. You can't compete technically with big boys (you don't have the network speed, processing power, capital) but as long as you aren't trying to, a retail trade bot could be very worth it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:17:44 2018 No.10464230 >>10417362 >my precious $BILI is down for no reason. lol >China banned their app for a month and demand a content "cleanup" >down for no reason

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:17:51 2018 No.10464231 >>10461526 Their third biggest industry is online scams

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:18:01 2018 No.10464232

>>10464136
Those are observed numbers by counting cars leaving gate from a short.

The reason they reduced production in Q2 is to keep tax credit 1 extra quarter. The tax deduction is based on quarterlies. If you reach 200k in the end of a quarter you lose 3 months of credits (about 350 million dollars).

The hit the 200k in first week of July, in beginning of Q3. Meaning if they upped production too much in Q2 they lose a fuck ton of money. It's why they had so many days off and shut downs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:19:54 2018 No.10464245 What's kind of funny is I went into the nearest city to me and came back expecting this thread to be dead. I was wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:20:06 2018 No.10464248 >>10462228 Write deep out of the money covered contracts with short expirations going against current momentum. You'll get a buck or two a pop but it's pretty damn close to zero risk

>>	2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jul 28 19:25:00 2018 No.10464297 File: 147 KB, 1080x1920, Screenshot_20180728-192138.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Market cap for HMNY is now about 397k. My start up from college had a market cap of 400k thanks to a VC guy and never had a single sale.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:25:46 2018 No.10464309 File: 110 KB, 902x617, best headpat girl.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10461045 you get eternal headpats. I wouldn't mind coaching though lol.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:29:15 2018 No.10464348

>>10464232
This is the long thesis. Still doesn't explain why they barely made 5k and had to build a fucking tent. They could have delayed deliveries to stay below 200k. It's a month later and they still have an incredible backlog of deliveries. How many 50k-70k model 3s do people really think TSLA can sell?

With their current facilities, they are capped on production. They don't have a second paint shop. They have not filed the permits for it or put in the necessary EPA HVAC work. This takes on the order of 6 months to a year before operation. I don't see how a near term(pre 2020) success story is possible without a huge capital raise.

>>	Comfy Sat Jul 28 19:39:52 2018 No.10464440 >>10464297 Amazing. Big 5 guy better sell at open on Monday or he is going to get seriously bogged >>10464230 Oh no, the anime platform! Is there any other ways to invest in anime?

reluctant kneepad girl Sat Jul 28 19:41:51 2018 No.10464456
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here facebook
am had much more solid floor finding @ 175 with less ways 2 fall than twitter

but this one more worrisome because the sell volume very intense.
Very institutional sell volume and very small spec buy volume... maybe the little guys will win this time kek

its still in uptrend though, could be back @ 202 in no time

>>10462303
me super depressed ATM, will prob be little bit longer until can do this and it be good ;_;

>>10462154
nice roi !!!

2 scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jul 28 19:43:18 2018 No.10464469

>>10464440
Did big5guy buy HMNY?
I saw that they somehow had a market cap of $1B on Thursday or Friday, which tipped me off to get out.
I'd actually totally buy shares right now if the market wasn't closed.
The owner said no further dilution

>>	reluctant kneepad girl Sat Jul 28 19:45:50 2018 No.10464485 File: 132 KB, 481x622, 20180421_132111.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10464309 awww >.<

>>	Comfy Sat Jul 28 19:46:36 2018 No.10464494 File: 175 KB, 1627x816, math.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10464469 Pic related, but the market cap was higher when it was calculated

>>	Comfy Sat Jul 28 19:47:38 2018 No.10464501 >>10464456 Just send it whenever

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:48:10 2018 No.10464507 >>10464440 > Is there any other ways to invest in anime? Why not directly buy Kadokawa Dwango's stocks from Tokyo stock exchange?

reluctant kneepad girl Sat Jul 28 19:48:12 2018 No.10464508
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>>10464456
>me super depressed ATM, will prob be little bit longer until can do this and it be good ;_;
Me thinks you better not fucking kys @_@
Board no good without you
<_< reluctant kneepad girl is best girl

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:49:09 2018 No.10464518 I was thinking about putting a long 5k into F, BP, MU, GE, and RDS. The oil can serve as a hedge for the risk in F and GE

>>	Comfy Sat Jul 28 19:50:29 2018 No.10464532 File: 44 KB, 600x600, 1523499702318.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10464507 I totally would, but I'm a poorfag stuck on robinhood When I sell my UVXY, it's time to buy BILI

>>	reluctant kneepad girl Sat Jul 28 19:51:26 2018 No.10464543 >>10464494 If it's still sub 500k on Monday, I'll totally spend 1 grand on it.

>>	Comfy Sat Jul 28 19:53:02 2018 No.10464559 >>10464543 Right now Big 5 made around $300 dollars, which is pretty good gains desu It's such a dumpster fire, I'm afraid to even look at it

>>	2scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jul 28 19:54:25 2018 No.10464576 >>10464543 This would mean that 4chan's autistic trips fags would own a combined total of about .43% of HMNY (Also forgot to change my tripcode back again)

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:55:24 2018 No.10464583

>>10464348
We will see in a few days. The tent makes sense. It technically can not be a liability for a couple of reasons. It's expansionary, not replacing an existing line. Meaning they can just not use it if it is a failure. Cost was minimal. etc. I don't see anything technically wrong with it except it drives shorts crazy.

True, but it shows a strategic choice option. That they could focus on improving flow rather than output. Improvement for future sales rather than milking now. This strategy makes sense under the assumption of saving tax credit, which rewards via bad government policy backloading production.

