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Making my daily threads. I am not a paid shill I am a AI ethics & new economy evangelist with multiple e-commerce/brick & mortar businesses in the US. Distributed computing needs to be solved for AI & IoT as well as disrupting AWS, Digital Ocean and other compute/hosting providers. Currently the only reasonable (light node requirements) that I see are Holochain and Constellation.

I think that Holochains team is more well connected so I am more heavily invested in it but Constellation seems like they are doing good work and understand what they are working on.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBlwQpcV95M
(Holochain & CEPTR founder explaining Holochain at one of the 20+ Hackathons they have hosted)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=J1bKwUy1x1A (founder of Netflix and Mozilla CFO speaking on Holochain)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHn15fioMx0 (handsome man talks about Holochain)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5vmd8QLuZU (fat cuck interviews constellation labs, good technical detail and overview)

>> No.10350021

stfu this has been a pajeet pnd from the beginning, /biz won't buy your boomer bags

1) Why even bother with holo and not choose one of the many cloud service providers? either it is decentralized where the same work has to be redone several times for redundancy(more costly since decentralization is always more costly) or you trust a single node that much, so it could be done in a centralized cloud provider from the beginning.

2) They openly admit that the Holo token is not neccessary to build dapps on holochain. Holo is just the first shitcoin ico launching on top of holochain, if you buy you just make the dev team rich. I repeat for brainlets, Holo token will very likely be useless and not increase in value even if holochain reaches adoption.

>> No.10350145

>>10350021
So how would a hosting and compute network with no services being rendered on it start at a higher price then AWS? It won't. Also because it's a sharded network if you have 2x redundancy there will more then likely be 3-8 devices giving you services.

Please point to another decentralized hosting & compute client that has been released. We have had 50 projects try and fail so it won't easily be replicated you low IQ poster.

>> No.10350159

>>10350021
I get really tired of this same post every time and then there isn't a response. No one has solved this problem yet and not only are they solving decentralized hosting and computing but they built a platform that you can do whatever you want on like Promether (doing privacy and data security)

>> No.10350401

>>10350159
>like Promether
Why not just go with Promether?

>> No.10350449

>>10350401
Because they aren't renting compute or developing one click apps to provide hosting and compute.

They are doing secure data with API calls for apps. So if you are a dapp and want to have decentralized yet secure data you can use their nodes on Holo to do this.

Lots of room to build on these types of platforms because there aren't any enforced rules. So if you want to be a totally public node you can do that and if you want to a hybridized central/decentral storage but maybe you process all credit card transactions on nodes with certs to do that you can.

>> No.10350467

>>10350401
But what they are doing is important and cool and will be a great service for people developing on Holo and blockchains.

>> No.10350469

>>10350449
>or developing one click apps
who gives a fuck? this kind of thing is the biggest bullshit in crypto--literally meaningless white noise. see also: Ark.

>> No.10350489

>>10350469
A one click make your own shit database is different then offering services to a network. It's like how you can plug in GPUs and start mining in one click.

You are dumb. Next. Anyone want to draw a reasonable comparison. I would say Holochain is even the first useful proof of work project as well as the first to solve distributed computing.

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>>10350449
promether is the real deal. they also use the same technology with DHT but its anonymous. Holo requires KYC and will never ever be anonymous, such a shitcoin

>> No.10350493

>>10350489
>You are dumb. Next
says the guy shilling a pajeet P&D scheme spearheaded by a bunch of literal SJW boomers in the hope that he can make a few dollars lmao
sage

>> No.10350494
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10350494

in a few years holo will be the new ether. fud all you want its coming and its coming in waves

>> No.10350499

>>10350489
No one can point to anything else that has solved this in the way that they have.

Ethereum "world computer" EOS was supposed to be distributed computing but costs $3,000 per mb of RAM

>> No.10350510

Holochain isn't decentralized, its DISTRIBUTED. There is a difference brainlets.

>> No.10350518

>>10350492
No it's literally being ran on holo, they share nodes and communicate on a base layer

>>10350510
Those are the same in this case. It's like saying that a torrent network isn't decentralized file hosting.

>> No.10350531

>>10350493
Nice cop out faggot

All these threads are is me explaining shit that they directly address in the videos so do yourselves a favor and go ahead and watch them. It's really groundbreaking and not that hard to understand.

