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10271671 No.10271671 [Reply] [Original]

>Phones cost $800
>Phone plans cost $50+/mo
>Houses cost $150k+
>Cars cost $20k+
>Healthcare cost $393/mo
>Jobs pay $10/hr

At what point does one realize that this is a rigged game?

>> No.10271688

>>10271671
>When they realize that 150k+ houses are not for those making $10 /hr with no skill set.
>When they buy $800 phones
>When they buy $20k cars

>> No.10271694
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10271694

When it starts affecting a large group of white people which it has which it's habbening .

>> No.10271696

>>10271671
MY phone cost $30 at Walmart. It has apps and internet.
MY phone plan costs $25 a month.
My apart costs $1100 a month, and I split it with 2 other roommates.
MY car cost less then $10k, and runs fine.
I dont pay $400 for health care.

>> No.10271697

>>10271671
stop working high school part time job jobs

>> No.10271702

>>10271694
lmao all their anger is directed towards the wrong things.

>> No.10271708

You unironically make $10 an hour? Yikes

>> No.10271712

>>10271696
>i have a shitty phone with limited data
>i have a shitty phone
>i have to live with people to be "independent"
>my car is an old piece of shit
>i have no healthcare

>> No.10271720

Tracfone prepaid
Rent
Used car
Short-term catastrophic plans

Yeah the economy sucks but don't make it harder than it has to be. For instance if you're in the US and paying more than 10 bucks a month for your phone plan you're getting scammed

>> No.10271733
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10271733

>Phones cost $800

Niggers pay 800 dollars for a phone. Normal people get a 30 dollar smart phone from walmart that does everything an over priced Iphone can do and more.

>Phone plans cost $50+/mo

Again you can get a cheap plan for 30 bucks where you get unlimited texting and data

>>Houses cost $150k+

So? That 3 times an average American income

>Cars cost $20k+

Buy used retard

>Healthcare cost $393/mo

Healthcare is 10 percent of an average household income.

>Jobs pay $10/hr

For you maybe lmfao

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10271734

>>10271708
>doesn't understand that wages are relative

>> No.10271735

>>10271671
At what point do you realize that you don't need 800$ phones or 20k$ cars?

>> No.10271753

>>10271734
Unless anon lives in shithole that's a slave wage

>> No.10271756

>>10271671
Only if mutts could protest things that matter, and know how.

If you don't buy $800 phone, don't take a loan for a 150k house, don't use $50 plan, avoid healthcare and instead make yourself an emergency fund(you can go anywhere else in the world, and you'll have much cheaper service) You'd be protesting all the buillshit you're crying about. But be careful, if you guys start doing it in masses, big brother may start blaming your for being commies.If you don't want that, just be a good goy.

>> No.10271757

>>10271735
>>10271733
i don't need. them. the point is things are getting more expensive but wages are flat.

>> No.10271760

>>10271671
>Phone costs $200
>Plan costs $30 a month
>Houses cost $300k here :(
>Apartment $850/mo
>Bought my car with 20k miles for under $10k
>Don't pay for healthcare we both know it's being intentionally gutted
>Find more skilled or less pleasant work
>Interview monday as a gravedigger, $17/hr with benefits

>> No.10271769

>>10271757

The only thing that's getting more expensive is industries that are heavily subsidized by the government. Capitalism is lowering the price of everything else.

>> No.10271770

>>10271712
This. So sick of hearing brainlet millennials cope while being totally oblivious if the fact they're being ass fucked by the 1%

>> No.10271775

It's a dog eat dog world kid either eat or adapt

>> No.10271784

>>10271757
because your skills are shit.

>> No.10271788

>>10271671
When even white people are making 10/hr

>> No.10271812

>>10271753
Compare minimum wage in Maryland and then Australia. Does the more than double wage make Ozzy niggers rich? Nope

>> No.10271822

>buying a new car with minimum wage job
>buying a house in the bay area with a minimum wage job
>buying a new iphone in cash despite having a minimum wage job

I would call you retarded, but I think the lenders are more retarded for letting a man who earns $10/hr borrow so much money.

