/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.10443193]

>boss tells me in this industry no one leaves at 5pm and that for my career I should take note
heh

[Anonymous No.10443207]

>>10443193
Do they leave at 4pm?

[Anonymous No.10443252]

>>10443193
Tell him to swallow your CUM next time

[Anonymous No.10443265]

>FREE dinner and beers!
>served at 7:00pm
>make sure you stay for it!

[Anonymous No.10443279]

>>10443265
Jew'd

[Anonymous No.10443283]

>>10443193

>i know you are finished but leaving at 5 provides bad optics to upper management

[Anonymous No.10443298]

>>10443265
This shit makes me rage

[Anonymous No.10443320]

>>10443265

>"No thanks boss I don't want to drink the liquid jew and have bitchtits like the rest of you
>*leaves at 5*

[Anonymous No.10443347]

>>10443265
Ok see you tomorrow at 11 am.

[Anonymous No.10443378]

We short timers leave early everyday. It's okay...I get plenty done.
No way I put up with regularly expected overtime bullshit.

[Anonymous No.10443419]

>>10443193
Everyday I arrive at :59 and I leave at :01
nothing more
nothing less

[Anonymous No.10443475]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD2gXY4piF4

You think telling a long painful story will help me get a shit job?
>Ah dude, I'm on hard times right now, man. My girlfriend's on these pills bro, she hurt her leg dude, and I'm keeping a roof over her senile aunt's head

[Anonymous No.10443535]

>>10443193
>work hard for company
>get 40 hours of overtime in a month for 4 months
>get 2 extra projects done
>far ahead of my peers in knowledge and work ethic
>boss always tells me what a good job I'm doing
>comments on the amount and quality of work I put in
>time for yearly review
>awww yis, definitely going to get a raise and a promotion this year
>"anon, you exceeded all your targets this year!"
>"but I know you can do better"
>"try harder next year and I'm sure you'll get a promotion to the next level"
>standard 2% raise, which is minimum at my company, even if you're a fuck up
Ever since then I put in my 8 hours every day and no more. Don't care if people come to me with emergencies or whatever; at 4:00 I punch out.

[Anonymous No.10443570]

>>10443535

>"anon, you exceeded all your targets this year!"
>"but I know you can do better"
>"try harder next year and I'm sure you'll get a promotion to the next level"

this shit makes me upset

[Anonymous No.10443590]

>>10443347
>Sorry Bob. You don't need to come tomorrow. You are fired.

[Anonymous No.10443591]

>>10443535
This depends on your companies size, but as they get bigger HR departments become more apt at dangling the carrot to make you stay there, but not giving you what you really deserve.

At my old company, they would have prevent promotions to certain levels and raises to certain levels until you had a specific number of years of experience. Instead they'd send you to this bullshit 'special leadership training' to try to appease you and keep you dangling a bit longer until they're forced to pay you more.

[Anonymous No.10443670]

>>10443535
Should have made your case boldly or started looking for a new job.

[Anonymous No.10443701]

>>10443535
I hope you are already searching for another company. Headhunters should be already lurking for you. Get your social profils up and running... LinkedIn and all that bullshit.

Once you have some good opportunities go up to your boss and give hin a Deadline...either promotion or Bye Bye

[Anonymous No.10443713]

>>10443535
Only ever work hard if your boss is around.

[Anonymous No.10443740]

>tfw show up late and leave early
Feels good not having a boss who'd monitor my hours every day since my work's high quality and always done early.

[Anonymous No.10443767]

>>10443535
>boss asks me how much overtime hours I made during the month
>"wow, remind me how much we pay you for one hour?"
>"9.70€"
>"You got it big.. damn"

fuck

[Anonymous No.10443773]

>>10443713

[Anonymous No.10443821]

>>10443535
REEEEE

>Have my 90 day probation review soon. Expecting something exactly like this. Been busting my ass for 3 months.

[Anonymous No.10443823]

>paid a salary
>no overtime pay
>contracted for 40 a week
>in reality do 50-60

Kill me

[Anonymous No.10443835]

>>10443823
>All in contracts
You got rekt, why would you ever sign such a shit?

[Anonymous No.10443855]

>>10443835
as if we have a choice in this filthy economy.

[Anonymous No.10443872]

>>10443535
WHATS BEST IS WHEN THE ONES THAT SPEND HOURS EVERY DAY WASTING TIME AND NOT DOING SHIT GET THE BONUS


THATS THE BEST RIGHT THERE
HEHEHEAHHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.10444630]

>>10443535
Did you negotiate at all??? Did you have any leverage? That was their opening offer.

I’ve worked for the same company for 8 years. Every year I get initially offered 2-3%. Every year I get 10-15% because I’m a valued employee they can’t lose. I tell them what I’m worth, show them the market rates with competing offers, and make them match. I explain the lost productivity while it takes my replacement 6-9 months to ramp up after I leave, and I time the discussion for after we have recently lost 2-3 other people in a short period to competitors so it will be especially painful if I leave.

I’ve gone from $100k to $240k with bonuses over the 8 years with multiple promotions.

It also helps to actually interact with your coworkers. If you act like a socially awkward beta they know they can push you around in negotiations.

[Anonymous No.10444682]

>>10444630
this guy gets it. i'm in the same boat with the same pay, but unfortunately i'm hitting the top of my pay range unless i want to manage people, and i don't.

[Anonymous No.10444698]

>>10443265
There's literally one dude at my work that won't eat any food the management buys for the workers. They buy pizza every Friday. Doesn't eat it. "I aint eatin the man's pizza, I'll buy my own".

One time he was eating something he thought a fellow worker brought but then learned one of the supervisors had brought it, stopped immediately and threw it right in the trash fork and all.

I love it but I have no self discipline and could never turn down free pizza. You can't eat it near this guy either, he'll give you dirty looks, cause he knows you know.

[Anonymous No.10444715]

>>10443535
Arrange some interviews to coincide with the yearly review. If you don't get what you want negotiate for more or leave.

[Anonymous No.10444826]

Stop complaining.

[Anonymous No.10444836]

>>10444826
Also

[Anonymous No.10444862]

dont cut his brake lines

[Anonymous No.10444875]

>>10443590
>fired
Hmmmm strange. Well my contract says is for undetemined time. I hope you have a good reason to fire me. Well lets look for a new place and cash in the fine for firing me without reason

[Anonymous No.10444887]

>>10444698
He sounds awesome

[Anonymous No.10444889]

>>10443535
>fuck around practically the whole year
>actively alienate customers and bad mouth our own products
>"here's a 10% raise and a 40K stock bonus"
Top kek. It's not the first time either. I keep fucking around and they keep showering me with more money, all while the company is performing layoffs.

[Anonymous No.10444926]

i love reading through threads where anons reveal they learned the hard way

even when i was a young boy i wasn't naive enough to give a single fuck about my boss or workplace. 'boss = master worker = slave' my red pilled dad told me. 'take them fore everything they've got' he said when i got my first pizza job at 13. i stole over 3 grand from that place in 12 months.

company work is warfare and in warfare its the peasants that do the leg work. its allways the laziest cunts that are close to management that end up getting the promotions. FUCK wagecuckery. i have no respect towards anyone that doesnt hold wagecuckery in absolute contempt.