>> No.10350541

>>10349958

LOL you're either a paid shill or you have heavy bags. So, FUCK OFF

>> No.10350545

>>10350493
>falling for pajeet scams
>falling for the dapps meme
he's either a newfag or he forgot to sell during the first pump and dump. this is a fucking pajeet scam lmao.

>> No.10350576

>Those are the same in this case. It's like saying that a torrent network isn't decentralized file hosting.
This is exactly why nobody should be listening to your dumbass. You are misformed and clearly don't know what the flying fuck you're talking about. The more you fudsters open your mouth the more you make the case for Holochain and why it's going to disrupt this space in a major way.

>> No.10350597

Keep trying tho. Muh pajeet pnd!! Use cloud computing!! Feet! Omg! Lmao. Top keks, keep it up.

>> No.10350600

>>10350545
Decentralized computing is more then dApps get educated.

>> No.10350620

>>10350600
This is a problem that ETH, EOS, IOTA, & many others have tried to solve and have failed due to improper structure.

Nodes have to be incredibly lightweight and using DHT is genius because it has been the standard for 20 years and every major security firm has worked on data security for them.

>> No.10350630

>>10350541
No heavy bags & not a paid shill, people just need to know that this is solving real problems. I have 15% of my stack in HOT and 2% in DAG.

>> No.10350662

>>10350021
This dribbling autist is back with his copy-paste FUD
Fuck off back to turtle coin, you have been debunked so many times but have been coming back to every holo thread posting this garbage for the past 3 months

>> No.10350747

>>10350662
think whatever you want brainlet, i couldn't care less if you end up bagholding this boomer shit. better try refuting my claims, it's a fact that distributed hosting will always be more expensive than hosting on a single cloud server.

>> No.10350759

>>10350747
That's like saying that a hotel with rooms built to house travelers will always be cheaper.

Well guess what faggot it's not the case. Makes sense until you see the scale.

>> No.10350806

>>10350759
not really. it's more like serving 1 guest vs 10 guests for the same amount of money. redundancy will always increase your costs period.

>> No.10350809

nice im 1/3rd holo, 1/3rd constellation
totally agree
these are the second chance gold if people move past their bias

>> No.10350811

>>10349958
Holy shit Jim Cook is talking about this thing. If this isn't bullish as fuck I don't know what is.

>> No.10350835

>>10350811
Yeah they even hosted Holochain for a dev talk at the Mozilla campus

>> No.10350847

>>10350811
that guy is a nobody kek, or have you ever heard his name in tech before? mozilla is largely funded by google, you really think they will push the decentralization agenda? fucking delusional.

>> No.10350863

>>10350630
>2% in DAG
big brain

>> No.10350922

>>10350811
>Holy shit Jim Cook is talking about this thing. If this isn't bullish as fuck I don't know what is.
nothing since like last year

>> No.10350953

>>10350847
Google literally forces their devs to spend a day a week working on open source projects. That's why there are so many google people in blockchain.

You people are uneducated. I am here to help.

>> No.10350976

>>10350922
>last year

3 months ago faggot

LOOK AT THIS FUD EVERYONE IT IS LAUGHABLE

>> No.10350981

>>10350976
that's practically a year ago in crypto
he jumped ship and hasn't said a peep since because he realized it was a scam

>> No.10351005

>>10350847
Also confirmed burger flipper lel, non-technical low brow monkey. How is working at the slophouse in Florida?

>> No.10351018

>>10350747
>i couldn't care less

You obviously care way too much, you keep commenting on these threads. Fuck out of here if you 'don't care'

>> No.10351021

>>10350981
Wow yeah good point. Time has warped and without retraction he has retracted his statement. Good logic, like your other posts.

>> No.10351034

Bump the future eth, all hail.

>> No.10351079

>>10350953
retard tier response, i did not talk about that and by the way there are thousands of other FOSS projects for googlers. funding mozilla is just important for google to control firefox as a chrome competitor. believe it or not.

>>10350981
he basically just said mozilla has a similar vision, that's not even a partnership.. the way they frame it as a partnership borders on deceit

>> No.10351081

>>10350847
>Jim cook
>that guy is a nobody kek
CFO of Mozilla, co-founder of Netflix.