It's very simple to understand. They make more money on improved production in Q3 and Q4 than in Q2. 3500 week steady vs 5000 week steady, you want to produce the 5000 a week steady in Q3/Q4, meaning Investment should be in improvement over output in Q2.

This argument about Model 3 configurations is stupid. Strategically, again, with common sense and average intelligence. Tesla has been a premium brand. Why would they release the 35k model first? What do they gain?

NOTHING.

By restricting output to the highest end models they gain the most profitability. This is fucking 1+1=2 levels of IQ to process. If people have the choice of the 35k model, people will opt for it over the high margin ones.

OF course, Telsa will limit all configs to high margin models. No fucking duh. If I am making 10 glasses of lemonade a day, and there are still people buying the $10 one over the $5 one, I'm not offering the $5 till no one is buying the $10.

Basic, common, sense.

The paint shop FUD is funny. It assumes certain emissions per car painted which are not accurate to Tesla's paint shop.

>>	Comfy Sat Jul 28 19:58:27 2018 No.10464604 File: 9 KB, 250x250, 1528925508226.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10464583 t. coping tesla fan boy

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:58:32 2018 No.10464606

Good afternoon weekend /smg/.

Just want to let everyone know that if you're doing TA on a stock, don't forget to check the weekly chart as well not just the daily chart. Very important. Weekly charts can sometimes tell you a lot more about the direction of a stock than daily charts.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:59:05 2018 No.10464611

>>10464583
My TLDR:

the short arguments seem logical and make sense if you want to believe them. On further analysis and with actual debate (not just shouting) the arguments fall apart.

There are good arguments. Tesla didn't meet production that was promised, it's been slower, etc. They have a good amount of debt. These are real problems. They are also a very risky company. For instance focusing on solar tiles for roof construction which is not something common, or electric vehicles (this is becoming more commonly accepted).

I would argue there is a good chance for it to hit 270 soon on bad news. I think the likely price is around 320 though just on production being out of hell.

The real problem is fit and finish though. Depending if that is widespread or minimal and how many model 3s are unsellable or have to be discounted on account.

2scoops !!DU22SQMj6dQ Sat Jul 28 19:59:48 2018 No.10464620

>>10464559
>Right now Big 5 made around $300 dollars, which is pretty good gains desu
Oh, the market cap on HMNY for RH must be off... It's listing the market cap as 400k at a price of $2.32
>It's such a dumpster fire, I'm afraid to even look at it
Well, the key is dilution risk and pricing it off the market cap.
Like I said, my start-up in college was valued at 400k and I didn't have a single fucking sale...
The HMNY owner also said no further dilution.
I think big5guy slammed the buy button at the best possible time here.
If it somehow goes to 10X less in market cap, you could literally buy that piece of shit out for no more than 50 grand, which I could literally do with my Robinhood account.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 20:00:09 2018 No.10464626 >>10464604 Cogent arguments. I don't mind shorts. I think it is still yet to be seen what happens to Tesla and it would be very stupid to assume the worst can't be possible.

Comfy Sat Jul 28 20:03:18 2018 No.10464652
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>>10464620
The marketcap on robinhood has been swinging around for the last few days, not the most accurate measure but it's in that range
>>10464626
Go back to pegging Elon, Grimes

New thread
>>10464637
>>10464637
>>10464637

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 20:04:05 2018 No.10464658 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Oil Anybody dipping their toes?

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 20:08:04 2018 No.10464698

>>10464611
>Shorts
>Pictures, critical thinking, evidence
>Longs
>Believe TSLA word for word

This company cannot justify its market cap period. The TSLA long thesis was they would have the most efficient production line by heavy use of automation and use this to produce enough cars to become profitable from the fremont factory. This is the assumption to the valuation. It was shattered but the valuation has not adapted. The only think keeping it afloat is the demand narrative. You kept people waiting years for $5 lemonade. It was always just around the corner. Even though you had enough lemons (kek), you coudln't squeeze them in the way you thought you could using robots so you had to hire people to do it for 2-3x the cost of any other car company. Not only that, now the lemonade costs $10. And you are having trouble delivering the lemonade. I think a lot of customers are saying fuck your $10 lemonade, I'm waiting for what was promised. Now you're left with a lot of $10 lemonade and no money.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 20:23:35 2018 No.10464851
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>>10453893
- Anyone here have a successful and durable experience in forex trading ?
- What's techniques did you use ?
- With how much money did you begin ?
- Gives me advice for a beginner like me, please.

I am really sad when i read specialized forums in forex, why?
Because all the trading journal I read ends the same way :
They end up losing all their gains and have their account to 0 dollars, after 6 months or 1 year.

I need testimonials from people who really live forex successfully since several years.
http://forums.babypips.com/newbie-island/70214-truth-about-forex-you-cant-become-rich.html

I think this method is the best to learn forex or index cfd:

Depositing tiny amount less than € 200 and try to make it grow until 1000, once in 1000 reached 900 withdraw.
With the remaining € 100, try to grow them again to € 1,000, remove 900 ... etc.
Do it 10 times successfully
Instead of dropping € 50,000, losing after six months, redeposit € 20,000 and lose again after one week.

Warning : this thread is only for winner in forex market.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 21:13:46 2018 No.10465320 >>10456164 SNAP is literally one of the worst tech stocks to pick. you should have done SQ (square). Much better position to actually make money.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 21:33:52 2018 No.10465507 >>10463869 unironically will make you money if IV goes up

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