[Anonymous No.10444939]

>>10444698
Dude sounds real as hell follow his example man

[Anonymous No.10444941]

>>10444698
autism

[Anonymous No.10444963]

>come in whenever i want
>leave whenever i want
>as long as i'm there during the day and get my work done, they don't care

find a better company faggots

[Anonymous No.10444974]

>>10444836
>boomer ideals
>boomer camera
>the cold dead sunken eyes of a man whos dreams have been discarded

checks out

[Anonymous No.10445003]

>>10443535
This is exactly why I'm a big believer in only putting in 40 hours a week. Work your ass off but no more than 40 hrs because at that point, your getting taken advantage of.

[Anonymous No.10445103]

Anon to boss

>okay

Jesus you faggots are all low T betas. I come and leave when I want, got promoted to manager 4 years out of college, and get a raise whenever I ask for it ($8/hr raise every 2 years) because I know I'm worth it. If you're not getting promoted or getting raises it's because you're a pushover or expendable. Maybe no one looks up to you or your IQ is too low or you aren't the guy your boss wants to interact with so he keeps you further down. Faggots

[Anonymous No.10445128]

>>10443193
Fridays my boss lets us knock of early and its generally like that amongst tradies

[Anonymous No.10445169]

>>10445103
>Trading time/attention for freshly printed irredeemable promises to pay

>I know what I'm worth!

[Anonymous No.10445252]

>>10444630
I didn't negotiate, but I did make my case as to why I should be a level 3 with all the over time and extra projects that I did. I got a 2 year project done in about 8 months, and that wasn't even my main goal. The response was "keep at it, try harder next year." So my response is to put in the minimum as to not get fired.

[Anonymous No.10445276]

>>10445252
why don't you just quit? You're obviously talented enough to go somewhere you aren't treated like a slave

[Anonymous No.10445402]

>>10445276
I know people here will hate me for saying this, but I like my company culture. The benefits and time off that they offer is amazing. The work/life balance is really good if you're not being baited into actually trying to progress quickly. Talking to two of my coworkers it appears that promotions are more based on time in the industry or time in the company. So I put in my 40 every week and don't do a damn thing extra.

Also, I suspect this is the way most people are treated at other large companies like the one I work for. It's still better than the last company that I worked for.

>be contractor
>work hard, do same job other engineers do
>clearing 1.5X the work others are despite only working a 40 hour week (contract based)
>want full time internal position
>tell boss this
>sorry anon, we're on a hiring freeze
>but I do the same job as everyone else, when does the contract end?
>never
>realize this company is abusing contractor definition to save shit loads of money on engineering labor
>start job searching
>find company I'm currently working for
It's basically the same everywhere. Companies are almost all scum fucks. The days of "work hard, get rewarded" are long dead in America. Now it's "work somewhere for a while then jump ship to another company for a 20% raise."

[Anonymous No.10445465]

You've worked at two companies in what sounds like Silicon Valley. Why don't you work somewhere smaller where you know the owner, the boss, etc. on a personal level? You've given up and you've been cucked

[Anonymous No.10445507]

>>10444836
>the boomer jew that told everybody to vote for Hillary so that he could sell his shit making biz to CNN.
>the jew that made it on his "own" but got his first video job through "connections"

[Anonymous No.10445587]

>>10443193
joke's on you, I'm a NEET.
In fact, I have been for the past 14 years.
Only thing I have to put up with is my (literally) boomer dad waking me up (just like the meme) at 10am and asking me to do the dishes or some other stupid shit.

That's literally all.
I'm 31 and my mom still cooks all my meals.

[Anonymous No.10445609]

>>10444862
are you saying to cut his break line? ;)

[Anonymous No.10445612]

>>10445587
you had potential and you failed

[Anonymous No.10445635]

>>10445612
>you had potential

STOP SAYING THIS MEANINGLESS GARBAGE
I have heard this trash talk all of my life. If I did, in fact, had potential, then how come I ended up as an autist playing for honor 11 hours a day every fucking day?

Don't tell me I had potential.

[Anonymous No.10445644]

>>10445465
>Silicon Valley
Nope, wrong industry. Also, I have worked for a smaller engineering firm in an internship and that leads me to another story.

>friend asks if I want internship during school since only doing 3 classes
>sure why not?
>small plumbing, electrical, HVAC company
>wanted to see what the industry had to offer
>pay was garbage $11/hr, but I wanted some more experience (already had 2 internships prior to this)
>owner is an absentee fuck up, with another engineer trying to manage the company who was also a fuck up
>no deadlines are actually written down
>every other week people were working 12 hour days to get drawings out
>still late on lots of deliverables
>offer me a job
>turned it down because the owner refused to give contract due dates to us so we could organize work (I'm not kidding)
>buddy still worked there
>they announce they're laying off all the engineers
>company gets fucked by Trump and they can't import the h1b visa holders anymore
>uhh, you guys aren't fired anymore, but you have to remotely train Pajeet
>buddy starts looking for another job
>last month finally lay off most of the engineering and have drawings and engineering done remotely by Pajeet

Yeah, so hurrah small business right? All companies aren't scum fucks at all. Also, have another story about the last job I worked which I will post after this because character limit.

[Anonymous No.10445646]

>>10443193
>Only work 2 of the 8 hours per day.
>Go multiple times to the toilet
>Still praised for my work ethics.

[Anonymous No.10445668]

>>10445635
Everyone has potential. People with downs syndrome and other major disabilities can hold down a job, but not you? You suck, rethink your life before its over.

[Anonymous No.10445676]

>>10445646
Congrats on wasting your life

[Anonymous No.10445692]

>>10445668
fuck off retard, why is a job needed?

[Anonymous No.10445697]

>>10445465
>>10445644
Story 2

>last job (contracting)
>"here at large global conglomerate we are striving to innovate and bring our customer the most competitive prices"
>"we plan to have engineering staff in India in a 1:1 capacity to our offices in [these two first world countries]"
So they are currently hiring and training Pajeets in India in at least 1:1 ratio of engineers throughout their other offices. Makes me think what they plan on eventually doing...

[Anonymous No.10445705]

>>10445635
because you chose to play video games for 11 hours a day instead of confronting your fears and learning how to interact with people or be self reliant. You should be thrown into a wood chipper

[Anonymous No.10445738]

>>10445644
"I worked for an idiot therefore I'm going to stay at a job where I don't get promoted"

Maybe you're too dumb to deserve a promotion. Your boss shittested you and you just said Okay

[Anonymous No.10445751]

>>10445692

>Provide income to your overly generous family, whom you have leached off.
>Provides a self satisfaction and sense of worth/purpose.
>Gets you off this board, shitting up employee discussion threads.
>Fuck you, you're 10 years my senior and still infantile. You should be more ashamed than you are.

[Anonymous No.10445764]

>>10443193
As a software engineering office cuck who has experienced many working environments let me give you a hint OP - if your boss tells you things like these its a bad place for your career already.

[Anonymous No.10445777]

>>10444698
based

[Anonymous No.10445799]

>>10444926
I've found my döppelganger

[Anonymous No.10445925]

>>10445587
You are going to kill yourself 1 month after your last parent dies or you get kicked out of the house, whichever comes first.