Anon did you forget to take your meds this week wtf

>> No.10351095

>>10350981
FUDers can FUD all they want. Holochain is going places.

I know there is a lot of interest to keep HOLOCHAIN down as it is a completely new paradigm and it threatens all of crypto (many cryptos will be obsolete if holochain succeeds).

Therefore it is perfectly reasonable there would be a lot of people trying to FUD it.

>> No.10351121

>>10349958
They're using an ico to back the holo economy. since holo uses a system of credits and debits, and is backed by the money raised from investors and outside "trusted central banks" this platform isn't at all decentralized.

>> No.10351147

>>10350747
Nice you forgot to turn your vpn off and replied with your second ID instead of the original

No thats not a fact, quite the opposite is true, distributed hosting will create a free market (where single cloud servers can participate anyway) instead of an oligopoly, anyone with spare hosting resources can provide them for a couple of dollars a month of pocket change. The same way people do with airbnb, this is a fundamental feature of free markets
Economics 101 brainlet

Addressing your earlier points
same work does not have to be done multiple times this is not a blockchain faggot it is only done once. Other nodes can check the dht for proof if needed but they don't need to rehost and this can be done in parallel so is quick and easy. The reasons for not using centralized cloud providing are: free market competion as mentioned earlier, choice of hosting data with only people you want and/or trust ie free from cuckerberg, google and bezos filthy hands, choice of hosting options- different levels of speed, bandwidth, other hosting parameters

The Holo token is not neccessary just as no fiat/crypto/currency is NECCESSARY it is just very convenient and well designed for use on the platform

HoloFuel will increase in value with adoption due to host competition as has been explained millions of times for you dumb fucks I swear you argue the same way people with learning difficulties do you fucking retard.
Even if it was a pure shitcoin made by 3 year olds it would increase in value somewhat due to first mover advantage just as btc did despite its issues.

But you already knew that before as its been explained to you multiple times and the info is available in multiple videos, pages of documentation and github code, you crawled out from under your rock to jump in another Holo thread to fuel your autistic craving for spouting bullshit.
Fuck off back to your corner until you've figured out a way to cure your autism.

>> No.10351170

>>10351121
>They're using an ico to back the holo economy. since holo uses a system of credits and debits, and is backed by the money raised from investors and outside "trusted central banks" this platform isn't at all decentralized.
What are u smoking, the ico funds aren't to back holofuel, u mongrol. Are you guys just making up shit and pulling lies out of your ass now?

>> No.10351204

>>10350806
AHAHAHAHA this fucking brainlet is back again, get the fuck out of HOLO threads dude, every time you just look like a mong.
WHY IS AIR BNB CHEAPER THAN HOTELS THEN 'ITS LIKE SERVING 1 GUEST VS 10'>>10350809

>> No.10351332

>>10351147
>>10351204
>>10351170
>>10351095
desperate bagholders kek.

>> No.10351401

>>10351332
https://github.com/holochain/holochain-rust

look at this shit you faggot, stay poor

>> No.10351446

>>10351170
>the ico funds aren't to back holofuel, u mongrol.
I never claimed they were used for holofuel, but for holo, one of the many coins on the platform. Since the holochain platform uses "asset backed/mutual credit" currencies, then someone by default has to have the ability to create a large sum of credit to issue in order to have the ecosystem function. This would have to be backed by an asset, more than just hosting or computing power, and would be a central issuer, backed by a bank.

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>>10351332
This man is a fucking genius, I check their github at least 10 times a day, I'm a backend dev and he makes me wet

If you don't know anything about programming, just take a look at the issues and read, you don't have to be a chef to know when someone is Gordon Ramsey

>> No.10351470

>>10351457
his free love bullshit makes me really nervous, he's not an idiot but he's definitely crazy (in a bad way)

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>>10351204
THIS GUY IS PROGRAMMING FOR 10 FUCKING YEARS ON GITHUB

Half of this 'projects' in crypto don't do shit, just a copy paste from other projects, holochain is the real deal, dyor please, this is gonna be top 3 in 2 years

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>>10351470
The free love bs is the best part for me, this people are working in this project for 10 fucking years, they are not in this for money, like vitalik in the beginning, or fucking satoshi

>> No.10351750

>>10351540
>straw bale house
>took his wife's name and hyphenates
it's just ... too much for me

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>>10351750
>straw bale house
wtf is this? english is my second language and google just show me some normal houses


>n. hy·phen·ate (-nĭt, -nāt)
>One who performs more than one job or function: auditioned singer-dancers, actor-models, and other hyphenates.