>> No.10271826

>>10271812
I think you're missing my point, it doesn't matter where you are in the US, $10 an hour is shit pay.

>> No.10271837

Holy shit. None of those things in life are for you if you make $10/hr. That job is for a teenager after school with no work experience.

>> No.10271845

Yikes how many american't mutts are there.

>> No.10271860

So the choice in America now is basically either take your chances getting into debt for a degree which may or may not get you a job (hence all the threads on /g/ biz/ and /pol/) or your doomed to a life low wage slavery. OR you can do the high paying wage slave jobs and risk your life and limb on an oil dereck or a telephone pole.

>> No.10271874

>>10271860
or there's the trades. or be a self taught programmer.

but yeah there's no escaping debt if your parents don't pay for college otherwise.

>> No.10271884

>>10271860
People are suffering the consequences of getting a degree without acquiring skills. Of course they are blaming things other than their selves.

>> No.10271914

There are countries where you can study on an international student visa for free with a much better social safety net, cheaper monthly expenses, essentially free healthcare and excellent job prospects. You would have to learn a euro or asian language though and adapt to a different culture.

Protectionist America is a sinking ship, It's time to get out while you still can.

>> No.10271920

>rent $500/month
>bus ticket $35/month
>food
>$200/month
>entertainment $0/month
>Phone $30/month (Samsung J7)
Total: 765/month

>> No.10271923

>>10271671
> a minimum wagie should be able to afford the newest phones, an above-average car and a house
Poor people should live like poor people. The healthcareis the only non-retarded complaint because: A) you may be required to purchase healthcare, or face regulatory consequences; or, B) Healthcare is the only thing listed "necessary" for survival

> Phones cost $800
No, iPhones and Androids cost $800. You can still buy flip-phones and mid-2000s phones for $20, you just think you're entitled to a shiny brand-new one because everyone else has one.

>Phone plans cost $50+ /mo
You can still buy non-prepaid phone plans for cheap (easily less than $50), you just think you need unlimited text/data/whateverthefuckelse.

> Houses cost $150k+
> buying a house at the top of the real estate bubble
Property prices are fucked, I agree. Still doesn't make you any less retarded for trying to buy a $150k+ house on a $20k> yearly salary.

> Cars cost $20k+
The fuck kind of car are you trying to buy? Are you seriously surprised you cant afford a $20k car with a $20k salary? No fucking shit. Plenty of NEW and reliable cars out there you could find relatively easily for less than $15k. You can find thousands of used-cars for less than $5k and even more for less than $10k.


Now, if you had said something about tuition costs dwarfing all of the costs you listed COMBINED, maybe you'd have a stronger argument. However, considering you're a minimum wagecuck i'd bet you haven't been to school since highschool

>> No.10271932

>>10271712
Goes real well with
> I have a shitty job

seems perfect for you

>> No.10271944

>>10271822
> house in the Bay Area for $150k

Missing a few zeros there brother. Even shitty houses in nice parts of CA go for 75k-1mil easily

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>>10271696
>>10271712
>>10271770

This, you should be pissed off about your situation, it is not good enough. you are an American not a fucking Pajeet

>> No.10271959

>>10271944
I was exaggerating my point about buying a house despite earning so little. You'll probably lose a burgerflipping job before being able to demonstrate employment for two years, and that alone isn't enough for a mortgage

>> No.10271979

>>10271671
>Healthcare cost $393/mo
Yeah this is bullshit. There's about 1 doctor for every 300 people, and the average healthy adult between the age of 18 to 35 only visits the hospital about 4 times per year. You're telling me in those 365 days, a doctor cannot handle a mere 1200 visits, most of which take about 5 minutes?

I LOATHE the current medical system in the US.

>> No.10271986

>>10271979
Minor self correction: the average american citizen, regardless of age, visits 4 times per year. 18 to 35 is probably way less than that. I digress.

>> No.10271988

>>10271671
You won't, you're gonna chase the autism coins until your body breaks down at 40.

>> No.10271992
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10271992

>>10271671
see pic related

it's not just you, this is an epidemic

>> No.10271996
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10271996

>>10271671
The fire rises

>> No.10271999

>>10271860

Exactly. You seriously nailed it.