[Anonymous No.10445927]

>>10445738
>it's your own fault that every company treats you like garbage!
Ok grandpa. Maybe I just have to look them in the eye and give them a firm handshake? Maybe that will bring back pensions too?

[Anonymous No.10445953]

>tfw I'm such an efficient worker that I can get my week's worth of work done in 36 hours so I only work a 4 hour shift on Fridays, bosses are okay with it because I'm the best worker in the office
>salaried so still get paid the equivalent of 40 hours

Feels good man.

[Anonymous No.10445968]

>>10445764
THIS. Go somewhere where you work hard until the boss wants to meet YOUR demands to keep you happy and in their office.

[Anonymous No.10446059]

>>10445635
wew lad, its never too late to turn things around....

[Anonymous No.10446130]

>>10444963
Absolutely this

[Anonymous No.10446152]

>>10445676
Your life is not your job

[Anonymous No.10446196]

>>10444963
what jobs allow you to do this, im literally begging you to tell me

[Anonymous No.10446223]

>>10444698
autism

[Anonymous No.10446246]

>>10444698

retarded autist

[Anonymous No.10446443]

>>10446196

research is pretty comfy

[Anonymous No.10446478]

>work from home
>actually work takes maybe 2 hours a day
>sometimes go to comfy cafe or the park and work
>spend the rest of the day shitposting and masturbating to chinese girl cartoons
>110k/yr

[Anonymous No.10446555]

>>10444698
The logic astounds me.

>Won't eat pizza bought for him by management
>>Works for the company making/ doing things for them
>>> Is paid by them. Ergo the Company pays for his food

[Anonymous No.10446668]

>>10446478
what job?

>inb4 SaaS

[Anonymous No.10446691]

>>10444698
>They buy pizza every Friday. Doesn't eat it.
Gluten...

[Anonymous No.10446709]

>>10446196
Wife works back of house in a company as an asset buyer. as long as she processes company orders/responds to vendors within 24 hours they don't care. She goes in whenever she feels like it and works from home 3 days a week. it doesn't pay the best but the Benefits she gets plus the vacation time 2 weeks + xmas-new years isnt bad.

[Anonymous No.10446738]

>>10446668
bitcoin miner

[Anonymous No.10446802]

>>10445252

>Be me 5 years ago
>Wagecuck IT job sys admin/customer support
>CEO decides I should lead project to overhaul client management software for company and implement all new workflow office wide... In 3 months.
>1 month into project CMS database shits itself and can't be repaired without dataloss (previous IT were fuckups and didn't back up ever)
>Shotgun new CMS software and shoe horn it in with help of consultant in 2 weeks.
>Company doesn't lose any data, no downtime, and workflow proceeds with new procedures.
>1 month later phone system takes a shit
>Shotgun phone system deployment in 2 weeks.
>New system integrates with email and CMS software.
>Again no downtime, and improve efficiancy and manageability because system was so old.
>Review time in December.
>Anon you're review was really bad at first because you seemed like you were stressed the last 6 months. But then we realized you did a lot so we're giving you a .15/hr cent raise. This will increase you to 30k a year.
>Tell them I want 40k a year
>Why anon? We've never had anyone ask for a raise before! We pride ourselves in giving what we feel are honest reviews and compensation.
>List myriad reasons, including increased responsibility and average payscale in area for a data base admin.
>Stare CEO at CEO unblinkingly
>He blinks
>Get my 40k/year for managing an entire business technology...
>Immeditaely begin looking for another job.

Dude!!! This is a major problem In today's workforce. People don't ask for what they think they're worth. An important lesson anon, no one is going to give you money unless you go out and claim/demand/make it. Go back in there with a list of reasons and numbers and p, politely mind you, ask for more money. You're owed it, and they know it. If they refuse? New job, no two weeks notice, that's a fucking courtesy not a requirement.

[Anonymous No.10446848]

>>10446802

this is me right now but im at 36 fuck my life

at least at this point its all automated and any issues I can solve remotely from my home while in my underwear sipping sips and trying to catch these moon missions

[Anonymous No.10446907]

>>10446709
Interesting job, how does one even get into that field?

[Anonymous No.10447031]

>get here around 10 after 8am
>sneak out anywhere from 4 to 4:30pm
>always act like I'm drenched with work

I'm not going to allow myself to be cucked too badly even though I'm salaried now

[Anonymous No.10447077]

>>10446907
Honestly she fell into it. Degree is in English, her first job after college was doing pt data entry/ processing new subscribers. at a small magazine, and when they downsized they added in buying outside materials to supply the printers into her job responsibilities. She did that for exactly one year to resume build and got her current job.

[Anonymous No.10447203]

>>10446196
a lot of engineering jobs are more flexible with hours

[Anonymous No.10447249]

>glorified bill collector
>work 45 hour weeks
>make the company hundreds of thousands of dollars yearly
>46k salary

sigh

[Anonymous No.10447281]

>>10444698
>>10446555
This, guy's just cucking himself out of a small job perk and acting like a retard.

[Anonymous No.10447418]

>>10443740
>tfw previous job required you to bring a doctors note every time you had a sick day

I had a normal amount of sick days in the 5 years I spent there but never ever brought a note

[Anonymous No.10447622]

>java dev
>salaried, come to the office 10:15AM, leave at 4PM
>do work that amounts to a workload of 4 other people every week
>$116k/yr
>middle state in US

kek

[Anonymous No.10447644]

>>10444926
you are a good man, don't mind what anyone says about ya.

[Anonymous No.10447668]

>>10444926
this
self-employed gang checking in

[Anonymous No.10447684]

>>10444926
How did you pull that off? Just steal from petty cash or give yourself free pizzas? Good work regardless.

[Anonymous No.10447738]

>>10444630
best advice on biz ive seen in a while. To bad I work for myself and still don't make shit till im down with engineering school.

[Anonymous No.10447812]

So, why is Twitter valuation so low compared to Facebook? I mean, I know they have trouble monetizing their model, but still, i feel there's much more potential for Twitter still being a (big) thing in 15 years than facebook

[Anonymous No.10447816]

>>10443535

Similar situation

>Got promoted in January
>”We only do the budget once a year, you’ll have to wait until July for your raise”
>Work my ass off all year to maximize upcoming raise
>Take on tons of additional works with the indication that it will add to raise
>Receive performance review, high praise from all bosses. 95/100
>Receive raise
>$5000
>Literally amounts to an extra $65 a week
>”Sorry anon, the budget was tight this year. We’ll get you next year”
>Looking for jobs now

If $5000 sounds like a lot, that’s the same raise I got last year before the promotion and doing half as much work.

[Anonymous No.10447961]

>>10447816
Still more than I got, but yeah don't fall for the "we'll get you next year" bull shit. Father-in-law worked for a company that did that for 3 years before he left it. Found out he was getting massively under paid.

[Anonymous No.10447980]

>>10443265
I wish my job offered this

Sounds pretty sweet m8

No faffing about with cooking or shopping every night

[Anonymous No.10448051]

>>10447961
They acknowledge that I’m massively underpaid. They’re trying to tell me that the owners won’t approve a raise larger than 10%. Everyone else got 2.5% across the board, but they didn’t get promoted. That’s just an annual salary adjustment.