Why is this bad?


>took his wife's name

What? lol, how the fuck do you know this stuff? I like his code, can you sauce me with this type of info?

>> No.10351853

>>10351842
no dude, he has two last names because he's a retard who took his wife's name. I know because I ran a background check on him (DYOR, dummy) and his bio is public on the latter. your definition is not relevant btw
straw bale house is a hippie thing made out of literal straw

>> No.10351883

>>10351750
/pol/

This about tech and making money from it.

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>>10351853
EBH!

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>>10351853
jesus christ man, do you wanna be my friend? I'm impressed, I do my background on the code and the professional life of the team, you went deep

torob@protonmail.com

>> No.10351983

>>10351853
That shit is literally irrelevant. And US regulation straw bale houses are not made of literal straw you fucking ingrate, it is packed straw in-between the walls as insulation. I took CAD classes so I had to learn about this shit.

I fucking hate dumb faggots like you. Taking a second last name isn't a negative thing, sustainable housing is good. DYOR a little better and remove your low IQ redneck stigma

>> No.10351989

>>10351983
>And US regulation straw bale houses are not made of literal straw you fucking ingrate, it is packed straw
>not made of literal straw
>it is packed straw
>this is unironically and ironically a strawman argument
pleb

>> No.10351994

>>10351983
>Taking a second last name isn't a negative thing
AHAHAHA
lmao
top kek
>the absolute state

>> No.10352023

>>10351989
Regular walls like a normal house, just packed with straw or mud or anything like that

>>10351994
I hate rednecks. I live in the bay all of this shit that you think is relevant to anything really isn't in the working world.

>> No.10352042

>>10351401
what is this?

>> No.10352043

>>10351989
Also the misdirection of telling someone that they live in a hut with straw walls and then acting like that isn't what you meant is fucking retarded. This FUD is dumb.

Good Devs, good project

>> No.10352057

>>10352042
>https://github.com/holochain/holochain-rust
Running a fucking node on your phone using minimal resources so everyone and their mom can destroy Amazon

>> No.10352075

>>10352057
big bezos wont like this

>> No.10352098

>>10349958
>Distributed computing needs to be solved for AI
you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. nice logo but you are a fucking idiot.

>> No.10352176

He is and has literally spent a lot of time trying to reinvent the money wheel.

https://vimeo.com/28272419

>> No.10352376

>>10351477
>>10351540
holy shit, this is gonna be f-cking huge. if they pull it off... we're all rich

>> No.10352385

>>10351446
>>the ico funds aren't to back holofuel, u mongrol.
>I never claimed they were used for holofuel, but for holo, one of the many coins on the platform.

Bro what the fuck are you talking about. Holofuel will be the 'coin' on holochain. The HOLO token we have now is just a placehodler will they swap. Again, HOLOFUEL WILL BE THE COIN ON HOLOCHAIN.

>> No.10352396

>>10351446
Since the holochain platform uses "asset backed/mutual credit" currencies
Bauahahha. The 'asset' that holofuel is being backed by is COMOUTATIONAL POWER AND STORAGE. Holofuel will be used to pay hosts, dear God I hope this is bait.

>> No.10352438

>>10352396
the speculative value alone makes this worth multiple billion.

remember this entire market is garbage. the moment an actual real world solution comes in...

not even mentioning the absolute pajeet level tokenomics. you would be retarded not to hold at least 1-2 million

>> No.10352554

>>10352438
poor fag here, all in at 2.6 million

>> No.10352573

>>10352023
>anyone who understands the implications of a MALE taking his WIFE's last name is a redneck
hahahaha you are a fucking cuck

>> No.10352847

http://metacurrency.org/faq/
>literal Communism

>> No.10352955

>>10352554
25bil Holo here.
I'm a poorfag.

>> No.10352963

>>10352955
>bil
mil right?

>> No.10353003

>>10352955
23m currently. Trying to get to 34 swing trading