>Option A
Take your chances with the fancy degree and IF it works out you'll have golden handcuffs and 60hr work weeks for 5 years until you pay off the student loan debt

>Option B
Take your chances with the trades, and suffer with back pain, possible injuries

>Option C
Suffer

I went with Option B. I'm making $70k a year but my back is so fucked up. America is so fucked. This shit can't last.

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>>10271996
Soon

>> No.10272009

I make 41.50 an hour (made 62.25 today overtime) my wife makes 101k and we still can’t afford a house, kids, nice car or anything that I want out of life

>> No.10272012
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>>10271996
we need national socialism and to get rid of the shitskin welfare leeches, not open borders so we can have more of the same shit we already have. kys

>> No.10272013

>>10272009
Unless you live in San Fran or NYC this is just false

>> No.10272015

>>10271979

The problem is mostly fat people.

I will post this as many times as I can possibly post it online:

60% OF ALL HEALTHCARE COSTS IN AMERICA ARE DUE TO OBESITY/SEDENTARY LIFESTYLE.

We're literally paying for the fatties. END EQUAL HEALTHCARE TREATMENT FOR 250LB+ PEOPLE TODAY!!!

>> No.10272024

>>10271788
The fucked up thing is that if you make $12 hour youre making more than 50% of millennials. To be in the top 10% of millennials you only need to make 60k pretax. That used to be a fucking given like 12 years ago

>> No.10272030

>>10272009

Are you me?

I make $70k a year, my wife makes $38k a year.

We cannot buy a house.

>> No.10272034

>>10272013

Good guess. I live in NYC. Now don’t suggest moving where there are no jobs and pay is significantly less

>> No.10272036

>>10272024
Well that makes me feel a bit better about my $59k salary

>> No.10272038
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10272038

>lazily drag yourself through college
>barely do assignments
>barely pass exams
>make zero attempts to make industry connections
>brush off any form of socialization under the misconception that a STEM degree means: having autism is okay
>refuse to acquire any valued skills outside of the bare minimum to complete coursework
>millions of people competing against you
>somehow expect this to turn out well
>because you went to a diploma mill from a 'prestigious' school with a boilerplate academic catalogue that pushes warm bodies through

i fucking hate you lazy pieces of shit

>> No.10272039

>>10271712
This

>> No.10272044

>>10272015
go look up who the biggest demographic is for diabetes and heart disease

>> No.10272045

t. black 20 yr old boomer

>iphone x
>65 a month with financing
>live with grandparent
>05 dodge neon
>have paid health insurance until 25
>15 an hour electrical inside wireman apprenticeship
>20k crypto 15k saved

life will only go from easy to normal mode when my grandmother passes.

>> No.10272059

>>10272015
universal healthcare = more nigger welfare

>> No.10272061

>>10272012
You get rid of the shitskins and it's gonna be you doing the shitty jobs 60 hours a week while schlomo gets replaced by hans.

>> No.10272067
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10272067

>>10272061
>I don't actually want wages to go up I just want someone to give me a million dollar a year job

>> No.10272075

>>10271696
>>10271712
this

>> No.10272103

>>10271999
i worked construction last year. 10.50 an hour. almost got a 2 front teeth knocked out. they were lose for a while and now hang down slightly lower than the others. i actually do have a CDL so i might get back into that but truck driving is really just being a prisoner to the road instead of a boss.

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10272105

>>10272075
>>10271712
>>10271696

>frugal but still poor
>gets no pussy with walmart phones
>probably eats ramen breakfast lunch and dinner

>> No.10272108

>>10272067
Most of the jobs are bullshit jobs that can be done by a computer within a decade, you're still gonna be a broke ass fag who gets $12/hour and chases autism coin until you swallow a bullet after perpetual losses.

>> No.10272113

>>10272105
yep. green bubbles are a red flag.

>> No.10272125

>>10272108
a good 70% of the employed population makes $12 an hour >>10271992

>> No.10272126

>>10271923
No need to regress to flip phones. You can buy a decent smartphone for $100. Even if you don't use most of its features, GPS functionality is extremely useful.