[Anonymous No.10448142]

If I ever had a bit of wisdom to pass on, it's this:

Grandpa lived in a time of small business

Grandpa's boss could look at his wallet, decide he's doing okay, and be happy that his employees are happy

Grandpa's boss had a soul

America today is big corporations

Your boss doesn't personally give two shits about your happiness

Your boss has sixteen other bosses above him

Company is here to make money, and if a publicly traded company, stock only goes up if company shows constant increased profit

Biggest stockholders are "the board", and will replace any management not continually willing to squeeze the turnip for more blood

Ergo

You will never be paid any more than the bare minimum needed to keep you here

"It's just good business"

In a large company, you have to hard negotiate your own raises. If they think you'll keep chasing the carrot, they will absolutely pay you half what they pay the next guy, and do so with Glee
"It's just good business"

You must be able to correctly identify what you are worth without hubris, compare to other companies, other people in your company, do your homework. If after all this, you present your case and get the try harder next year, hit the eject button.

Grandpa's days of doing a good job and being rewarded of its own volition are gone. Only in a WELL RAN small company will you find this to still exist. Any large company will cut costs anywhere it can, even you, even if the boss knows with certainty you have earned a raise... He will throw you kibbles if he thinks it is all that is necessary to keep you there. If you demand bones, it takes sales tactics. This is what Grandpa was talking about... How you present yourself. The handshake, the eye contact, the polish, the measured confidence is something management notices, and it starts right out of the gate on day one. Doing well in your position is only half the battle. The other half is sales. Everything in life is sales.

[Anonymous No.10448212]

>>10447418
If my boss asked me for a fucking doctor's note I would quit on the spot

[Anonymous No.10448223]

>>10446802
>we're giving you a .15/hr cent raise.
I would have got up and walked out. This is insulting for IT or software engineering

[Anonymous No.10448229]

>>10443535
>go late to work almost everyday
>but still get all my shit done every time, literally do the job of the position above me
>yearly review comes
>"looks like your punctuality is really good, but your performance isnt"
>mfw

[Anonymous No.10448274]

>18
>slept through the easiness of high school, did all AP classes I could, 2000 on SAT, got over a year of college credits from AP testing
>go into college for chemistry
>college was going through a merger, everything was fucked, had to drop out
>had 4k in student loans
>go into warehouse work, have the shittiest luck with car repairs, finally have now paid off my debt
>22 now, still working in warehouse for $13 an hour
>parents very well off, made a lot of money selling their house when they bought the dip from the crash, both have great jobs despite
>but my mother is insane and doesn't believe in logic, doesn't know basic math, I don't know how she's a manager
>father abuses alcohol, oxy and ecstasy constantly, never talks to me since I was 10 years old

All my mother does is play candy crush on her phone while my Dad watches ESPN on tv high off his mind. My mother's mind is failing while my father's body is failing. They've made me pay rent since I was 18 and haven't helped with any troubles I've faced.

I have some money finally saved up, but it's only 2k. I have no clue what path is ahead of me in life. I have had no positive role models to guide me to anything at all. All research I do points to college once again but it's a liberal clusterfuck and the prospect of taking on insane debt at this time when the economy may collapse by the time I would get out. I know I have what it takes to excel at whatever field I would go into but that's the main problem, getting through the bureaucracy and idiotic gamed system to get there initially.

I put in a hard days work at a dead end job that pays just enough for me to not kill myself, and then I go home and write whatever fills my mind just wasting my potential and drive to make something of myself.

Asking any anon to just point me in the right direction and I'll send all my prayers to you for the rest of my life.

[Anonymous No.10448281]

Redpill me on the WWE stock.

[Anonymous No.10448298]

>>10448142
Just a side note, be wary where to apply said confidence. In my post above after I got that raise they began shitting on me. No one else could do that job and CEO took it as a personal offense that I even asked. Confidence is seen as a threat by some, and some even mistake it for hubris and arrogance.

[Anonymous No.10448375]

>>10448298
Read 48 Laws of Power, specifically "Never outshine the master".

[Anonymous No.10448441]

>>10448274
Your parents don't define you, just use them for cheaper rent. Do this:

1. Find a higher paying warehouse job, they exist. Or postal office/ distribution office work.

2. Learn to sell shit. Ebay/Amazon, doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.10448547]

>>10448274
Sorry, but college anymore is a money machine. Problem now is we are overeducated and underskilled. You can get a degree in many useful things, obtain massive amounts of debt, get your "golden ticket diploma" and walk into that interview room holding your golden ticket up high only to look around and realize there are ninety others holding the same golden ticket. So now what? Back to college so you can further qualify yourself above the other 89, only to get back and realize everyone else also has that second golden ticket? But not you are all in more debt? Or work for pennies to get that "experience" you need, all while drowning in debt you cannot possibly repay with your internship salary?

The redpill is this: college in this day and age is the rat race. Some may, through exemplary qualifications or contacts, get the job they hoped for with their degree. Most will not, because the market is oversaturated.

The learning institutions, however, are making money. 10,000 percent increase in the cost of college since the 60's. You must go where the market is not saturated. (Hint: one is the trades)

Additionally, you've been groomed in every learning institution since elementary school to believe success will come from good grades>h.s. diploma>good college>good grades>college degree. It's like some bullshit world of Warcraft quest.

Have you ever stopped to wonder why, in one of the most capitalistic countries on the whole planet, the youth are repeatably being trained to be good workers, and not business owners? It sure is good for the businesses. They have an overabundance of good little workers, so they can treat them like shit and there is always five right behind any one that leaves.

In my area, electrician apprentices start at 15$ an hour, with benefits, while you learn. In four years, you make $27.50. pension plan, paid holidays, weekends off, matching 401k, health insurance...something to think about

[Anonymous No.10448613]

>>10448298
It is true. You must be damn sure where to apply that confidence, as it will land you in a world of shit if it is not measured. For reference, I work for Berkshire Hathaway. conglomo-world politics deserve multiple books all on it's own

[Anonymous No.10448628]

>>10448274
>college merger

What? What college is this?

Also you just gotta keep going job to job and see what opportunities they have and what you can take. Always network with other people and see what they got going. Sounds like you need a bigger social network. Most people luck out and fall into comfy jobs via nepotism.

You could go back to college but only if you're willing to go into some healthcare shit e.g. Health informatics. Good prospects there.

How much rent are your parents making you pay? If it's low then stay and keep saving up. If it's not move out asap and find roomies.

You could also stream and be a twitch streamer.

[Anonymous No.10448695]

>>10444698
What's the point of even doing that? Does he think there's poison in the food or he doesn't want to owe anyone anything?

[Anonymous No.10448766]

Got a CS degree and minor in business from a top school (not Ivy League). No student loan debt because of pell grant and SMART grant and scholarships. 1st job paid mediocre and I knew I would never be happy being a code monkey for someone else. After 2 years experience I quit to start my own company. Now I make 3x what their principle programmers make (people with 20 years experience).

You decide what you’re worth not someone else.

[Anonymous No.10448833]

>>10448298
I don't think it's "outshining the master" as much as leadership seeing that as a usurption of power. However, it would be the case if you made the CEO look stupid compared to you.

[Anonymous No.10448879]

>>10443535
This
I find the less work I do and more I don’t give a fuck the more respected I am in the company

[Anonymous No.10448928]

>>10446059
>its never too late

>What did you do for the past decade
>Sat around unemployed playing video games all day
>You're hired!
T no one ever.

[Anonymous No.10448955]

>>10448695
In our office they offer us (wagescucks) the leftovers from management meetings. Fuck them.

[Anonymous No.10448959]

>>10446738
What kind of mining set up do you use?

[Anonymous No.10449034]

>do 5 hours of work at the most per week
>threaten to quit job
>get a raise
feels good

[Anonymous No.10449091]

>finishing 2nd year at tech company
>know friends salary with same experience and college as me
>he makes 20% more than me
>2 year review comes and no promotion
>tell manager I shouldn’t be entry level position after 2 years still
>talk to CTO about it
>”sorry anon no room in budget for it”
>put in 2 weeks notice
>CTO says how about they give me more responsibilities and reevaluate in 6 months
>tell him no I can get another job with a raise and promotion today
>few days later they offer me promotion and raise
>they realized hiring and training someone else would cost them more
>quit anyways because fuck them
>watched YouTube entire last 2 weeks

[Anonymous No.10449108]

>>10446668
yup, software

[Anonymous No.10449133]

>>10448695
To him it's just the principle I guess. He knows he's a slave to the man but doesn't want to give the man the satisfaction of taking his bullshit friendly food offering when he knows the man actually isn't his friend and will instantly fuck him over if he gets caught breaking any of Scheklestein's rules.

[Anonymous No.10449134]

>>10447249

bailiff?

[Anonymous No.10449183]

>>10448955

you win the shit job contest

[Anonymous No.10449251]

>>10448955
lmao

[Anonymous No.10449386]

>>10443535

>trying

lmao, learn how to do the job completely, take on all the responsibilities as long as you're big dick relaxed, learn how everything works, then leave once a better company offers you better pay at the drop of a hat

if there's one thing i learned about companies and organizations is you can put your entire effort and lifeblood into something, but it's not your's. once you get fired or leave you can't take your work with you, only your knowledge. the only thing truly worth doing and putting effort into is working for yourself.

[Anonymous No.10449475]

>>10443283

Holy fuck... that pic... its me... evey single line... all of it

[Anonymous No.10449568]

>>10448766
What does your company do?

[Anonymous No.10449585]

>>10449091
What do you watch on youtube?

[Anonymous No.10449617]

>>10444963
You don't mind the leash you wear when you're sitting at the table with master

[Anonymous No.10449625]

>>10443283
>there are people who unironically think being a NEET is worse than this

[Anonymous No.10449651]

>>10449568
LARP all day on 4chan I presume

[Anonymous No.10449736]

>>10448281
pays a dividend but doesn't appear to be a growing market
I like wwe but decline to hold the stock
>t. finance guy & wrestling fan, go figure

[Anonymous No.10449740]

>>10444926
absolutely based

[Anonymous No.10449781]

>>10444826
imagine being such a brainlet you mutilate your own skin for THAT. not even an inspiring quote or some interesting symbolism, literally "hurrrr work harder". holy fuck that guy will never /makeit/

[Anonymous No.10450166]

>>10449781
his boss told him if he gets the tat he'll get double pepperoni on fridays instead of single pepperoni

[Anonymous No.10450366]

>>10444698
Based autist

[Anonymous No.10450451]

>>10443283
Literally the only weak spot to invalidate the whole pic is "dead-end job".
Having no carrier long term planning is suicide. Why would you flat your life when you can upgrade your position/responsibilities by changing company every 1-2 years?
The only thing that could stop you from pursuing a long term career goal, is having kids early.
Don't fall for this meme. Don't trust the "having-children"-jew.

[Anonymous No.10450455]

>>10445587
You need to get a job and stay with your parents and shove every penny you make into high yield long term investments. Then in 10 years when your parents are too old you can continue the NEET life.
Yes, your first job will be kind of shitty but the fate you are willingly walking into is far more shitty.

[Anonymous No.10450814]

>>10444926
lucid

[Anonymous No.10450901]

>>10449475

me too

fml

[Anonymous No.10450987]

>>10444875
Most places are at will

[Anonymous No.10451145]

>have to be standing up for the entirety of my shift
>get yelled at if i sit down
>get yelled at if i look at my phone for 2 seconds
>process everything as quick as possible despite how much shit comes in at the same time, quicker than everyone else but still get complaints about not being quick enough
>mfw im the only one that seems to cop all of the shit

[Anonymous No.10451994]

>dropped out of college
>work in broadcast, travelling all over the world, writing this from an airport in Georgia.
>Worked 300 hours of OT last _month_ in China, netting me a july paycheck of 25k USD
>Fucking love my job

It's an abstract kind of feel. I know I should, on paper, be working myself to death, but I love what I do and I feel like I can take it. I am physically incapable of getting stressed, in a work enviroment where everybody seem to be permanently on the verge of stroking out.

Going to try to negotiate a 40% pay raise when I get back home, as my month of insanity in Beijing salvaged a doomed partnership, worth tens of millions. Wish me luck, lads.

[Anonymous No.10452136]

>>10451994
Ask to go full time travel too and ditch your home housing to save money. Company will be footing 80%+ of your cost of living on top of juicy pay. Find a nice wife in a poor country. You could come out set after a couple years

[Anonymous No.10452175]

>>10451145
i think most of us have worked a cashier job at some point. i recall autistic urges to strangle all leadership

[Anonymous No.10452209]

>>10452175
What's up with cashier jobs?

[Anonymous No.10452300]

>>10452209
managers force cashiers to at all times either 1) stand at attention for customers; 2) clean stupid shit up that doesnt need to get cleaned; 3) move stupid shit from one place to the other. at any given moment, a summons will be issued over the loudspeaker and you are to return to your post most ricky-tick (for 8.10/hr).

at least with grocery stores

[Anonymous No.10452355]

>>10448928
Fake it till you make it

[Anonymous No.10452370]

>>10451994
What exactly do you do?

[Anonymous No.10452415]

>>10446196

>what jobs allow you to do this, im literally begging you to tell me

It depends on your boss more than the job/profession.

I come and go whenever it suits me as long as the job gets done.
Meanwhile the cucks in the neighboring office better be there whenever their boomer boss walks in during his morning patrol at 8:02.

Wish I could tell you how you can spot the "good" bosses/positions. But in my experience you just have to get lucky.

[Anonymous No.10452507]

>>10452370
I work with IMR - adding tracked virtual content onto footage in realtime, using a proprietary solution built upon Unreal Engine that our company has created. I started out as a self taught CG artist, and now do everything from typical CG generalist work, to setting up camera tracking, routing signals, configuring operator panels, as well as all sorts of consulting and training virtual departements in different studios all over the world how to use our tech - as well as work on and help air fairly groundbreaking productions we have been contracted to create inhouse. It's always different kinds of work, I love the problem solving aspect of it - from rewiring Unreal blueprints when something breaks in the middle of a studio recording, to helping a client plan out month-long productions, and find practical solutions to outlandish requirements they might have for their virtual content. Kind of miss working on personal projects, though. Haven't had time to touch zBrush in months.