>> No.10272160

>>10272125
And kicking out all the niggers isn't going to change that, at best you'll be making $15 an hour and still die a poorfag.

>> No.10272178

>>10272160
beaners too.
$18/hr and my taxes would probably cut in half.

also I don't make $12 an hour, nice projection though

>> No.10272224
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10272224

I am a self employed ceo of a small business and did about 250k in sales last year. About 75k of that was profit, after purchases and business meals, gas, etc.

I thought all of biz were neets who had already made it. Not a bunch of poor millennials flipping burgers.

I put a years salary into BTC and it is now only worth 20k. I am okay with that. But seeing you neets cry about losing your lunch money is making me second guess coming here and taking the investment advice I got. Oops.

>> No.10272239

>>10272224
>250k small business
>ceo

that's a rather generous title, don't you think

>> No.10272248

>>10272126
Samsung Galaxy J2 is reasonably priced.

>> No.10272257

>>10272224
yea but most people don't have trust funds though...

>> No.10272262

>>10272178
Your taxes would stay the same and $18 is a pipedream.
>also I don't make $12 an hour, nice projection though
yeah, it's clear you're a neet who chases autism coins instead of works.
>>10272239
It's a title unrelated to income, you can be a ceo of a firm that doesn't make any money.

>> No.10272276

>>10272224
"investment"

>> No.10272277

>>10271671
>Jobs pay $10/hr
>>10271697

>> No.10272287

>>10272224

>CEO

Holy shit.

Unless the company has over 50 employees, don't ever use the word "CEO"

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10272293

>>10272262
>he's racist so he must be a dumb poorfag

>> No.10272295
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10272295

drugs cost 20% YOU SELL for 200% do this until you can join the system and rig it for all the once coming up that may threaten you

>> No.10272297

Play stupid games win stupid prizes

>$200 phone
>$28 phone plan (in Canada, land of cellular ripoff
>$20k luxury trailer (live alone) + $400 pad rent
>Don't eat garbage and live in Canada

If you stop consuming the only choice is to change the method. Stop supporting it.

>> No.10272305

>>10272297
Oh, and 4-5k Honda or Toyota and learn how to do basic things yourself with a $30 socket set and YouTube.

>> No.10272310

>>10272293
If you're on /biz/ the chances of you being a poorfag trying to flip autismcoin is at least 95%

>> No.10272315

You live in an age where any skill you want is literally at your fingertips thanks to the internet, yet you're still here bitching about being a waste of space.

Fuck, you could literally learn how to piece together a makeshift nuclear weapon and yet you're still here, complaining that you don't make 30 dollars an hour flipping burgers.

>> No.10272316

>>10272297
they dont have $28 dollar phone plans in America unless you literally never actually use your phone

>> No.10272324

>>10272038
how can you make industry connections when there are so few internships and everyone tries to get them? as an undergrad i failed to get an internship every year. now that i'm working after grad school, all the interns at my company are from top universities while all the permanent employees are from shit tier to mid tier universities. it shows how competitive internships are compared to full time employment.

>> No.10272325

>>10272316
mine is 30 a month, unlimited texting and calls, 2gb of data

i almost never use up all my data

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>>10272315
>everyone that complains must be a retarded burgerflipper
>I'm so much better than everyone else around me

>> No.10272340

>>10272316
$28 plan here is unlimited Canada long distance and texting and 500mb data. When on mobile use text-only and your data will last forever.

I'm currently on $37/mo for the above but with 4.5gb data. Most people here pay at least $60/mo.

>> No.10272341

>>10272325
no it's not

>> No.10272347

>>10272341
TPO Mobile..look it up and check out the plans, i swear people dont even try doing basic research to save money

>> No.10272352

>>10272328
>doesn’t realize the psychology of being a loser includes complaining about results

>> No.10272360

>>10271874
>There's no escaping debt if you're parents don't pay for school
>not taking the fortune your parents would give you and just starting your own business instead .
Stop thinking inside the fucking box. Better yet, take the student loan money and start a business if you're parents cant help you. OR, get an unsecured bank loan and start something. That way, if you fuck up you can just declare bankruptcy and not be liable for life like you would with a student loan.

>> No.10272364

>>10271671

ya it's rigged. it's called import competition for the poor

>> No.10272387

>>10271955
There is no proof Jefferson ever said this.

>> No.10272392

>>10272224
>just run some website
>$72k/yr profit
>80% profit margin
nothin personal boomer

>> No.10272394

>>10272387
Jefferson hated the banks. He also hated the government too.

>> No.10272409

>>10271920
How are you on the internet? Not all of us can steal our elderly neighbors unprotected wifi
Don't bullshit me on that $30/mo phone

>> No.10272419

>>10272394
Thank you for responding with an answer related to my post about a specific quote.

>> No.10272427

>>10272409
Internet should be even cheaper than the phone.

I'm paying $29/mo for Can-com 25mbit down 5mbit up cable internet, in somewhat rural Canada.

>> No.10272438

>>10271999
I took an oil rig job and quit after watching a guy get cut in half 10ft away from me.
Worst part was that someone came to replace him two hours later... This shits gotta change

>> No.10272442

>>10271671
I'm paying 14 usd for 60gb data, unlimited texts and unlimited calls. Feels good to be a eurofag sometimes.

>> No.10272446

>>10271671
>Houses cost $150k+
Where I live, $200K might get you a 1-bedroom condo, but certainly not a house.

>> No.10272453

>>10272446
Where do you live (I'm totally not going to murder you, mmkay)?

>> No.10272454

>>10272015

when i see a height weight proportionate human being it's literally mesmerizing, where i live everyone is fat, even little kids

>> No.10272455

>Houses cost $150k+
LOL

t. Sydney

>> No.10272460

>>10272438
How do you think it should change? Accidents will always happen under any system.

>> No.10272480

>>10271696
okay... I think op is trying to point out how things are fucked up

>> No.10272483

>>10272453
The traffic-choked suburban sprawl they call Northern, VA.

Around here, you're either in government, or service industry. There's not much in between.

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>>10272257
I actually was homeless for a few years or so, crashing on couches. I was a throwaway. Mom let me move back home and started my business from there when I was 22 or so. I was on the streets from 19 until then. She made me pay rent even as soon as I started making $. Just paid off my school loans recently too. Glad I dropped out after a single year and partied the entire time. Was totally worth the 10k I owed, which I was able to talk down to 6k.

>>10272287
I plan on getting there one day.

>> No.10272491

>>10272427
Damn, if I wasn't trapped in the land of the free... I've been wanting to move to rural Canada since '11

>> No.10272498

>>10272409
he's probably not BSing you. you can get a pre paid phone plan for $30/mo but all the ones i've seen only come with a gig of data. after that they throttle you back to 2g speed wich is basically unsable for web browsing.

>> No.10272505

>>10272392
lulz

>> No.10272510

>>10272454

It's just amazing that it's considered totally normal.

I live in the Southeastern USA and it's just one fat person after another.

> Gee bill I need to get to the doctor again I'm having chest pains
> massive gut
> joint pain
>chest pains
>high blood pressure

and yet they don't put the fork down and go for a run.

I really don't have a problem with their choices, but since the insurance companies and the government give a healthy body and a fat body the same pricing and the same plan it really triggers me.

>> No.10272521

>>10272460
Maybe not treat people like ants? Perhaps put some effort into safety and stability of work?
But no, even my minimum wagecuck jobs have thrived on high employee turnover -human lives should be worth more than flashing asses for cash on instagram or breaking backs under oil pipes

>> No.10272524

$50 phone
$55/month
$500k house got me there
Bought my car for $13k cash in 2012
$17.50/m in healthcare, not even joking (massachusetts)
don't get paid by the hour

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>>10272438
i watched a documentary about the oil boom in ND. saw where some guy traveled out there to work on a rig. the rig blew up and he got his legs cut off. he shot himself in the head a few weeks later.

>> No.10272543

>>10272460

Speaking from experience in the trades...