[Anonymous No.10452559]

>making 100k
>leave my house at 7:50AM
>at work by 8:40
>breaks/lunch as long as I want as long as work gets done and i dont miss meetings
>usually leave by 5:30
>get home by 6:30ish
>save money by just eating the food at the company

am I a wagecuck, i have a good gig but i feel like i am

[Anonymous No.10452565]

>>10451994
Sounds like a sweet gig dude, if you don't mind how did you get into that field?

[Anonymous No.10452603]

>tfw your boss is one of those people who needs you to ALWAYS be doing something even when there is nothing to do so half the day you are just doing pointless busywork trying to look busy

[Anonymous No.10452607]

>>10452507
>built upon Unreal Engine
fucking amazing how thats still used

[Anonymous No.10452652]

>>10452603

I know your type, you lazy piece of shit. There is ALWAYS something to do, and if you can’t find anything to do, you should be looking for something to do.

[Anonymous No.10452674]

>>10447980

If it was a Thursday or Friday then hell no lol

Unless I'm making below $50k my time isn't worth them shilling an extra 2 hours out of me.

[Anonymous No.10452679]

>>10452652
Wrong

[Anonymous No.10452716]

>>10452565
Started out as a hobby. Studied informatics, but programming was only fun in smaller increments.

Worked freelance for a few years, mostly selling weird shit in Second Life, until I decided that sitting in an apartement all by myself for weeks on end was making me go fucking crazy. Slapped together a portfolio in a few months, sent out a single job application, and got hired by a VFX studio on a contract basis. I think I was a bit lucky with my timing - I specialize in character art, and they needed enviroment artists, but it was at the onset of crunch and they were desperate for people.

Quickly proved my worth by outperforming literally everyone except a handful of senior artists and the VFX lead (who is a fucking monster, and the main reason I decided to stick around. He got me hired on fulltime when my contract ended.)

That was eighteen months ago. I spent the next year doing typical CG generalist grunt work, but as I learn quickly, am sociable, and do well interacting with clients, I quickly got more and more responsibilities, as well as freedom. (Noone gives me flak if I come in late, leave early, or take days off on short notice, as I outperform everybody except my lead). After my first field trip, I have just been sent out more and more frequently, and quickly picked up a lot of broadcasting experience along the way.

I think the main reason I quickly got to where I am now, is because my hobby became my job. I have colleagues who clock their nine to five, do decently, and go home to their loving families, while I am spending pretty much every waking hour improving my skillset. If I am not at work, I am generally at home working on personal projects. I know I am missing out on some normie aspects of life, but the work I do and produce makes me feel incredibly content and satisfied.

It's brutal hours, and not especially comfy, but I am fine with that. I don't really want an easy, dull job.

[Anonymous No.10452734]

>>10452679

I’m not wrong, you are.

[Anonymous No.10452745]

>>10452652

HHAHAHA, so true, I deal with these fucks everyday. I used to coach them and give them advice, but now I just fire them.

[Anonymous No.10452746]

>>10444926
Despite many people cheering you on, I disapprove. It's not honorable to steal. You are a lesser man.

[Anonymous No.10452750]

>>10452652
There is always something to do, but a lot of the time that something is worth fuckall. It's like reaching high levels in an MMO and suddenly you can spend hours upon hours doing menial tasks without getting a single level up.

[Anonymous No.10452767]

>>10444926
>>10445799
>>10447644
>>10447668
>>10447684
>>10449740
>>10450814
your dad was a gypsy and your fans are jews

[Anonymous No.10452768]

>>10452750
This, if I have a choice between sweeping a clean floor or reading I'm going to read, busybodies can get fucked

[Anonymous No.10452821]

>>10444698

He sounds like a peach to work with haha I'd be sad because it feels like he'd get fired for 'not being a team player' or some nonsense

On the other hand I'd still eat the fuckin pizza lol. Unless there's some bullshit attached to it like staying a hour after work or whatever I'd be in

[Anonymous No.10452834]

>>10443535
Drake - Im upset

[Anonymous No.10452941]

>>10452716
Interesting read, anon. What draws you to a place like this?

[Anonymous No.10452947]

>>10452559
>am i a wagecuck
>50 minute commute

You tell me, anon.

[Anonymous No.10452966]

>>10452941
Elaborate

[Anonymous No.10453040]

>>10443570
as a worker you're not supposed to be well compensated. You have no stake in the company

[Anonymous No.10453055]

>>10447077

How much salary for that? Those jobs are honestly the best if you're self employed on the side with income

[Anonymous No.10453066]

>>10452300
Thank good im in the liquor store and not the supermarket
>In the shop alone a lot so all the work I do is actaully important to keeping the shop running
>manager doesnt care if we're on our phones, swearing, hamging around and chatting etc. As long as we're not rude to customers and the work is done by the end of the day
>$22 an hour
Not that I expect to stay here long term

[Anonymous No.10453116]

>>10449091

Thank you for not talking the 'reevaluation' in 6 months bullshit. What a fucker

[Anonymous No.10453153]

>>10448274

You're 22 and have no commitments in life. There is nothing tying you down.

You can move wherever and do whatever you want.
You're literally a hero about to create your own adventure.

Just take a moment to appreciate the beauty of your situation.

As for the direction to take - idk lol. You can pursure an academic career, become an artist, build your own business, learn a trade, join the military, go to nursing school, become a bum, move to another country or whatever. Any concrete advice anyone can give you would be a guess at best.

The best piece of wisdom I can leave you with is that you should read. It sounds like you've never had proper role models or mentors in your life. So there's a ton of shit you just don't know about because nobody bothered telling you. Books can remedy that - especially autobiographies. They will help you understand the world as well as yourself.

So in your situation I'd just read as many autobiographies of people who made it in various walks of life as I could. Eventually something will click and you'll know exactly what to do. I'd start with Arnold's biography cause the dude made it as a politician, movie star, bodybuilder, businessman, real estate investor and family man (at least until recently). Then I'd read Feynman's book because of the contrasts between him and Arnold.

Even if you don't heed this advice now, just remember it if things ever get really bleak. If you read enough, eventually you'll find an answer.

[Anonymous No.10453314]

>Weekend warrior Air Force maintainer on training orders from November to March
>Orders end at the reserve base I'm at
>forced to find a job because LOL NO ORDERS FOR A 3-LEVEL, GOT TO BE A 5-LEVEL
>fml, BAH in my area on top of my base pay nets me 3800 a month as an E4.
>forced to find work
>find work at a golf ball manufacturer, they're big but I'm not saying names.
>Job title is Paint Mechanic
>first 4 weeks all I do is take apart and clean the spindles that hold the golf balls as they get sprayed with paint
>23$ an hour 6 days a week for this shit.
>union job
>Factory is from the 60s, employees are cranky and old
>upper management gives 0 fucks about anyone but themselves
>middle management gets shit from employees and upper management constantly
>machines are easily 50 years old and horribly out dated
>All I do, day in and day out is these fucking spindles.
>End up taking 3-4 "shits" a day I'm so bored
>can't focus on my work because I'm acoustic
>sent of to be trained as a hydraulic mechanic on cool aircraft and I'm stuck here with this bullshit.
>pushing limits slowly and slowly on what I can get away with.
>company is forcing everyone to go to 12 hour rotating shifts, I'll have to work 2 weekends every month.

I can't do this much longer. At least on the base I was doing stuff, even as backshop I was constantly learning. I had my annual tour the past two weeks and it was so refreshing even if my shop is full of assholes. I applied to Gulfstream in hopes of getting a position as an interior installer. It's hard without an A&P but that shit is expensive to get and the Air Force wont help you get it until you're several years in. I don't know what to do. Nothing in this area pays this well for this little experience, I have a wife and 1 year old and our rent is 1250.

Fingers crossed for orders on my base. I'm about to lose my fucking mind. I feel no drive or motivation like I do when I'm in uniform. I feel like I'm apart of something important.

[Anonymous No.10453333]

>>10453153

This, a lot

Just reading, and even listening to videos of anyone involved can provide you with so many perspectives if you're open minded. You'll find a lot of times there's so much value in learning the mistakes others made (so that you're off on a better footing)

[Anonymous No.10453409]

>>10448547
Blue collar work will wreck your joints in the long run though.

[Anonymous No.10453455]

>>10444698
Get this /biz/.
My place of work (a fucking school) serves lunch every day but charges me for it out of my salary. I have to sign my name and they take it out of my paycheck. So, naturally I don't want to eat the shitty school food and pay for it, so I don't. But my boss called me out on it saying "what, is the food here not good enough for you? You should be eating the school food with your coworkers more and this will give you the chance to know them better." Basically I'm about to be fired and it's partly because I don't eat the food they want me to pay for.

This is the kind of bullshit I wanted to avoid working for a company like this.

[Anonymous No.10453503]

>>10453455
Ugh, fuck. Get out of there.

[Anonymous No.10453556]

>>10453066
you also get guns pointed at you though

[Anonymous No.10453710]

>>10453455

I ride my bike to work and bring my own lunch (usually a rice or potato based dish) and I've gotten some snide comments for it. I have a feeling management is catching on to my plan to retire in my 30s.

[Anonymous No.10453879]

>>10443193
>make $750k last year with business
>hired production and sales rep and pay them slightly below average to get business running
>hire cheap sub contractors to work for me
>literally do nothing except payroll and meet up with team twice a week to check status
>already a millionaire at age 24

It's amazing how wagecucks believe the shit their bosses and teachers tell them

[Anonymous No.10453911]

best thread on biz all year

[Anonymous No.10453934]

>>10453879
Yet your on 4chin on a Friday night...

[Anonymous No.10453968]

>>10453879

[Anonymous No.10454000]

>>10446196
software engineering. technically I barely have to show up (prolly cuz its internship) but uh, pay is hourly and gotta pay rent y'know

[Anonymous No.10454056]

>>10448547
>not business owners
entrepreneurship is at an all time high

[Anonymous No.10454069]

>>10443872
This dude is about to go postal

[Anonymous No.10454121]

Correct. Your shift at McDonalds ends at 9pm.

[Anonymous No.10454262]

>>10444698
Based autism

[Anonymous No.10454273]

>>10443535
he gets bonuses off your work and needs to FUD your contributions so he can justify Jewing you on paper

[Anonymous No.10454340]

>>10445587
Absolutely based

[Anonymous No.10454389]

>>10446802
>>10446802
A bad review because you were stressed? What the actual fuck?

[Anonymous No.10454396]

>>10443193
>no one picks less than 50 baskets of cotton a day and to receive a complete dinner I should take note.

[Anonymous No.10454414]

there is catered lunches at my company and everyone eats at their desk (more work time and a tax write off for boss)
>cite muh special diet
>leave for 1-2 hour lunch every day. go for a walk or sit in nature
>been doing this for a year
none of the meals are healthy and i wouldn't drink the fucking koolaid anyway. no one says anything, but i can feel the energy

[Anonymous No.10454468]

>>10445169
Based Aussie

[Anonymous No.10454551]

I work for a company who's management buys us pizza every single friday. I fucking hate working there, so i made a deal with the delivery boy a while ago... he pisses and spits on every single pizza delivered there, and i give him one blunt per month in return.

I can't help but look in disgust at my co-workers while they shovel down crap every friday lol.

[Anonymous No.10454604]

>>10450166
Fuck and I thought I was a poor begging cunt

[Anonymous No.10454701]

>>10450987
He has no comeback

[Anonymous No.10454810]

>>10444630
>if you act like a socially akward beta they can push you around
Actually no, they can't. Because they do not give a damn what their boss thinks about them. If I get tired of their shit or my work I just quit. Whatever kek
>if you act like a normie beta they can push you around
This is the correct statement
Socially awkward people are a pain to deal with. They seem all compliant and you think you can do whatever you want to and then they throw a fit and do whatever they want because you "suppressed" them. Difference is they bottle it all up inside and then let it go

[Anonymous No.10454823]

>>10454551
>voluntarily take a job
>dont like it
>attack fellow wagies with biopizza

[Anonymous No.10454824]

>>10447684
By being a nigger.

[Anonymous No.10454843]

>>10445751
Cool story bro. People with autism are liked 20% less then Normie's. Fact. About 50% with autism can't hold a job down. Fact. People with autism hate talking to coworkers so hate their jobs. Fact.

Kys preaching basic Normie's bitch.

[Anonymous No.10455210]

>>10452966
I think he means what draws you to /biz/

[Anonymous No.10455265]

>>10453710
I bring my own lunch too. Management doesn't care. Eating out everyday is a unnecessary money sink, made worst by the fact that the average street/restaurant food sucks.

[Anonymous No.10455331]

>>10444698
based and dare I say...redpilled

[Anonymous No.10455376]

>>10444974

I think Casey Neistat is living his dream bro

[Anonymous No.10455485]

>>10449133
This anon is right. I might even be the autist the other anon is talking about. I just leave before dinner and no one has the balls to ever say anything about it.

[Anonymous No.10455895]

>>10449625
This. Stay a NEET as long as you can and try building up a skill that you can use to provide money for yourself while at home.

[Anonymous No.10455906]

>>10449475
>>10450901
Serious question. Do you feel to tired to get a girlfriend or even perhaps see it as not being worth all the effort needed?

[Anonymous No.10455981]

>>10452767
or maybe you were lucky enough to find somewhere away from these hellholes

[Anonymous No.10455983]

>>10454069
>>10443872

[Anonymous No.10456003]

>>10453455
>My place of work (a fucking school)
what country? If US, did you get tenure? you're probably going to get fired over that, not from refusing the jew-trough. otherwise you should have a good case if you're not a total waste of air like a good 66% of teachers

[Anonymous No.10456031]

>>10443193
clock out at 5pm and laugh while you co-workers suck cock and get no where

[Anonymous No.10456091]

>>10445402
It's because there's so many luke-warm beta basedboys that are willing to work a job. Management knows they can squeeze maybe two or two and a half years out of someone new if they're properly baited into thinking they have prospects with the company.
This is why someone with balls should work well at a company in order to attract the attention of a headhunter and then hopefully either get the raise/bonus whatever or get hired somewhere else with better pay.