SOME accidents are unavoidable, but probably 80% could be eliminated IF

> Management actually cared about making the workplace very safe
> The equipment was checked regularly to keep it safe
> The spent the 5% extra on the safe equipment
> Safety training was a part of every employee's protocol

As long as the cost of doing the above is greater than the cost of the settlements and claims for accidents, big business will continue not giving a shit.

>> No.10272628

>>10271671
>Your branded phone costs too much
>Your mafia-operated plan costs too much
>Your pyramid scheme currency doesn't even allow you to afford such luxury
>Your obsolete model is in need of repairs
>Your doctor will gladly add something extra to your bill
>The profit you're making to your boss is not part of your salary as it should be

>> No.10272717

>>10271979
I've visited the doctor maybe once every 2 years if that
>$600 per month insurance

>> No.10272742

>>10272717

this is because of fat people.

Seriously.

>> No.10272766

>>10272438
How did he get cut in half exactly?

>> No.10272769

>>10272498
no bs here's mine

>internet $0/mo (work covers it)
>phone $0/mo (work provided)
>healthcare $0/mo (work lets me expense anything out of pocket)
>mortgage $1250/mo
>groceries $170/mo
>shopping $250/mo
>weed $300/mo
>rental income $750/mo

>> No.10272777

>>10271837

Call centers are for teenagers? Because they also pay that much. Most jobs pay fuck all these days, even the "good" ones. Can't just walk into a factory and get a job since they moved all those overseas so the only high paying job now without going in debt from school is transportation/logistics. Guess what's being automated next? Looks like another half of the workforce is going to be pushed onto unemployment soon.

>> No.10272783

> House cost's 150K
>Thinks he cant establish a shit line of credit. >Slowly build hat credit by not being dead beat and paying cards off.
>Actually find a house that is worth more than listing price.
>Pay for house on interest
> 900 or less/mo
>rent a room for half of that or more
>Borrow from bank on equity that you get from not being an autist and buying home in the right market

>> No.10272787

>>10272766
This, I must know

>> No.10272789

>>10272769
Your narcotic addiction is costing you more than a starbucks cup of coffee and you get symptoms of psychosis along with it.
Stick to coffee if you start noticing synchronicities, it's your conciousness telling you that you're at the beginning of a trip to the mental hospital

>> No.10272799

>>10272789
I've been at this rate for about a decade and no changes really. I don't really get high so much it just keeps me sane.

>> No.10272809

>>10272742
Well, not JUST because of fat people.

It's actually because the US subsidizes a huge portion of the rest of the world's health care through the high costs of their own.

That's why you rarely hear the rest of the world, or at least their politicians, bring up American health care. They don't want their gravy train to end.

>> No.10272819

>>10272777
Learn a fucking trade. Dig ditches then slowly move up.
Get into the automotive industry.
You'd be surprised how many mom and pop auto repair shops/fabrication shops will respect someone who wants to learn and comes along offering to sweep the floor/ keep the place clean.
do farm work, the right farm will provide housing in exchange for work. Use spare time to teach yourself something.
do firehouse work. Will also provide housing. Use spare time to teach yourself something.

>> No.10272834

>>10271671
>>Phones cost $800
>>Phone plans cost $50+/mo
>>Houses cost $150k+
>>Cars cost $20k+
>>Healthcare cost $393/mo
>>Jobs pay $10/hr
>At what point does one realize that this is a rigged game?


This is good bait. Pay attention. You could always buy Bitcoin while it's dirt cheap but you probably won't and buy some scammy altcoin

>> No.10272842

>>10271696
Well... yeah, i guess you can survive and even thrive if you're frugal.
But people used to be able to provide for a family and buy cars and shit n' stuff with a single income. Not only in America, but in most fucking countries, what happened?
Inflation man, fucking sucks.

>> No.10272860

>>10272819

How the fuck do I dig ditches when I have scoliosis you cunt? Why do you think I work a call center instead of a warehouse and make $15 an hour instead? Most people these days have too poor of health to dig ditches or do anything physical. That's no way to live in this day and age anyway. Besides that I actually have a degree but I haven't really been able to use it for anything. It's a business degree. I tried to start an online business by selling things on Amazon but the profits weren't enough to live on even from buying cheap shit from China and upmarking it a bit. Just not enough sales and too many chinks doing the same but selling for cheaper than me.