[Anonymous No.10456112]

>>10450455
>>10454340
This.
>>10445587

[Anonymous No.10456200]

>>10455485
You mean you leave before 5 o'clock? Wouldn't that get someone fired?

[Anonymous No.10456258]

>>10454810
It’s not that they push you around day to day, they leave you alone because they want nothing to do with you. It’s when it comes to performance reviews, raises, and promotions that being socially awkward fucks you. It lowers your leverage because they don’t care if you leave.

[Anonymous No.10456276]

>>10452507
Wow, you give me a lot of hope. Thank God I read this. Do large companies see it as valuable to have someone with CG skillz paired with the traditional skills one attains at university?

I was hoping my CG hobby would help me in Northrup Grumman. Maybe working for their PR or sales team and create renders of military tech being simulated.

[Anonymous No.10456317]

>>10456276
>F-18
>On a FUCKING RAMP carrier

You aint gonna make it

[Anonymous No.10456337]

>>10443193
>5pm
he fuck (You)r wife at this time

[Anonymous No.10456361]

>>10453710
>"we've got one that can see"

[Anonymous No.10456600]

>>10444698
>>10454551
kek

[Anonymous No.10456795]

>>10443535
same shit happened to me. after that i did not give a fuck and worked normal hours and that was all they got. fuckkng corporate bullshit

[Anonymous No.10457022]

>>10456317
>F-18
>Clearly a Harrier
No, you're not going to make it.

[Anonymous No.10457029]

>>10443193
are you paid overtime then? cause if the boss is trying to squeeze unpaid labour out of his employees he is playing with fire. labour laws can be strict

[Anonymous No.10457680]

>>10452355
Good luck with that background check.

[Anonymous No.10457782]

>>10457680

[Anonymous No.10458219]

>>10444630
LOL larping faggot. Every burger in biz apparently earns $100K minimum.

Reality is America is a third world country with mostly people stringing along in the bread line.

But hey, if that's how you cope, faggot.

[Anonymous No.10458369]

>>10455906
it's not worth the effort
this is fact

[Anonymous No.10458519]

Ok also

>total compensation at $86k
>don't put in any effort
>stop picking up any new skills
>come in late, leave early even though its a 15 minute commute
>sit on 3% annual raises

>boomer fucks telling me that I should be jumping around companies moving out to overpriced congested blacked shitholes so that I can make more and save much much less
>mfw

[Anonymous No.10458542]

>>10444926
Based and Red pilled

[Anonymous No.10458572]

>>10448274
Get a scholarship to study overseas. I’m doing that and everything tied to education is paid. American universities are a slave trap

[Anonymous No.10458987]

>miserable desk job
>$13.50 an hour
>put in work maybe once every ten minutes
>shitpost on 4chan for about 6/8 hours
Boss makes a dollar I get a dime
that's why I post on /biz/ on company time : )

[Anonymous No.10459066]

Anyone else trapped in copywriting? I really need to find a way out of my current job and find something a bit harder.

[Anonymous No.10459112]

>>10454843
>nobody likes us and we're statistically all losers so i'm gonna be a loser too
holy shit what a failure. your poor parents

[Anonymous No.10459174]

>>10458219
You don’t have to believe me. Tech sales is a lucrative position to be in, and I generate millions of contracted annual revenue for our business so I’m paid appropriately for the value I bring the org.

[Anonymous No.10459273]

>>10448051
demand the raise or else you'll leave
flat out
if they really want to keep you, they'll make the case to the owners
otherwise, you get to go get a proper fucking wage

[Anonymous No.10459274]

>>10459174
Is this all in-person shit or is there a way to do it online?

[Anonymous No.10459760]

>>10448274
1. Start supplying your dad
2. Profit

Where's your entrepreneurial spirit?

[Anonymous No.10459824]

>>10448274
>Fall for the trade meme, so you're not totally JUST'd by the time you're 30
>Use FAFSA to pay for an online degree.
>Join the military.

If I were in your position I would do something like that. Use the military to learn a skill and get the GI bill for college. Study whatever the fuck you'd like since you already have a skill. Worst case scenario you could be a trucker, which is still better than living with bad parents.

[Anonymous No.10459854]

>>10443193
>he doesn't leaves at 16:00
Heh, too personal, kiddo.

[Anonymous No.10460055]

>>10459274
big money is always in person

[Anonymous No.10460089]

>>10444926
If you were employed at some huge pizza corp like Dominos or whatever then I guess you did well, but if old man Pedro employed you at his family restaurant and you stole $3k from him then fuck your ass you're just a nigger at that point

[Anonymous No.10460114]

>>10443193
Yupp sales be like that

[Anonymous No.10460119]

>>10459824
Military is for failed people. Like you suggested. You have to deal with failed people who yet have the will to manage others. There are lots of failed people who can not get a job so no wonder military is the largest employer

[Anonymous No.10460140]

Also military requires huge amounts of tax money, so no better than any bureucracy tax money eating government job

[Anonymous No.10460147]

>>10448274

Do yourself a favor and don't do chemistry, especially if you're a burger.

Merica is outsourcing research and you're competing with native indians/chinese for the same positions. Only way to make it in chemistry is to get a PhD, and even then you're trading an excessive amount of time/money to become a highly trained slave.

Wish I did finance, comp sci, or engineering in college.

[Anonymous No.10460160]

>>10443265
Theranos

[Anonymous No.10460168]

>>10460147
>comp sci
no you do not

[Anonymous No.10460187]

>>10448274
As someone with immense law school debt, this shit stresses me out.

Try not to take on debt if there's any possibility you won't be able to pay it back. That's all I can say.

[Anonymous No.10460531]

>>10443265
Human folklore dictates that if you eat the food of the underworld, you’ll be trapped there

[Anonymous No.10460835]

>>10460168

Could you elaborate? I'm considering pursuing a financial analyst position and they want comp sci majors.

>>10460187

That's a really good point that I wish I thought of when I was younger.

Consdier the ROI on all of your investments, including college.

[Anonymous No.10461041]

The purpose of a business is to make you money, not help your employees go places in life

It pains me to see so many good goyim running around thinking “muh hard work” is admirable to anyone but the smug owner of the workhorse

[Anonymous No.10461183]

>>10443475
I'm going to Autism/Disability benefit job employers to help me get hired.

[Anonymous No.10461812]

>>10445676
>A real live Fresco detected itt

[Anonymous No.10462313]

>>10454810
lmao it's true, I'm sort of like this. Although I don't actually care about the job or their expectations and have been coasting and waiting to get laid off for years so I can collect unemployment. Would have been out of here years ago if I didn't hate interviewing so much.

>>10456258
It's okay, if they don't pay more I just scale back my output accordingly. I will never work hard for something that doesn't belong to me.

[Anonymous No.10462931]

>>10443193
>managers and above have a job level and salary that compensates for additional overtime they would have to work
>boss consistently expecta me to stay 2-4 hours late as an entry level employee who should be paid overtime
>dont get paid overtime

I hate getting epic pranked like this