>> No.10272965

>>10271671
>house costs 150k+

where the fuck do you live? Houses are 450k+ where I'm at lmao

>> No.10273008

>>10272965

Same here.

I live in the Atlanta suburbs and a 2br/1ba that is a complete piece of shit costs $150k

>> No.10273158

>>10272965
There's a place I'm looking at in Chocataw Beach, florida that's right on the water. It's 250k.

>> No.10273171

>>10271671
(((Phones)))
(((Phone Plans)))
(((Houses)))
(((Cars)))
(((Healthcare)))

kek, its like you want to be a slave. just take the vagrant pill today and panhandle and buy beer

>> No.10273205

>>10272341
there are cheap ass phone plans in CA for mexican migrant workers

they are 20-30 a month

you can pay for a very shitty smart phone for like $10 a month on a plan that includes ~2gb of data

>> No.10273268

>>10272347
I'm on mint sim. They resell T mobile. $15 for 2gb and the rest if you buy a year at a time.

Virgin mobile is also a decent price, they resell Sprint. I'm sure there are other resellers for ATT and VZW.
>>10272965
houses are 800k here, lamao indeed

>> No.10273426

>>10271826
I don't disagree that it's shit but it is still relative. Ontario, Canada raised minimum wage from $11.40 to $14.00 and employers clawed it back through benefit cuts or laying people off and letting the rest pick up the slack. Not to mention the increase in prices to also offset the wage hike

>> No.10273503

>>10271671
>phone cost me 140 euro (xiaomi, awesome device)
>Phone plan 21€
>House 175k but 30y mortgage with 1.8% interest is only 620/month for 110m2 house + 50m2 of garden
>toyota corolla cost me 4000
>healthcare about 120
>job pays 43000 for full time before taxes
>kicker: GF makes 50000 so I effectively pay half for everything we need

Play the game you can afford anon. Dont buy expensive marketed samsung or apple crap. Get a cheap phone plan and a used car or no car at all

>> No.10273515

>>10271671
>Phones cost $800
Are you stupid?

>> No.10273519

>>10271671
OP is woke.

>> No.10273553

>>10271671
>Phone $500
>Phone plan $25/mo
>Houses: own 5
>Passive: $4k/mo
>Others: $1MM

>> No.10273559

>>10271671
Chinese phones cost like a fraction of that
buy an unlocked phone
buy a house in a cheap area
buy a used car
get a job that pays for your health or move to a better country

>> No.10273590

>>10271720
>Tracfone prepaid
based
>Rent
retarded
>Used car
based

mixed signals anon

>> No.10273875

I honestly don't feel sorry for poor people anymore.

>Phone: moto g5 plus, $150 after rebate, came with 6 months of free phone service
>Phone plan: after 6 months expired, https://www.mintmobile.com/plans/ fucking dirt cheap $15/mo plan on t-mobile network
>Car: $5k used sedan what was well maintained no accidents and one owner according to carfax runs smoother than a baby's ass
>rent condo from private party for $1k, super cheap for this area, could probably get a room for $500 if i felt like living with other idiots
>bills: internet, electricity, water, gas, never more than $100 total
>food is about $100-150/mo with meal prep

All of this is easily doable on $10/hr full time with some left to put in savings, except I do this on my $30/hr full time job while trying to start a business. If you're wagecucking at $10/hr, you should be trying to gain enough knowledge to enter an entry-level position with a career that isn't a total dead end. If you piss away your minimum wage on stupid bullshit while waiting around for something else to save you then you deserve to be poor your whole life.

>> No.10273949

>>10271757
Hello OP, this is true. purchasing power of the median has decreased. (in western countries)
The reason for that of course is immigration, women, government spending and monetary policy to give out quadrillion $ of loans for 0% interest.

10$/h still sounds like a low income in general, no matter where you live, except for Zimbabwe or some shit